Re: deciding on a new amd64 (laptop) system
On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 12:51:32PM -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: I'd get an Intel P965 or 975 motherboard, besides some BIOS/MTRR issues with 4 and 8GB of memory, they work very well. Well I hope the kernel developers manage to explain to intel what their MTRR setup bugs are in their BIOS so that they will actually fix it in the BIOS. So far they (intel) seem to think their BIOS is doing nothing wrong. -- Len Sorensen Yeah it's quite strange, a developer from Intel has patched the kernel and I am using his patch against 2.6.22-rc4 and he says the BIOS has issues, but the BIOS people say its not their problem. Justin. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deciding on a new amd64 (laptop) system
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 12:51:32PM -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: > I'd get an Intel P965 or 975 motherboard, besides some BIOS/MTRR issues > with 4 and 8GB of memory, they work very well. Well I hope the kernel developers manage to explain to intel what their MTRR setup bugs are in their BIOS so that they will actually fix it in the BIOS. So far they (intel) seem to think their BIOS is doing nothing wrong. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deciding on a new amd64 (laptop) system
On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 12:44:00AM +0200, Gilles Sadowski wrote: Certainly not, I had only bad experiences with all-in-one systems. Dell is probably better than Fujitsu-Siemens but I'd rather have standard components, for a desktop computer. But... The budget we have might be enough to also buy a laptop. Which one(s) would you recommend? The main requirements are that - it must be light (the more so, the better); small screen size is not a problem as this won't be for watching DVDs... - it should have a _working_ graphics output (to plug it to a projector); some laptops seem to have problems with this, under Linux... - it must have a supported WIFI chipset. I think about the only way to be quite sure wifi will work on a laptop is to get something with an intel cpu/chipset/wifi in it. intel actually tries to support linux for their wifi chips. My wife has an Asus R1F, which from what I have read is very very easy to install linux on, although she hasn't tried it yet. I believe it has the intel 39xx wifi chip (the a/b/g wifi) which recently had support contributed to the kernel by intel. I think the only part of that model that is known to not (yet) work with linux, is the tablet screen input, but it is USB based, and quite likely wacom based, so people are working on it. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd get an Intel P965 or 975 motherboard, besides some BIOS/MTRR issues with 4 and 8GB of memory, they work very well. Justin. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deciding on a new amd64 (laptop) system
Instead of Dell, you might consider someone like LAC http://laclinux.com They sell nothing but Linux installed on computers _AND_ they will pre-install the real Debian! I haven't bought from them, but plan to. Geary there did help me for free with a AMD kernel issue a few years ago. While I have several AMD servers, I would not let that control what you get for a lap-top. As someone that does hardware level work, I can testify that Intel is a lot more Linux friendly than they get credit for - they make a lot (not all) of their hardware data sheets available so drivers are easy to write. While not ideal, they have firmware drivers for wifi that just drop into place ( /lib/firmwwear). The thinkpad I set up for Linux went smoother than any other laptop. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 When faced with the reality that he would have to start working a real job for a living, the politician became about a quarter turn past hand tight. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deciding on a new amd64 (laptop) system
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 12:44:00AM +0200, Gilles Sadowski wrote: > Certainly not, I had only bad experiences with all-in-one systems. > Dell is probably better than Fujitsu-Siemens but I'd rather have > standard components, for a desktop computer. > > But... The budget we have might be enough to also buy a laptop. > Which one(s) would you recommend? The main requirements are that > - it must be light (the more so, the better); small screen size is not a > problem as this won't be for watching DVDs... > - it should have a _working_ graphics output (to plug it to a projector); > some laptops seem to have problems with this, under Linux... > - it must have a supported WIFI chipset. I think about the only way to be quite sure wifi will work on a laptop is to get something with an intel cpu/chipset/wifi in it. intel actually tries to support linux for their wifi chips. My wife has an Asus R1F, which from what I have read is very very easy to install linux on, although she hasn't tried it yet. I believe it has the intel 39xx wifi chip (the a/b/g wifi) which recently had support contributed to the kernel by intel. I think the only part of that model that is known to not (yet) work with linux, is the tablet screen input, but it is USB based, and quite likely wacom based, so people are working on it. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deciding on a new amd64 (laptop) system
Hello. > >Of course you can get a stupid little Athlon 64 X2 3600+ system from > >dell for $399CDN at the moment. Hard to beat that price/performance > >ratio. Of course it is a Dell, so who knows... :) > > > > If you go the Dell route [...] Certainly not, I had only bad experiences with all-in-one systems. Dell is probably better than Fujitsu-Siemens but I'd rather have standard components, for a desktop computer. But... The budget we have might be enough to also buy a laptop. Which one(s) would you recommend? The main requirements are that - it must be light (the more so, the better); small screen size is not a problem as this won't be for watching DVDs... - it should have a _working_ graphics output (to plug it to a projector); some laptops seem to have problems with this, under Linux... - it must have a supported WIFI chipset. Thanks, Gilles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
