Re: encrypting or password protecting files in OpenOffice and also jpg files and sending them to MSWindows users.....

2009-11-30 Thread Adam Stiles
On Friday 27 Nov 2009, Michael Fothergill wrote:
 Dear Debian folks,

 I use Open Office.  It works OK for me most of the time.  It can save files
 as Microsoft Word documents.  I work with people who use MSWindows software
 all the time such as MSWord etc.  I want to send an encrypted or password
 protected file to them.

 If you produce a word processor document in MSWord apparently according
 them you just click on some menu item with encypt on it and it encrypts the
 document for you.  Whether it attaches a password to it as well or how the
 user at the other end decrypts it I don't know

Password-protected Office and ZIP files are so trivial to crack, that you 
might just as well be sending them in the clear.

I'd use GnuPG to encrypt the e-mail message .  unless I was sending it 
over a secure intranet with no outside world access  (mailserver behind NAT, 
on an unroutable address and with no ports -- especially not 25 and 110 -- 
forwarded to the outside world).  In which case, there's no need for 
encryption anyway.

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Re: encrypting or password protecting files in OpenOffice and also jpg files and sending them to MSWindows users.....

2009-11-28 Thread Jonas Bardino
Michael Fothergill wrote:
 Dear Debian folks,
 
 I use Open Office.  It works OK for me most of the time.  It can save
 files as Microsoft Word documents.  I work with people who use MSWindows
 software all the time such as MSWord etc.  I want to send an encrypted
 or password protected file to them.
 
 If you produce a word processor document in MSWord apparently according
 them you just click on some menu item with encypt on it and it encrypts
 the document for you.  Whether it attaches a password to it as well or
 how the user at the other end decrypts it I don't know
 
 But with OpenOffice it doesn't look like there is an encryption function
 on it like there is in MSWord but there is a password protection option
 when you save a file in it.  If you look on google for Openoffice stuff
 on encryption on there it all reads like a chapter from Finnegan's Wake
 by James Joyce or even that it has itself been partly encrypted.  If
 you want to password protect or encrypt some files reasonably
 competently and then send them in a format the MSWindows world would
 decrypt relatively easily what would you do?
 
 Do I have to use other software like GnuPGP or whatever it is
 conjunction with Open Office?  Maybe I should just copy the files on to
 CD and then send them by old fashioned snail mail.  That really would
 confuse the hackers.
 
 Suggestions welcome,
 
 Michael Fothergill

Hi Michael

This question probably really belongs on debian-user@
(http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/) as it is not amd64 specific, but
anyway...

Apparently saving in MS format with password is available or under way
in OOo 3.x:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/openoffice/+bug/162057
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=39527
so upgrading may eventually be a solution.

Another option is to send a password protected zip file with the
document (e.g.
http://kagashe.blogspot.com/2008/08/how-to-password-protect-file-on-linux.html).
Zip extraction should be supported out of the box on windows. This is
probably as insecure as password protecting the document.

Most common email clients support encryption natively or with an add-on,
so that you can also go a step further and encrypt the entire
communication. Of course this requires some preparation from the
participants, unless they already posses encryption keys. However, once
set up it gives you strong encryption for all communication and all file
types.
In some countries signed encryption keys (sometimes called Digital
Signatures) are handed out to all citizens for authenticated and secure
communication with e.g. governmental bodies. In that case it is easy to
just reuse those. Please check Google results for 'gpg YOUR MAIL CLIENT'
and 'pgp/gpg RECIPIENT MAIL CLIENT' for details.

Cheers, Jonas


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Re: encrypting or password protecting files in OpenOffice and also jpg files and sending them to MSWindows users.....

2009-11-28 Thread C M Reinehr
On Sat 28 November 2009 05:36:29 am Jonas Bardino wrote:
 Michael Fothergill wrote:
  Dear Debian folks,
 
  I use Open Office.  It works OK for me most of the time.  It can save
  files as Microsoft Word documents.  I work with people who use MSWindows
  software all the time such as MSWord etc.  I want to send an encrypted
  or password protected file to them.
 
  If you produce a word processor document in MSWord apparently according
  them you just click on some menu item with encypt on it and it encrypts
  the document for you.  Whether it attaches a password to it as well or
  how the user at the other end decrypts it I don't know
 
  But with OpenOffice it doesn't look like there is an encryption function
  on it like there is in MSWord but there is a password protection option
  when you save a file in it.  If you look on google for Openoffice stuff
  on encryption on there it all reads like a chapter from Finnegan's Wake
  by James Joyce or even that it has itself been partly encrypted.  If
  you want to password protect or encrypt some files reasonably
  competently and then send them in a format the MSWindows world would
  decrypt relatively easily what would you do?
 
  Do I have to use other software like GnuPGP or whatever it is
  conjunction with Open Office?  Maybe I should just copy the files on to
  CD and then send them by old fashioned snail mail.  That really would
  confuse the hackers.
 
  Suggestions welcome,
 
  Michael Fothergill

 Hi Michael

 This question probably really belongs on debian-user@
 (http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/) as it is not amd64 specific, but
 anyway...

 Apparently saving in MS format with password is available or under way
 in OOo 3.x:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/openoffice/+bug/162057
 http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=39527
 so upgrading may eventually be a solution.

Michael,

No, that doesn't seem to be an option: Only documents using the 
OpenOffice.org XML-based format can be saved with a password. The option box 
grays out when you select MS.DOC format (or even .XML).

cmr

 Another option is to send a password protected zip file with the
 document (e.g.
 http://kagashe.blogspot.com/2008/08/how-to-password-protect-file-on-linux.h
tml). Zip extraction should be supported out of the box on windows. This is
 probably as insecure as password protecting the document.

 Most common email clients support encryption natively or with an add-on,
 so that you can also go a step further and encrypt the entire
 communication. Of course this requires some preparation from the
 participants, unless they already posses encryption keys. However, once
 set up it gives you strong encryption for all communication and all file
 types.
 In some countries signed encryption keys (sometimes called Digital
 Signatures) are handed out to all citizens for authenticated and secure
 communication with e.g. governmental bodies. In that case it is easy to
 just reuse those. Please check Google results for 'gpg YOUR MAIL CLIENT'
 and 'pgp/gpg RECIPIENT MAIL CLIENT' for details.

 Cheers, Jonas



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encrypting or password protecting files in OpenOffice and also jpg files and sending them to MSWindows users.....

2009-11-27 Thread Michael Fothergill
Dear Debian folks,

I use Open Office.  It works OK for me most of the time.  It can save files
as Microsoft Word documents.  I work with people who use MSWindows software
all the time such as MSWord etc.  I want to send an encrypted or password
protected file to them.

If you produce a word processor document in MSWord apparently according them
you just click on some menu item with encypt on it and it encrypts the
document for you.  Whether it attaches a password to it as well or how the
user at the other end decrypts it I don't know

But with OpenOffice it doesn't look like there is an encryption function on
it like there is in MSWord but there is a password protection option when
you save a file in it.  If you look on google for Openoffice stuff on
encryption on there it all reads like a chapter from Finnegan's Wake by
James Joyce or even that it has itself been partly encrypted.  If you
want to password protect or encrypt some files reasonably competently and
then send them in a format the MSWindows world would decrypt relatively
easily what would you do?

Do I have to use other software like GnuPGP or whatever it is conjunction
with Open Office?  Maybe I should just copy the files on to CD and then send
them by old fashioned snail mail.  That really would confuse the hackers.

Suggestions welcome,

Michael Fothergill