Re: gnome-session & charsh
> jchempaint is based on gtk, therefore, in principle, it might run on > other window managers based on gtk. However, if not offered as > precompiled (as within gnome), it is extremely arduous to compile. The fact that a program uses Gtk has no influence on what kind of window-manager you can use. Most Gtk programs will work just as happily under any window-manager, or no window-manager at all. > for GPU cards, to accelerate very heavy processes. I never tried if a > simple window manager provides adequate support to that. Similarly, the window-manager does not provide access to the GPU. It might *use* the GPU, just like your VMD program, but you definitely do not need a 3D window-manager to be able to use programs that need access to the GPU (if there is any interaction, it's more likely to be that a 3D window-manager does not let other applications use the GPU because it's already busy handling the needs of the window-manager). Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jwv8vd2pf3p.fsf-monnier+gmane.linux.debian.u...@gnu.org
Re: gnome-session & charsh
I am bound to gnome for the program "gchempaint". In my experience, it is the only program, freely available as gnu, that allows drawing chemical structures as required by chemical journals. jchempaint is based on gtk, therefore, in principle, it might run on other window managers based on gtk. However, if not offered as precompiled (as within gnome), it is extremely arduous to compile. Otherwise, I am unhappy with gnome, not only for what I wrote, but also because it lacks decent burners and pdf tools (I installed k3b and okular from kde, to this purpose). One should also take into account that VMD, used universally as 3D viewer in combination with molecular dynamics and other science, looks for GPU cards, to accelerate very heavy processes. I never tried if a simple window manager provides adequate support to that. What I blame of GNOME is that it wants to take possession of the computer. "startxx" / "gnome-session" avoids this, but presently it requires (perhaps) some extra settings, in order to avoid crashes. KDE is even worse to this respect. Finally, with so much automatic steps with gnome/kde, knowledge of unix is being lost, people converge to microsoft/apple the more and more. francesco On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 7:25 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 03:34:35PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: >> I suggest that in Debian mirrors, gnome is so arranged that launching >> it be an optional. In computational chemistry/biochemistry, >> particularly with amd64, most work is at the linux prompt. Now, with > > It would be better not to install gnome at all then. Just install a > basic window manager, and open an xterm as needed. > > > -- > "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people > who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the > oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caev0nmsk4nw2nce7hi9vtqt4wjumpsab+65tqmr1fm5zocz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: gnome-session & charsh
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 08:37:10AM -0500, Chris Swenson wrote: > I believe there's an option at install whether to install a GUI. But is there one to choose which GUI? -- hendrik > > – Chris Swenson > > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Francesco Pietra > wrote: > > > Hi all: > > Since the latest gnome, the sequence "startx" "gnome-session" is often > > attended by hanging of linux at "gnome-session" with both i386 and > > amd64 wheezy. Gnome dislikes much more than in the past not be set > > completely free. > > > > I suggest that in Debian mirrors, gnome is so arranged that launching > > it be an optional. In computational chemistry/biochemistry, > > particularly with amd64, most work is at the linux prompt. Now, with > > the advent of CPU-GPU systems, the graphic interface is used with > > servers ans testing version, too. But only at certain stages. > > > > Thanks > > > > francesco pietra > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > listmas...@lists.debian.org > > Archive: > > http://lists.debian.org/CAEv0nmuV=wrwi-yzl_urxmedsuo3zo9wfqq9ohcxkjo4x7c...@mail.gmail.com > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120824140614.gb8...@topoi.pooq.com
Re: gnome-session & charsh
I believe there's an option at install whether to install a GUI. – Chris Swenson On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Francesco Pietra wrote: > Hi all: > Since the latest gnome, the sequence "startx" "gnome-session" is often > attended by hanging of linux at "gnome-session" with both i386 and > amd64 wheezy. Gnome dislikes much more than in the past not be set > completely free. > > I suggest that in Debian mirrors, gnome is so arranged that launching > it be an optional. In computational chemistry/biochemistry, > particularly with amd64, most work is at the linux prompt. Now, with > the advent of CPU-GPU systems, the graphic interface is used with > servers ans testing version, too. But only at certain stages. > > Thanks > > francesco pietra > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > http://lists.debian.org/CAEv0nmuV=wrwi-yzl_urxmedsuo3zo9wfqq9ohcxkjo4x7c...@mail.gmail.com > >
gnome-session & charsh
Hi all: Since the latest gnome, the sequence "startx" "gnome-session" is often attended by hanging of linux at "gnome-session" with both i386 and amd64 wheezy. Gnome dislikes much more than in the past not be set completely free. I suggest that in Debian mirrors, gnome is so arranged that launching it be an optional. In computational chemistry/biochemistry, particularly with amd64, most work is at the linux prompt. Now, with the advent of CPU-GPU systems, the graphic interface is used with servers ans testing version, too. But only at certain stages. Thanks francesco pietra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAEv0nmuV=wrwi-yzl_urxmedsuo3zo9wfqq9ohcxkjo4x7c...@mail.gmail.com
