Re: how to get a new version of 'unrar' into the official repository?

2006-02-14 Thread Jo Shields

Max wrote:


On 2/13/06, Mark Nipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Well as Hamish stated, the license may not permit the
AMD64 people to distribute the package.
   



What's wrong with the license?
What makes AMD64 people different from i386 people?

 


The current solution is
to include deb-src lines for Debian non-free from official Debian
mirrors and build the package yourself.
   



Why not simply to include the source package in the debian-amd64 repository?
Is it againt the or what?

 


From my experience, package maintainers are willing to work with bug reports for
AMD64 when talking about actual bugs in the packages.  This will
at least allow you to continue to grab packages via 'apt-get
source' and build them locally.
   



But missing package is a bug, isn't it?
If not, then where to complain about such problems?

Max

 

Some packages in non-free are licensed only to the Debian project - 
which currently doesn't include AMD64. Hence the limited subset of 
non-free - all licenses were checked by hand, and only those available 
for distribution by non-Debian people (the AMD64 team) went in. There's 
no non-free autobuilder to prevent accidental inclusion of unlicensed 
software.



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how to get a new version of 'unrar' into the official repository?

2006-02-13 Thread Max
There is a new version of 'unrar' available for all platforms but AMD64.

The source package can be obtained from
http://debian.dev.sourceguru.net/unrar-nonfree
It compile and run smootly on debian-amd64. But how to get it into the
official repository?
My bugreport #335824 was closed because AMD64 is not an official
port and the bug is fixed for all other support platforms.

Max



Re: how to get a new version of 'unrar' into the official repository?

2006-02-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 04:06:53PM -0800, Max wrote:
 There is a new version of 'unrar' available for all platforms but AMD64.
 
 The source package can be obtained from
 http://debian.dev.sourceguru.net/unrar-nonfree
 It compile and run smootly on debian-amd64. But how to get it into the
 official repository?
 My bugreport #335824 was closed because AMD64 is not an official
 port and the bug is fixed for all other support platforms.

The maintainer can't really do anything about this; it's up to the AMD64
porters. There's no automatic building for non-free, because licenses
may not permit it etc.

There is no bug in the package (it DOES build on amd64, as you found
out), so there's no use in reporting bugs against that package.
I think the maintainer closed it for the wrong reason, but they are
still correct to close it.

Cheers,
Hamish
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Re: how to get a new version of 'unrar' into the official repository?

2006-02-13 Thread Max
On 2/13/06, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The maintainer can't really do anything about this; it's up to the AMD64
 porters. There's no automatic building for non-free, because licenses
 may not permit it etc.

OK, then how to draw attention of AMD64 porters to this problem?
I thought the bugreport would do that, but it did not.

Max



Re: how to get a new version of 'unrar' into the official repository?

2006-02-13 Thread Mark Nipper
On 13 Feb 2006, Max wrote:
 On 2/13/06, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The maintainer can't really do anything about this; it's up to the AMD64
  porters. There's no automatic building for non-free, because licenses
  may not permit it etc.
 
 OK, then how to draw attention of AMD64 porters to this problem?
 I thought the bugreport would do that, but it did not.

Well as Hamish stated, the license may not permit the
AMD64 people to distribute the package.  The current solution is
to include deb-src lines for Debian non-free from official Debian
mirrors and build the package yourself.  From my experience,
package maintainers are willing to work with bug reports for
AMD64 when talking about actual bugs in the packages.  This will
at least allow you to continue to grab packages via 'apt-get
source' and build them locally.

The long term solution of course is for some folks to
help out with the unrar-free package and get it working on 64-bit
platforms (and support RAR version 3 ultimately).

Please note that I am in no way affiliated with the AMD64
project or Debian itself (although I do provide mirrors for
both).  If at some point AMD64 officially is included under the
Debian umbrella, it might become possible to distribute non-free
also.  But I'm sure some Debian purists would like to purge the
entire non-free branch in general, and I can't say I disagree too
much with them.  However, being entirely practical for a moment,
I too have built the AMD64 version of unrar-nonfree for myself
via 'apt-get source ...; fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage' because
people are still distributing RAR's and I still need to unpack
them.  :)  It's not a perfect world unfortunately.

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Re: how to get a new version of 'unrar' into the official repository?

2006-02-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 10:25:13PM -0800, Max wrote:
 OK, then how to draw attention of AMD64 porters to this problem?
 I thought the bugreport would do that, but it did not.

No, the porters won't be searching all the bug reports in case of
amd64-specific issues.

I'd say posting to this list was the best way.

Hamish
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