Re: how to get all options from dpkg-reconfigure

2006-09-23 Thread Helge Hafting

Gabor Gombas wrote:

On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 10:21:48AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:

  

Try dpkg-reconfigure -p low xserver-xorg

Perhaps some of the questions are at a different priority than they used
to be.  Not sure.



Looking at the postinst script, those questions are only asked when the
package is installed for the first time or when upgrading from a really
old version. Otherwise it's up to the admin to edit xorg.conf.

An apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg _may_ work, I did not
test.
  

You can always make it the first time like this:
1. backup xorg.conf just to be safe
2. dpkg --purge xserver-xorg --force-depends
3. apt-get install xserver-xorg

The force-depends is so you won't have to remove every package
that depends on  xserver-xorg.  That just takes a lot of extra time.

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Re: how to get all options from dpkg-reconfigure

2006-09-21 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Dimitris Lampridis wrote:
 On Wednesday 20 September 2006 16:21, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
   
 On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 03:15:40PM +0200, Wolfgang Mader wrote:
 
 I want to update my refreching rate for my monitor, because I had to
 switch from a TFT to a normal screen.
 So I tried to type
 dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
 but I am not asked the questions I know from first set up of the xserver:
 which resolution and which refreching rate do you want?

 I do not think that I need to work on another package, xserver-xorg
 should be the right. But why am I not asked this questions.

 The same with exim4. At the first time you can choose if exim should
 handel all mails or just the lokal ones etc. I am also not able to select
 this behavior by using dpkg.

 What am I missing?
   
 Try dpkg-reconfigure -p low xserver-xorg

 Perhaps some of the questions are at a different priority than they used
 to be.  Not sure.
 

 That's what I thought as well when I first saw the posting, but before 
 suggesting to drop the priority, I tried it myself. Even in low priority, the 
 package configuration never asks for screen resolution, color depth etc.

   
I can confirm that xserver-xorg is not asking for resolutions and stuff
like that. I've tried it myself some time ago, and I had to manually
edit the xorg.conf file to suit my new monitor.

ii  xserver-xorg 7.0.22  the X.Org X
server



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Re: how to get all options from dpkg-reconfigure

2006-09-21 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 10:21:48AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:

 Try dpkg-reconfigure -p low xserver-xorg
 
 Perhaps some of the questions are at a different priority than they used
 to be.  Not sure.

Looking at the postinst script, those questions are only asked when the
package is installed for the first time or when upgrading from a really
old version. Otherwise it's up to the admin to edit xorg.conf.

An apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg _may_ work, I did not
test.

Gabor

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Re: how to get all options from dpkg-reconfigure

2006-09-21 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 07:59:08AM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:

 I can confirm that xserver-xorg is not asking for resolutions and stuff
 like that. I've tried it myself some time ago, and I had to manually
 edit the xorg.conf file to suit my new monitor.

If you have a moderately sane monitor (if it's not older than a couple
of years, it usually is - modulo firmware bugs), and a moderately sane
video card, then you could try to simply remove any monitor-specific
settings and let X.Org detect the monitor using EDID data.

Gabor

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Re: how to get all options from dpkg-reconfigure

2006-09-21 Thread Eduardo M Kalinowski
 Uzytkownik Gabor Gombas [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisal:
 If you have a moderately sane monitor (if it's not older than a couple
 of years, it usually is - modulo firmware bugs), and a moderately sane
 video card, then you could try to simply remove any monitor-specific
 settings and let X.Org detect the monitor using EDID data.
 
 Gabor
 

 I can confirm that - my new monitor was detected well by the xorg after
 removing all the monitor settings (I left the Identifier field of course, 
 and one
 option, but don't know if this option is necessary). The monitor section looks
 like this:

 Section Monitor
 Identifier Monitor 0
 Option DPMS
 EndSection

 But for the old monitor the other settings were needed.

In this case, how does one specify the desired resolution? Using xrandr only?

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Re: how to get all options from dpkg-reconfigure

2006-09-21 Thread Santiago R. Lunar M.

Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:

Dimitris Lampridis wrote:
  

On Wednesday 20 September 2006 16:21, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
  


On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 03:15:40PM +0200, Wolfgang Mader wrote:

  

I want to update my refreching rate for my monitor, because I had to
switch from a TFT to a normal screen.
So I tried to type
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
but I am not asked the questions I know from first set up of the xserver:
which resolution and which refreching rate do you want?

I do not think that I need to work on another package, xserver-xorg
should be the right. But why am I not asked this questions.

The same with exim4. At the first time you can choose if exim should
handel all mails or just the lokal ones etc. I am also not able to select
this behavior by using dpkg.

What am I missing?
  


Try dpkg-reconfigure -p low xserver-xorg

Perhaps some of the questions are at a different priority than they used
to be.  Not sure.

  
That's what I thought as well when I first saw the posting, but before 
suggesting to drop the priority, I tried it myself. Even in low priority, the 
package configuration never asks for screen resolution, color depth etc.


  


I can confirm that xserver-xorg is not asking for resolutions and stuff
like that. I've tried it myself some time ago, and I had to manually
edit the xorg.conf file to suit my new monitor.

ii  xserver-xorg 7.0.22  the X.Org X
server



  
I do to. The first time i installed it, it asked me the desire 
resolution but not anymore... the desired resolution didn't work as i 
spected, and my monitor is from 2002, i don't think it's quite old. I 
selected 1152x864 @75Hz and it's not working, i have 1024x768 @90, and i 
just don't get it... maybe it's about the driver thing? I have an Nvidia 
Gforce FX5500 and of course i haven't installed the original driver, but 
the one that Xorg has.


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Re: how to get all options from dpkg-reconfigure

2006-09-21 Thread tomek . fizyk
Użytkownik Eduardo M Kalinowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał:
 Uzytkownik Gabor Gombas [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisal:
 If you have a moderately sane monitor (if it's not older than a couple
 of years, it usually is - modulo firmware bugs), and a moderately sane
 video card, then you could try to simply remove any monitor-specific
 settings and let X.Org detect the monitor using EDID data.
 
 Gabor
 
 
 I can confirm that - my new monitor was detected well by the xorg after
 removing all the monitor settings (I left the Identifier field of course, 
 and one
 option, but don't know if this option is necessary). The monitor section 
 looks
 like this:
 
 Section Monitor
 Identifier Monitor 0
 Option DPMS
 EndSection
 
 But for the old monitor the other settings were needed.

In this case, how does one specify the desired resolution? Using xrandr only?


The screen resolution is not specified in the Monitor section, but in the
Screen section (in the Monitor section you only specify refresh rates for
the resolutions given in the Screen section, not the resolutions themselves).

For example:

Section Screen
Identifier Default Screen
Device Device 0
MonitorMonitor 0
DefaultDepth24
SubSection Display
Depth   1
Modes  1280x1024 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   4
Modes  1280x1024 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   8
Modes  1280x1024 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   15
Modes  1280x1024 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   16
Modes  1280x1024 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   24
Modes  1280x1024 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   32
Modes  1280x1024 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
EndSection

The Device your graphics card. In each SubSection you specify desired
screen resolutions for a given color depth.
The resolutions and the depths should be available in your monitor and
graphics card (check the manual).

Tomek


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Re: how to get all options from dpkg-reconfigure

2006-09-20 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 03:15:40PM +0200, Wolfgang Mader wrote:
 I want to update my refreching rate for my monitor, because I had to switch 
 from a TFT to a normal screen.
 So I tried to type
 dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
 but I am not asked the questions I know from first set up of the xserver: 
 which resolution and which refreching rate do you want?
 
 I do not think that I need to work on another package, xserver-xorg should be 
 the right. But why am I not asked this questions.
 
 The same with exim4. At the first time you can choose if exim should handel 
 all mails or just the lokal ones etc. I am also not able to select this 
 behavior by using dpkg.
 
 What am I missing?

Try dpkg-reconfigure -p low xserver-xorg

Perhaps some of the questions are at a different priority than they used
to be.  Not sure.

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Re: how to get all options from dpkg-reconfigure

2006-09-20 Thread Dimitris Lampridis
On Wednesday 20 September 2006 16:21, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 03:15:40PM +0200, Wolfgang Mader wrote:
  I want to update my refreching rate for my monitor, because I had to
  switch from a TFT to a normal screen.
  So I tried to type
  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
  but I am not asked the questions I know from first set up of the xserver:
  which resolution and which refreching rate do you want?
 
  I do not think that I need to work on another package, xserver-xorg
  should be the right. But why am I not asked this questions.
 
  The same with exim4. At the first time you can choose if exim should
  handel all mails or just the lokal ones etc. I am also not able to select
  this behavior by using dpkg.
 
  What am I missing?

 Try dpkg-reconfigure -p low xserver-xorg

 Perhaps some of the questions are at a different priority than they used
 to be.  Not sure.

That's what I thought as well when I first saw the posting, but before 
suggesting to drop the priority, I tried it myself. Even in low priority, the 
package configuration never asks for screen resolution, color depth etc.

With low priority, here's the list of settings I get:
 - video driver
 - video card name
 - bus name
 - video memory
 - use fb [y/N]
 - autodetect kbd layout [y/N]
 - kbd layout
 - XKB rule
 - kbd model
 - kbd variant
 - kbd options
 - mouse protocol
 - emulate 3rd button [y/N]
 - list of modules to load
 - write Files section [Y/n]

and that's it... Normally the screen settings were after mouse and before 
module loading if i'm not mistaken. Unfortunately I don't have any 
suggestions as to what might be wrong. 

Dimitris



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Re: how to get all options from dpkg-reconfigure

2006-09-19 Thread Espen Talberg
An easy solution would be to run these two as root:
f86config
base-config

Remember to backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf first

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