Re: ia32-apt-get breaks system

2009-07-05 Thread Raja R Harinath
Hi,

Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt writes:

 Did you follow instructions on
 /usr/share/doc/ia32-apt-get/README.Debian ? You must make sure i386
 has a lesser priority than amd64 and then run
 /usr/share/ia32-apt-get/convert-all-sources.list plus apt-get update

Hmm, why isn't that the default?  It's an amd64 system after all.

- Hari


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ia32-apt-get breaks system

2009-07-02 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Dear maintainers,

although I like the idea with the new ia32-libs, it breaks my system. As the 
loss of dependencies, the package googleearth and the commercial package 
ia32-crossover-pro are deleted by apt-get, although they could be installed 
before. 

But whom to blame now? The producer of those packages (googleearth could not 
be build again!) or debian, as things worked before (before the change of the 
system with ia32-libs)?

If the second case is true: should I file a bugreport???

Regards

Hans-J. Ullrich





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Re: ia32-apt-get breaks system

2009-07-02 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 05:50:15PM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
 although I like the idea with the new ia32-libs, it breaks my system. As the 
 loss of dependencies, the package googleearth and the commercial package 
 ia32-crossover-pro are deleted by apt-get, although they could be installed 
 before. 
 
 But whom to blame now? The producer of those packages (googleearth could not 
 be build again!) or debian, as things worked before (before the change of the 
 system with ia32-libs)?
 
 If the second case is true: should I file a bugreport???

Is the ia32-libs transition over yet (I highly doubt it)?

If not, then you probably have to just wait for that to finish.  Or stick
to testing where transitions shouldn't happen in stages.

Unstable is what it says it is.

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Re: ia32-apt-get breaks system

2009-07-02 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Donnerstag 02 Juli 2009 schrieb Lennart Sorensen:
 On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 05:50:15PM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
  although I like the idea with the new ia32-libs, it breaks my system. As
  the loss of dependencies, the package googleearth and the commercial
  package ia32-crossover-pro are deleted by apt-get, although they could
  be installed before.
 
  But whom to blame now? The producer of those packages (googleearth could
  not be build again!) or debian, as things worked before (before the
  change of the system with ia32-libs)?
 
  If the second case is true: should I file a bugreport???

 Is the ia32-libs transition over yet (I highly doubt it)?

 If not, then you probably have to just wait for that to finish.  Or stick
 to testing where transitions shouldn't happen in stages.

 Unstable is what it says it is.

 --
 Len Sorensen
Yes, yes, its o.k. for me with the policy of unstable. I just thought, I 
should mention such problems with those new features. So it might help you, to 
improve things. 

Thumbs up!

Hans



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Re: ia32-apt-get breaks system

2009-07-02 Thread Nuno Magalhães
Did you follow instructions on
/usr/share/doc/ia32-apt-get/README.Debian ? You must make sure i386
has a lesser priority than amd64 and then run
/usr/share/ia32-apt-get/convert-all-sources.list plus apt-get update

HTH

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Re: ia32-apt-get breaks system

2009-07-02 Thread Marlon Régis Schmitz
Seams that ia32-apt-get is really 'unstable'.


As I said, I'm a very experienced user on mixing testing+usntable
and even other origin sources (Debian + Kanotix + unofficial +
whatever-comes-to-my-mind). Yes, my system is not stable be used as a
server, but to a desktop this recipe have worked as a charm form me. A
lot of times a have to solve broken dependencies by hand (dpkg
--purge, wget to download, dpkg --install...) but in the end
everything goes fine.

But with the advent of ia32-ap-get I face the first time where
mixed 'sources.list' brings big troubles to my computer (HP Pavillion
dv5-1125br).

There's some point missing to get ia32-apt-get work as expected.
My case is punctual (a user who really likes to mix many things) but,
if theres is other users having trouble with ia32-apt-get just by
using testing/squeeze?

I have deinstaled packages by hand and reinstalled using aptitude,
need to make some pin before that. Now everything is working as
before.

Well, I'm not here just to complain about misworking of a
package/software, if theres' is something to do to help improving
ia32-ap-get stability/usability just say to me.

Many thanks to the developers and tester who are working hard to
make Debian (and derivatives) one of the most popular and usable Linux
distirbutions/Operating System.

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2009/7/2 Hans-J. Ullrich hans.ullr...@loop.de:
 Dear maintainers,

 although I like the idea with the new ia32-libs, it breaks my system. As the
 loss of dependencies, the package googleearth and the commercial package
 ia32-crossover-pro are deleted by apt-get, although they could be installed
 before.

 But whom to blame now? The producer of those packages (googleearth could not
 be build again!) or debian, as things worked before (before the change of the
 system with ia32-libs)?

 If the second case is true: should I file a bugreport???

 Regards

 Hans-J. Ullrich





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Re: ia32-apt-get breaks system

2009-07-02 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 06:06:37PM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
 Yes, yes, its o.k. for me with the policy of unstable. I just thought, I 
 should mention such problems with those new features. So it might help you, 
 to 
 improve things. 
 
 Thumbs up!

Well I am just another user.

I know there is a lot of packages to update for the new ia32 libs setup,
and it will take a while to finish.

Until it is done, I figure there isn't any need for more bug reports
about it.

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Re: ia32-apt-get breaks system

2009-07-02 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Donnerstag 02 Juli 2009 schrieb Nuno Magalhães:
 Did you follow instructions on
 /usr/share/doc/ia32-apt-get/README.Debian ? You must make sure i386
 has a lesser priority than amd64 and then run
 /usr/share/ia32-apt-get/convert-all-sources.list plus apt-get update

 HTH

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Shame on me! I did not read this time (but as usual I do, dammit). Anyway, I 
followed the instructions, but it did not work, due to dependencies. Look:

-
LANG=C apt-get install lib32nss-mdns
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  lib32nss-mdns: Depends: libc6-i386 (= 2.6-1) but it is not going to be 
installed
E: Broken packages
---

I think, this problem with libc-i386 is already known. Package googleearth is 
also not so important for me, but it is nice to demonstrate, what I meant.

However, I welcome the new ideas for ia32-libs, and it is crystal clear for 
me, that things always break in the beginning. It is unstable, where things 
break, were things go better ways, and were we all learn. So, please go on, 
even if users mention broken things! We all learn from these things.


Cheers

Hans
 


  



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Re: ia32-apt-get breaks system

2009-07-02 Thread Jaime Ochoa Malagón
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Hans-J. Ullrichhans.ullr...@loop.de wrote:
 Dear maintainers,

 although I like the idea with the new ia32-libs, it breaks my system. As the
 loss of dependencies, the package googleearth and the commercial package
 ia32-crossover-pro are deleted by apt-get, although they could be installed
 before.

I have ia32-apt-get for a while now and this is true googleearth stop
working in the last update because I test it months ago...

you only need to install ia32-libnss-mdns and googleearth works again...
(should depend on this library)

In general take a few minutes to check all your ia32 applications, all
should work...

ia32-libs is a bundle of libraries and configurations ia32-apt-get is
exactly the oposite a way to install the right libraries for your
application not all the common libraries needed

good luck


 But whom to blame now? The producer of those packages (googleearth could not
 be build again!) or debian, as things worked before (before the change of the
 system with ia32-libs)?

 If the second case is true: should I file a bugreport???

 Regards

 Hans-J. Ullrich





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