Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze

2005-07-26 Thread Jamie Jones
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 01:53 +0200, v0n0 wrote:
 
 Taking out the
 
 Option RenderAccel true
 
 from the device section in xorg.conf solved it for me.
 
 
   
 
 I knew this workaround, but I don't want to lose 3d acceleration!

This option doesn't make you use 3d acceleration, you just don't have
the X11 render extension accelerated, which means slightly slower screen
updates in OpenOffice.org or Firefox (but on an amd64 your not going to
notice the difference in speed anyway)

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Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze

2005-07-26 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)

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Le 26.07.2005 03:38:23, Mark Nipper a écrit :

On 25 Jul 2005, Jan Berndt wrote:
 Are you using powernowd? As for me the nvidia-driver and powernowd
won't work
 together. After removing powernowd everthing works fine (For two
days now!).

Actually, I experienced freezes with AMD64 using any
frequency scaling in the kernel.  I was using cpufreqd, but even
without a userland daemon and just toggling things myself via
echo, I could get my system to lock up.  I was testing things
using 32-bit mplayer in a chroot to play a Real Audio stream.

As soon as I took out all frequency scaling of my kernel,
the system was rock solid.  This was all done from a console
without loading my nVidia module and no X running, so I can say
with a decent amount of certainty that there may be problems in
general with frequency scaling and AMD64 kernels.


It depends of the meaning you attach to there may be ...
I'm using frequency scaling with powernowd without any problem on an  
Asus A8V Deluxe and an athlon64 1500+. Frequencies are 1, 1.8, 2 and  
2.2GHz.





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Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze

2005-07-26 Thread Jo Shields

Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote:


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Le 26.07.2005 03:38:23, Mark Nipper a écrit :


On 25 Jul 2005, Jan Berndt wrote:
 Are you using powernowd? As for me the nvidia-driver and powernowd
won't work
 together. After removing powernowd everthing works fine (For two
days now!).

 




I'd like to point out that I have had no such difficulties - 
cpufreq-userspace.ko, powernow-k8.ko, nvidia.ko, powernowd and 
nvidia-glx all play together in perfect harmony on my machine (Soltek 
K890Pro-939 board, Venice-core CPU, PCI-e Geforce 6800GT). I don't think 
there is a general case of powernow disliking Nvidia.


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Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze

2005-07-25 Thread v0n0
Mark Nipper ha scritto:

I'm using 7667 from experimental currently with no
problems.  

I didn't manage to make this work: I compiled and installed it, but when
I do modprobe nvidia it loads a kernel module version 7174, but X module
is 7667 (???). X doesn't start that way. I'm now using 7667 from nvidia
installer, but with no success with 2.6.12 kernel, as it freezes after
about 30 secs since I login in KDE...

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Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze

2005-07-25 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 08:16:32PM +0200, v0n0 wrote:
 I didn't manage to make this work: I compiled and installed it, but when
 I do modprobe nvidia it loads a kernel module version 7174, but X module
 is 7667 (???). X doesn't start that way. I'm now using 7667 from nvidia
 installer, but with no success with 2.6.12 kernel, as it freezes after
 about 30 secs since I login in KDE...

You did reextract and rebuild the module after installing the new
nvidia-kernel-source package right?

dpkg -l nvidia-kernel\*

Make sure the version is the new one.  And of course make sure you
actually built it for the current running kernel and not a different
version.

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Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze

2005-07-25 Thread v0n0
Lennart Sorensen ha scritto:

You did reextract and rebuild the module after installing the new
nvidia-kernel-source package right?

dpkg -l nvidia-kernel\*

Make sure the version is the new one.  

I'm pretty sure of this, before launching debian/rules binary_modules I
checked in nvidia-kernel dir to see which version was it, and inside a
script I read 7667!

And of course make sure you
actually built it for the current running kernel and not a different
version.
  

Sure of this, since name of the new deb was taken even from uname -r.
However, thanks for help!

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Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze

2005-07-25 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 08:31:21PM +0200, v0n0 wrote:
 Sure of this, since name of the new deb was taken even from uname -r.
 However, thanks for help!

Oh remember to stop X, modprobe -r nvidia, modprobe nvidia, start X

Otherwise you will still have the old module loaded (well unless you
rebooted that is).

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Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze

2005-07-25 Thread v0n0
Lennart Sorensen ha scritto:

Oh remember to stop X, modprobe -r nvidia, modprobe nvidia, start X

Otherwise you will still have the old module loaded (well unless you
rebooted that is).

  

I did this, I was in init 2! However, 7667 doesn't fix my problem with
X...I hope Nvidia is working on this...

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Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze

2005-07-25 Thread Jo Shields

v0n0 wrote:


Lennart Sorensen ha scritto:

 


Oh remember to stop X, modprobe -r nvidia, modprobe nvidia, start X

Otherwise you will still have the old module loaded (well unless you
rebooted that is).



   


I did this, I was in init 2! However, 7667 doesn't fix my problem with
X...I hope Nvidia is working on this...

 

Debian doesn't use a set runlevel for non-xfree86 use. g/k/s/w/xdm are 
all loaded in runlevel 2 if installed, by default.


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Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze

2005-07-25 Thread Jan Berndt
Are you using powernowd? As for me the nvidia-driver and powernowd won't work 
together. After removing powernowd everthing works fine (For two days now!).  


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Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze

2005-07-25 Thread v0n0
Jan Berndt ha scritto:

Are you using powernowd? As for me the nvidia-driver and powernowd won't work 
together. After removing powernowd everthing works fine (For two days now!).  

  

No, I'm not using powernod.

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Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze

2005-07-25 Thread v0n0
Brian McErlean ha scritto:

I've had similar freezes to this both on ubuntu and debian with x.org
and nvidia drivers.  The only way to break out was to ssh in from
another machine and kill Xorg (which was eating 100% cpu)

Taking out the

Option RenderAccel true

from the device section in xorg.conf solved it for me.


  

I knew this workaround, but I don't want to lose 3d acceleration!

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Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze

2005-07-25 Thread Mark Nipper
On 25 Jul 2005, Jan Berndt wrote:
 Are you using powernowd? As for me the nvidia-driver and powernowd won't work 
 together. After removing powernowd everthing works fine (For two days now!).  

Actually, I experienced freezes with AMD64 using any
frequency scaling in the kernel.  I was using cpufreqd, but even
without a userland daemon and just toggling things myself via
echo, I could get my system to lock up.  I was testing things
using 32-bit mplayer in a chroot to play a Real Audio stream.

As soon as I took out all frequency scaling of my kernel,
the system was rock solid.  This was all done from a console
without loading my nVidia module and no X running, so I can say
with a decent amount of certainty that there may be problems in
general with frequency scaling and AMD64 kernels.

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kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze

2005-07-23 Thread v0n0
I experience a freeze a few minutes after I login in my profile in
KDE...now I use Xorg, KDE 3.4.1 and kernel 2.6.12 but was the same with
Xfree, KDE 3.3.2 and kernel 2.6.11. After that I can only move cursor,
but the screen is unusable and keys don't work.
I'm using proprietary Nvidia drivers(1.0.7174-3). The strage thing is
that this doesn't occur with 2.6.8. Please help me to make work 2.6.12,
it's full of new features I need! (for example: my touchpad works
without any addition)

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Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze

2005-07-23 Thread v0n0
v0n0 ha scritto:

I experience a freeze a few minutes after I login in my profile in
KDE...now I use Xorg, KDE 3.4.1 and kernel 2.6.12 but was the same with
Xfree, KDE 3.3.2 and kernel 2.6.11. After that I can only move cursor,
but the screen is unusable and keys don't work.
I'm using proprietary Nvidia drivers(1.0.7174-3). The strage thing is
that this doesn't occur with 2.6.8. Please help me to make work 2.6.12,
it's full of new features I need! (for example: my touchpad works
without any addition)

  

Oh, it seems that is related to nvidia drivers...they haven't solved the
problem yet...anyway, when will amd64 become part of Debian? Shall we do
a petition or something else to accelerate the process?

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Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze

2005-07-23 Thread Sythos
Il Sat, 23 Jul 2005 13:59:04 +0200
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 problem yet...anyway, when will amd64 become part of Debian? Shall we do
 a petition or something else to accelerate the process?

install package, try it, if not work report bug or patch it, this is the right
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Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze

2005-07-23 Thread Andreas Richter
Am Samstag, 23. Juli 2005 13:08 schrieb v0n0:
 I'm using proprietary Nvidia drivers(1.0.7174-3). 

I use version 1.0-7664 here and it works for me.


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Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze

2005-07-23 Thread v0n0
Andreas Richter ha scritto:

Am Samstag, 23. Juli 2005 13:08 schrieb v0n0:
  

I'm using proprietary Nvidia drivers(1.0.7174-3). 



I use version 1.0-7664 here and it works for me.

  

Are you using nvidia installer?

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Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze

2005-07-23 Thread Andreas Richter
Am Samstag, 23. Juli 2005 19:08 schrieb v0n0:
 Are you using nvidia installer?

Yes.

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Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze

2005-07-23 Thread Brian McErlean
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 13:08:38 +0200
v0n0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I experience a freeze a few minutes after I login in my profile in
 KDE...now I use Xorg, KDE 3.4.1 and kernel 2.6.12

I've had similar freezes to this both on ubuntu and debian with x.org
and nvidia drivers.  The only way to break out was to ssh in from
another machine and kill Xorg (which was eating 100% cpu)

Taking out the

Option RenderAccel true

from the device section in xorg.conf solved it for me.


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