Re: laser printer that is very reliable that runs well under debian.....

2008-07-14 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 11:41:23AM -0500, Mark Allums wrote:
 My experience with Xerox is that they are overpriced and finicky.  HP is 
 not my favorite brand, but they do have good linux support now.  They 
 get credit for having some of the very best laser printers in the early 
 days, although I can't say anything about today.  Still I would give 
 them consideration, since the linux drivers are mostly open source and 
 mostly free.  Or at least widely available, including Debian support.

And my experience is HP printers are finicky and slow and a pain in the
ass, and their postscript support is a joke (no idea how they make it
that slow).

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Re: laser printer that is very reliable that runs well under debian.....

2008-07-14 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 04:21:43PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote:
 I bought a Samsung ML-2510 laser printer a while ago and drove it under 
 Debian Etch and now Lenny.
 
 It seems to have developed a fault of some sort.
 
 The manufacturer says that I can run diagnostic software under either Linux 
 (so it says) or MSWindows that might give me a hint as to why it is freezing 
 up.
 
 I don't think it is a paper jam.
 
 I could mess around with this but I am very busy.
 
 So very busy that it is cheaper in time and money to simply buy a new printer 
 to solve the problem.
 
 The printer cost me $100 or so.
 
 If I spent e.g. $1000 on a printer solely with the intent of finding one that 
 is very reliable that Lenny will drive well and smell  malfunctions and 
 diagnose what they are really well (better still the printer itself has a 
 display on it that gives copious details of any error on it indepedently of 
 the operating system that is driving it that anyone could understand 
 quickly), what printer would you recommend?
 
 I am beginning to understand why people buy printers from Xerox etc.

Well if I was buying a laser printer I would get the xerox 6130 or 6180,
since both have network support built in along with postscript 3
natively.  If it does postscript natively you can't go wrong.  Do wotch
out for the cheaters that just claim postscript support in their windows
or Mac driver which of course doesn't mean anything.  The 6125 on the
other hand does NOT have a print engine and doesn't do postscript and
only works with windows.  So no need to spend a $1000, about 350 to 400
should do.  As for diagnostics, the xerox printers have a web server
built in that gives you all the info you could want about what they are
doing.

So far I have been very impressed by the xerox laser printers.  My
father uses a 6300 which has been great, and we use a 7400 at work which
is a great printer (but much more expensive and a lot bigger).

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Re: laser printer that is very reliable that runs well under debian.....

2008-07-14 Thread C M Reinehr
Michael,

On Sun 13 July 2008 11:21, Michael Fothergill wrote:
 Dear folks,

 I bought a Samsung ML-2510 laser printer a while ago and drove it under
 Debian Etch and now Lenny.

 It seems to have developed a fault of some sort.

 The manufacturer says that I can run diagnostic software under either Linux
 (so it says) or MSWindows that might give me a hint as to why it is
 freezing up.

 I don't think it is a paper jam.

 I could mess around with this but I am very busy.

 So very busy that it is cheaper in time and money to simply buy a new
 printer to solve the problem.

 The printer cost me $100 or so.

 If I spent e.g. $1000 on a printer solely with the intent of finding one
 that is very reliable that Lenny will drive well and smell  malfunctions
 and diagnose what they are really well (better still the printer itself has
 a display on it that gives copious details of any error on it indepedently
 of the operating system that is driving it that anyone could understand
 quickly), what printer would you recommend?

 I am beginning to understand why people buy printers from Xerox etc.

 Regards

 Michael Fothergill

I've been using three different Ricoh printers here at the office, all under 
Etch for several years now without any serious problems. One is a color 
desktop, one is a BW desktop  one is a digital color 
copier/scanner/printer. IMHO the most important criteria are to select a 
model which natively supports Adobe PostScript and configure CUPS to use the 
appropriate PPD file.

The process has not been entirely painless. I've had some mechanical problems, 
but Ricoh factory service has been very dependable. One the one hand, Ricoh 
support will not hang up on you when you mention Linux, but on the other, 
there are some functions WRT to the multifunction printer that only can be 
accessed using a Windows driver.

HTH!

cmr

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Re: laser printer that is very reliable that runs well under debian.....

2008-07-14 Thread C M Reinehr
One more thing,

On Mon 14 July 2008 11:00, C M Reinehr wrote:
 Michael,

 On Sun 13 July 2008 11:21, Michael Fothergill wrote:
  Dear folks,
 
  I bought a Samsung ML-2510 laser printer a while ago and drove it under
  Debian Etch and now Lenny.
 
  It seems to have developed a fault of some sort.
 
  The manufacturer says that I can run diagnostic software under either
  Linux (so it says) or MSWindows that might give me a hint as to why it is
  freezing up.
 
  I don't think it is a paper jam.
 
  I could mess around with this but I am very busy.
 
  So very busy that it is cheaper in time and money to simply buy a new
  printer to solve the problem.
 
  The printer cost me $100 or so.
 
  If I spent e.g. $1000 on a printer solely with the intent of finding one
  that is very reliable that Lenny will drive well and smell  malfunctions
  and diagnose what they are really well (better still the printer itself
  has a display on it that gives copious details of any error on it
  indepedently of the operating system that is driving it that anyone could
  understand quickly), what printer would you recommend?
 
  I am beginning to understand why people buy printers from Xerox etc.
 
  Regards
 
  Michael Fothergill

 I've been using three different Ricoh printers here at the office, all
 under Etch for several years now without any serious problems. One is a
 color desktop, one is a BW desktop  one is a digital color
 copier/scanner/printer. IMHO the most important criteria are to select a
 model which natively supports Adobe PostScript and configure CUPS to use
 the appropriate PPD file.

 The process has not been entirely painless. I've had some mechanical
 problems, but Ricoh factory service has been very dependable. One the one
 hand, Ricoh support will not hang up on you when you mention Linux, but on
 the other, there are some functions WRT to the multifunction printer that
 only can be accessed using a Windows driver.

 HTH!

 cmr

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 More laws, less justice. -- Marcus Tullius Ciceroca, 42 BC

Prior to switching to Ricoh I was using HP and then Xerox. I have no regrets 
with switching to Ricoh.

cmr

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Re: laser printer that is very reliable that runs well under debian.....

2008-07-14 Thread Markus Neviadomski

Michael Fothergill schrieb:

Dear folks,

I bought a Samsung ML-2510 laser printer a while ago and drove it under Debian 
Etch and now Lenny.

It seems to have developed a fault of some sort.

The manufacturer says that I can run diagnostic software under either Linux (so 
it says) or MSWindows that might give me a hint as to why it is freezing up.

I don't think it is a paper jam.

I could mess around with this but I am very busy.

So very busy that it is cheaper in time and money to simply buy a new printer 
to solve the problem.

The printer cost me $100 or so.

If I spent e.g. $1000 on a printer solely with the intent of finding one that 
is very reliable that Lenny will drive well and smell  malfunctions and 
diagnose what they are really well (better still the printer itself has a 
display on it that gives copious details of any error on it indepedently of the 
operating system that is driving it that anyone could understand quickly), what 
printer would you recommend?
  


Hi Michael,

I bought a Brothzer HL5270DN printer 2 years ago. Its a network 
connected printer for small workgroups and i installed the printer on 
diefferent computers with different OS. There was Debian AMD64 unstable, 
Debian i686 stable and also Windows XP.
Sometimes I had some trouble with fonts when the original CUPS-driver 
was changed a lot. Another possibility is to use the original Brother 
PPD-File which is provided at the Brother support website.


Please dont aks for newer printer models, I have no experience with them.

regards,
Markus


I am beginning to understand why people buy printers from Xerox etc.

Regards

Michael Fothergill







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laser printer that is very reliable that runs well under debian.....

2008-07-13 Thread Michael Fothergill

Dear folks,

I bought a Samsung ML-2510 laser printer a while ago and drove it under Debian 
Etch and now Lenny.

It seems to have developed a fault of some sort.

The manufacturer says that I can run diagnostic software under either Linux (so 
it says) or MSWindows that might give me a hint as to why it is freezing up.

I don't think it is a paper jam.

I could mess around with this but I am very busy.

So very busy that it is cheaper in time and money to simply buy a new printer 
to solve the problem.

The printer cost me $100 or so.

If I spent e.g. $1000 on a printer solely with the intent of finding one that 
is very reliable that Lenny will drive well and smell  malfunctions and 
diagnose what they are really well (better still the printer itself has a 
display on it that gives copious details of any error on it indepedently of the 
operating system that is driving it that anyone could understand quickly), what 
printer would you recommend?

I am beginning to understand why people buy printers from Xerox etc.

Regards

Michael Fothergill







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Re: laser printer that is very reliable that runs well under debian.....

2008-07-13 Thread Mohd Irwan Jamaluddin
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 12:21 AM, Michael Fothergill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear folks,

 I bought a Samsung ML-2510 laser printer a while ago and drove it under 
 Debian Etch and now Lenny.

 It seems to have developed a fault of some sort.

 The manufacturer says that I can run diagnostic software under either Linux 
 (so it says) or MSWindows that might give me a hint as to why it is freezing 
 up.

 I don't think it is a paper jam.

 I could mess around with this but I am very busy.

 So very busy that it is cheaper in time and money to simply buy a new printer 
 to solve the problem.

 The printer cost me $100 or so.

 If I spent e.g. $1000 on a printer solely with the intent of finding one that 
 is very reliable that Lenny will drive well and smell  malfunctions and 
 diagnose what they are really well (better still the printer itself has a 
 display on it that gives copious details of any error on it indepedently of 
 the operating system that is driving it that anyone could understand 
 quickly), what printer would you recommend?

 I am beginning to understand why people buy printers from Xerox etc.


At a glance, it looks like Samsung ML-2510 should be a Linux-friendly
printer. You might want to check this,
http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Samsung-ML-2510

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Re: laser printer that is very reliable that runs well under debian.....

2008-07-13 Thread Mark Allums

Michael Fothergill wrote:
 Dear folks,

 I bought a Samsung ML-2510 laser printer a while ago and
drove it under Debian Etch and now Lenny.

 It seems to have developed a fault of some sort.

 The manufacturer says that I can run diagnostic software
under either Linux (so it says) or MSWindows that might
give me a hint as to why it is freezing up.

 I don't think it is a paper jam.

 I could mess around with this but I am very busy.

 So very busy that it is cheaper in time and money to
simply buy a new printer to solve the problem.

 The printer cost me $100 or so.

 If I spent e.g. $1000 on a printer solely with the
intent of finding one that is very reliable that Lenny
will drive well and smell  malfunctions and diagnose
what they are really well (better still the printer
itself has a display on it that gives copious details
of any error on it indepedently of the operating system
that is driving it that anyone could understand quickly),
 what printer would you recommend?

 I am beginning to understand why people buy printers from Xerox etc.

 Regards

 Michael Fothergill


My experience with Xerox is that they are overpriced and finicky.  HP is 
not my favorite brand, but they do have good linux support now.  They 
get credit for having some of the very best laser printers in the early 
days, although I can't say anything about today.  Still I would give 
them consideration, since the linux drivers are mostly open source and 
mostly free.  Or at least widely available, including Debian support.


Mark Allums


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