Re: linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64 kernel installed, but am I running a 64-bit system?

2008-05-02 Thread Robert Isaac
>
>  Whoa now, don't go bashing my diesels!  :)
>  350 HP, 650 lb-ft torque, > 15 mpg in a 7000
>  lb truck!
>

Plus you can convert the engine to run on waste vegetable oil AND have
your home invaded by angry gun toting IRS agents when you fail to pay
the fuel tax (USA only, sorry). :)


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Re: linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64 kernel installed, but am I running a 64-bit system?

2008-05-02 Thread Russ Cook

Michael Fothergill wrote:
Sorry about this. I had forgotten that sometimes people put the 32 bit OS on the 64 bit machines.  To me it seems like putting a diesel engine in a formula one car but there it is.  

  
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Re: linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64 kernel installed, but am I running a 64-bit system?

2008-05-02 Thread Alex Samad
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 05:03:14PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 06:40:03AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
> > On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 09:25:21AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> > > nspluginwrapper works for flash I think, so no need for chroot for that.
> > > As for java, sun seems to be promising a 64bit plugin by early next year
> > > (somehow they just can't seem to actually get any useful work done
> > > there in a timely manner).
> > any speculation on why that is ?
> 
> Because sun can't decide if they give a damn about linux or not, and
that I can understand

> probably because java is a big mess that isn't 64bit clean.  Although
but they have a 64bit client/server
> blackdown managed to do a 64bit plugin years ago, so one would think it
> couldn't be that hard.
yes, but that as 1.4.2 I think

If we are lucky classpath will catch up with 1.6 and so with gcj then we
will not have to worry about sun and their lax attitude 

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Re: linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64 kernel installed, but am I running a 64-bit system?

2008-05-02 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 06:40:03AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
> On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 09:25:21AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> > nspluginwrapper works for flash I think, so no need for chroot for that.
> > As for java, sun seems to be promising a 64bit plugin by early next year
> > (somehow they just can't seem to actually get any useful work done
> > there in a timely manner).
> any speculation on why that is ?

Because sun can't decide if they give a damn about linux or not, and
probably because java is a big mess that isn't 64bit clean.  Although
blackdown managed to do a 64bit plugin years ago, so one would think it
couldn't be that hard.

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Re: linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64 kernel installed, but am I running a 64-bit system?

2008-05-02 Thread Alex Samad
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 09:25:21AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 10:28:09PM +0100, Neil Stewart wrote:
> > Yep, that's done it.
> > 
> > On the non-confirmed i386 system:
> > # dpkg --print-architecture
> > i386
> > 
> > 
> > On the known amd_64 system:
> > # dpkg --print-architecture
> > amd64
> > 
> > Thanks again. Now I just need to get my chroot set up for flash and java
> > plugins on iceweasel. Fortunately, there are some good howtos for this.
> 
> nspluginwrapper works for flash I think, so no need for chroot for that.
> As for java, sun seems to be promising a 64bit plugin by early next year
> (somehow they just can't seem to actually get any useful work done
> there in a timely manner).
any speculation on why that is ?

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Re: linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64 kernel installed, but am I running a 64-bit system?

2008-05-02 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 10:28:09PM +0100, Neil Stewart wrote:
> Yep, that's done it.
> 
> On the non-confirmed i386 system:
> # dpkg --print-architecture
> i386
> 
> 
> On the known amd_64 system:
> # dpkg --print-architecture
> amd64
> 
> Thanks again. Now I just need to get my chroot set up for flash and java
> plugins on iceweasel. Fortunately, there are some good howtos for this.

nspluginwrapper works for flash I think, so no need for chroot for that.
As for java, sun seems to be promising a 64bit plugin by early next year
(somehow they just can't seem to actually get any useful work done
there in a timely manner).

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Re: linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64 kernel installed, but am I running a 64-bit system?

2008-05-01 Thread Brian Oborn

Neil Stewart wrote:

Thank you all very much for all of your help. I think you've solved this
one. I do _seem_ to be running a 32-bit system after foolishly using a
32-bit CD. But one small point: How can I get the system to report which
type it is? uname -a does not seem to work.
  

I like to use the file command:
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/bin/bash: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for 
GNU/Linux 2.6.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 
2.6.0, stripped


(the /bin/bash can be any compiled executable or library)

Hope this helps

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Re: linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64 kernel installed, but am I running a 64-bit system?

2008-05-01 Thread Neil Stewart
> On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 09:50:31PM +0100, Neil Stewart wrote:
> > Thank you all very much for all of your help. I think you've solved this
> > one. I do _seem_ to be running a 32-bit system after foolishly using a
> > 32-bit CD. But one small point: How can I get the system to report which
> > type it is? uname -a does not seem to work.
>
> dpkg --print-architecture

Yep, that's done it.

On the non-confirmed i386 system:
# dpkg --print-architecture
i386


On the known amd_64 system:
# dpkg --print-architecture
amd64

Thanks again. Now I just need to get my chroot set up for flash and java
plugins on iceweasel. Fortunately, there are some good howtos for this.


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Re: linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64 kernel installed, but am I running a 64-bit system?

2008-05-01 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 09:50:31PM +0100, Neil Stewart wrote:
> Thank you all very much for all of your help. I think you've solved this
> one. I do _seem_ to be running a 32-bit system after foolishly using a
> 32-bit CD. But one small point: How can I get the system to report which
> type it is? uname -a does not seem to work.

dpkg --print-architecture

> > what does uname -a give out?  I suspect on was 32bit and the other was
> > 64bit (amd64)
> 
> On the known 64-bit system uname -a gives:
> 
> Linux stewart 2.6.18-6-amd64 #1 SMP Sun Feb 10 17:50:19 UTC 2008 x86_64
> GNU/Linux

uname tells you the kernel architecture.  amd64 kernels can run i386
binaries, which is what you are doing.

> On the suspected 32-bit system with a amd64 kernel uname -a gives:
> 
> Linux sdell03 2.6.18-6-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Apr 24 10:20:33 UTC 2008 x86_64
> GNU/Linux
> 
> which would seem to suggest that I'm running a 64-bit system. But on the
> same suspected 32-bit system with a k7 kernel uname -a gives:
> 
> Linux sdell03 2.6.18-6-k7 #1 SMP Thu Apr 24 09:09:38 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
> 
> Note the i686. So uname -a seems to give a kernel-dependent answer and not
> an answer dependent on which installer was used.
> 
> uname -i gives "unknown".
> 
> Which command should I use to report the system type and not the kernel type. 
> I
> think "file" gives useful information. On the known 64-bit system file
> /lib/libc-2.3.6.so gives:
> 
> /lib/libc-2.3.6.so: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, AMD x86-64, version 1
> (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, stripped
> 
> but on the suspected 32-bit system file /lib/libc-2.3.6.so gives:
> 
> /lib/libc-2.3.6.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1
> (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, stripped
> 
> Is there another way?

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Re: linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64 kernel installed, but am I running a 64-bit system?

2008-05-01 Thread Neil Stewart
Thank you all very much for all of your help. I think you've solved this
one. I do _seem_ to be running a 32-bit system after foolishly using a
32-bit CD. But one small point: How can I get the system to report which
type it is? uname -a does not seem to work.

> what does uname -a give out?  I suspect on was 32bit and the other was
> 64bit (amd64)

On the known 64-bit system uname -a gives:

Linux stewart 2.6.18-6-amd64 #1 SMP Sun Feb 10 17:50:19 UTC 2008 x86_64
GNU/Linux


On the suspected 32-bit system with a amd64 kernel uname -a gives:

Linux sdell03 2.6.18-6-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Apr 24 10:20:33 UTC 2008 x86_64
GNU/Linux

which would seem to suggest that I'm running a 64-bit system. But on the
same suspected 32-bit system with a k7 kernel uname -a gives:

Linux sdell03 2.6.18-6-k7 #1 SMP Thu Apr 24 09:09:38 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux

Note the i686. So uname -a seems to give a kernel-dependent answer and not
an answer dependent on which installer was used.

uname -i gives "unknown".

Which command should I use to report the system type and not the kernel type. I
think "file" gives useful information. On the known 64-bit system file
/lib/libc-2.3.6.so gives:

/lib/libc-2.3.6.so: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, AMD x86-64, version 1
(SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, stripped

but on the suspected 32-bit system file /lib/libc-2.3.6.so gives:

/lib/libc-2.3.6.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1
(SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, stripped

Is there another way?



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Re: linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64 kernel installed, but am I running a 64-bit system?

2008-05-01 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 06:09:41PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote:
> Sorry about this. I had forgotten that sometimes people put the 32 bit OS on 
> the 64 bit machines.  To me it seems like putting a diesel engine in a 
> formula one car but there it is.  

Have you seen the Audi R10?  Seems like a great idea.  And a 64bit
kernel with 32bit user space does have some advantages too.

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RE: linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64 kernel installed, but am I running a 64-bit system?

2008-05-01 Thread Michael Fothergill


-d:
> 
> 
>> Yes you are using a 64 bit system. You need to follow the recipe in the 
>> Debian Way nvidia howto plus helpful suggestions from  e.g. Lennart Sorensen.
> 
> yet dpkg says he IS running an i386 package:  /package architecture 
> (amd64) does not match system (i386)
> 
> /Now you might know something I don't, but that looks pretty black and 
> white to me.
> 
> HTH

Sorry about this. I had forgotten that sometimes people put the 32 bit OS on 
the 64 bit machines.  To me it seems like putting a diesel engine in a formula 
one car but there it is.  

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Re: linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64 kernel installed, but am I running a 64-bit system?

2008-05-01 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 04:46:01PM +0100, Neil Stewart wrote:
> I'm running debian etch on an amd64 machine. I've got the right kernel
> installed and running:
> 
> # uname -r
> 2.6.18-6-amd64
> 
> I'm trying to install the nvidia-kernel-2.6-amd64 package. I can't find the
> package in aptitude. Aptitude only lists other versions:
> 
> # aptitude search nvidia-kernel
> v   nvidia-kernel-1.0.8776
>  -
> p   nvidia-kernel-2.6-486 
>  - NVIDIA binary kernel module for 2.6 series compiled for 486
> p   nvidia-kernel-2.6-686 
>  - NVIDIA binary kernel module for 2.6 series compiled for 686
> p   nvidia-kernel-2.6-k7  
>  - NVIDIA binary kernel module for 2.6 series compiled for k7
> p   nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-486
>  - NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.6.18-6-486
> p   nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-686
>  - NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.6.18-6-686
> p   nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-k7 
>  - NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.6.18-6-k7
> i   nvidia-kernel-common  
>  - NVIDIA binary kernel module common files
>  ... and legacy versions ...
> p   nvidia-kernel-source  
>  - NVIDIA binary kernel module source
> 
> I'm pretty sure I've got my /etc/apt/sources.list contents correct:
> deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free
> deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
> 
> I also know that the .deb exists here
> (http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/n/nvidia-graphics-modules-amd64/).
> 
> When I download these and install them dpkg complains that I'm trying to
> install an amd64 package on a i386 system.
> 
> # dpkg -i nvidia-kernel-2.6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb 
> nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb
> dpkg: error processing nvidia-kernel-2.6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb
> (--install):
>  package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386)
> dpkg: error processing
> nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb (--install):
>  package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386)
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  nvidia-kernel-2.6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb
>  nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb
> 
> Presumably this is why aptitude didn't list the package in the first place.
> 
> Discussion here
> (http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=12966&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15)
> seems to indicate that I need to be running an amd64 system.
> 
> So, here are my questions:
> 
> 1. I'm running a 64-bit kernel, but am I running a 64-bit system? If not,
> how does one install a 64-bit system using the debian installer? Presumably
> then I could install the nvidia drivers?
> 
> 2. Should I instead leave things as they are to use the official debian
> distribution and do something different to get the nvidia driver?
> 
> 3. Given I can't compile the source code debian version or the version from
> the nvidia pages, is there a way forward?
> 
> Finally, I've got another amd64 system with the same kernel, but this one
> does have the nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-amd64 package installed. But I am at a
> complete loss as to how the systems are different: /etc/apt/sources.list is
> exactly the same and the kernel is exactly the same!

You are running an amd64 kernel but an i386 system (which works fine,
except for compiling kernel modules).

To run a true 64bit system with both 64bit kernel and userspace would
require reinstalling using the amd64 installer instead.

I am sure it is technically posible to get the nvidia module compiled,
but it could be a real pain.  Personally I only run a 64bit kernel with
32bit user space on a build server at work that doesn't use X.  At home
I run pure 64bit on one machine, and pure 32bit on an older machine that
isn't 64bit capable, and both work great.

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Re: linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64 kernel installed, but am I running a 64-bit system?

2008-05-01 Thread Damon L. Chesser

Michael,

I have to disagree with part of your answer:


When I download these and install them dpkg complains that I'm trying to
install an amd64 package on a i386 system.

# dpkg -i nvidia-kernel-2.6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb 
nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb
dpkg: error processing nvidia-kernel-2.6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb
(--install):
 package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386)
dpkg: error processing
nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb (--install):
 package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386)
Errors were encountered while processing:
 nvidia-kernel-2.6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb
 nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb

You said:



Yes you are using a 64 bit system. You need to follow the recipe in the Debian 
Way nvidia howto plus helpful suggestions from  e.g. Lennart Sorensen.


yet dpkg says he IS running an i386 package:  /package architecture 
(amd64) does not match system (i386)


/Now you might know something I don't, but that looks pretty black and 
white to me.


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Re: linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64 kernel installed, but am I running a 64-bit system?

2008-05-01 Thread Damon L. Chesser

Neil Stewart wrote:

I'm running debian etch on an amd64 machine. I've got the right kernel
installed and running:

# uname -r
2.6.18-6-amd64

I'm trying to install the nvidia-kernel-2.6-amd64 package. I can't find the
package in aptitude. Aptitude only lists other versions:

# aptitude search nvidia-kernel
v   nvidia-kernel-1.0.8776  
   -
p   nvidia-kernel-2.6-486   
   - NVIDIA binary kernel module for 2.6 series compiled for 486
p   nvidia-kernel-2.6-686   
   - NVIDIA binary kernel module for 2.6 series compiled for 686
p   nvidia-kernel-2.6-k7
   - NVIDIA binary kernel module for 2.6 series compiled for k7
p   nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-486  
   - NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.6.18-6-486
p   nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-686  
   - NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.6.18-6-686
p   nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-k7   
   - NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.6.18-6-k7
i   nvidia-kernel-common
   - NVIDIA binary kernel module common files
 ... and legacy versions ...
p   nvidia-kernel-source
   - NVIDIA binary kernel module source

I'm pretty sure I've got my /etc/apt/sources.list contents correct:
deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free

I also know that the .deb exists here
(http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/n/nvidia-graphics-modules-amd64/).

When I download these and install them dpkg complains that I'm trying to
install an amd64 package on a i386 system.

# dpkg -i nvidia-kernel-2.6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb 
nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb
dpkg: error processing nvidia-kernel-2.6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb
(--install):
 package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386)
dpkg: error processing
nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb (--install):
 package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386)
Errors were encountered while processing:
 nvidia-kernel-2.6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb
 nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb

Presumably this is why aptitude didn't list the package in the first place.

Discussion here
(http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=12966&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15)
seems to indicate that I need to be running an amd64 system.

So, here are my questions:

1. I'm running a 64-bit kernel, but am I running a 64-bit system? If not,
how does one install a 64-bit system using the debian installer? Presumably
then I could install the nvidia drivers?
  


Go here:  http://www.us.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ or here: 
http://www.us.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/


find the link that says amd64:  
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r3/amd64/bt-cd/ 

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r3/amd64/iso-cd/  download


^  Those are for the cd/DVD collection if you want it.

Here for the netinstall:

http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/  you need, full install media or netinstall amd64 is what you want/NEED 
if you want a 64bit system.




2. Should I instead leave things as they are to use the official debian
distribution and do something different to get the nvidia driver?
  


change kernels back to K7/686 (K7 if you have an amd proc, 686 if intel) 
and install the nvidia stuff:


see this page for the debian nvidia wiki:  fool proof, just follow the 
directions: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers




3. Given I can't compile the source code debian version or the version from
the nvidia pages, is there a way forward?
  


See answer for #2 above.

Finally, I've got another amd64 system with the same kernel, but this one
does have the nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-amd64 package installed. But I am at a
complete loss as to how the systems are different: /etc/apt/sources.list is
exactly the same and the kernel is exactly the same!
  


what does uname -a give out?  I suspect on was 32bit and the other was 
64bit (amd64)



  

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RE: linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64 kernel installed, but am I running a 64-bit system?

2008-05-01 Thread Michael Fothergill



> Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 16:46:01 +0100
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org
> Subject: linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64 kernel installed, but am I running a 
> 64-bit system?
> 
> I'm running debian etch on an amd64 machine. I've got the right kernel
> installed and running:
> 
> # uname -r
> 2.6.18-6-amd64
> 
> I'm trying to install the nvidia-kernel-2.6-amd64 package. I can't find the
> package in aptitude. Aptitude only lists other versions:
> 
You need to upgrade to Lenny.  You will need stuff from the sid repositories as 
well.  Find the Debian Way nvidia installation guide with Google.

> # aptitude search nvidia-kernel
> v   nvidia-kernel-1.0.8776
>  -
> p   nvidia-kernel-2.6-486 
>  - NVIDIA binary kernel module for 2.6 series compiled for 486
> p   nvidia-kernel-2.6-686 
>  - NVIDIA binary kernel module for 2.6 series compiled for 686
> p   nvidia-kernel-2.6-k7  
>  - NVIDIA binary kernel module for 2.6 series compiled for k7
> p   nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-486
>  - NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.6.18-6-486
> p   nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-686
>  - NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.6.18-6-686
> p   nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-k7 
>  - NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.6.18-6-k7
> i   nvidia-kernel-common  
>  - NVIDIA binary kernel module common files
>  ... and legacy versions ...
> p   nvidia-kernel-source  
>  - NVIDIA binary kernel module source
> 
> I'm pretty sure I've got my /etc/apt/sources.list contents correct:
> deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free
> deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
> 
> I also know that the .deb exists here
> (http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/n/nvidia-graphics-modules-amd64/).
> 
> When I download these and install them dpkg complains that I'm trying to
> install an amd64 package on a i386 system.
> 
> # dpkg -i nvidia-kernel-2.6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb 
> nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb
> dpkg: error processing nvidia-kernel-2.6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb
> (--install):
>  package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386)
> dpkg: error processing
> nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb (--install):
>  package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386)
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  nvidia-kernel-2.6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb
>  nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb
> 
> Presumably this is why aptitude didn't list the package in the first place.
> 
> Discussion here
> (http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=12966&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15)
> seems to indicate that I need to be running an amd64 system.
> 
> So, here are my questions:
> 
> 1. I'm running a 64-bit kernel, but am I running a 64-bit system? If not,
> how does one install a 64-bit system using the debian installer? Presumably
> then I could install the nvidia drivers?

Yes you are using a 64 bit system. You need to follow the recipe in the Debian 
Way nvidia howto plus helpful suggestions from  e.g. Lennart Sorensen.
> 
> 2. Should I instead leave things as they are to use the official debian
> distribution and do something different to get the nvidia driver?

Get Lenny and modify the kernel.
> 
> 3. Given I can't compile the source code debian version or the version from
> the nvidia pages, is there a way forward?

deb-src repositories have the the code in there.  You use gcc to make the new 
kernel. Its in the Debian Way nvidia installation guide.
> 
> Finally, I've got another amd64 system with the same kernel, but this one
> does have the nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-amd64 package installed. But I am at a
> complete loss as to how the systems are different: /etc/apt/sources.list is
> exactly the same and the kernel is exactly the same!

Ignore it and carry on with the above.

Regards

Michael Fothergill
> 
> 
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linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64 kernel installed, but am I running a 64-bit system?

2008-05-01 Thread Neil Stewart
I'm running debian etch on an amd64 machine. I've got the right kernel
installed and running:

# uname -r
2.6.18-6-amd64

I'm trying to install the nvidia-kernel-2.6-amd64 package. I can't find the
package in aptitude. Aptitude only lists other versions:

# aptitude search nvidia-kernel
v   nvidia-kernel-1.0.8776  
   -
p   nvidia-kernel-2.6-486   
   - NVIDIA binary kernel module for 2.6 series compiled for 486
p   nvidia-kernel-2.6-686   
   - NVIDIA binary kernel module for 2.6 series compiled for 686
p   nvidia-kernel-2.6-k7
   - NVIDIA binary kernel module for 2.6 series compiled for k7
p   nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-486  
   - NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.6.18-6-486
p   nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-686  
   - NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.6.18-6-686
p   nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-k7   
   - NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.6.18-6-k7
i   nvidia-kernel-common
   - NVIDIA binary kernel module common files
 ... and legacy versions ...
p   nvidia-kernel-source
   - NVIDIA binary kernel module source

I'm pretty sure I've got my /etc/apt/sources.list contents correct:
deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free

I also know that the .deb exists here
(http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/n/nvidia-graphics-modules-amd64/).

When I download these and install them dpkg complains that I'm trying to
install an amd64 package on a i386 system.

# dpkg -i nvidia-kernel-2.6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb 
nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb
dpkg: error processing nvidia-kernel-2.6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb
(--install):
 package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386)
dpkg: error processing
nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb (--install):
 package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386)
Errors were encountered while processing:
 nvidia-kernel-2.6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb
 nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-amd64_1.0.8776+6etch2_amd64.deb

Presumably this is why aptitude didn't list the package in the first place.

Discussion here
(http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=12966&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15)
seems to indicate that I need to be running an amd64 system.

So, here are my questions:

1. I'm running a 64-bit kernel, but am I running a 64-bit system? If not,
how does one install a 64-bit system using the debian installer? Presumably
then I could install the nvidia drivers?

2. Should I instead leave things as they are to use the official debian
distribution and do something different to get the nvidia driver?

3. Given I can't compile the source code debian version or the version from
the nvidia pages, is there a way forward?

Finally, I've got another amd64 system with the same kernel, but this one
does have the nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-amd64 package installed. But I am at a
complete loss as to how the systems are different: /etc/apt/sources.list is
exactly the same and the kernel is exactly the same!



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