Re: lockup at boot with kernel 2.6.14...
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 10.11.2005, 12:50 +0100 schrieb Giacomo Mulas: Hello, I am experiencing a very strange behaviour on my Asus A6k Turion64 laptop running sid. It used to work ok with a custom-compiled (from the debian-packaged source) 2.6.12 kernel. When the debian-packaged source for 2.6.14 became available, I copied over my old .config, did a make oldconfig answering the relevant questions, built a new kernel without any errors, installed it. Then I experienced this weird situation: the system boots, loads the ramdisk, does its initial setup, mounts the root filesystem, switches root... all ok until it gets to starting udev. Then udev's hotplug kicks in and starts loading modules and... in an erratic, unpredictable way, it hangs while loading the usb hcd module, without any error message. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't and the boot procedure then goes smooth and the computer runs without a hitch thereafter. It does not happen at all with 2.6.12, therefore it must be something which changed between 2.6.12 and 2.6.14 (a shipload of things, unfortunately...). I was unable to relate the hangs to anything, they seem to be just random. The only thing which is reproducible is that the system always hangs (when it does) while loading the ehci_hcd module. I did not even file a bug report yet, since I don't quite understand whether this is a kernel or a udev issue. Same here on sid/x86. Please scroll up using shift-PgUp. It looked the same here: The machine bootet into a kind of emergency shell with limited features. So I get a prompt. But then(!) the fresh loaded USB-modules produce a lot of output, so the real problem ist described four pages up. The last messages you can see on screen is that output. I accidently pressed return and was very surprised to get a prompt. The problem for me was that kernel2.6.14/udec/initramfd/whoever changes my drives order while booting. Instead of sda1 sdb1 sdc1,2,3 ...I suddenly had: sda1,2,3 sdb1 sdc1 I managed to get my machine kind-of booting by building a new kernel, where I included lots of modules for board, ide, sata, fs,... Bye, Ratti -- -o) fontlinge | Fontmanagement for Linux | Schriftenverwaltung in Linux /\\ http://freshmeat.net/projects/fontlinge/ _\_V http://www.gesindel.de https://sourceforge.net/projects/fontlinge/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: lockup at boot with kernel 2.6.14...
just for an update: I arranged my startup scripts to load ehci_hcd from the /etc/modules list _before_ the udev daemon is started. I still have exactly the same behaviour, i.e. random hangs when ehci_hcd gets loaded. I suppose this rules out the udev daemon as the culprit, since I get the hangs before it gets to run... I will try and have a look at the kernel mailing list to see whether there is something specifically on this, then try to see what changed in that subsystem between 2.6.12 and 2.6.14 and see if I can make any sense of it. Bye Giacomo -- _ Giacomo Mulas [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ OSSERVATORIO ASTRONOMICO DI CAGLIARI Str. 54, Loc. Poggio dei Pini * 09012 Capoterra (CA) Tel. (OAC): +39 070 71180 248 Fax : +39 070 71180 222 Tel. (UNICA): +39 070 675 4916 _ When the storms are raging around you, stay right where you are (Freddy Mercury) _ -- Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e' risultato non infetto. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lockup at boot with kernel 2.6.14...
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005, Giacomo Mulas wrote: I will try and have a look at the kernel mailing list to see whether there is something specifically on this, then try to see what changed in that subsystem between 2.6.12 and 2.6.14 and see if I can make any sense of it. I found in the linux kernel mailing list a thread which almost exactly describes my same problem. The person reporting it solved it by a BIOS upgrade, which is going to be my next try. Of course, while I immediately found a BIOS image, this is not even a bootable disk image, it is supposed to be installed using a dedicated Winzozz utility. This is crazy. Can anybody help me upgrading the BIOS on my linux-only Asus A6K without having to install some sort of win XP on it??? bye Giacomo -- _ Giacomo Mulas [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ OSSERVATORIO ASTRONOMICO DI CAGLIARI Str. 54, Loc. Poggio dei Pini * 09012 Capoterra (CA) Tel. (OAC): +39 070 71180 248 Fax : +39 070 71180 222 Tel. (UNICA): +39 070 675 4916 _ When the storms are raging around you, stay right where you are (Freddy Mercury) _ -- Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e' risultato non infetto. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lockup at boot with kernel 2.6.14...
On Thursday 10 November 2005 07:25, Ed Tomlinson wrote: Hi, 2.6.14.2 should be out this weekend. The .1 fixes a security issue, .2 fixes bind (0 sized icmp packets) and several other bugs. Might be worth waiting. It also is worth trying to boot with apci disabled. Ed Tomlinson 2.6.14.2 is out - Note the fix list - the third one may help you.Its also worth making sure you have an up-to-date modutils package. Debian udev stresses modules loads Ed == Adrian Bunk: airo.c/airo_cs.c: correct prototypes Dimitri Puzin: fix XFS_QUOTA for modular XFS Greg Kroah-Hartman: USB: always export interface information for modalias Linux 2.6.14.2 Herbert Xu: NET: Fix zero-size datagram reception Ivan Kokshaysky: fix alpha breakage Jens Axboe: Oops on suspend after on-the-fly switch to anticipatory i/o scheduler - PowerBook5, 4 Julian Anastasov: ipvs: fix connection leak if expire_nodest_conn=1 Linus Torvalds: Fix ptrace self-attach rule Oleg Nesterov: - fix signal-live leak in copy_process() fix de_thread() vs send_group_sigqueue() race Roger While: prism54 : Fix frame length Stephen Hemminger: tcp: BIC max increment too large - On Thursday 10 November 2005 06:50, Giacomo Mulas wrote: Hello, I am experiencing a very strange behaviour on my Asus A6k Turion64 laptop running sid. It used to work ok with a custom-compiled (from the debian-packaged source) 2.6.12 kernel. When the debian-packaged source for 2.6.14 became available, I copied over my old .config, did a make oldconfig answering the relevant questions, built a new kernel without any errors, installed it. Then I experienced this weird situation: the system boots, loads the ramdisk, does its initial setup, mounts the root filesystem, switches root... all ok until it gets to starting udev. Then udev's hotplug kicks in and starts loading modules and... in an erratic, unpredictable way, it hangs while loading the usb hcd module, without any error message. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't and the boot procedure then goes smooth and the computer runs without a hitch thereafter. It does not happen at all with 2.6.12, therefore it must be something which changed between 2.6.12 and 2.6.14 (a shipload of things, unfortunately...). I was unable to relate the hangs to anything, they seem to be just random. The only thing which is reproducible is that the system always hangs (when it does) while loading the ehci_hcd module. I did not even file a bug report yet, since I don't quite understand whether this is a kernel or a udev issue.
Re: lockup at boot with kernel 2.6.14...
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005, Ed Tomlinson wrote: 2.6.14.2 is out - Note the fix list - the third one may help you.Its also worth making sure you have an up-to-date modutils package. Debian udev stresses modules loads If I understood what the changelog says, this patch has to do with atm and not with ehci_hcd. However, I can confirm that apparently a BIOS update solved my problem. Apparently the 2.6.14 kernel exposed a BIOS bug I was (happily) unaware of... Bye Giacomo -- _ Giacomo Mulas [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ OSSERVATORIO ASTRONOMICO DI CAGLIARI Str. 54, Loc. Poggio dei Pini * 09012 Capoterra (CA) Tel. (OAC): +39 070 71180 248 Fax : +39 070 71180 222 Tel. (UNICA): +39 070 675 4916 _ When the storms are raging around you, stay right where you are (Freddy Mercury) _ -- Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e' risultato non infetto. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lockup at boot with kernel 2.6.14...
Giacomo Mulas wrote: I found in the linux kernel mailing list a thread which almost exactly describes my same problem. The person reporting it solved it by a BIOS upgrade, which is going to be my next try. Of course, while I immediately found a BIOS image, this is not even a bootable disk image, it is supposed to be installed using a dedicated Winzozz utility. This is crazy. Can anybody help me upgrading the BIOS on my linux-only Asus A6K without having to install some sort of win XP on it??? I have an Asus motherboard (K8U-X, and it seems nobody else has this brand) and it has the EZ Flash feature in which you can update the bios by copying the image to a floppy and pressing a key (Alt-F2) during boot. Perhaps your motherboard has this feature too. -- I'd love to go out with you, but I'm doing door-to-door collecting for static cling. Eduardo M KALINOWSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://move.to/hpkb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lockup at boot with kernel 2.6.14...
Hello, I am experiencing a very strange behaviour on my Asus A6k Turion64 laptop running sid. It used to work ok with a custom-compiled (from the debian-packaged source) 2.6.12 kernel. When the debian-packaged source for 2.6.14 became available, I copied over my old .config, did a make oldconfig answering the relevant questions, built a new kernel without any errors, installed it. Then I experienced this weird situation: the system boots, loads the ramdisk, does its initial setup, mounts the root filesystem, switches root... all ok until it gets to starting udev. Then udev's hotplug kicks in and starts loading modules and... in an erratic, unpredictable way, it hangs while loading the usb hcd module, without any error message. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't and the boot procedure then goes smooth and the computer runs without a hitch thereafter. It does not happen at all with 2.6.12, therefore it must be something which changed between 2.6.12 and 2.6.14 (a shipload of things, unfortunately...). I was unable to relate the hangs to anything, they seem to be just random. The only thing which is reproducible is that the system always hangs (when it does) while loading the ehci_hcd module. I did not even file a bug report yet, since I don't quite understand whether this is a kernel or a udev issue. Any hints? Bye, Giacomo -- _ Giacomo Mulas [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ OSSERVATORIO ASTRONOMICO DI CAGLIARI Str. 54, Loc. Poggio dei Pini * 09012 Capoterra (CA) Tel. (OAC): +39 070 71180 248 Fax : +39 070 71180 222 Tel. (UNICA): +39 070 675 4916 _ When the storms are raging around you, stay right where you are (Freddy Mercury) _ -- Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e' risultato non infetto. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lockup at boot with kernel 2.6.14...
Hi, 2.6.14.2 should be out this weekend. The .1 fixes a security issue, .2 fixes bind (0 sized icmp packets) and several other bugs. Might be worth waiting. It also is worth trying to boot with apci disabled. Ed Tomlinson On Thursday 10 November 2005 06:50, Giacomo Mulas wrote: Hello, I am experiencing a very strange behaviour on my Asus A6k Turion64 laptop running sid. It used to work ok with a custom-compiled (from the debian-packaged source) 2.6.12 kernel. When the debian-packaged source for 2.6.14 became available, I copied over my old .config, did a make oldconfig answering the relevant questions, built a new kernel without any errors, installed it. Then I experienced this weird situation: the system boots, loads the ramdisk, does its initial setup, mounts the root filesystem, switches root... all ok until it gets to starting udev. Then udev's hotplug kicks in and starts loading modules and... in an erratic, unpredictable way, it hangs while loading the usb hcd module, without any error message. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't and the boot procedure then goes smooth and the computer runs without a hitch thereafter. It does not happen at all with 2.6.12, therefore it must be something which changed between 2.6.12 and 2.6.14 (a shipload of things, unfortunately...). I was unable to relate the hangs to anything, they seem to be just random. The only thing which is reproducible is that the system always hangs (when it does) while loading the ehci_hcd module. I did not even file a bug report yet, since I don't quite understand whether this is a kernel or a udev issue. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lockup at boot with kernel 2.6.14...
On 10 Nov 2005, Giacomo Mulas wrote: the ehci_hcd module. I did not even file a bug report yet, since I don't quite understand whether this is a kernel or a udev issue. Not much of a help maybe, but I'd try it without udev entirely. I recall people using udev had problems with a recent kernel version. It would be interesting to know if the problem happens at all without udev in the way. -- Mark Nippere-contacts: 832 Tanglewood Drive[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bryan, Texas 77802-4013 http://nipsy.bitgnome.net/ (979)575-3193 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. end random quote of the moment -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lockup at boot with kernel 2.6.14...
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Ed Tomlinson wrote: Might be worth waiting. It also is worth trying to boot with apci disabled. tried this already, no change. I will wait for the bugfix releases. bye Giacomo -- _ Giacomo Mulas [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ OSSERVATORIO ASTRONOMICO DI CAGLIARI Str. 54, Loc. Poggio dei Pini * 09012 Capoterra (CA) Tel. (OAC): +39 070 71180 248 Fax : +39 070 71180 222 Tel. (UNICA): +39 070 675 4916 _ When the storms are raging around you, stay right where you are (Freddy Mercury) _ -- Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e' risultato non infetto. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
