Re: mounting ntfs partitions?

2009-05-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 06:21:10PM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 how can I get read-write access as a normal user to a ntfs-partition?
 I trioed ntfsmount and pmount (with configured pmount.allow), but i found no 
 way to get write-access as a normal user. 
 
 What is the debian-way?

Why is this on debian-amd64?

Hamish
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Re: mounting ntfs partitions?

2009-05-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hamish Moffatt ham...@debian.org writes:

 On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 06:21:10PM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 how can I get read-write access as a normal user to a ntfs-partition?
 I trioed ntfsmount and pmount (with configured pmount.allow), but i found no 
 way to get write-access as a normal user. 
 
 What is the debian-way?

apt-get install ntfs-3g

 Why is this on debian-amd64?

 Hamish

Because it shouldn't.

MfG
 Goswin


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Re: mounting ntfs partitions?

2009-05-12 Thread Karthik Ramgopal
mount your partition as

mount -t ntfs-3g device mount point -rw

if you want automount add a line to /etc/fstab as

device   mount point  ntfs-3g  rw,user,auto   0 0

Users are generally not given mount with rw permissions for security
reasons.

Regards,
Karthik

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.dewrote:

 Hamish Moffatt ham...@debian.org writes:

  On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 06:21:10PM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  how can I get read-write access as a normal user to a ntfs-partition?
  I trioed ntfsmount and pmount (with configured pmount.allow), but i
 found no
  way to get write-access as a normal user.
 
  What is the debian-way?

 apt-get install ntfs-3g

  Why is this on debian-amd64?
 
  Hamish

 Because it shouldn't.

 MfG
 Goswin


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mounting ntfs partitions?

2009-05-11 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi all,

how can I get read-write access as a normal user to a ntfs-partition?
I trioed ntfsmount and pmount (with configured pmount.allow), but i found no 
way to get write-access as a normal user. 

What is the debian-way?

Thanks for help.

Hans



Re: mounting ntfs partitions?

2009-05-11 Thread Jochen Schulz
Hans-J. Ullrich:
 
 how can I get read-write access as a normal user to a ntfs-partition?
 I trioed ntfsmount and pmount (with configured pmount.allow), but i found no 
 way to get write-access as a normal user. 

The ntfs module in the kernel offers only very limited write access. It
is a feature constraint you have to live with.

 What is the debian-way?

Use ntfs-3g.

J.
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Re: mounting ntfs partitions?

2009-05-11 Thread hendrik
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 06:33:06PM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote:
 Hans-J. Ullrich:
  
  how can I get read-write access as a normal user to a ntfs-partition?
  I trioed ntfsmount and pmount (with configured pmount.allow), but i found 
  no 
  way to get write-access as a normal user. 
 
 The ntfs module in the kernel offers only very limited write access. It
 is a feature constraint you have to live with.

A few years ago I heard that this constraint was to prevent damage to 
the NTFS file system, which the develoers were not sure they fully 
understood yet (Microsoft secrets and such).  I thought that things had 
progessed since them.

- hendrik

 
  What is the debian-way?
 
 Use ntfs-3g.
 
 J.
 -- 
 I often play sports / do exercise.
 [Agree]   [Disagree]
  http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html



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Re: mounting ntfs partitions?

2009-05-11 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Montag 11 Mai 2009 schrieb hend...@topoi.pooq.com:
 On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 06:33:06PM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote:
  Hans-J. Ullrich:
   how can I get read-write access as a normal user to a ntfs-partition?
   I trioed ntfsmount and pmount (with configured pmount.allow), but i
   found no way to get write-access as a normal user.
 
  The ntfs module in the kernel offers only very limited write access. It
  is a feature constraint you have to live with.

 A few years ago I heard that this constraint was to prevent damage to
 the NTFS file system, which the develoers were not sure they fully
 understood yet (Microsoft secrets and such).  I thought that things had
 progessed since them.

 - hendrik

   What is the debian-way?
 
  Use ntfs-3g.
 
  J.
  --
  I often play sports / do exercise.
  [Agree]   [Disagree]
   http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html

Ah, yes, this does it explain. I know, that ntfs to set r-w is always 
dangerous, and as far as I know, the kerne-module sets the ntfs-partition to 
read-only.

In my case, there are no important datas on the partition, I use it for 
testing purposes or as a container to save files for a short time. I just 
wondered, that users are not allowed to mount partitions r-w (usb, vfat, 
external drives), but meanwhile I know more about debian and mount. I 
discovered pmount.

Thanks for help!

Regards

Hans


 



Re: mounting ntfs partitions?

2009-05-11 Thread Alexey Salmin
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 11:35 PM,  hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote:
 A few years ago I heard that this constraint was to prevent damage to
 the NTFS file system, which the develoers were not sure they fully
 understood yet (Microsoft secrets and such).  I thought that things had
 progessed since them.

 - hendrik


They did actually. But developers were modifying the ntfs-3g driver, not ntfs.
Since version 1.0 (February 21, 2007) it's stable and safe to use.

Alexey


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RE: mounting ntfs partitions?

2009-05-11 Thread Kushal Koolwal

Not sure if your problem is resolved or not but I had a similar issue a while 
back and I was able to resolve like this:
http://blogs.koolwal.net/2009/02/24/howto-mount-windows-ntfs-partition-as-read-write-in-debian-linux/

I think somebody already mentioned ntfs-3g.

Kushal Koolwal

I do blog at http://blogs.koolwal.net/


 From: hans.ullr...@loop.de
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 Subject: Re: mounting ntfs partitions?
 Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 19:32:56 +0200



 Am Montag 11 Mai 2009 schrieb hend...@topoi.pooq.com:

 On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 06:33:06PM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote:

 Hans-J. Ullrich:

 how can I get read-write access as a normal user to a ntfs-partition?

 I trioed ntfsmount and pmount (with configured pmount.allow), but i

 found no way to get write-access as a normal user.



 The ntfs module in the kernel offers only very limited write access. It

 is a feature constraint you have to live with.



 A few years ago I heard that this constraint was to prevent damage to

 the NTFS file system, which the develoers were not sure they fully

 understood yet (Microsoft secrets and such). I thought that things had

 progessed since them.



 - hendrik



 What is the debian-way?



 Use ntfs-3g.



 J.

 --

 I often play sports / do exercise.

 [Agree] [Disagree]





 Ah, yes, this does it explain. I know, that ntfs to set r-w is always 
 dangerous, and as far as I know, the kerne-module sets the ntfs-partition to 
 read-only.



 In my case, there are no important datas on the partition, I use it for 
 testing purposes or as a container to save files for a short time. I just 
 wondered, that users are not allowed to mount partitions r-w (usb, vfat, 
 external drives), but meanwhile I know more about debian and mount. I 
 discovered pmount.



 Thanks for help!



 Regards



 Hans







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Re: mounting ntfs partitions?

2009-05-11 Thread hendrik
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 01:47:49AM +0700, Alexey Salmin wrote:
 On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 11:35 PM,  hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote:
  A few years ago I heard that this constraint was to prevent damage to
  the NTFS file system, which the develoers were not sure they fully
  understood yet (Microsoft secrets and such).  I thought that things had
  progessed since them.
 
  - hendrik
 
 
 They did actually. But developers were modifying the ntfs-3g driver, not ntfs.
 Since version 1.0 (February 21, 2007) it's stable and safe to use.

That recociles both versions of the story.  Thanks.

- hendrik


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