Re: SATA drives not recognized on new install

2007-05-01 Thread Adam Stiles
On Monday 30 April 2007 19:29, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 01:14:10AM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote:
  Thanks to you and Storm66 for your replies.  I just burned and tried
  Ubuntu, Mepis, and Gentoo, and they all seemed to have no problems.  The
  working kernel for the debian install was a 2.6.20.
 
  Is the sarge image based on 2.6.20 as well?

You should be able to boot up with the Gentoo liveCD and use that to start the 
Debian installation manually -- from what I remember of my brief bout of 
infidelity, I don't think it needs the CD drive once it has booted.  (If it 
does, try the Ubuntu or Mepis CDs; both of which are Debian underneath).

Make sure your internet is working, though. Before the mid-install reboot, you 
will need to download and build an up-to-date kernel.  (Or you could cheat 
and just copy the kernel from the boot CD; but you'd do best to build your 
own as soon as possible afterward.)

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Re: SATA drives not recognized on new install

2007-05-01 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 05:27:44PM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote:
 Isn't it possible to create one on a usb drive, or from a mount point
 from which an ISO image can be generated?  I was thinking of trying to
 roll my own kernel, then replace the kernel in the current setup.
 
 Or is this being naive??

It is a bit tricky, and involves generating udebs with kernel-wedge, and
regenerating the debian-installer udebs based on that along with
updating the package lists on the cd.  I have done it, and it was a bit
of a pain, but not too bad.  Way way simpler than the old boot-floppies
system of 3.0 and earlier.

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[Solved] Re: SATA drives not recognized on new install

2007-05-01 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Sat, 2007-04-28 at 15:30 -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: 
 Hi,
 
 I just built an amd box with a 5600+ processor on an MSI K9A Platinum
 MB.  The latest (as of yesterday) netinst version of debian-amd64 was
 used to boot up the system.  I saw none of the BIOS features which were
 mentioned on the installation page as things which had to be disabled,
 ran the memory up to 800 Mhz, etc., etc.
 
 The boot process times out when trying to communicate with the SATA
 drives (I have 2 WD drives, both recognized by Windows when I installed
 that later).  The message given is along the lines of 
 
 ata.1: SATA drive failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error  errmask=0x104)
...

Ah!  What a delight!  I retried this whole thing using the etch
installer after seeing some information under a Google search for kernel
support for the SB600 south bridge.  (I was looking for help on setting
up my own kernel's config.)

Others have had similar problems as has been mentioned here, and a
suggested workaround in one case included the boot parameters
pci=nomsi irqpoll (which was a combo I had not tried).  Worked like a
charm for me as well.

Etch was installed, which I changed to Sid (being slightly unstable
myself :).  

I really appreciate the input I got from folks here.  I have other
questions, but those will come elsewhere.

Cheers,


Kenward
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Re: SATA drives not recognized on new install

2007-04-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 01:14:10AM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote:
 Thanks to you and Storm66 for your replies.  I just burned and tried
 Ubuntu, Mepis, and Gentoo, and they all seemed to have no problems.  The
 working kernel for the debian install was a 2.6.20.  
 
 Is the sarge image based on 2.6.20 as well?
 
 I'll check that link out too.

Sarge is 2.6.8, etch is 2.6.18.  http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ has a
2.6.12 based sarge image which has helped many people in the past with
installing sarge.  Perhaps someone will make a 2.6.20 based etch
installer similar to the sarge 2.6.12 installer to help out people who
just have to have the latest and greatest in hardware. :)  I did it
before for sarge, so who knows maybe at some point I will feel like
doing it again.

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Re: SATA drives not recognized on new install

2007-04-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 10:19:07AM +0200, michelcuppens wrote:
 I had the same problem with a MSI K9MM-V MoBo .I solved it by manually 
 partitioning it, ie by determining the sizes and names myself (not using the 
 proposed ones by the installer).
 Sata is treated as SCSI ,so the naming is sd(a...z)X

Well, not quite.  libata is treated as scsi and most sata drivers now
use libata.  Most PATA drivers are available as libata too in the recent
2.6 kernels.  Basicaly in the future all harddrives will appear as scsi
style disks.  2.4 had a number of SATA drivers that made /dev/hd*
devices, but they quickly got replaced by libata which was a much better
solution.

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Re: SATA drives not recognized on new install

2007-04-30 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 14:29 -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 01:14:10AM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote:
  Thanks to you and Storm66 for your replies.  I just burned and tried
  Ubuntu, Mepis, and Gentoo, and they all seemed to have no problems.  The
  working kernel for the debian install was a 2.6.20.  
  
  Is the sarge image based on 2.6.20 as well?
  
  I'll check that link out too.
 
 Sarge is 2.6.8, etch is 2.6.18.  http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ has a
 2.6.12 based sarge image which has helped many people in the past with
 installing sarge.  Perhaps someone will make a 2.6.20 based etch
 installer similar to the sarge 2.6.12 installer to help out people who
 just have to have the latest and greatest in hardware. :)  I did it
 before for sarge, so who knows maybe at some point I will feel like
 doing it again.
 
 --
 Len Sorensen

Isn't it possible to create one on a usb drive, or from a mount point
from which an ISO image can be generated?  I was thinking of trying to
roll my own kernel, then replace the kernel in the current setup.

Or is this being naive??



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Re: SATA drives not recognized on new install

2007-04-29 Thread michael
On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 15:30:55 -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote
 Is this likely a problem of not having the right support built into the
 installation disk, and if so how can I get around that?
 

I'm guessing your using the latest etch installer, which comes with a 2.6.18 
kernel. You might want to try a debian installer with a more recent kernel.
Perhaps something from here:

http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/

Perhaps there is a custom etch installer out somewhere with 2.6.20 ?

You could always install the sarge one from above and upgrade to etch 
afterwards.

hth,

Mike


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Re: SATA drives not recognized on new install

2007-04-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Le samedi 28 avril 2007 à 15:30 -0700, Kenward Vaughan a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 I just built an amd box with a 5600+ processor on an MSI K9A Platinum
 MB.  The latest (as of yesterday) netinst version of debian-amd64 was
 used to boot up the system.  I saw none of the BIOS features which were
 mentioned on the installation page as things which had to be disabled,
 ran the memory up to 800 Mhz, etc., etc.
 
Hello,

I had the same problem with another MB. The problem seems to be related
to the SB600 chip.
The only method I found to cope with is to use a kernel with the SATA
support totally disabled and putting the chip (BIOS) in Legacy IDE
mode if your BIOS has such an option.
I guess that the kernel  2.6.20 will work as some enhancements have
been done in the kernel related to the SB600 chip.

Another problem is that the SATA drives are not created whith /dev/hd...
names but with /dev/sd

If you can find an installer with a kernel  2.6.20 I think that you 
will have a full working system without any problem.

Regards

Storm66



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Re: SATA drives not recognized on new install

2007-04-29 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Sat, 2007-04-28 at 23:54 -0700, michael wrote:
 On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 15:30:55 -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote
  Is this likely a problem of not having the right support built into the
  installation disk, and if so how can I get around that?
  
 
 I'm guessing your using the latest etch installer, which comes with a 2.6.18 
 kernel. You might want to try a debian installer with a more recent kernel.
 Perhaps something from here:
 
 http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/
 
 Perhaps there is a custom etch installer out somewhere with 2.6.20 ?
 
 You could always install the sarge one from above and upgrade to etch 
 afterwards.
 
 hth,
 
 Mike

Thanks to you and Storm66 for your replies.  I just burned and tried
Ubuntu, Mepis, and Gentoo, and they all seemed to have no problems.  The
working kernel for the debian install was a 2.6.20.  

Is the sarge image based on 2.6.20 as well?

I'll check that link out too.



Kenward
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Re: SATA drives not recognized on new install

2007-04-29 Thread michelcuppens
Op zondag 29 april 2007 00:30, schreef Kenward Vaughan:
 Hi,

 I just built an amd box with a 5600+ processor on an MSI K9A Platinum
 MB.  The latest (as of yesterday) netinst version of debian-amd64 was
 used to boot up the system.  I saw none of the BIOS features which were
 mentioned on the installation page as things which had to be disabled,
 ran the memory up to 800 Mhz, etc., etc.

 The boot process times out when trying to communicate with the SATA
 drives (I have 2 WD drives, both recognized by Windows when I installed
 that later).  The message given is along the lines of

 ata.1: SATA drive failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error  errmask=0x104)

 Other lines earlier in the boot included

 SATA max udma/133 cmd 0xC200ED00 crt 0x0 bmda 0x0 irq 1277
   and
 SATA link SStatus 123 SControl 300

   (I have no clue whether these are helpful, though.)

 This happens for all 4 slots (with only 2 being populated, of course).
 I tried to get an idea of what people did with similar problems
 (amdforums), and tried a variety of boot options (noapic nolapic; noapic
 acpi=noirq|off ; etc.), none of which helped.

 One time I was able to shft-pgup and saw a line about a BIOS bug, along
 with the letters MCFG, but I couldn't catch it again at other times.
 Looking at dmesg later on following a normal boot showed no such line in
 the part of dmesg which had been saved.

 It appears that most if not all other HW is recognized, including the
 LAN.

 The K9A has the ATI RD580 north bridge chip and SB600 south bridge, and
 is a Crossfire board (which I don't care about).  The BIOS version is
 1.3 (Dec. '06).

 Is this likely a problem of not having the right support built into the
 installation disk, and if so how can I get around that?

 Can I build an amd64 kernel on my 32 bit kernel machine and somehow
 build a bootable disk off of that? (a flash drive perhaps?)


 Many thanks for any help!


 Kenward
 --
 With or without (religion) you would have good people doing good things
 and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil
 things, that takes religion.  --Physicist and Nobel Laureate Steven
 Weinberg


I had the same problem with a MSI K9MM-V MoBo .I solved it by manually 
partitioning it, ie by determining the sizes and names myself (not using the 
proposed ones by the installer).
Sata is treated as SCSI ,so the naming is sd(a...z)X

Hope it can help you.

Michel Cuppens


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SATA drives not recognized on new install

2007-04-28 Thread Kenward Vaughan
Hi,

I just built an amd box with a 5600+ processor on an MSI K9A Platinum
MB.  The latest (as of yesterday) netinst version of debian-amd64 was
used to boot up the system.  I saw none of the BIOS features which were
mentioned on the installation page as things which had to be disabled,
ran the memory up to 800 Mhz, etc., etc.

The boot process times out when trying to communicate with the SATA
drives (I have 2 WD drives, both recognized by Windows when I installed
that later).  The message given is along the lines of 

ata.1: SATA drive failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error  errmask=0x104)

Other lines earlier in the boot included 

SATA max udma/133 cmd 0xC200ED00 crt 0x0 bmda 0x0 irq 1277
and
SATA link SStatus 123 SControl 300

(I have no clue whether these are helpful, though.)

This happens for all 4 slots (with only 2 being populated, of course).
I tried to get an idea of what people did with similar problems
(amdforums), and tried a variety of boot options (noapic nolapic; noapic
acpi=noirq|off ; etc.), none of which helped. 

One time I was able to shft-pgup and saw a line about a BIOS bug, along
with the letters MCFG, but I couldn't catch it again at other times.
Looking at dmesg later on following a normal boot showed no such line in
the part of dmesg which had been saved.

It appears that most if not all other HW is recognized, including the
LAN.

The K9A has the ATI RD580 north bridge chip and SB600 south bridge, and
is a Crossfire board (which I don't care about).  The BIOS version is
1.3 (Dec. '06).

Is this likely a problem of not having the right support built into the
installation disk, and if so how can I get around that?

Can I build an amd64 kernel on my 32 bit kernel machine and somehow
build a bootable disk off of that? (a flash drive perhaps?)


Many thanks for any help!


Kenward
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and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil
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Re: new install

2007-04-23 Thread Olivier Ruysschaert
Koen

Op 16 juni is er klasbijeenkomst. Kan je komen.

Wil je ook bij je antwoord als je adresgegevens opgeven tel el GSM?

mvg

Olivier Ruysschaert


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Re: new install

2006-04-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes:

 On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 10:51:26PM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
 That really shouldn't matter. The RAID superblocks for all RAID levels
 contain a UUID for a reason.
 
 With
  DEVICE partitions
 in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf, mdadm will check /proc/partitions for all
 partitions and scan each for your raid disks.
 
 [Not sure how to make mkinitramfs do this, though.]

 The problem I get is that on some boots I get:

 piix: sdc, sdd
 /dev/md0 = /dev/sda1+/dev/sdb1 (boot)
 /dev/md1 = /dev/sda2+/dev/sdb2 (root)
 /dev/md2 = /dev/sda3+/dev/sdb3 (lvm first PV)

 promise: sda, sdb
 /dev/md3 = /dev/sdc1+/dev/sdd1 (lvm second PV)

 and on others I get:

 promise: sda, sdb
 /dev/md0 = /dev/sda1+/dev/sdb1 (lvm second PV)

 piix: sdc, sdd
 /dev/md1 = /dev/sdc1+/dev/sdd1 (boot)
 /dev/md2 = /dev/sdc2+/dev/sdd2 (root)
 /dev/md3 = /dev/sdc3+/dev/sdd3 (lvm first PV)

 So now, do I pass root=/dev/md1 or root=/dev/md2?  Seems 50% of the time
 it is one, and 50% of the time the other.  Bloody pain really.

 I tried passing root=LABEL=ROOT but for some reason, at least with
 2.6.15, /dev/disk/ needed to access by label doesn't exist so at
 least with the way initramfs-tools makes the initrd, it can't find root
 that way.

 So my raid componets always start up just fine, the problem is knowing
 which raid md device is the right one to mount as root.

 Len Sorensen

Check your initramfs. I guess that one screws it up, probably together
with udev.

MfG
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Re: new install

2006-04-20 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 10:51:26PM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
 That really shouldn't matter. The RAID superblocks for all RAID levels
 contain a UUID for a reason.
 
 With
   DEVICE partitions
 in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf, mdadm will check /proc/partitions for all
 partitions and scan each for your raid disks.
 
 [Not sure how to make mkinitramfs do this, though.]

The problem I get is that on some boots I get:

piix: sdc, sdd
/dev/md0 = /dev/sda1+/dev/sdb1 (boot)
/dev/md1 = /dev/sda2+/dev/sdb2 (root)
/dev/md2 = /dev/sda3+/dev/sdb3 (lvm first PV)

promise: sda, sdb
/dev/md3 = /dev/sdc1+/dev/sdd1 (lvm second PV)

and on others I get:

promise: sda, sdb
/dev/md0 = /dev/sda1+/dev/sdb1 (lvm second PV)

piix: sdc, sdd
/dev/md1 = /dev/sdc1+/dev/sdd1 (boot)
/dev/md2 = /dev/sdc2+/dev/sdd2 (root)
/dev/md3 = /dev/sdc3+/dev/sdd3 (lvm first PV)

So now, do I pass root=/dev/md1 or root=/dev/md2?  Seems 50% of the time
it is one, and 50% of the time the other.  Bloody pain really.

I tried passing root=LABEL=ROOT but for some reason, at least with
2.6.15, /dev/disk/ needed to access by label doesn't exist so at
least with the way initramfs-tools makes the initrd, it can't find root
that way.

So my raid componets always start up just fine, the problem is knowing
which raid md device is the right one to mount as root.

Len Sorensen


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Re: new install

2006-04-19 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 09:56:08AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:

 Of course if your raid consists of drives from all of them, it probably
 won't be a problem.  My problem is I have a raid1 on each controller,
 and the order of my raid devices gets rearranged when the controllers
 load in reverse order.

That really shouldn't matter. The RAID superblocks for all RAID levels
contain a UUID for a reason.

With
DEVICE partitions
in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf, mdadm will check /proc/partitions for all
partitions and scan each for your raid disks.

[Not sure how to make mkinitramfs do this, though.]


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new install

2006-04-18 Thread Koen Tavernier

Hi,

I'm going to perform a new install on an Asus motherboard with the 
following sata controllers:


:00:08.0 RAID bus controller: Promise Technology, Inc. PDC20378 
(FastTrak 378/SATA 378) (rev 02)
:00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA 
RAID Controller (rev 80)


I have 4 250GB SATA drives which I would like to use in (software) RAID5 
with LVM on top.


I would love to use one of the newer kernels (2.6.15) but earlier 
comments from Lennart Sorensen about sata drives not always being 
recognised in the same order with this particular kernel has frightend 
me a bit. Does this mean that the raid won't assemble properly and I 
won't be able to boot?


On that note, is it better to still have a small unraided /boot 
partition to help grub rather than put everything on RAID5?


Thanks in advance,

Koen.



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Re: new install

2006-04-18 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 02:24:43PM +0100, Koen Tavernier wrote:
 I'm going to perform a new install on an Asus motherboard with the 
 following sata controllers:
 
 :00:08.0 RAID bus controller: Promise Technology, Inc. PDC20378 
 (FastTrak 378/SATA 378) (rev 02)
 :00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA 
 RAID Controller (rev 80)
 
 I have 4 250GB SATA drives which I would like to use in (software) RAID5 
 with LVM on top.
 
 I would love to use one of the newer kernels (2.6.15) but earlier 
 comments from Lennart Sorensen about sata drives not always being 
 recognised in the same order with this particular kernel has frightend 
 me a bit. Does this mean that the raid won't assemble properly and I 
 won't be able to boot?

Right now, the system which I have with an intel and a promise sata
controller manages to boot 50% of the time.  If it fails, I reboot and
it usually works.  It really seems to decide to load the sata drivers
randomly (or more like it loads them both at the same time, and
sometimes one finishes loading first, sometimes the other).
initramfs-tools really needs somewhere I can specify to load certain
modules first before letting udev at things.  I haven't found such a
place yet, although I haven't looked very hard either.

Of course if your raid consists of drives from all of them, it probably
won't be a problem.  My problem is I have a raid1 on each controller,
and the order of my raid devices gets rearranged when the controllers
load in reverse order.  raid5 should probably figure it out just fine no
matter what order they are in.

 On that note, is it better to still have a small unraided /boot 
 partition to help grub rather than put everything on RAID5?

grub can NOT read raid5.  Only raid1.  So  you don't have a choice.  A
small raid1 partition is nice to have for grub.

Len Sorensen


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Re: New install - no sound

2005-12-14 Thread Philippe Arnone
Russ Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit :
 Thank you both for your helpful suggestions.  Now that sound is working,
 I can turn to other problems - like whether to install a 32-bit chroot for
 programs like Mplayer, Mozilla with Java support, etc.

If you want to get a 64 bit mplayer version, you can add the following
line to your source.list

deb http://spello.sscnet.ucla.edu/marillat/ sid main

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Re: New install - no sound

2005-12-13 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 07:01:35PM -0600, Russ Cook wrote:
 I believe I have.  As a user, I am a member of the audio group.  I can 
 run alsamixer as normal user.  Still no sound.  I visited this web site 
 for hints -
 http://xtronics.com/reference/Debian-sound.html and looked at the list of
 packages it recommended installing.  I noticed that I can't install 
 alsa-modules because it isn't available.  I am running testing - does 
 that have
 any bearing on my problem?

You only need alsa-modules for 2.4 kernels.  2.6 kernels have alsa
drivers already included.

Do you have your card listed in /proc/asound/cards?

What sound chip is it?  If it is an i8x0 ac97 chip, then try plugging
the speakers into the mic jack or other jacks and see if it helps, or
turn up the headphone volume.  If any of that works, you need to go find
out which ac97_quirk option you have to pass to the driver for your
hardware.

Len Sorensen


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Re: New install - no sound

2005-12-13 Thread Matthew A. Nicholson

Use gstreamer-properties to make gstreamer use alsa.

Russ Cook wrote:
Partial success.  After installing the programs I could find from the 
referenced list, XMMS now works.  Rythmbox 0.8.8 still fails with the 
error message

'Could not create audio output element; check your setting'.

Russ Cook wrote:

I believe I have.  As a user, I am a member of the audio group.  I can 
run alsamixer as normal user.  Still no sound.  I visited this web 
site for hints -

http://xtronics.com/reference/Debian-sound.html and looked at the list of
packages it recommended installing.  I noticed that I can't install 
alsa-modules because it isn't available.  I am running testing - does 
that have

any bearing on my problem?

Matthew A. Nicholson wrote:

You didn't follow my directions...  First make sure you are part of 
the audio group, you generally should just be root.


adduser mynamehere audio

Then run alsamixer as that user and make sure the sound is at a 
resonable level.  If it works as root then it should work as user if 
you have the right permissions.  You should not need to manually run 
esd.


Russ Cook wrote:


Udev was already installed - I confirmed with Aptitude.  Executing
the command 'modprobe snd_intel8x0' made no difference.  When I 
click on volume control under the sound and Video menu item of 
Gnome, I get the

error message No volume control elements and/or devices found.  When
I try to play a file using Rythmbox 0.8.8, I get the message Could 
not create
audio output element; check your settings.When I clicked on the 
volume

monitor under the Sound and Video menu item of Gnome, I get the
error message Cannot connect to sound daemon.  Please run 'esd' at a
command prompt.  From a terminal as root, I execute esd, and get a
momentary tone sequence.  I then tried again to play a file under
Rythmbox, and get the same error message Could not create audio output
element; check your settings.  This certainly appears to be a 
configuration
issue, but I don't know what the problem is or how to fix it.  As 
always, any

help or pointers to references would be greatly appreciated.











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Re: New install - no sound

2005-12-13 Thread Russ Cook

Len,
 In /proc/asound I have a symlink CK804 which links to a directory card0.
In card0 I have a file named intel8x0 and a directory named codec97#0.
There also other files and directories.
Connecting to other audio jacks does not appear to help.

Lennart Sorensen wrote:


On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 07:01:35PM -0600, Russ Cook wrote:
 

I believe I have.  As a user, I am a member of the audio group.  I can 
run alsamixer as normal user.  Still no sound.  I visited this web site 
for hints -

http://xtronics.com/reference/Debian-sound.html and looked at the list of
packages it recommended installing.  I noticed that I can't install 
alsa-modules because it isn't available.  I am running testing - does 
that have

any bearing on my problem?
   



You only need alsa-modules for 2.4 kernels.  2.6 kernels have alsa
drivers already included.

Do you have your card listed in /proc/asound/cards?

What sound chip is it?  If it is an i8x0 ac97 chip, then try plugging
the speakers into the mic jack or other jacks and see if it helps, or
turn up the headphone volume.  If any of that works, you need to go find
out which ac97_quirk option you have to pass to the driver for your
hardware.

Len Sorensen


 




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Re: New install - no sound

2005-12-13 Thread Russ Cook
Oops.  I reran alsaconf.  That killed a process that was running (I 
don't know

what it was).  Afterwards, both XMMS and Rythmbox are functional now.
Thank you both for your helpful suggestions.  Now that sound is working,
I can turn to other problems - like whether to install a 32-bit chroot for
programs like Mplayer, Mozilla with Java support, etc.

Thanks again.  I really appreciate your help.

Regards,
 Russ
Russ Cook wrote:


Len,
 In /proc/asound I have a symlink CK804 which links to a directory card0.
In card0 I have a file named intel8x0 and a directory named codec97#0.
There also other files and directories.
Connecting to other audio jacks does not appear to help.

Lennart Sorensen wrote:


On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 07:01:35PM -0600, Russ Cook wrote:
 

I believe I have.  As a user, I am a member of the audio group.  I 
can run alsamixer as normal user.  Still no sound.  I visited this 
web site for hints -
http://xtronics.com/reference/Debian-sound.html and looked at the 
list of
packages it recommended installing.  I noticed that I can't install 
alsa-modules because it isn't available.  I am running testing - 
does that have

any bearing on my problem?
  



You only need alsa-modules for 2.4 kernels.  2.6 kernels have alsa
drivers already included.

Do you have your card listed in /proc/asound/cards?

What sound chip is it?  If it is an i8x0 ac97 chip, then try plugging
the speakers into the mic jack or other jacks and see if it helps, or
turn up the headphone volume.  If any of that works, you need to go find
out which ac97_quirk option you have to pass to the driver for your
hardware.

Len Sorensen


 







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Re: New install - no sound

2005-12-13 Thread Matthew A. Nicholson
Kernels 2.6.12 enable something called dmix by default if your soundcard 
does not support multiple channels.  This would allow rhythmbox and xmms 
to play sounds at the same time without esd/alsa/your sound server.


This is a very cool feature that I sorely missed for a long time.

Russ Cook wrote:
Oops.  I reran alsaconf.  That killed a process that was running (I 
don't know

what it was).  Afterwards, both XMMS and Rythmbox are functional now.
Thank you both for your helpful suggestions.  Now that sound is working,
I can turn to other problems - like whether to install a 32-bit chroot for
programs like Mplayer, Mozilla with Java support, etc.

Thanks again.  I really appreciate your help.

Regards,
 Russ
Russ Cook wrote:


Len,
 In /proc/asound I have a symlink CK804 which links to a directory card0.
In card0 I have a file named intel8x0 and a directory named codec97#0.
There also other files and directories.
Connecting to other audio jacks does not appear to help.

Lennart Sorensen wrote:


On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 07:01:35PM -0600, Russ Cook wrote:
 

I believe I have.  As a user, I am a member of the audio group.  I 
can run alsamixer as normal user.  Still no sound.  I visited this 
web site for hints -
http://xtronics.com/reference/Debian-sound.html and looked at the 
list of
packages it recommended installing.  I noticed that I can't install 
alsa-modules because it isn't available.  I am running testing - 
does that have

any bearing on my problem?
  




You only need alsa-modules for 2.4 kernels.  2.6 kernels have alsa
drivers already included.

Do you have your card listed in /proc/asound/cards?

What sound chip is it?  If it is an i8x0 ac97 chip, then try plugging
the speakers into the mic jack or other jacks and see if it helps, or
turn up the headphone volume.  If any of that works, you need to go find
out which ac97_quirk option you have to pass to the driver for your
hardware.

Len Sorensen


 






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Re: New install - no sound

2005-12-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 08:53:09AM -0200, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
 Russ Cook wrote:
 
  I have an ASUS A8N32 SLI Deluxe motherboard with an AMD4800 dual core
  processor.  I believe the audio is Realtek ALC850.  I performed a
  clean install from unstable from
  http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ testing main.  My
  system is up and running, and I have been performing apt-get update
  and upgrade periodically.  My kernel is
  vmlinuz-2.6.12-1-amd64-k8-smp.  My problem is that I don't have any
  sound from the system.  Attached is the output from 'lsmod'.  The
  utility 'Discover' is installed.  Can anyone offer some pointers?
 
 This will seem weird, but try plugging your speakers in another jack -
 the microphone or the line out one. I have a similar board, and sound is
 output through the microphone jack, not the speaker jack. I still don't
 know why.

Because intel and others @[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the AC97 standard.  The
snd-intel8x0 driver has a quirks option that allows for rearanging that
stupidity back to normal.

parm:   ac97_quirk:AC'97 workaround for strange hardware. (array of 
charp)

You might have to look at pci/ac97/ac97_codec.c for a list of valid
quirk options.  For a realtek ALC chip the option ac97_quirk=alc_jack
might be useful (it appears to enable the auto jack select feature of
those chips).  There are also quirks for swapping master/headphone
volume controls which seems to be needed on some systems.  AC97 is a
real mess.

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Re: New install - no sound

2005-12-12 Thread Russ Cook
I believe I have.  As a user, I am a member of the audio group.  I can 
run alsamixer as normal user.  Still no sound.  I visited this web site 
for hints -

http://xtronics.com/reference/Debian-sound.html and looked at the list of
packages it recommended installing.  I noticed that I can't install 
alsa-modules because it isn't available.  I am running testing - does 
that have

any bearing on my problem?

Matthew A. Nicholson wrote:

You didn't follow my directions...  First make sure you are part of 
the audio group, you generally should just be root.


adduser mynamehere audio

Then run alsamixer as that user and make sure the sound is at a 
resonable level.  If it works as root then it should work as user if 
you have the right permissions.  You should not need to manually run esd.


Russ Cook wrote:


Udev was already installed - I confirmed with Aptitude.  Executing
the command 'modprobe snd_intel8x0' made no difference.  When I click 
on volume control under the sound and Video menu item of Gnome, I get 
the

error message No volume control elements and/or devices found.  When
I try to play a file using Rythmbox 0.8.8, I get the message Could 
not create
audio output element; check your settings.When I clicked on the 
volume

monitor under the Sound and Video menu item of Gnome, I get the
error message Cannot connect to sound daemon.  Please run 'esd' at a
command prompt.  From a terminal as root, I execute esd, and get a
momentary tone sequence.  I then tried again to play a file under
Rythmbox, and get the same error message Could not create audio output
element; check your settings.  This certainly appears to be a 
configuration
issue, but I don't know what the problem is or how to fix it.  As 
always, any

help or pointers to references would be greatly appreciated.







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Re: New install - no sound

2005-12-12 Thread Russ Cook
Partial success.  After installing the programs I could find from the 
referenced list, XMMS now works.  Rythmbox 0.8.8 still fails with the 
error message

'Could not create audio output element; check your setting'.

Russ Cook wrote:

I believe I have.  As a user, I am a member of the audio group.  I can 
run alsamixer as normal user.  Still no sound.  I visited this web 
site for hints -

http://xtronics.com/reference/Debian-sound.html and looked at the list of
packages it recommended installing.  I noticed that I can't install 
alsa-modules because it isn't available.  I am running testing - does 
that have

any bearing on my problem?

Matthew A. Nicholson wrote:

You didn't follow my directions...  First make sure you are part of 
the audio group, you generally should just be root.


adduser mynamehere audio

Then run alsamixer as that user and make sure the sound is at a 
resonable level.  If it works as root then it should work as user if 
you have the right permissions.  You should not need to manually run 
esd.


Russ Cook wrote:


Udev was already installed - I confirmed with Aptitude.  Executing
the command 'modprobe snd_intel8x0' made no difference.  When I 
click on volume control under the sound and Video menu item of 
Gnome, I get the

error message No volume control elements and/or devices found.  When
I try to play a file using Rythmbox 0.8.8, I get the message Could 
not create
audio output element; check your settings.When I clicked on the 
volume

monitor under the Sound and Video menu item of Gnome, I get the
error message Cannot connect to sound daemon.  Please run 'esd' at a
command prompt.  From a terminal as root, I execute esd, and get a
momentary tone sequence.  I then tried again to play a file under
Rythmbox, and get the same error message Could not create audio output
element; check your settings.  This certainly appears to be a 
configuration
issue, but I don't know what the problem is or how to fix it.  As 
always, any

help or pointers to references would be greatly appreciated.











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Re: New install - no sound

2005-12-11 Thread Russ Cook

Udev was already installed - I confirmed with Aptitude.  Executing
the command 'modprobe snd_intel8x0' made no difference.  When I click on 
volume control under the sound and Video menu item of Gnome, I get the

error message No volume control elements and/or devices found.  When
I try to play a file using Rythmbox 0.8.8, I get the message Could not 
create
audio output element; check your settings.When I clicked on the 
volume

monitor under the Sound and Video menu item of Gnome, I get the
error message Cannot connect to sound daemon.  Please run 'esd' at a
command prompt.  From a terminal as root, I execute esd, and get a
momentary tone sequence.  I then tried again to play a file under
Rythmbox, and get the same error message Could not create audio output
element; check your settings.  This certainly appears to be a configuration
issue, but I don't know what the problem is or how to fix it.  As 
always, any

help or pointers to references would be greatly appreciated.


Matthew A. Nicholson wrote:

Install udev, modprobe snd_intel8x0, use alsamixer to adjust your 
volume, enjoy your sound.  Simple.  :)


Russ Cook wrote:

Thanks much for the reply.  I did NOT have the alsa-utils installed.  
I thought I had, and that the system was configured.  I have now 
installed alsa-utils, alsa-base, and alsa-oss, and run alsaconf.  My 
modules and /dev do not match yours.  You can tell by now that I am 
not expert at this.  I will compile my own kernel once I get 
everything up and running, so I have a fall-back in case I 
incorrectly set some options for the custom kernel.


Any further pointers would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks again.
   Russ







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Re: New install - no sound

2005-12-11 Thread Matthew A. Nicholson
You didn't follow my directions...  First make sure you are part of the 
audio group, you generally should just be root.


adduser mynamehere audio

Then run alsamixer as that user and make sure the sound is at a 
resonable level.  If it works as root then it should work as user if you 
have the right permissions.  You should not need to manually run esd.


Russ Cook wrote:

Udev was already installed - I confirmed with Aptitude.  Executing
the command 'modprobe snd_intel8x0' made no difference.  When I click on 
volume control under the sound and Video menu item of Gnome, I get the

error message No volume control elements and/or devices found.  When
I try to play a file using Rythmbox 0.8.8, I get the message Could not 
create
audio output element; check your settings.When I clicked on the 
volume

monitor under the Sound and Video menu item of Gnome, I get the
error message Cannot connect to sound daemon.  Please run 'esd' at a
command prompt.  From a terminal as root, I execute esd, and get a
momentary tone sequence.  I then tried again to play a file under
Rythmbox, and get the same error message Could not create audio output
element; check your settings.  This certainly appears to be a 
configuration
issue, but I don't know what the problem is or how to fix it.  As 
always, any

help or pointers to references would be greatly appreciated.



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New install - no sound

2005-12-10 Thread Russ Cook
I have an ASUS A8N32 SLI Deluxe motherboard with an AMD4800 dual core 
processor.  I believe the audio is Realtek ALC850.  I performed a clean 
install from unstable from 
http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ testing main.  My 
system is up and running, and I have been performing apt-get update and 
upgrade periodically.  My kernel is vmlinuz-2.6.12-1-amd64-k8-smp.  My 
problem is that I don't have any sound from the system.  Attached is the 
output from 'lsmod'.  The utility 'Discover' is installed.  Can anyone 
offer some pointers?


Thanks much,
 Russ
Module  Size  Used by
md5 6720  1 
ipv6  290144  10 
thermal17228  0 
fan 7304  0 
button  9824  0 
processor  26728  1 thermal
ac  7624  0 
battery12680  0 
af_packet  29964  2 
ide_scsi   21380  0 
sd_mod 22016  0 
sr_mod 20708  0 
sbp2   28040  0 
eth139423888  0 
usb_storage80192  0 
joydev 13568  0 
snd_mpu401 10248  0 
evdev  13120  0 
snd_intel8x0   38784  0 
snd_mpu401_uart10880  1 snd_mpu401
snd_ac97_codec 91588  1 snd_intel8x0
snd_rawmidi31776  1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device 11920  1 snd_rawmidi
snd_pcm   106632  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec
sata_nv12676  0 
i2c_nforce210048  0 
snd_timer  29256  1 snd_pcm
ide_cd 46112  0 
snd64800  8 
snd_mpu401,snd_intel8x0,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_ac97_codec,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm,snd_timer
libata 53128  1 sata_nv
ehci_hcd   37704  0 
i2c_core   26688  1 i2c_nforce2
psmouse31748  0 
cdrom  41848  2 sr_mod,ide_cd
ohci1394   38156  0 
ieee1394  372152  3 sbp2,eth1394,ohci1394
parport_pc 41584  0 
scsi_mod  156280  6 ide_scsi,sd_mod,sr_mod,sbp2,usb_storage,libata
snd_page_alloc 13832  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
forcedeth  23168  0 
analog 13856  0 
ohci_hcd   24644  0 
soundcore  13600  1 snd
serio_raw  10372  0 
pcspkr  6296  0 
parport44044  1 parport_pc
gameport   19912  1 analog
floppy 70056  0 
rtc17160  0 
ext3  142352  5 
jbd66480  1 ext3
mbcache13768  1 ext3
ide_disk   20224  7 
ide_generic 3584  0 [permanent]
via82cxxx  15728  0 [permanent]
trm290  6916  0 [permanent]
triflex 6464  0 [permanent]
slc90e668576  0 [permanent]
sis551316980  0 [permanent]
siimage14720  0 [permanent]
serverworks11280  0 [permanent]
sc1200 10176  0 [permanent]
rz1000  5120  0 [permanent]
piix   14020  0 [permanent]
pdc202xx_old   14080  0 [permanent]
opti621 7236  0 [permanent]
ns87415 6892  0 [permanent]
hpt366 22400  0 [permanent]
hpt34x  7808  0 [permanent]
generic 7168  0 [permanent]
cy82c6937240  0 [permanent]
cs5530  8512  0 [permanent]
cs5520  7424  0 [permanent]
cmd64x 14344  0 [permanent]
atiixp  8720  0 [permanent]
amd74xx17200  0 [permanent]
alim15x3   14492  0 [permanent]
aec62xx10368  0 [permanent]
pdc202xx_new   12160  0 [permanent]
ide_core  149688  30 
ide_scsi,usb_storage,ide_cd,ide_disk,ide_generic,via82cxxx,trm290,triflex,slc90e66,sis5513,siimage,serverworks,sc1200,rz1000,piix,pdc202xx_old,opti621,ns87415,hpt366,hpt34x,generic,cy82c693,cs5530,cs5520,cmd64x,atiixp,amd74xx,alim15x3,aec62xx,pdc202xx_new
unix   37016  385 
fbcon  41088  0 
tileblit4800  1 fbcon
font   10880  1 fbcon
bitblit 8128  1 fbcon
vesafb 11240  0 
cfbcopyarea 6144  1 vesafb
cfbimgblt   5056  1 vesafb
cfbfillrect 6784  1 vesafb
softcursor  4736  1 vesafb


Re: New install - no sound

2005-12-10 Thread Russ Cook
Thanks much for the reply.  I did NOT have the alsa-utils installed.  I 
thought I had, and that the system was configured.  I have now installed 
alsa-utils, alsa-base, and alsa-oss, and run alsaconf.  My modules and 
/dev do not match yours.  You can tell by now that I am not expert at 
this.  I will compile my own kernel once I get everything up and 
running, so I have a fall-back in case I incorrectly set some options 
for the custom kernel.


Any further pointers would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks again.
   Russ

Michael Langley wrote:


On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 17:11:23 -0600
Russ Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

I have an ASUS A8N32 SLI Deluxe motherboard with an AMD4800 dual core 
processor.  I believe the audio is Realtek ALC850.  I performed a clean 
install from unstable from 
http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ testing main.  My 
system is up and running, and I have been performing apt-get update and 
upgrade periodically.  My kernel is vmlinuz-2.6.12-1-amd64-k8-smp.  My 
problem is that I don't have any sound from the system.  Attached is the 
output from 'lsmod'.  The utility 'Discover' is installed.  Can anyone 
offer some pointers?


Thanks much,
 Russ

   



I'm assuming you have alsaconf, alsamixer and alsactl installed (alsa-utils) 
and the proper devices in /dev to use your hardware.  You might also want to 
install alsa-oss and alsa-base.

I also have Realtek onboard audio with the ALC850 chip.  I always build my own 
kernel and the latest version of alsa.  I have alsa 1.0.10 installed with 
kernel 2.6.14.3 that I built myself.

Below is the modules I am using for alsa.

snd_seq_oss38436  0 
snd_seq_midi   10240  0 
snd_rawmidi30752  1 snd_seq_midi

snd_seq_midi_event  9152  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq61400  5 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device 10192  4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd_intel8x0   37096  0 
snd_ac97_codec108220  1 snd_intel8x0

snd_ac97_bus2880  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm_oss58400  0 
snd_mixer_oss  19584  1 snd_pcm_oss

snd_pcm   104012  3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer  28040  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd68096  10 
snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
snd_page_alloc 12112  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
soundcore  12320  1 snd


This is what my /dev looks like.

0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   5 Nov 25 21:17 /dev/adsp - adsp0
0 crw-rw 1 root audio 14, 12 Nov 25 21:17 /dev/adsp0
0 crw-rw 1 root audio 14, 28 Nov 25 21:17 /dev/adsp1
0 crw-rw 1 root audio 14, 44 Nov 25 21:17 /dev/adsp2
0 crw-rw 1 root audio 14, 60 Nov 25 21:17 /dev/adsp3
0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   4 Nov 25 21:17 /dev/dsp - dsp0
0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root audio 14,  3 Nov 25 21:17 /dev/dsp0
0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root audio 14, 19 Nov 25 21:17 /dev/dsp1
0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root audio 14, 35 Nov 25 21:17 /dev/dsp2
0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root audio 14, 51 Nov 25 21:17 /dev/dsp3


You might try running alsaconf to detect your card or alsamixer to make sure 
your levels aren't all the way down.  Other than that I don't know what to tell 
you.  But the ALC850 chip definitely works with alsa.


From alsamixer:


Card: ALi M5455
Chip: Realtek ALC850 rev 0


 



snd_intel8x0   38784  0 
snd_ac97_codec 91588  1 snd_intel8x0
snd_pcm_oss59360  0 
snd_mixer_oss  21120  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm   106632  3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer  29256  1 snd_pcm
snd64800  6 
snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore  13600  1 snd
snd_page_alloc 13832  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
crw-rw  1 root audio 14, 12 2005-12-10 18:41 /dev/adsp
crw-rw  1 root audio 14,  4 2005-12-10 18:41 /dev/audio
crw-rw  1 root audio 14, 3 2005-12-10 18:41 /dev/dsp


New Install works great! My experience.

2005-09-21 Thread Mike Dobbs
I spend a lot of time trying to figure out if I should try 64bit.  For
those of you searching.  I installed amd64 stable and upgraded to
unstable.  Everything works great!  Good job to the AMD64 team!

The only snag I hit was udev.  udev wanted 2.6.12 or higher, though it
didn't show up as a dependency.  However I didn't have that, and didn't
know until half gnome was installed.  Not sure if there was a better
way, but I just removed udev and all the broken packages it brought with
it.  Then put on the new 2.6.12 kernel and viola!

the latest mkisofs also caused a seg fault.  I moved to the version just
prior to that and works fine.

Epiphany works fine.  Evolution, well I'm using it now.

totem gstreamer plays mp3s, mpegs, dvd no prob.

rt2500 works great.

nforce4 and 6600gt work great.  Nvidia driver install was a snap (built
using deb packages)

now I just need to get ut2004 working.

MD


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Re: complete new install

2005-03-17 Thread Alexander
Am Freitag, den 18.03.2005, 08:10 +0100 schrieb Uwe:

 2) I have trouble getting that cool'n'quiet thing running. As the 
 powernow-daemon relies on the /sys-filesystem i suggest defaulting it in the 
 kernel-images. I installed the sysfsutils package but can't get 
 the /sys-filesystem working. Especially the cpu-freq part is not available. 
 the sysfsutils-daemon fires up, but powernow doesn't.

Hi
for powernowd you have to load the module powernow_k8.
I have loaded the module cpufrq_powersave too.
And it works fine.

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Re: complete new install

2005-03-17 Thread Uwe
On Thursday 17 March 2005 09:17, Alexander wrote:
 Am Freitag, den 18.03.2005, 08:10 +0100 schrieb Uwe:
  2) I have trouble getting that cool'n'quiet thing running. As the
  powernow-daemon relies on the /sys-filesystem i suggest defaulting it in
  the kernel-images. I installed the sysfsutils package but can't get
  the /sys-filesystem working. Especially the cpu-freq part is not
  available. the sysfsutils-daemon fires up, but powernow doesn't.

 Hi
 for powernowd you have to load the module powernow_k8.
 I have loaded the module cpufrq_powersave too.
 And it works fine.

yes, that's it. thanks.

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complete new install

2005-03-16 Thread Uwe
Hi there,

I'm new to this list and first of all want to thank everybody involved in the 
development of the AMD64 port. I upgraded my personal server from a double 
PII to a small Athlon64 system. First of all I'd like to suggest adding a new 
mainboard to the compatibility list. Attached you can find the necessary 
info. I tested everything but the sound an the SATA part with success.

After installation out of the box via netinst-image I have some questions:

1) data-transfer from disk to disk seems to be very slo and cpu conduming. 
copying huge files from USB-disk to IDE-disk ist very very slow with a load 
of nearly 90%. It seems to be independent from the filesystemtype - it's the 
same for FAT32 and NTFS sources.

2) I have trouble getting that cool'n'quiet thing running. As the 
powernow-daemon relies on the /sys-filesystem i suggest defaulting it in the 
kernel-images. I installed the sysfsutils package but can't get 
the /sys-filesystem working. Especially the cpu-freq part is not available. 
the sysfsutils-daemon fires up, but powernow doesn't.

ANY SUGGESTIONS?

Greetings
Uwe

PS: Whenever you try to use a harddrive previously used in a Sun with a 
sundisklabel ERASE it completely. The netinst shows a very strange behaviour 
until you entirely scrubb your harddisk. I used the IBM Drive Fitness Test 
and did a complete erase...
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# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/hda1   /   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0   1
/dev/hdc1   /datatwoext3defaults0   2
/dev/hda2   noneswapsw  0   0
#/dev/hdb/media/cdrom0   iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0   0
sysfs /sys sysfs defaults 0 0
#/dev/pktcdvd/0 /mnt/dvdram udf noauto,noatime,rw,users 0 0
/dev/hdb /mnt/dvdram udf noauto,noatime,rw,users 0 0
Bootdata ok (command line is root=/dev/hda1 ro )
Linux version 2.6.10-16032hz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc-Version 3.3.5 (Debian 
1:3.3.5-12)) #1 Thu Mar 17 17:10:01 CET 2005
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820:  - 0009fc00 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 - 000a (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 000e - 0010 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0010 - 1dfd (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 1dfd - 1dfdf000 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820: 1dfdf000 - 1e00 (ACPI NVS)
 BIOS-e820: ff78 - 0001 (reserved)
No mptable found.
On node 0 totalpages: 122832
  DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1
  Normal zone: 118736 pages, LIFO batch:16
  HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1
ACPI: RSDP (v002 ACPIAM) @ 0x000fb120
ACPI: XSDT (v001 A M I  OEMXSDT  0x11000411 MSFT 0x0097) @ 
0x1dfd0100
ACPI: FADT (v003 A M I  OEMFACP  0x11000411 MSFT 0x0097) @ 
0x1dfd0290
ACPI: MADT (v001 A M I  OEMAPIC  0x11000411 MSFT 0x0097) @ 
0x1dfd0390
ACPI: OEMB (v001 A M I  AMI_OEM  0x11000411 MSFT 0x0097) @ 
0x1dfdf040
ACPI: DSDT (v001  AH005 AH005001 0x0001 INTL 0x02002026) @ 
0x
ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee0
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x01] lapic_id[0x00] enabled)
Processor #0 15:4 APIC version 16
ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x01] address[0xfec0] gsi_base[0])
IOAPIC[0]: apic_id 1, version 20, address 0xfec0, GSI 0-23
ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 0 global_irq 2 dfl dfl)
ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 9 global_irq 9 low level)
ACPI: IRQ0 used by override.
ACPI: IRQ2 used by override.
ACPI: IRQ9 used by override.
Setting APIC routing to flat
Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information
Checking aperture...
CPU 0: aperture @ e000 size 32 MB
Aperture from northbridge cpu 0 too small (32 MB)
AGP bridge at 00:00:00
Aperture from AGP @ e000 size 32 MB (APSIZE f38)
Aperture from AGP bridge too small (32 MB)
Your BIOS doesn't leave a aperture memory hole
Please enable the IOMMU option in the BIOS setup
This costs you 64 MB of RAM
Mapping aperture over 65536 KB of RAM @ 400
Built 1 zonelists
Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda1 ro  console=tty0
Initializing CPU#0
PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 11, 65536 bytes)
time.c: Using 1.193182 MHz PIT timer.
time.c: Detected 1804.013 MHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Memory: 411412k/491328k available (1670k kernel code, 79132k reserved, 964k 
data, 140k init)
Calibrating delay loop... 3571.71 BogoMIPS (lpj=1785856)
Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized
Capability LSM initialized
Mount-cache hash table entries: 256 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: L2 Cache: 512K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: AMD 

Re: X Strangeness with mouse after new install

2004-11-23 Thread Slava Risenberg
See my answer for kdm and psaux post
http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2004/11/msg00181.html post

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Re: X Strangeness with mouse after new install

2004-11-23 Thread Artimus Dink

--- Bob Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Artimus Dink wrote:
  (**) Option Device /dev/psaux
  (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psaux
  No such device.
  (EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device
  (EE) PreInit failed for input device Configured
 Mouse
  [...]
  (**) Option Device /dev/input/mice
  (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device
  /dev/input/mice
  No such device.
 
 Hmm...
 
  If I try 'startx' again, I get this...
 
 That seems really bizarre to me.  I am sure most
 people are not seeing
 such strange stuff.
 
  someone suggested adding mousedev and pmouse to
  /etc/modules.  If I do this, X starts on the first
  try, but the mouse doesn't work at all.
 
 That seems reasonable.  I usually have those on
 woody machines.  Sarge
 has both hotplug and discover and one of those loads
 those drivers for
 me at system boot time.
 
  I looked at /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and found that I
  have entries for Configured Mouse at
 /dev/psaux
  and Generic Mouse at /dev/input/mice.  This
 struck
  me as a bit odd, but I have an x86 machine running
  Debian Sarge... its XF86Config-4 is set up the
 same
  way and X has always worked flawlessly.
 
 That looks normal for me.  That is how you can have
 both a (im)ps2
 mouse and a usb mouse at the same time.
 
  Can someone tell me what's going on?  I've run
 Fedora
 
 Not a clue.  But is your mouse outputing
 information?  Try this.  When
 you move the mouse you should see some data from the
 device.  Break
 out of it to stop it.
 
   sudo od -tx1 /dev/psaux
 
 If you have mousedev loaded then the /dev/input/mice
 should work too.
 
   sudo od -tx1 /dev/input/mice
 
 If you don't see anything then there is no way that
 X11 will see
 anything either.
 
 Bob
 
 

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Re: X Strangeness with mouse after new install

2004-11-23 Thread Artimus Dink

 
 Not a clue.  But is your mouse outputing
 information?  Try this.  When
 you move the mouse you should see some data from the
 device.  Break
 out of it to stop it.
 
   sudo od -tx1 /dev/psaux
 
 If you have mousedev loaded then the /dev/input/mice
 should work too.
 
   sudo od -tx1 /dev/input/mice
 
 If you don't see anything then there is no way that
 X11 will see
 anything either.
 
 Bob

Sorry about the empty reply... caffiene is a bad idea
this late in the evening...

I definately get output from both sudo commands, and
'lsmod' confirms that the modules are loaded after I
manage to get X up and working.  Again, I tried adding
psmouse and mousedev to /etc/modules, but in that case
X starts but the mouse doesn't work at all.

One thing I've found is that if I do a 'modprobe
psmouse' prior to 'startx', then X will start straight
away and the mouse works fine... any ideas?






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Re: X Strangeness with mouse after new install

2004-11-23 Thread Bob Proulx
Artimus Dink wrote:
 One thing I've found is that if I do a 'modprobe
 psmouse' prior to 'startx', then X will start straight
 away and the mouse works fine... any ideas?

I am guessing that either hotplug or discover or something else is
installed on my machine and loading that module automatically while on
your machine it is not.

Add psmouse to /etc/modules so that it is always loaded.  This was
always needed previously with woody.  It is a tried and true method.

Bob


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Re: X Strangeness with mouse after new install

2004-11-22 Thread Bob Proulx
Artimus Dink wrote:
 (**) Option Device /dev/psaux
 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psaux
   No such device.
 (EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device
 (EE) PreInit failed for input device Configured Mouse
 [...]
 (**) Option Device /dev/input/mice
 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device
 /dev/input/mice
   No such device.

Hmm...

 If I try 'startx' again, I get this...

That seems really bizarre to me.  I am sure most people are not seeing
such strange stuff.

 someone suggested adding mousedev and pmouse to
 /etc/modules.  If I do this, X starts on the first
 try, but the mouse doesn't work at all.

That seems reasonable.  I usually have those on woody machines.  Sarge
has both hotplug and discover and one of those loads those drivers for
me at system boot time.

 I looked at /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and found that I
 have entries for Configured Mouse at /dev/psaux
 and Generic Mouse at /dev/input/mice.  This struck
 me as a bit odd, but I have an x86 machine running
 Debian Sarge... its XF86Config-4 is set up the same
 way and X has always worked flawlessly.

That looks normal for me.  That is how you can have both a (im)ps2
mouse and a usb mouse at the same time.

 Can someone tell me what's going on?  I've run Fedora

Not a clue.  But is your mouse outputing information?  Try this.  When
you move the mouse you should see some data from the device.  Break
out of it to stop it.

  sudo od -tx1 /dev/psaux

If you have mousedev loaded then the /dev/input/mice should work too.

  sudo od -tx1 /dev/input/mice

If you don't see anything then there is no way that X11 will see
anything either.

Bob



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X Strangeness with mouse after new install

2004-11-21 Thread Artimus Dink
I have a fresh install of Debian amd64 / pure64.  Most
everything seems to work fine, but I have a hard time
getting X started.  Initially I disabled xdm, but it
didn't help any.

Basically, I'll type 'startx', wait a few seconds and
x will fail.  The last few lines of
/var/log/XFree86.0.log read...

(II) Keyboard Generic Keyboard handled by legacy
driver
(**) Option Protocol PS/2
(**) Configured Mouse: Protocol: PS/2
(**) Option CorePointer
(**) Configured Mouse: Core Pointer
(**) Option Device /dev/psaux
(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psaux
No such device.
(EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device
(EE) PreInit failed for input device Configured
Mouse
(II) UnloadModule: mouse
(**) Option Protocol ImPS/2
(**) Generic Mouse: Protocol: ImPS/2
(**) Option SendCoreEvents true
(**) Generic Mouse: always reports core events
(**) Option Device /dev/input/mice
(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device
/dev/input/mice
No such device.
(EE) Generic Mouse: cannot open input device
(EE) PreInit failed for input device Generic Mouse
(II) UnloadModule: mouse
(WW) No core pointer registered
No core pointer

Fatal server error:
failed to initialize core devices


If I try 'startx' again, I get this...


(II) Keyboard Generic Keyboard handled by legacy
driver
(**) Option Protocol PS/2
(**) Configured Mouse: Protocol: PS/2
(**) Option CorePointer
(**) Configured Mouse: Core Pointer
(**) Option Device /dev/psaux
(**) Option Emulate3Buttons true
(**) Configured Mouse: Emulate3Buttons,
Emulate3Timeout: 50
(**) Option ZAxisMapping 4 5
(**) Configured Mouse: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) Configured Mouse: Buttons: 5
(**) Option Protocol ImPS/2
(**) Generic Mouse: Protocol: ImPS/2
(**) Option SendCoreEvents true
(**) Generic Mouse: always reports core events
(**) Option Device /dev/input/mice
(**) Option Emulate3Buttons true
(**) Generic Mouse: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout:
50
(**) Option ZAxisMapping 4 5
(**) Generic Mouse: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) Generic Mouse: Buttons: 5
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Generic
Mouse (type: MOUSE)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Configured
Mouse (type: MOUSE)
(II) Configured Mouse: ps2EnableDataReporting:
succeeded
(II) Generic Mouse: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded
Warning: font renderer for .pcf already registered
at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for .pcf.Z already registered
at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for .pcf.gz already
registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for .snf already registered
at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for .snf.Z already registered
at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for .snf.gz already
registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for .bdf already registered
at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for .bdf.Z already registered
at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for .bdf.gz already
registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for .pmf already registered
at priority 0
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] removed 1 reserved context for
kernel
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA
0xff36a000 at 0x2a9dc4a000
=

After which X will hang, then display garbage. Usually
on the third or forth try, X starts and everything
seems to work fine.

I did a bit of Googling for similar situations, and
someone suggested adding mousedev and pmouse to
/etc/modules.  If I do this, X starts on the first
try, but the mouse doesn't work at all.

I've checked to see that the mouse devices exist...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -al /dev/psaux /dev/input/mice
crw-rw  1 root root 13, 63 2004-09-18 17:53
/dev/input/mice
crw---  1 root root 10,  1 2004-09-18 17:51
/dev/psaux

I looked at /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and found that I
have entries for Configured Mouse at /dev/psaux
and Generic Mouse at /dev/input/mice.  This struck
me as a bit odd, but I have an x86 machine running
Debian Sarge... its XF86Config-4 is set up the same
way and X has always worked flawlessly.  However, I
tried removing one or the other entry on my amd64 to
see if this would help.  Either it made no difference
or X didn't work at all.

Other relevant information...

Video Card: ATI-Radeon 9200 (using debian ati driver)
Kernel Version: 2.6.9-9-amd64-k8
XFree86 version: 4.3.0.1

Can someone tell me what's going on?  I've run Fedora
on this machine without any problems (well, without
this problem), so I don't think it's a hardware
issue... I can post my entire XF86Config-4 file and my
XFree86 log files if it would help, but I thought I'd
ask first.  Thanks in advance.





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