Re: PovRAY - Where are you?
On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 12:49:02AM +0200, fred wrote: > The question is thus : why ? > > x86_64 staff does mind debugging povray, or this is simply a license issue ? > > If this is a license issue, it should not be available under i686, no ? > > Does somebody know the _real_ explanation ? > > Crash under x86_64 is not a explanation ;-) Well it appears that povray started to support 64bit in v3.6.1c for windows, and for windows and linux in 3.7 betas. Their current beta apparently expired on march 19 though so who knows where you can get anything to try. Of course since you can't seem to get current source code of the development tree, only release versions, it would be silly for anyone to waste their time on 64 bit fixes when upstream is already doing that in their next version and supposedly already has it working for 64bit, except not released to the public yet. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PovRAY - Where are you?
Quoting simon wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I can remember using PovRAY to do benchmark testing back just before the AMD64 port became part of the regular Debian platform set. Anyone know why it isn't available now. for licensing reasons (it's license is too restrictive for Debian 'main') it's in 'non-free' rather than 'main' simon non-free only has extra files, documentation and include files, but not the binary. It´s just not there for amd64. It builds correctly, but crashes with complex scenes. Cacho.
Re: PovRAY - Where are you?
I can remember using PovRAY to do benchmark testing back just before the AMD64 port became part of the regular Debian platform set. Anyone know why it isn't available now. for licensing reasons (it's license is too restrictive for Debian 'main') it's in 'non-free' rather than 'main' simon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PovRAY - Where are you?
At least for me, it segfaults while rendering complex images on amd64. Gudjon I. Gudjonsson wrote: > Hi again >Excuse me for mailing you again. I downloaded the sources and compiled > them > and I don't see any problem with povray on amd64. I have never used it but it > compiles perfectly and seems to work. >Please test it too and if it works, it should enter the amd64 distribution > again, I think. > apt-get source povray > cd povray-3.6.1 > fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage > > Hope it helps > Gudjon > > On Wednesday 25 April 2007 22:59:40 Gudjon I. Gudjonsson wrote: > >> Hi >>This is a splendid homepage that answers many questions :) >> http://www.us.debian.org/distrib/packages >> After searching for the povray package I found out that it only compiles on >> i386 architectures, unfortunately :( >> >> Regards >> Gudjon >> >> On Wednesday 25 April 2007 22:48:20 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 09:34:29AM +0100, Steve 'Dobbo' Dobson wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all >>>> >>>> I can remember using PovRAY to do benchmark testing back just before >>>> the AMD64 port became part of the regular Debian platform set. Anyone >>>> know why it isn't available now. >>>> >>> Non-free archives, perhaps? >>> >>> Andy >>> > > > > -- Hector Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.genac.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PovRAY - Where are you?
Hi again Excuse me for mailing you again. I downloaded the sources and compiled them and I don't see any problem with povray on amd64. I have never used it but it compiles perfectly and seems to work. Please test it too and if it works, it should enter the amd64 distribution again, I think. apt-get source povray cd povray-3.6.1 fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage Hope it helps Gudjon On Wednesday 25 April 2007 22:59:40 Gudjon I. Gudjonsson wrote: > Hi >This is a splendid homepage that answers many questions :) > http://www.us.debian.org/distrib/packages > After searching for the povray package I found out that it only compiles on > i386 architectures, unfortunately :( > > Regards > Gudjon > > On Wednesday 25 April 2007 22:48:20 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 09:34:29AM +0100, Steve 'Dobbo' Dobson wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > > > I can remember using PovRAY to do benchmark testing back just before > > > the AMD64 port became part of the regular Debian platform set. Anyone > > > know why it isn't available now. > > > > Non-free archives, perhaps? > > > > Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PovRAY - Where are you?
Hi This is a splendid homepage that answers many questions :) http://www.us.debian.org/distrib/packages After searching for the povray package I found out that it only compiles on i386 architectures, unfortunately :( Regards Gudjon On Wednesday 25 April 2007 22:48:20 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 09:34:29AM +0100, Steve 'Dobbo' Dobson wrote: > > Hi all > > > > I can remember using PovRAY to do benchmark testing back just before the > > AMD64 port became part of the regular Debian platform set. Anyone know > > why it isn't available now. > > Non-free archives, perhaps? > > Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PovRAY - Where are you?
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 09:34:29AM +0100, Steve 'Dobbo' Dobson wrote: > Hi all > > I can remember using PovRAY to do benchmark testing back just before the > AMD64 port became part of the regular Debian platform set. Anyone know > why it isn't available now. > Non-free archives, perhaps? Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PovRAY - Where are you?
Hi all I can remember using PovRAY to do benchmark testing back just before the AMD64 port became part of the regular Debian platform set. Anyone know why it isn't available now. Thanx Steve -- Steve "Dobbo" Dobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- BOFH excuse #321: Scheduled global CPU outage signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: povray
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 07:55:44 +0100, Steven Dobson wrote: > Florian > > On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 23:16 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > It is still not fixed for me (Sid, povray 1:3.6.1-3). You could try to > > install the package "povray-3.5" for the time being. > > I've be chatting with Francesco off-list (I guess it was the 'ld > Reply/Reply-All problem). I use povray-3.5 on both my Althon64 and a > Xeon system and both work just fine. Thanks for the info. I had not used povray in a while, therefore I was not aware of the bug until I saw Francesco's question. Good to know that I can indeed fall back on version 3.5 if I should suddenly need povray again. (I did not have time to try it myself yesterday.) -- Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: povray
Florian On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 23:16 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > It is still not fixed for me (Sid, povray 1:3.6.1-3). You could try to > install the package "povray-3.5" for the time being. I've be chatting with Francesco off-list (I guess it was the 'ld Reply/Reply-All problem). I use povray-3.5 on both my Althon64 and a Xeon system and both work just fine. Steve -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: povray
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 16:50:07 +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: > Hi all: > Has anyone tried to install povray debian package and run it on either a > 32bit > machine or a chroot on amd64? I would like to embellish with povray a series > of lectures. I tried on a 32bit etch debian machine. Apparently it installs > correctly, however I was unable to get command lines accepted. [...] > I guess the problem is not a broken package, rather undertsanding correctly > the indications on /etc/povray/3.6/povray.conf and adopting in the HOME > povray.conf equally restrictive, or less restrictive, positions. It seems to be this bug: Pending Upload bugs -- Important bugs (1 bug) 7) #348399: povray-3.6: Povray dies after reading povray.ini It is still not fixed for me (Sid, povray 1:3.6.1-3). You could try to install the package "povray-3.5" for the time being. -- Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: povray
Francesco On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 17:03 +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: > Has anyone tried to install povray debian package and run it on either a > 32bit > machine or a chroot on amd64? I have. > I would like to embellish with povray a series > of lectures. In fact I used pvray to bench mark the performace difference between a 32-bit system I had and my new 64-bit toy :-) The answer was about 40% quicker and my 64-bit is not tuned yet - I need that second bank of memory. I presented those result to the local LUG in a talk on going 64-bit. One slid held two pictures, one generated on a 32-bit system, one on the 64. You could't tell them apart. > I tried on a 32bit etch debian machine. Apparently it installs > correctly, however I was unable to get command lines accepted. I've not had a problem with povray-3.5. the version in sid. This is the version output for a quick test I did just ran to check (it took about 5 secs to render). Persistence of Vision(tm) Ray Tracer Version 3.5.0c-10 (Debian x86_64-linux-gcc) This is an unofficial version compiled by: Jeroen van Wolffelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for Debian (www.debian.org) The POV-Ray Team(tm) is not responsible for supporting this version. The debian packages page[1] shows that this same version is available for amd64, i386 & powerpc. If you want I can e-mail you that test file (7.1K) and the povray.ini file as well to you to test the set up your end. I hope this is more useful than the stuff to got from the povray team. However, I am a bit worried I too have missed something as all I am really saying is "here go install povray-3.5 it works". Have I missed some new "must have" feature in 3.6? Steve [1] http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=povray-3.5&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
povray
Hi all: Has anyone tried to install povray debian package and run it on either a 32bit machine or a chroot on amd64? I would like to embellish with povray a series of lectures. I tried on a 32bit etch debian machine. Apparently it installs correctly, however I was unable to get command lines accepted. Asking help the povray unix support, after a series of suggestions and failures, the answer was that the debian package is broken: >Please download and install the *official* POV-Ray for Linux distribution >to replace the broken Debian package: >ftp://ftp.povray.org/pub/povray/Official/Linux/povlinux-3.6.1.tar.bz2 >Download the file above, unpack with 'tar xvjf povlinux-3.6.1.tar.bz2', >cd to the newly created directory, run the 'install' script and follow the >instructions. You should then be done with a working povray binary. ? I guess the problem is not a broken package, rather undertsanding correctly the indications on /etc/povray/3.6/povray.conf and adopting in the HOME povray.conf equally restrictive, or MORE restrictive, positions. Thanks for reporting your experience francesco pietra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
povray
Hi all: Has anyone tried to install povray debian package and run it on either a 32bit machine or a chroot on amd64? I would like to embellish with povray a series of lectures. I tried on a 32bit etch debian machine. Apparently it installs correctly, however I was unable to get command lines accepted. Asking help the povray unix support, after a series of suggestions and failures, the answer was that the debian package is broken: >Please download and install the *official* POV-Ray for Linux distribution >to replace the broken Debian package: >ftp://ftp.povray.org/pub/povray/Official/Linux/povlinux-3.6.1.tar.bz2 >Download the file above, unpack with 'tar xvjf povlinux-3.6.1.tar.bz2', >cd to the newly created directory, run the 'install' script and follow the >instructions. You should then be done with a working povray binary. ? I guess the problem is not a broken package, rather undertsanding correctly the indications on /etc/povray/3.6/povray.conf and adopting in the HOME povray.conf equally restrictive, or less restrictive, positions. Thanks for reporting your experience francesco pietra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]