Re: Re: soundcard not detected by alsaconf

2005-09-20 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 08:48:01PM -0400, Tony Andrews wrote:
> I have the Chaintech VNF4 Ultra VE. Its a nforce4 motherboard. I think that 
> it has a realtek chip but I know that I can use the nvidia or Realtek 
> drivers on the windows side. I am convinced that its a compatibility issue 
> with this kernel but, if anyone know of any alternatives, I'm open to 
> suggestions. I'm still also interested in a kernel install tutorial. thanks

nvidia chipsets tend to work with snd-intel8x0 driver (assuming your
kernel is new enough to support your chipset).

Len Sorensen


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Re: Re: soundcard not detected by alsaconf

2005-09-19 Thread Tony Andrews
I have the Chaintech VNF4 Ultra VE.  Its a nforce4
motherboard.  I think that it has a realtek chip but I know that I
can use the nvidia or Realtek drivers on the windows side.  I am
convinced that its a compatibility issue with this kernel but, if
anyone know of any alternatives, I'm open to suggestions.  I'm
still also interested in a kernel install tutorial.  thanks


Re: soundcard not detected by alsaconf

2005-09-19 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 12:27:08AM -0400, Tony Andrews wrote:
> I've been trying all day to get the sound up and running, but no dice. I 
> have the chaintech vnf4 ultra which has onboard nvidia sound. I have the 
> snd-intel8x0 driver module and modprobe gives no error. I tried commenting 
> out the oss modules but I'm not to sure that I did a thorough job(im a newb) 
> Here's my lsmod output:

Which chipset do you have?  You may need a newer kernel (like 2.6.12) to
support a fairly recent chipset's sound chip even though it is
compatible with snd-intel8x0.  If the driver doesn't know it should be
able to work your chip's pci id, then it won't try.

Len Sorensen


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Re: soundcard not detected by alsaconf

2005-09-18 Thread Tony Andrews
OK, I guess new kernel it is.  Does anyone know of a good, newbie
oriented, tutorial on installing a new kernel and the pains
thereafter.  Thanks folks.


Re: soundcard not detected by alsaconf

2005-09-18 Thread Tony Andrews
OK, I guess new kernel it is.  Does anyone know of a good, newbie
oriented, tutorial on installing a new kernel and the pains
thereafter.  Thanks folks.


Re: soundcard not detected by alsaconf

2005-09-18 Thread Dean Hamstead
ive found that 2.6.11 is less stable. ie. using my cdrom causes a kernel 
oops


Dean

Yannick - Debian/Linux wrote:

Dean Hamstead a écrit :


i dont know if the drivers not supporting the hardware counts as a bug

i think its just new vendor id's and small changes to alsa, fairly 
normal stuff as new manufacturers ship the same basic chips.


Dean



you are the 4th person in this list (including me and in my 
knowledge) who can't get sound with the driver snd-intel8x0 and the 
kernel 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 provided by debian. We definitly should send 
a bug report...


Fellow the advice : change your kernel : others work *out of the 
box*. (i'm using 2.6.13 from kernel.org)


Regards,
Yannick





quote from this list :
"Hi Yannick,

I ripped out the 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 and reinstalled as 2.6.8-10-amd64-k8 and
now alsa works perfectly. I just had to run alsaconf and the driver
installed straight away and there is sound. Perhaps there really is a
problem with 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8.
Cheers,
Jonathan"

It seems that that driver works in 2.6.8-10-amd64-k8 provided by debian 
but not in 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8, but i have not this test by myself... and 
several people repport problem with 2.6.11 from debian. So you can maybe 
try a *downgrade* your kernel if you can to test the theory ;) (but 
2.6.8-10-amd64-k8 is no more availaible)


Regards,
Yannick





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Re: soundcard not detected by alsaconf

2005-09-18 Thread Yannick - Debian/Linux

Dean Hamstead a écrit :


i dont know if the drivers not supporting the hardware counts as a bug

i think its just new vendor id's and small changes to alsa, fairly 
normal stuff as new manufacturers ship the same basic chips.


Dean



you are the 4th person in this list (including me and in my 
knowledge) who can't get sound with the driver snd-intel8x0 and the 
kernel 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 provided by debian. We definitly should send 
a bug report...


Fellow the advice : change your kernel : others work *out of the 
box*. (i'm using 2.6.13 from kernel.org)


Regards,
Yannick





quote from this list :
"Hi Yannick,

I ripped out the 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 and reinstalled as 2.6.8-10-amd64-k8 and
now alsa works perfectly. I just had to run alsaconf and the driver
installed straight away and there is sound. Perhaps there really is a
problem with 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8.
Cheers,
Jonathan"

It seems that that driver works in 2.6.8-10-amd64-k8 provided by debian but not 
in 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8, but i have not this test by myself... and several people 
repport problem with 2.6.11 from debian. So you can maybe try a *downgrade* 
your kernel if you can to test the theory ;) (but 2.6.8-10-amd64-k8 is no more 
availaible)

Regards,
Yannick




Re: soundcard not detected by alsaconf

2005-09-18 Thread Dean Hamstead

i dont know if the drivers not supporting the hardware counts as a bug

i think its just new vendor id's and small changes to alsa, fairly 
normal stuff as new manufacturers ship the same basic chips.


Dean



you are the 4th person in this list (including me and in my knowledge) 
who can't get sound with the driver snd-intel8x0 and the kernel 
2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 provided by debian. We definitly should send a bug 
report...


Fellow the advice : change your kernel : others work *out of the box*. 
(i'm using 2.6.13 from kernel.org)


Regards,
Yannick




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Re: soundcard not detected by alsaconf

2005-09-18 Thread Yannick - Debian/Linux

Smugzilla a écrit :


Tony Andrews wrote:

I've been trying all day to get the sound up and running, but no 
dice. I have the chaintech vnf4 ultra which has onboard nvidia sound. 
I have the snd-intel8x0 driver module and modprobe gives no error. I 
tried commenting out the oss modules but I'm not to sure that I did a 
thorough job(im a newb) Here's my lsmod output:


debian:~# lsmod
Module Size Used by
isofs 36492 0
nvidia 4384040 12
ipv6 264296 8
af_packet 23308 2
usblp 13696 0
ehci_hcd 30852 0
ohci_hcd 21252 0
tsdev 8576 0
mousedev 11852 1
evdev 10944 0
snd_intel8x0 35988 0
snd_ac97_codec 3220 1 snd_intel8x0
snd_pcm_oss 56680 0
snd_mixer_oss 9520 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 100876 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer 24968 1 snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 12944 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
gameport 5120 1 snd_intel8x0
snd_mpu401_uart 8192 1 snd_intel8x0
snd_rawmidi 26532 1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device 9164 1 snd_rawmidi
snd 56936 9 
snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi, 
snd_seq_device

soundcore 11232 1 snd
psmouse 19340 0
ide_cd 42016 0
cdrom 39208 1 ide_cd
forcedeth 18432 0
ext3 119760 1
jbd 58288 1 ext3
mbcache 9928 1 ext3
ide_generic 1856 0
ide_disk 20864 3
amd74xx 14768 1
ide_core 154336 4 ide_cd,ide_generic,ide_disk,amd74xx
unix 29696 408
font 9152 0
vesafb 6960 0
cfbcopyarea 4160 1 vesafb
cfbimgblt 3328 1 vesafb
cfbfillrect 4352 1 vesafb

As you can see there's still oss modules loaded(told you im a newb). 
I'm not sure is thats significant but i'm sure that I don't know what 
else to try. Its a Debian 64bit distro running 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 
kernel and I believe that the alsa drivers are on by default. any 
help would be appreciated. 



Upgrade your kernel to 2.6.12 or better. Worked for me.


you are the 4th person in this list (including me and in my knowledge) 
who can't get sound with the driver snd-intel8x0 and the kernel 
2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 provided by debian. We definitly should send a bug 
report...


Fellow the advice : change your kernel : others work *out of the box*. 
(i'm using 2.6.13 from kernel.org)


Regards,
Yannick



Re: soundcard not detected by alsaconf

2005-09-17 Thread Smugzilla

Tony Andrews wrote:

I've been trying all day to get the sound up and running, but no dice. 
I have the chaintech vnf4 ultra which has onboard nvidia sound. I have 
the snd-intel8x0 driver module and modprobe gives no error. I tried 
commenting out the oss modules but I'm not to sure that I did a 
thorough job(im a newb) Here's my lsmod output:


debian:~# lsmod
Module Size Used by
isofs 36492 0
nvidia 4384040 12
ipv6 264296 8
af_packet 23308 2
usblp 13696 0
ehci_hcd 30852 0
ohci_hcd 21252 0
tsdev 8576 0
mousedev 11852 1
evdev 10944 0
snd_intel8x0 35988 0
snd_ac97_codec 3220 1 snd_intel8x0
snd_pcm_oss 56680 0
snd_mixer_oss 9520 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 100876 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer 24968 1 snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 12944 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
gameport 5120 1 snd_intel8x0
snd_mpu401_uart 8192 1 snd_intel8x0
snd_rawmidi 26532 1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device 9164 1 snd_rawmidi
snd 56936 9 
snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi, 
snd_seq_device

soundcore 11232 1 snd
psmouse 19340 0
ide_cd 42016 0
cdrom 39208 1 ide_cd
forcedeth 18432 0
ext3 119760 1
jbd 58288 1 ext3
mbcache 9928 1 ext3
ide_generic 1856 0
ide_disk 20864 3
amd74xx 14768 1
ide_core 154336 4 ide_cd,ide_generic,ide_disk,amd74xx
unix 29696 408
font 9152 0
vesafb 6960 0
cfbcopyarea 4160 1 vesafb
cfbimgblt 3328 1 vesafb
cfbfillrect 4352 1 vesafb

As you can see there's still oss modules loaded(told you im a newb). 
I'm not sure is thats significant but i'm sure that I don't know what 
else to try. Its a Debian 64bit distro running 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 
kernel and I believe that the alsa drivers are on by default. any help 
would be appreciated. 


Upgrade your kernel to 2.6.12 or better. Worked for me.


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soundcard not detected by alsaconf

2005-09-17 Thread Tony Andrews
I've been trying all day to get the sound up and running, but no dice.
I have the chaintech vnf4 ultra which has onboard nvidia sound. I have
the snd-intel8x0 driver module and modprobe gives no error. I tried
commenting out the oss modules but I'm not to sure that I did a
thorough job(im a newb) Here's my lsmod output:



debian:~# lsmod

Module  Size  Used by

isofs36492  0

nvidia  4384040   12

ipv6 2642968

af_packet  23308 2

usblp13696  0

ehci_hcd   30852  0

ohci_hcd   21252  0

tsdev 8576  0

mousedev  11852  1

evdev10944  0

snd_intel8x0   35988  0

snd_ac97_codec 3220  1 snd_intel8x0

snd_pcm_oss  56680  0

snd_mixer_oss9520  1 snd_pcm_oss

snd_pcm 100876  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm_oss

snd_timer24968  1 snd_pcm

snd_page_alloc12944  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm

gameport 5120  1 snd_intel8x0

snd_mpu401_uart  8192  1 snd_intel8x0

snd_rawmidi26532  1 snd_mpu401_uart

snd_seq_device   9164  1 snd_rawmidi

snd 56936 9
snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,
snd_seq_device

soundcore11232  1 snd

psmouse  19340  0

ide_cd  42016  0

cdrom  39208  1 ide_cd

forcedeth  18432  0

ext3 119760  1

jbd   58288  1 ext3

mbcache   9928  1 ext3

ide_generic1856  0

ide_disk20864  3

amd74xx   14768  1

ide_core   154336  4 ide_cd,ide_generic,ide_disk,amd74xx

unix  29696  408

font   9152  0

vesafb   6960  0

cfbcopyarea   4160  1 vesafb

cfbimgblt3328  1 vesafb

cfbfillrect4352  1 vesafb



As you can see there's still oss modules loaded(told you im a newb).
I'm not sure is thats significant but i'm sure that I don't know what
else to try. Its a Debian 64bit distro running 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 kernel
and I believe that the alsa drivers are on by default. any help would
be appreciated.