Re: status of skype amd64
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Berni Elbourn wrote: > Should do. Its been a while but I used Gizmo with sipgate on N800 with > no problems. Have to say gizmo was nicely presented - but I now use the > Nokia's own sip sw. > > Gizmo might need some trickery to work on amd64. Look here, and bottom > right hand corner for clients: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/twinkle > Gizmo works fine, here, on amd64. However, since Google took over Gizmo I think you can no longer easily download it. I should probably look more in the menus and see how to use it with some other sip provider, an check some other clients. Regards Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktim7ey7t7gfebt1kiaswqeeuhr3h0ghbtmejz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: status of skype amd64
Liviu Andronic wrote: On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Lennart Sorensen wrote: Is there a provider that provides a SIP to land-line jump like skype but using SIP..? Hundreds if not thousands of them. Look up DID service providers. For example: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/DID+Service+Providers Thanks for the link! I imagine Skype wishes people didn't know they had other options. Skype may be a bit easier to setup given it is an all in one service, but still. What about Gizmo5? Can it be set-up to use a random SIP provider? Liviu Should do. Its been a while but I used Gizmo with sipgate on N800 with no problems. Have to say gizmo was nicely presented - but I now use the Nokia's own sip sw. Gizmo might need some trickery to work on amd64. Look here, and bottom right hand corner for clients: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/twinkle Berni -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c29a90e.6060...@elbourn.com
Re: status of skype amd64
Liviu Andronic wrote: On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Lennart Sorensen wrote: Is there a provider that provides a SIP to land-line jump like skype but using SIP..? Hundreds if not thousands of them. Look up DID service providers. For example: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/DID+Service+Providers Thanks for the link! I imagine Skype wishes people didn't know they had other options. Skype may be a bit easier to setup given it is an all in one service, but still. What about Gizmo5? Can it be set-up to use a random SIP provider? Liviu Should do. Its been a while but I used Gizmo with sipgate on N800 with no problems. Have to say gizmo was nicely presented - but I now use the Nokia's own sip sw. Gizmo might need some trickery to work on amd64. Look here, and bottom right hand corner for clients: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/twinkle Berni -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c29a929.8000...@elbournb.fsnet.co.uk
Re: status of skype amd64
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Lennart Sorensen wrote: >> Is there a provider that provides a SIP to land-line jump like skype but >> using SIP..? > > Hundreds if not thousands of them. > > Look up DID service providers. > > For example: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/DID+Service+Providers > Thanks for the link! > I imagine Skype wishes people didn't know they had other options. > Skype may be a bit easier to setup given it is an all in one service, > but still. > What about Gizmo5? Can it be set-up to use a random SIP provider? Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktil13psqamnjy1n5as90lgvftz3ycypqvwlut...@mail.gmail.com
Re: status of skype amd64
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 09:56:15PM -0500, Karl Schmidt wrote: > Lennart Sorensen wrote: > >> Until some day skype decides to open their protocol and actually play >> nice with anyone else, rather than try to build a VoIP monopoly, it >> simply won't happen. >> >> I just tell people to not use skype. :) Everyone else uses SIP. > > Is there a provider that provides a SIP to land-line jump like skype but > using SIP..? Hundreds if not thousands of them. Look up DID service providers. For example: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/DID+Service+Providers I imagine Skype wishes people didn't know they had other options. Skype may be a bit easier to setup given it is an all in one service, but still. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100628185109.gg2...@caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca
Re: status of skype amd64
On 28/06/10 13:22, Liviu Andronic wrote: On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Berni Elbourn wrote: I have sipgate for years. Gives a local looking phone number too. Does it have a version for Debian? I cannot find one. Thank you Liviu Sip is a voip standard. Happily this means you can use any sip phone and any Sip provider. Sipgate info: http://www.sipgate.co.uk/ I use this one on amd64... http://packages.debian.org/lenny/twinkle But look at the panel down there on right hand side. Lots there to choose. Enjoy, Berni -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c289d56.20...@elbournb.fsnet.co.uk
Re: status of skype amd64
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Berni Elbourn wrote: > I have sipgate for years. Gives a local looking phone number too. > Does it have a version for Debian? I cannot find one. Thank you Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinhgt0fvdb6xkpl2vdqj1uub_juwmoakhjwh...@mail.gmail.com
Re: status of skype amd64
Michael wrote: Karl, Is there a provider that provides a SIP to land-line jump like skype but using SIP..? ekiga.net (i think), at least to mobiles I have sipgate for years. Gives a local looking phone number too. Berni -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c28517f.1030...@elbournb.fsnet.co.uk
Re: status of skype amd64
Karl, > Is there a provider that provides a SIP to land-line jump like skype but > using SIP..? ekiga.net (i think), at least to mobiles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100627074251.1edb0...@mirrors.kernel.org
Re: status of skype amd64
Lennart Sorensen wrote: Until some day skype decides to open their protocol and actually play nice with anyone else, rather than try to build a VoIP monopoly, it simply won't happen. I just tell people to not use skype. :) Everyone else uses SIP. Is there a provider that provides a SIP to land-line jump like skype but using SIP..? Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 While understanding one's problems may be a good thing; it doesn't make them go away. -kps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c26bdcf.9010...@xtronics.com
Re: status of skype amd64
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:09, Michael wrote:
> I found this hint in the skype packages README:
>
> * On Debian amd64 version Skype crashes on startup with the message:
> "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 623: _dl_open: Assertion
> `_dl_debug_initialize (0, args.nsid)->r_state == RT_CONSISTENT' failed!"
> This seems to be Debian only issue with 32 bit PulseAudio libraries being
> installed even if PulseAudio is not active, a workaround can be:
> - Debian Lenny:
> sudo chmod a-r /usr/lib32/libpulse{-simple.so.0.0.1,.so.0.4.1}
> - Debian Squeeze:
> sudo chmod a-r
> /usr/lib32/libpulse{-simple.so.0.0.2,.so.0.8.0,common-0.9.15.so}
>
> But there are other apps which need libpulse, like avidemux or (i think)
> amarok, and i don't want to 'corrupt' the system.
>
To clarify something, this suggestion is about to change the access to
some 32-bits libraries so Skype is able to work (what I did was even
move them to another place for backup). So, unless you're talking
about the 32-bits version of programs using those libraries, you
should have no problem at all.
My best guest is that you must have the 64-bits version of amarok for
example that use the 64-bits version of those libraries that you don't
have to touch for Skype to work.
Hope this try of explanation is good since English is not my native language :-)
Ernesto
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Re: status of skype amd64
Lennart, > I just tell people to not use skype. :) Everyone else uses SIP. I think you are right. A VoIP monopol, that would be a real bad thing. So i'll try to suggest SIP first to anyone. I think it boils down to multiple IMs open at the same time, but that's the price. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100625031433.596d4...@mirrors.kernel.org
Re: status of skype amd64
Michael writes:
> Thanks for your suggestions !
>
> There seem to be at least 3 versions of debian packages:
>
> skype-debian_2.1.0.81-1_i386.deb
> skype_static-2.1.0.81.tar.bz2
> skype-ubuntu-intrepid_2.1.0.81-1_amd64.deb
You want the amd64 package even though that contains the just the 32bit
binary as well. But it depends on ia2-libs and doesn't need
--force-architecture.
> But i could not get any of these working beyond the license agreement resp.
> login.
>
> I found this hint in the skype packages README:
>
> * On Debian amd64 version Skype crashes on startup with the message:
> "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 623: _dl_open: Assertion
> `_dl_debug_initialize (0, args.nsid)->r_state == RT_CONSISTENT' failed!"
> This seems to be Debian only issue with 32 bit PulseAudio libraries being
> installed even if PulseAudio is not active, a workaround can be:
> - Debian Lenny:
> sudo chmod a-r /usr/lib32/libpulse{-simple.so.0.0.1,.so.0.4.1}
> - Debian Squeeze:
> sudo chmod a-r
> /usr/lib32/libpulse{-simple.so.0.0.2,.so.0.8.0,common-0.9.15.so}
Or download the current i386 libpulse deb from debian and unpack it over
ia2-libs. Given it works in ubuntu this is probably just a version skew
and an update of libpulse* should fix it.
If not we need to know that too.
MfG
Goswin
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Re: status of skype amd64
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Michael wrote:
> Thanks for your suggestions !
>
> There seem to be at least 3 versions of debian packages:
>
> skype-debian_2.1.0.81-1_i386.deb
> skype_static-2.1.0.81.tar.bz2
> skype-ubuntu-intrepid_2.1.0.81-1_amd64.deb
>
> But i could not get any of these working beyond the license agreement resp.
> login.
>
> I found this hint in the skype packages README:
>
> * On Debian amd64 version Skype crashes on startup with the message:
> "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 623: _dl_open: Assertion
> `_dl_debug_initialize (0, args.nsid)->r_state == RT_CONSISTENT' failed!"
> This seems to be Debian only issue with 32 bit PulseAudio libraries being
> installed even if PulseAudio is not active, a workaround can be:
> - Debian Lenny:
> sudo chmod a-r /usr/lib32/libpulse{-simple.so.0.0.1,.so.0.4.1}
> - Debian Squeeze:
> sudo chmod a-r
> /usr/lib32/libpulse{-simple.so.0.0.2,.so.0.8.0,common-0.9.15.so}
>
> But there are other apps which need libpulse, like avidemux or (i think)
> amarok, and i don't want to 'corrupt' the system.
dpkg -l |grep pulse
ii ia32-libpulse0
0.9.21-1~22 PulseAudio client libraries
ii libpulse-mainloop-glib0
0.9.10-3+lenny2+b1 PulseAudio client libraries (glib
support)
ii libpulse0 0.9.21-1
PulseAudio client libraries
and my amarok is working...
and skype too...
dpkg -l |grep skype
ii skype
2.1.0.81-1~22 Skype
>
> Another option seem to be to setup a special skype 32bit library repository
> and extend the users LD path. Maybe i'll try that next.
>
> It seems skype is not included into the debian ia32 list of programs ? And
> yes, there isn't any official skype package in non-free. I just wonder why.
>
> Hmm, so what woul dbe alternatives, considereing some people out there want
> to 'skype' for business. Is there any IM program that can flawless manage
> accounts of different protocols like Sykpe, ICQ or SIP, altogether ? Pidgin
> seems to just call the skype app, so it requires a working skype
> installation. But is there a software that doesn't ?
>
>
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Re: status of skype amd64
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 05:09:03PM +0200, Michael wrote:
> Thanks for your suggestions !
>
> There seem to be at least 3 versions of debian packages:
>
> skype-debian_2.1.0.81-1_i386.deb
> skype_static-2.1.0.81.tar.bz2
> skype-ubuntu-intrepid_2.1.0.81-1_amd64.deb
>
> But i could not get any of these working beyond the license agreement resp.
> login.
>
> I found this hint in the skype packages README:
>
> * On Debian amd64 version Skype crashes on startup with the message:
> "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 623: _dl_open: Assertion
> `_dl_debug_initialize (0, args.nsid)->r_state == RT_CONSISTENT' failed!"
> This seems to be Debian only issue with 32 bit PulseAudio libraries being
> installed even if PulseAudio is not active, a workaround can be:
> - Debian Lenny:
> sudo chmod a-r /usr/lib32/libpulse{-simple.so.0.0.1,.so.0.4.1}
> - Debian Squeeze:
> sudo chmod a-r
> /usr/lib32/libpulse{-simple.so.0.0.2,.so.0.8.0,common-0.9.15.so}
>
> But there are other apps which need libpulse, like avidemux or (i think)
> amarok, and i don't want to 'corrupt' the system.
>
> Another option seem to be to setup a special skype 32bit library repository
> and extend the users LD path. Maybe i'll try that next.
>
> It seems skype is not included into the debian ia32 list of programs ? And
> yes, there isn't any official skype package in non-free. I just wonder why.
>
> Hmm, so what woul dbe alternatives, considereing some people out there want
> to 'skype' for business. Is there any IM program that can flawless manage
> accounts of different protocols like Sykpe, ICQ or SIP, altogether ? Pidgin
> seems to just call the skype app, so it requires a working skype
> installation. But is there a software that doesn't ?
Until some day skype decides to open their protocol and actually play
nice with anyone else, rather than try to build a VoIP monopoly, it
simply won't happen.
I just tell people to not use skype. :) Everyone else uses SIP.
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Re: status of skype amd64
Thanks for your suggestions !
There seem to be at least 3 versions of debian packages:
skype-debian_2.1.0.81-1_i386.deb
skype_static-2.1.0.81.tar.bz2
skype-ubuntu-intrepid_2.1.0.81-1_amd64.deb
But i could not get any of these working beyond the license agreement resp.
login.
I found this hint in the skype packages README:
* On Debian amd64 version Skype crashes on startup with the message:
"Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 623: _dl_open: Assertion
`_dl_debug_initialize (0, args.nsid)->r_state == RT_CONSISTENT' failed!"
This seems to be Debian only issue with 32 bit PulseAudio libraries being
installed even if PulseAudio is not active, a workaround can be:
- Debian Lenny:
sudo chmod a-r /usr/lib32/libpulse{-simple.so.0.0.1,.so.0.4.1}
- Debian Squeeze:
sudo chmod a-r
/usr/lib32/libpulse{-simple.so.0.0.2,.so.0.8.0,common-0.9.15.so}
But there are other apps which need libpulse, like avidemux or (i think)
amarok, and i don't want to 'corrupt' the system.
Another option seem to be to setup a special skype 32bit library repository and
extend the users LD path. Maybe i'll try that next.
It seems skype is not included into the debian ia32 list of programs ? And yes,
there isn't any official skype package in non-free. I just wonder why.
Hmm, so what woul dbe alternatives, considereing some people out there want to
'skype' for business. Is there any IM program that can flawless manage
accounts of different protocols like Sykpe, ICQ or SIP, altogether ? Pidgin
seems to just call the skype app, so it requires a working skype installation.
But is there a software that doesn't ?
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Re: status of skype amd64
2010/6/15 Jaime Ochoa Malagón : > you need to install the (ubuntu) amd64 package with ia32-libs... > > http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/post-download/ > > I have ia32-apt-get and use the normal package... > If you experience crashes with this set-up, try (re)moving /usr/lib32/libpulse* on each Desktop log-on. Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimwaycetakemoogfeeklzn32ijfcsvd85zom...@mail.gmail.com
Re: status of skype amd64
you need to install the (ubuntu) amd64 package with ia32-libs... http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/post-download/ I have ia32-apt-get and use the normal package... On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Michael wrote: > Hello, > > Does anybody know what's the state of skype for amd64 ? > > My first try was, i installed skype-debian_2.1.0.81-1_i386.deb with dpkg > --force > > (btw weird, it does not appear in the apt database afterwards!) > > Then i launched 'skype' via user and got an error: > > "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 611: _dl_open: Assertion > `_dl_debug_initialize (0, args.nsid)->r_state == RT_CONSISTENT' failed!" > > So there my question. > > > system info: > > # Machine: x86_64 > # Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-4-amd64 (custom) > # Debian GNU/Linux squeeze/sid > libc6 2.11.2-1 > ia32-libs 20090808 > libasound2 1.0.23-1 > libasound2-plugins 1.0.23-1 > libqt4-dbus 4:4.6.3-1 > libqt4-assistant 4:4.6.3-1 > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100615015737.740aa...@mirrors.kernel.org > > -- Perhaps the depth of love can be calibrated by the number of different selves that are actively involved in a given relationship. Carl Sagan (Contact) Absolute certainty is a privilege of uneducated minds-and fanatics. It is, for scientific folk, an unattainable ideal. Cassius J. Keyser Jaime Ochoa Malagón Arquitecto de Soluciones Cel: +52 (55) 1021 0774 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktik4-iuqm2tlullcvicqynxoixvwdpfjqnskk...@mail.gmail.com
status of skype amd64
Hello, Does anybody know what's the state of skype for amd64 ? My first try was, i installed skype-debian_2.1.0.81-1_i386.deb with dpkg --force (btw weird, it does not appear in the apt database afterwards!) Then i launched 'skype' via user and got an error: "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 611: _dl_open: Assertion `_dl_debug_initialize (0, args.nsid)->r_state == RT_CONSISTENT' failed!" So there my question. system info: # Machine: x86_64 # Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-4-amd64 (custom) # Debian GNU/Linux squeeze/sid libc6 2.11.2-1 ia32-libs 20090808 libasound2 1.0.23-1 libasound2-plugins 1.0.23-1 libqt4-dbus 4:4.6.3-1 libqt4-assistant4:4.6.3-1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100615015737.740aa...@mirrors.kernel.org
