Re: Re: udev problems
I tried several installs using sid-amd64-netinst.iso 26-Oct-2004. Tried getting udev first, tried new install off the net, no luck solving udev, x crash problem. Installed Ubuntu AMD64 and it managed to setup gnome, udev OK. But the repository is too limited. I tried AGNULA/Demudi 1.2.0-i386, 2.4 kernelfrom Sept 2004. that wouldn't get past partitioning the SATA disk. Now I have reinstalled debian-amd64 with x-window-system, gdm, gnome-core and I will leave udev well alone! Thanx for the help, Norv
Re: udev problems
On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 15:46:15 +1100, Norval Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 19:04 -0600, Kunjan Shah wrote: > > On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 02:54:57 +1100, Norval Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have been experiencing a similar problem.. > > > I cannot install udev without losing x as described. > > > I just did netinstall with sid from alioth and x is fine until udev is > > > installed (ie. with gnome-desktop-environment). Then I get the problems > > > described by Kunjan. > > > I did aptitude purge udev, which took out gnome-desktop-environment with > > > it and now my x display is working again. > > > The only thing i could note from the install was that I chose to have my > > > devices managed by discover when that option was presented. > > > Season's Greetings, > > > Norv > > > > > > > Merry Christmas to all! > > > > Do you have a nividia display card? > > if you do then you might have installed a custom kernel. > > and for some reason even if u dont have the devfsd installed it will > > still load up devfs > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/$ uname -a > Linux pan64 2.6.8-9-amd64-k8 #1 Sat Dec 4 23:16:23 CET 2004 x86_64 > GNU/Linux > Doesn't look like a custom kernel to me... > > > > > > what i did was reinstall everything and i didnt select any pacakge > > from base-config instead i bailed out and installed udev first and > > then fired up aptitude and installed other stuff. > > Sounds like a good workaround, I will try that if i get stuck > Thanx for the tips > Norv its working so far for me except for some reason gnome keeps on locking up and if the sound dont work then go root and do this chmod +0666 /dev/dsp * ; chown root /dev/dsp* and if that fixes the problem then change the permissions on /dev/dsp in udev config files. > > -- - Kunjan Shah http://kunjan.net
Re: udev problems
On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 19:04 -0600, Kunjan Shah wrote: > On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 02:54:57 +1100, Norval Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have been experiencing a similar problem.. > > I cannot install udev without losing x as described. > > I just did netinstall with sid from alioth and x is fine until udev is > > installed (ie. with gnome-desktop-environment). Then I get the problems > > described by Kunjan. > > I did aptitude purge udev, which took out gnome-desktop-environment with > > it and now my x display is working again. > > The only thing i could note from the install was that I chose to have my > > devices managed by discover when that option was presented. > > Season's Greetings, > > Norv > > > > Merry Christmas to all! > > Do you have a nividia display card? > if you do then you might have installed a custom kernel. > and for some reason even if u dont have the devfsd installed it will > still load up devfs [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/$ uname -a Linux pan64 2.6.8-9-amd64-k8 #1 Sat Dec 4 23:16:23 CET 2004 x86_64 GNU/Linux Doesn't look like a custom kernel to me... > > what i did was reinstall everything and i didnt select any pacakge > from base-config instead i bailed out and installed udev first and > then fired up aptitude and installed other stuff. Sounds like a good workaround, I will try that if i get stuck Thanx for the tips Norv
Re: udev problems
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 02:54:57 +1100, Norval Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been experiencing a similar problem.. > I cannot install udev without losing x as described. > I just did netinstall with sid from alioth and x is fine until udev is > installed (ie. with gnome-desktop-environment). Then I get the problems > described by Kunjan. > I did aptitude purge udev, which took out gnome-desktop-environment with > it and now my x display is working again. > The only thing i could note from the install was that I chose to have my > devices managed by discover when that option was presented. > Season's Greetings, > Norv > Merry Christmas to all! Do you have a nividia display card? if you do then you might have installed a custom kernel. and for some reason even if u dont have the devfsd installed it will still load up devfs what i did was reinstall everything and i didnt select any pacakge from base-config instead i bailed out and installed udev first and then fired up aptitude and installed other stuff. how ever i am having some problems getting nvidia drivers running again i dont need 3d accel but the nv driver currupts the text mode display when you get out of x. and gnome-volume-manager needs udev... so thats the only reason i need udev. Regards, Kunjan. > > On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 02:27 -0600, Kunjan Shah wrote: > > shoot i been replying to you only all the time and this thread never > > made it to the list. > > > > so now it does. :( > > > > > > On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:25:53 -0600, Kunjan Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ok hmm i booted with a live cd and did > > > > > > cd /mnt/hda8/dev/ > > > mknod -m 600 console c 5 1 > > > mknod -m 666 null c 1 3 > > > > > > and booted with devfs=nomount > > > > > > and still my mtab looks the same:( > > > > > > and i have udevd running and /proc/filesystems shows > > > "nodev devfs" > > > > > > yup my brain's fried. > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:33:05 -0600, Kunjan Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > the thing is i think udev and devfs are running together... coz i got > > > > a /.dev in root... > > > > > > > > yeah my /home is on a seperate partition. i wouldnt mind reinstalling > > > > its a fresh system and i have no data on it. AMD64 u know i knew it > > > > wasnt going to be smooth sailing ;) > > > > > > > > here's my fstab (or u can go here http://kunjan.net/fstab ) > > > > # /etc/fstab: static file system information. > > > > # > > > > # > > > > proc/proc procdefaults0 0 > > > > /dev/hda8 / ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 > > > >1 > > > > /dev/hda7 /boot ext3defaults0 2 > > > > /dev/hda9 /home ext3defaults0 2 > > > > /dev/hda10 noneswapsw 0 0 > > > > /dev/hdc/media/cdrom0 iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 > > > > > > > > and here's grep output > > > > CONFIG_DEVFS_FS=y > > > > # CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT is not set > > > > # CONFIG_DEVFS_DEBUG is not set > > > > > > > > i can reinstall if its required but if i can fix it i can learn a few > > > > new things ;) > > > > this is a fresh install so its cool!! > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot! > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Kunjan > > > > > > > > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:14:52 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2004-12-22 at 11:45 -0600, Kunjan Shah wrote: > > > > > > here's my mtab > > > > > > > > > > > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target/lun0/part7 /boot ext3 rw 0 0 > > > > > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target/lun0/part8 / ext3 rw 0 0 > > > > > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target/lun0/part9 /home ext3 rw 0 0 > > > > > > devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 > > > > > > none /dev tmpfs rw,size=5M,mode=0755 0 0 > > > > > > proc /proc proc rw 0 0 > > > > > > sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0 > > > > > > tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0 > > > > > > usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0 > > > > > > > > > > Well, you're definitely running devfs... :( > > > > > > > > > > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target/lun0/partX this i need to change to > > > > > > /dev/hdaX right? > > > > > > > > > > *You* won't. Linux will, when you disable devfs. > > > > > > > > > > How the heck devfs got there in the 1st place is what I want to know. > > > > > > > > > > > what else is wrong there? > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm. It's not "wrong", its just different. (I sound s > > > > > Politically Correct, don't I?) > > > > > > > > > > I need you to do these 4 things: > > > > > > > > > > - Please *attach* your /etc/fstab. > > > > > > > > > > - Please tell me that your /home is on a separate partition. > > > > > > > > > > - Run this command "grep DEVFS /boot/config-$(uname -r)" > > > > > > > > > > - Steel yourself for the probability that you'll have to reinstall > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Kunjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 22 Dec 2
Re: udev problems
I have been experiencing a similar problem.. I cannot install udev without losing x as described. I just did netinstall with sid from alioth and x is fine until udev is installed (ie. with gnome-desktop-environment). Then I get the problems described by Kunjan. I did aptitude purge udev, which took out gnome-desktop-environment with it and now my x display is working again. The only thing i could note from the install was that I chose to have my devices managed by discover when that option was presented. Season's Greetings, Norv On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 02:27 -0600, Kunjan Shah wrote: > shoot i been replying to you only all the time and this thread never > made it to the list. > > so now it does. :( > > > On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:25:53 -0600, Kunjan Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ok hmm i booted with a live cd and did > > > > cd /mnt/hda8/dev/ > > mknod -m 600 console c 5 1 > > mknod -m 666 null c 1 3 > > > > and booted with devfs=nomount > > > > and still my mtab looks the same:( > > > > and i have udevd running and /proc/filesystems shows > > "nodev devfs" > > > > yup my brain's fried. > > > > > > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:33:05 -0600, Kunjan Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > the thing is i think udev and devfs are running together... coz i got > > > a /.dev in root... > > > > > > yeah my /home is on a seperate partition. i wouldnt mind reinstalling > > > its a fresh system and i have no data on it. AMD64 u know i knew it > > > wasnt going to be smooth sailing ;) > > > > > > here's my fstab (or u can go here http://kunjan.net/fstab ) > > > # /etc/fstab: static file system information. > > > # > > > # > > > proc/proc procdefaults0 0 > > > /dev/hda8 / ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 > > > 1 > > > /dev/hda7 /boot ext3defaults0 2 > > > /dev/hda9 /home ext3defaults0 2 > > > /dev/hda10 noneswapsw 0 0 > > > /dev/hdc/media/cdrom0 iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 > > > > > > and here's grep output > > > CONFIG_DEVFS_FS=y > > > # CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT is not set > > > # CONFIG_DEVFS_DEBUG is not set > > > > > > i can reinstall if its required but if i can fix it i can learn a few > > > new things ;) > > > this is a fresh install so its cool!! > > > > > > Thanks a lot! > > > > > > Regards, > > > Kunjan > > > > > > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:14:52 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2004-12-22 at 11:45 -0600, Kunjan Shah wrote: > > > > > here's my mtab > > > > > > > > > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target/lun0/part7 /boot ext3 rw 0 0 > > > > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target/lun0/part8 / ext3 rw 0 0 > > > > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target/lun0/part9 /home ext3 rw 0 0 > > > > > devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 > > > > > none /dev tmpfs rw,size=5M,mode=0755 0 0 > > > > > proc /proc proc rw 0 0 > > > > > sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0 > > > > > tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0 > > > > > usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0 > > > > > > > > Well, you're definitely running devfs... :( > > > > > > > > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target/lun0/partX this i need to change to > > > > > /dev/hdaX right? > > > > > > > > *You* won't. Linux will, when you disable devfs. > > > > > > > > How the heck devfs got there in the 1st place is what I want to know. > > > > > > > > > what else is wrong there? > > > > > > > > Hmmm. It's not "wrong", its just different. (I sound s > > > > Politically Correct, don't I?) > > > > > > > > I need you to do these 4 things: > > > > > > > > - Please *attach* your /etc/fstab. > > > > > > > > - Please tell me that your /home is on a separate partition. > > > > > > > > - Run this command "grep DEVFS /boot/config-$(uname -r)" > > > > > > > > - Steel yourself for the probability that you'll have to reinstall > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Kunjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:08:12 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 2004-12-22 at 10:57 -0600, Kunjan Shah wrote: > > > > > > > Well if i add devfs=nomount then the system doesnt boot. the > > > > > > > Kernel > > > > > > > says cant open /dev/console. and /dev/null. I tried creating > > > > > > > static > > > > > > > entries but since they are already in /dev i cant create them > > > > > > > either > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so if i want to boot the system i have to add devfs=mount to the > > > > > > > kernel args. > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting. What does "cat /etc/mtab|sort" look like? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > funny thing is i already removed devfsd package > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arrrgh. > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > - > > > > Ron Johnson, Jr. > > > > Jefferson, LA USA > > > > PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefe
Re: udev problems
shoot i been replying to you only all the time and this thread never made it to the list. so now it does. :( On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:25:53 -0600, Kunjan Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ok hmm i booted with a live cd and did > > cd /mnt/hda8/dev/ > mknod -m 600 console c 5 1 > mknod -m 666 null c 1 3 > > and booted with devfs=nomount > > and still my mtab looks the same:( > > and i have udevd running and /proc/filesystems shows > "nodev devfs" > > yup my brain's fried. > > > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:33:05 -0600, Kunjan Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > the thing is i think udev and devfs are running together... coz i got > > a /.dev in root... > > > > yeah my /home is on a seperate partition. i wouldnt mind reinstalling > > its a fresh system and i have no data on it. AMD64 u know i knew it > > wasnt going to be smooth sailing ;) > > > > here's my fstab (or u can go here http://kunjan.net/fstab ) > > # /etc/fstab: static file system information. > > # > > # > > proc/proc procdefaults0 0 > > /dev/hda8 / ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 > > /dev/hda7 /boot ext3defaults0 2 > > /dev/hda9 /home ext3defaults0 2 > > /dev/hda10 noneswapsw 0 0 > > /dev/hdc/media/cdrom0 iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 > > > > and here's grep output > > CONFIG_DEVFS_FS=y > > # CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT is not set > > # CONFIG_DEVFS_DEBUG is not set > > > > i can reinstall if its required but if i can fix it i can learn a few > > new things ;) > > this is a fresh install so its cool!! > > > > Thanks a lot! > > > > Regards, > > Kunjan > > > > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:14:52 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 2004-12-22 at 11:45 -0600, Kunjan Shah wrote: > > > > here's my mtab > > > > > > > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target/lun0/part7 /boot ext3 rw 0 0 > > > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target/lun0/part8 / ext3 rw 0 0 > > > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target/lun0/part9 /home ext3 rw 0 0 > > > > devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 > > > > none /dev tmpfs rw,size=5M,mode=0755 0 0 > > > > proc /proc proc rw 0 0 > > > > sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0 > > > > tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0 > > > > usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0 > > > > > > Well, you're definitely running devfs... :( > > > > > > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target/lun0/partX this i need to change to > > > > /dev/hdaX right? > > > > > > *You* won't. Linux will, when you disable devfs. > > > > > > How the heck devfs got there in the 1st place is what I want to know. > > > > > > > what else is wrong there? > > > > > > Hmmm. It's not "wrong", its just different. (I sound s > > > Politically Correct, don't I?) > > > > > > I need you to do these 4 things: > > > > > > - Please *attach* your /etc/fstab. > > > > > > - Please tell me that your /home is on a separate partition. > > > > > > - Run this command "grep DEVFS /boot/config-$(uname -r)" > > > > > > - Steel yourself for the probability that you'll have to reinstall > > > > > > > Thanks a lot > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Kunjan > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:08:12 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2004-12-22 at 10:57 -0600, Kunjan Shah wrote: > > > > > > Well if i add devfs=nomount then the system doesnt boot. the Kernel > > > > > > says cant open /dev/console. and /dev/null. I tried creating static > > > > > > entries but since they are already in /dev i cant create them either > > > > > > > > > > > > so if i want to boot the system i have to add devfs=mount to the > > > > > > kernel args. > > > > > > > > > > Interesting. What does "cat /etc/mtab|sort" look like? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > funny thing is i already removed devfsd package > > > > > > > > > > > > arrrgh. > > > > > > > > > > Indeed. > > > > > > -- > > > - > > > Ron Johnson, Jr. > > > Jefferson, LA USA > > > PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. > > > > > > I wish the USA could get out of the UN. But a forum where > > > governments can talk is too useful. The next best thing is to > > > only pay a fraction of our dues. Or find a better forum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > - > > Kunjan Shah > > http://kunjan.net > > > > -- > - > Kunjan Shah > http://kunjan.net > -- - Kunjan Shah http://kunjan.net
Re: udev problems
On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 04:04 -0600, Kunjan Shah wrote: > Greetings, > > I dont know how to start. > > i have udev and devfs both running on my laptop... with the udev > mounting under /.dev > cant figure out what is the problem > > without that i cant get /dev/input/mice to work to get it to run x > > what could be the problem? You should not have udev & devfs active at the same time. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. Spit in one hand, and wish for peace in the other. Guess which is more effective... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
udev problems
Greetings, I dont know how to start. i have udev and devfs both running on my laptop... with the udev mounting under /.dev cant figure out what is the problem without that i cant get /dev/input/mice to work to get it to run x what could be the problem? Thanks a lot Regards, Kunjan. -- - Kunjan Shah http://kunjan.net
