Re: upgrade-dist to lenny vs. reinstall

2007-06-02 Thread Don Montgomery


OK, thanks to all who replied!

Don

On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Lennart Sorensen wrote:


Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 14:21:19 -0400
From: Lennart Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Don Montgomery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: upgrade-dist to lenny vs. reinstall
Resent-Date: Fri,  1 Jun 2007 18:21:15 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org

On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 01:40:46PM -0500, Don Montgomery wrote:

apt-get upgrade-dist has always been deprecated for amd64,
due (at least indirectly) to the fact that amd64 was not a
mainstream arch prior to etch.

Now that etch is mainstream, is upgrade-dist from etch to
lenny asking for trouble, or is it still best to do a
fresh install?  If it is OK, are there any particular
gotchas to watch out for?


Since for the most part the unofficial sarge was built from the same
sources as official sarge, I believe almost all cases could upgrade with
a simple apt-get dist-upgrade (is there an upgrade-dist option?).

Certainly from etch to lenny amd64 is no different than any other debian
architecture and of course a dist-upgrade should work.

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Len Sorensen





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Re: upgrade-dist to lenny vs. reinstall

2007-06-02 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 01:40:46PM -0500, Don Montgomery wrote:

> Now that etch is mainstream, is upgrade-dist from etch to lenny asking for 
> trouble, or is it still best to do a fresh install?  If it is OK, are there 
> any particular gotchas to watch out for?

Nothing other than the usual concerns about testing: some packages may
be broken or missing, security updates may be delayed for a long time
etc.

Gabor

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Re: upgrade-dist to lenny vs. reinstall

2007-06-01 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 01:40:46PM -0500, Don Montgomery wrote:
> Now that etch is mainstream, is upgrade-dist from etch to 
> lenny asking for trouble, or is it still best to do a 
> fresh install?  If it is OK, are there any particular 
> gotchas to watch out for?

Reinstall of Debian is never required and rarely useful. The only
exception being changes to storage layout which can be difficult to
enact later eg root on RAID and/or LVM, which the installer can
configure for you nowadays. Or filesystem attributes which can't be
added to existing volumes.

I used to have machines that had been upgraded from buzz (1.1) all the
way to at least woody (3.0). Although they could still be upgraded
they're in landfill now.

Hamish
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Re: upgrade-dist to lenny vs. reinstall

2007-06-01 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 01:40:46PM -0500, Don Montgomery wrote:
> apt-get upgrade-dist has always been deprecated for amd64, 
> due (at least indirectly) to the fact that amd64 was not a 
> mainstream arch prior to etch.
> 
> Now that etch is mainstream, is upgrade-dist from etch to 
> lenny asking for trouble, or is it still best to do a 
> fresh install?  If it is OK, are there any particular 
> gotchas to watch out for?

Since for the most part the unofficial sarge was built from the same
sources as official sarge, I believe almost all cases could upgrade with
a simple apt-get dist-upgrade (is there an upgrade-dist option?).

Certainly from etch to lenny amd64 is no different than any other debian
architecture and of course a dist-upgrade should work.

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Len Sorensen


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Re: upgrade-dist to lenny vs. reinstall

2007-06-01 Thread Don Montgomery


well, thanks for that ;-)

On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Kenward Vaughan wrote:

On Fri, 2007-06-01 at 13:40 -0500, Don Montgomery wrote:

Hello,

apt-get upgrade-dist has always been deprecated for amd64,
due (at least indirectly) to the fact that amd64 was not a
mainstream arch prior to etch.

Now that etch is mainstream, is upgrade-dist from etch to
lenny asking for trouble, or is it still best to do a
fresh install?  If it is OK, are there any particular
gotchas to watch out for?

Thanks, Don


Biggest one I know is making sure you use "dist-upgrade" rather than
"upgrade-dist" ...   ;-)

Kenward



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Re: upgrade-dist to lenny vs. reinstall

2007-06-01 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Fri, 2007-06-01 at 13:40 -0500, Don Montgomery wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> apt-get upgrade-dist has always been deprecated for amd64, 
> due (at least indirectly) to the fact that amd64 was not a 
> mainstream arch prior to etch.
> 
> Now that etch is mainstream, is upgrade-dist from etch to 
> lenny asking for trouble, or is it still best to do a 
> fresh install?  If it is OK, are there any particular 
> gotchas to watch out for?
> 
> Thanks, Don



Biggest one I know is making sure you use "dist-upgrade" rather than
"upgrade-dist" ...   ;-)


Kenward
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upgrade-dist to lenny vs. reinstall

2007-06-01 Thread Don Montgomery


Hello,

apt-get upgrade-dist has always been deprecated for amd64, 
due (at least indirectly) to the fact that amd64 was not a 
mainstream arch prior to etch.


Now that etch is mainstream, is upgrade-dist from etch to 
lenny asking for trouble, or is it still best to do a 
fresh install?  If it is OK, are there any particular 
gotchas to watch out for?


Thanks, Don

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