Re: what are the missing ports?
On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 03:16:22AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > What about "just", if possible, not buying a Turion MT32, and going > with something that has nvidia graphics? That in general is a very good idea for using Linux (at least at this time). If you want to use Linux, buy systems that are known to be compatible. ATI really isn't at this time. When nvidia releases a new driver, it supports all their chips no matter who made the device it is on, while ATI seems to want to blame laptop makers for anything that could possibly go wrong and just about don't want to offer drivers for laptop chips (claiming the laptop maker should provide those, which of course would be nice if they offered linux drivers ever), and it seems to take quite a while before a new chip is supported even by ATI's latest driver. I stopped buying ATI because their drivers seemed to have known bugs for years that they listed on their website and promised to fix in the next release real soon. Well that was the win98 drivers, and I am still waiting for that 'next release' to fix those bugs. My TNT2 on the other hand I can still get driver updates for. Open source drivers would be nice, but at least enough customer service and support to use my device for as long as I want to would be nice. nvidia provides me that, ATI doesn't. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what are the missing ports?
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 00:41:44 -0400 John Baab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > -John > > On 5/29/05, Lasse Bombien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm about to buy e Turion MT32 notebook and I will install sarge amd64 on > > it. > > However, I'm trying to find out what packages are not ported yet. The links > > below > > are appearently broken... [snip] > > The other thing is the graphics card: Ati Radeon X700. Will I have a decent > > X > > server even if I don't use Ati's proprietary driver? Is there some generic > > driver? What about "just", if possible, not buying a Turion MT32, and going with something that has nvidia graphics? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. "The man who has gotten everything he wants is all in favor of peace and order." Jawaharlal Nehru -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what are the missing ports?
I can give you the ATI driver deb package that I created. It works with the 2.6.11-9-amd68-k8 kernel image found in the apt sources. If you are using a different kernel, it more than likely will not work and you will have to create your own drivers. There are some good instructions on how to do this here: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html The generic driver is very weak compared to the official ATI drivers, though I am still having a few problems with the ATI drivers, such as vlc and totem having random blue lines in video, I cannot get snes9x to work properly (not sure if this has to do with the ATI drivers or just with the snes9x package) and the ATI drivers do some strange stuff with xinerama displays. -John On 5/29/05, Lasse Bombien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I'm about to buy e Turion MT32 notebook and I will install sarge amd64 on it. > However, I'm trying to find out what packages are not ported yet. The links > below > are appearently broken... > > The other thing is the graphics card: Ati Radeon X700. Will I have a decent X > server even if I don't use Ati's proprietary driver? Is there some generic > driver? > > Thanks, > Lasse > >Currently there is not that much to do and with the move everything is > >in some flux. The port is basically done. Multiarch can't be attacked > >with force before sarge it out and the release can't realy be hastend > >by us. > > > >There are a number of packages left that need porting but most need a > >lot of work. There are a number of packages that fail to build > >currently for which patches could be written. > > > >A good place to look would be the recent mail by Andreas (on > >debian-devel I think) about remaining amd64 issues in sarge or > > > >http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/pure64/failed-testing.txt > >http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/pure64/needs-porting.txt > >http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/pure64/failed.txt > >http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/pure64/dep-wait.txt > > > >Check the BTS for information on those packages before doing any work > >though. > > > >MfG > >Goswin > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: what are the missing ports?
On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 13:15 +0200, Lasse Bombien wrote: > Hi, > I'm about to buy e Turion MT32 notebook and I will install sarge amd64 on it. > However, I'm trying to find out what packages are not ported yet. The links > below > are appearently broken... > > The other thing is the graphics card: Ati Radeon X700. Will I have a decent X > server even if I don't use Ati's proprietary driver? Is there some generic > driver? Hi, I don't know whether the X.Org or XFree86 drivers work with the X700, although I suspect they are fine, but I do know that ATI's proprietary driver does not support suspend / resume, and so can be a pain on a laptop. See question ID 218 on the ATI site (Advanced Search, "by ID"...). Unfortunately ATI's website now sucks even more than it used to, and deep linking appears to be impossible... :-( Regards, Andrew McMillan. - Andrew @ Catalyst .Net .NZ Ltd, PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington WEB: http://catalyst.net.nz/PHYS: Level 2, 150-154 Willis St DDI: +64(4)803-2201 MOB: +64(272)DEBIAN OFFICE: +64(4)499-2267 A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds -- Shaw - signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: what are the missing ports?
On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 01:15:49PM +0200, Lasse Bombien wrote: > Hi, > I'm about to buy e Turion MT32 notebook and I will install sarge amd64 on it. > However, I'm trying to find out what packages are not ported yet. The links > below > are appearently broken... > > The other thing is the graphics card: Ati Radeon X700. Will I have a decent X > server even if I don't use Ati's proprietary driver? Is there some generic > driver? If you check the archives of the mailing list, someone did try to package up the ATI drivers for amd64 port, so you may be able to just use those to install the drivers on your system. At least the X700 is listed as supported in those drivers. There is a generic radeon driver which supports some radeons, but of course only in 2D for the most part. It does not support all radeons though (I have had no luck with the one in a new Dell laptop someone got at work. It works if I load the radeonfb driver and use fb X driver. Text mode does not work on the radeonfb driver though (only shows the cursor) which I find rather odd. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
what are the missing ports?
Hi, I'm about to buy e Turion MT32 notebook and I will install sarge amd64 on it. However, I'm trying to find out what packages are not ported yet. The links below are appearently broken... The other thing is the graphics card: Ati Radeon X700. Will I have a decent X server even if I don't use Ati's proprietary driver? Is there some generic driver? Thanks, Lasse >Currently there is not that much to do and with the move everything is >in some flux. The port is basically done. Multiarch can't be attacked >with force before sarge it out and the release can't realy be hastend >by us. > >There are a number of packages left that need porting but most need a >lot of work. There are a number of packages that fail to build >currently for which patches could be written. > >A good place to look would be the recent mail by Andreas (on >debian-devel I think) about remaining amd64 issues in sarge or > >http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/pure64/failed-testing.txt >http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/pure64/needs-porting.txt >http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/pure64/failed.txt >http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/pure64/dep-wait.txt > >Check the BTS for information on those packages before doing any work >though. > >MfG >Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
