Re: Schedule power on QNAP TS-110
* Paul van der Vlis p...@vandervlis.nl [2010-02-02 09:35]: I found you can normally configure this with: /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm When I search on the filename and arm there are many hits. I think it works with arm too... Or have you tested it? (I don't have an ARM at the moment) Every RTC driver needs to implement wakealarm and the one used on the QNAP machines doesn't implement it. From a brief look at some other drivers, it shouldn't be too hard though. I mailed some kernel people now asking if they want to implement it but maybe there are also some volunteers on this list? -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 8.9 CT-PC89E ARM netbook .... UPDATE 04 FEB 2010 12:00
Add my voice to the chorus looking for greater amounts of RAM. I am going to use this as a dev system for other ARM/Linux devices, and the more RAM the better. If the RAM is not socketed, I would happily pay extra for 512MB, or 1024MB, or whatever. On Thu, 4 Feb 2010, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: ok, just an update for people: adam's now in china and is staying there until saturday: communication will be sporadic skype from internet cafes and last resort phone calls. he's got enough money to put down the 50% deposit, which he shouuuld have done by now: this helps the factory to go out and pay cash for the LCD panels :) in talking to adam last night, we had 15 already and he was just going to go heck i'll get 20 and sell the remaining ones in nepal so that miiight leave enough room for the 3 or more people already and anyone else who contact us late to get one too. we've had 6 requests for 512mb RAM so we'll pass that on to the factory, see if they can either do that or if there's an SODIMM socket. let's hope it's an SODIMM, cos then people can buy their own memory upgrades. as this is a completely new system for the factory, it's a bit of a learning curve for everyone: i don't think they were expecting geeks to be interested, which is the whole damn point! i'm a bit annoyed by the general thinking that ARM != PC quality so this is kinda an important message to get across to factories: _yes_ people want standard laptops and netbooks, with loads of RAM etc. just with an ARM CPU, damnit! :) i have to say that i've been a bit caught by surprise at the interest, so thank you to everyone who's still with us, even if it's a bit chaotic. i'll keep people posted as i hear from adam, who is probably wandering around the markets now, looking for $2 webcams, dirt-cheap USB GPS dongles and other dreadful junk :) l. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 8.9 CT-PC89E ARM netbook .... UPDATE 04 FEB 2010 12:00
ok, just an update for people: adam's now in china and is staying there until saturday: communication will be sporadic skype from internet cafes and last resort phone calls. he's got enough money to put down the 50% deposit, which he shouuuld have done by now: this helps the factory to go out and pay cash for the LCD panels :) in talking to adam last night, we had 15 already and he was just going to go heck i'll get 20 and sell the remaining ones in nepal so that miiight leave enough room for the 3 or more people already and anyone else who contact us late to get one too. we've had 6 requests for 512mb RAM so we'll pass that on to the factory, see if they can either do that or if there's an SODIMM socket. let's hope it's an SODIMM, cos then people can buy their own memory upgrades. as this is a completely new system for the factory, it's a bit of a learning curve for everyone: i don't think they were expecting geeks to be interested, which is the whole damn point! i'm a bit annoyed by the general thinking that ARM != PC quality so this is kinda an important message to get across to factories: _yes_ people want standard laptops and netbooks, with loads of RAM etc. just with an ARM CPU, damnit! :) i have to say that i've been a bit caught by surprise at the interest, so thank you to everyone who's still with us, even if it's a bit chaotic. i'll keep people posted as i hear from adam, who is probably wandering around the markets now, looking for $2 webcams, dirt-cheap USB GPS dongles and other dreadful junk :) l. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: d-i on SheevaPlug issue
* Marko Jung marko.j...@oucs.ox.ac.uk [2010-01-25 17:27]: http://[[user][:pa...@]host[:port]/;. HTTP proxy information (blank for none): Prompt: '?' for help Checking the Debian archive mirror ..25%..50%..75%..100%..200% Segmentation fauSegmentation fauSegmentation fauSegmentation fauSegmentation fauSegmentation fauSegmentation fauSegmentation fauSegmentation fauSegmentation fauSegmentation fauSegmentation fauSegmentation fauSegmentation fauSegmentation fauSegmentation fauSegmentation fauSegmentation fauSegmentation fauSegmentation fauSegmentation fauSegmentation fauSegmentation fauSegmentation fauSegmentation ---8-- Maybe there is an older, working image? Any other hints? I can reproduce this. I'll file a bug. In the meantime, the workaround is not to use DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Schedule power on QNAP TS-110
* Marc Pignat marc.pig...@hevs.ch [2010-02-04 13:26]: This function depends on hardware... The RTC chip should have an alarm *pin* connected to the power supply in order to wake up by the alarm. Yes, but the TS-11x/TS-21x hardware has this capability. The older TS-10x/TS-20x do not. -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 8.9 CT-PC89E ARM netbook .... UPDATE 04 FEB 2010 12:00
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 07:20:55AM -0500, JLB wrote: Add my voice to the chorus looking for greater amounts of RAM. I am going to use this as a dev system for other ARM/Linux devices, and the more RAM the better. If the RAM is not socketed, I would happily pay extra for 512MB, or 1024MB, or whatever. I belive the S3C6410 is limited to 256MiB max, you'll have to start looking for different ARM devices for more RAM. On Thu, 4 Feb 2010, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: ok, just an update for people: adam's now in china and is staying there until saturday: communication will be sporadic skype from internet cafes and last resort phone calls. he's got enough money to put down the 50% deposit, which he shouuuld have done by now: this helps the factory to go out and pay cash for the LCD panels :) in talking to adam last night, we had 15 already and he was just going to go heck i'll get 20 and sell the remaining ones in nepal so that miiight leave enough room for the 3 or more people already and anyone else who contact us late to get one too. we've had 6 requests for 512mb RAM so we'll pass that on to the factory, see if they can either do that or if there's an SODIMM socket. let's hope it's an SODIMM, cos then people can buy their own memory upgrades. as this is a completely new system for the factory, it's a bit of a learning curve for everyone: i don't think they were expecting geeks to be interested, which is the whole damn point! i'm a bit annoyed by the general thinking that ARM != PC quality so this is kinda an important message to get across to factories: _yes_ people want standard laptops and netbooks, with loads of RAM etc. just with an ARM CPU, damnit! :) i have to say that i've been a bit caught by surprise at the interest, so thank you to everyone who's still with us, even if it's a bit chaotic. i'll keep people posted as i hear from adam, who is probably wandering around the markets now, looking for $2 webcams, dirt-cheap USB GPS dongles and other dreadful junk :) l. -- -- Ben Q: What's a light-year? A: One-third less calories than a regular year. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 2nd try: Thermaltake Muse NAS-RAID (N0001LN) - IOP architecture - HELP requested
Hi All, and sorry for my belated reply but a work-related trip has brought me away. 1. to Arnaud: I'll provide you (and the list) with those info ASAP. Let's hope we can get something started. Thank you! 2. to JFS: I had read Martin's pages, rather thoroughly, but still I'm wary of following those steps blindly. A good approach would be to understand what are the specs of the platform I have in my hand. I'll use your pointers are a reference though. Thanks! Please bear with me since I'm 1000's of miles away from home (and my NAS) this week :) Thanks, Carmelo On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:50 PM, JF Straeten jfstrae...@scarlet.be wrote: Hi, On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 06:34:09PM +0100, Arnaud Patard wrote: It seems pretty similar to the Intel SS400-E... fwiw, I doubt it's a ss4000e. Lanner has put 32MB of flash and 2 GbE on their PCB. So, it's seems to you impossible to boot the d-i on it ? What will be needed to succeed ? A+ -- JFS. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Thecus N2100 installation fails
Hi All, I bought an used N2100 at the bay, and tried to install Debian, following Martin Michlmayr's great instructions, but I fail. After uploading the Debian firmware it prompts for the reboot, but does not come up again. Also, the LEDs stop flashing after Redboot tried to load the OS (that's a guess in fact). Thats fine, its a sign that the kernel indeed boots, but seems to stuck somewhere else, for example the network config? First thought is that LAN is not up or you expecting another IP address. Is the network LED blinking during boot? Can you use a network sniffer to see if dhcp packages are exchanged? Nmap'ed your LAN? I think I had these issues as well when I installed my box, so I used a local dhcp server to see the exchange of the packages. I wrote also a howto that time: http://blog.coldtobi.de/1_coldtobis_blog/archive/166_installing_debian_on_the_thecus_n2100_--_part_1_--_preparation_for_install.html Just another thought: Which LAN connection are you using. I am unsure if anything else than LAN1 will work. I tried every available Debian firmware, even the Etch one, which at least gives me flashing LEDs, but still no SSH connection. I tried static and DHCP network configuration, but it does not seem to get to the network initialization. In earlier kernels, the handling of the LEDs was not supported, so the orange one remains blinking. I am not sure if the network configuration used by the original firmware will be used with the debian installer.. Could be that for a static setup, it will use 192.168.0.100 (or so... see my howto). I used official firmware 2.01.09 and 2.01.10, which run very well, but installing Debian does not work. I would like to try an older official Thecus firmware, but the oldest one I can find is 2.01.09. At least the device itself seems to be ok, as the stock firmwares don't give me any errors. As you are replacing the firmware, it is gone with the flashing of the installer. Therefore, it is independent of the original version. With very old firmware you cannot access RedBoot over ethernet, but that is the only difference I'm aware of. Maybe someone has a hint for me, or an older official firmware available so I can try it? Did someone experience the same, or similar problems? Unfortunately I don't have a serial connection, so I cannot give further debugging information. If you got a change to get one of these USB-serial adapters, this will probably will really help finding the problem. (They are only a few bucks though and might be handy if at a later time something is wrong -- for example my box once did an hickup as fsck thought it has found an corruption due last mounted in the future waiting for a desperate Yes) I am deeply grateful for every reply, as I don't have a clue what's wrong. -- Greetings, Kai In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 8.9 CT-PC89E ARM netbook .... UPDATE 04 FEB 2010 12:00
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Ben Dooks ben-li...@fluff.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 07:20:55AM -0500, JLB wrote: Add my voice to the chorus looking for greater amounts of RAM. I am going to use this as a dev system for other ARM/Linux devices, and the more RAM the better. If the RAM is not socketed, I would happily pay extra for 512MB, or 1024MB, or whatever. I belive the S3C6410 is limited to 256MiB max, you'll have to start looking for different ARM devices for more RAM. ahhh, drat - thank you for letting us know. ok, so the 833mhz S5PC100 (ARM Cortex A8) which takes DDR2 ram anyway. l. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 8.9 CT-PC89E ARM netbook .... UPDATE 04 FEB 2010 12:00
i don't think they were expecting geeks to be interested, which is the whole damn point! i'm a bit annoyed by the general thinking that ARM != PC quality so this is kinda an important message to get across to factories: _yes_ people want standard laptops and netbooks, with loads of RAM etc. just with an ARM CPU, damnit! :) been engineering samples... what about the UART, serial port (even 2 pins help a lot) and jtag reachability? =) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 8.9 CT-PC89E ARM netbook .... UPDATE 04 FEB 2010 12:00
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 02:11:20PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Ben Dooks ben-li...@fluff.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 07:20:55AM -0500, JLB wrote: Add my voice to the chorus looking for greater amounts of RAM. I am going to use this as a dev system for other ARM/Linux devices, and the more RAM the better. If the RAM is not socketed, I would happily pay extra for 512MB, or 1024MB, or whatever. I belive the S3C6410 is limited to 256MiB max, you'll have to start looking for different ARM devices for more RAM. ahhh, drat - thank you for letting us know. ok, so the 833mhz S5PC100 (ARM Cortex A8) which takes DDR2 ram anyway. The boxen that we are getting use DDR1 RAM -- DDR1 is now more expensive than DDR2 -- to do with volume I suppose. -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 http://www.phcomp.co.uk/ Parliament Hill Computers Ltd. Registration Information: http://www.phcomp.co.uk/contact.php Past chairman of UKUUG: http://www.ukuug.org/ #include std_disclaimer.h -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 8.9 CT-PC89E ARM netbook .... UPDATE 04 FEB 2010 12:00
Hi ! 2010/2/4 Alejandro Mery am...@geeks.cl: been engineering samples... what about the UART, serial port (even 2 pins help a lot) and jtag reachability? =) That's an important part. :-) Let me explain our experience. A bunch of Debian Developers met at Taipei (.tw) and we got a netbook (MIPS based) under $100. After we got it, we had *no shell*, *no root*, *no loader access*, *no serial*,... We had to exploit a vulnerability in the pdf reader order to start telnetd and we were lucky to get a remote shell. After making some pressure to the company to release source code because they were violating GPL, they putted up some source packages, but not kernel (linux), nor bootloader (uboot). This device has really nice price, but its openness really sucks. Be aware on what you buy, always make sure it really supports open source. The laptop I am talking about is http://www.g-netbook.com/GL-740I.html I would not recommend to anyone to buy it. In the case of ARM netbooks, I have been reading on the 'Always innovating Touchbook' based on the beagleboard (OMAP3) http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/home/index.htm Cheers, -- Héctor Orón Our Sun unleashes tremendous flares expelling hot gas into the Solar System, which one day will disconnect us. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 8.9 CT-PC89E ARM netbook .... UPDATE 04 FEB 2010 12:00
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Alejandro Mery am...@geeks.cl wrote: i don't think they were expecting geeks to be interested, which is the whole damn point! i'm a bit annoyed by the general thinking that ARM != PC quality so this is kinda an important message to get across to factories: _yes_ people want standard laptops and netbooks, with loads of RAM etc. just with an ARM CPU, damnit! :) been engineering samples... what about the UART, serial port (even 2 pins help a lot) and jtag reachability? =) alejandro, i'm really sorry but they just weren't expecting engineering-types to be interested: they've written out translation probably of chinese specifications handed to them by a customer, most likely from a special order of 50,000 units or something, we _just_ don't know at this stage. basically when i get mine i'll immediately dismantle it and post photos, but by ... well... almost already and definitely by tomorrow, the window of opportunity to get these at cost (and get them this month) will have passed. fortunately we know that they have a chinese version of gOS on it (2.6.24 kernel), already, otherwise i simply would not be bothering _at_ all, and certainly wouldn't have sent the message to debian-arm initially. l. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 8.9 CT-PC89E ARM netbook .... UPDATE 04 FEB 2010 12:00
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Alain Williams a...@phcomp.co.uk wrote: The boxen that we are getting use DDR1 RAM -- DDR1 is now more expensive than DDR2 -- to do with volume I suppose. basically, yes. ironically, the listed price of a Cortex A8 833mhz samsung S5PC100 ($14.50) plus even as little as 128mb of DDR2 RAM is _less_ than the price of the ARM11 S3C6410 ($11) with 128mb of DDR1 RAM. but, with the hold that samsung has over apple due to its near-exclusive use in the iphone 3G, i think it's safe to say that samsung is playing power games right now and is waiting to see what happens. if they make their own iphone killer then whoopsie, there will be a fire at a factory somewhere in korea, o dear mr apple we can't supply you the S5PC100, the core component of your phone this month. so, everybody has to wait until the power games are over before they can get S5PC100 CPUs, probably in the form of apple redesigning the iphone 3G to use their own brand spanking new 1ghz A4 they're using in the (already flopped) iPad. l. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 8.9 CT-PC89E ARM netbook .... UPDATE 04 FEB 2010 12:00
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Hector Oron hector.o...@gmail.com wrote: Hi ! 2010/2/4 Alejandro Mery am...@geeks.cl: been engineering samples... what about the UART, serial port (even 2 pins help a lot) and jtag reachability? =) That's an important part. :-) Let me explain our experience. A bunch of Debian Developers met at Taipei (.tw) and we got a netbook (MIPS based) under $100. After we got it, we had *no shell*, *no root*, *no loader access*, *no serial*,... We had to exploit a vulnerability in the pdf reader order to start telnetd and we were lucky to get a remote shell. After making some pressure to the company to release source code because they were violating GPL, they putted up some source packages, but not kernel (linux), nor bootloader (uboot). ouch! *sigh* yes, a chinese MIPS cpu, whilst wonderfully cheap, reverse-engineering - i've done it: i have 9 HTC Linux phones and one ETEN G500+ to prove it - is a complete pain. i'm not doing it again :) so, this time we play a different game: use the fact that of the 20 people wanting machines _fifteen_ of them are software engineers who will happily help this factory to improve its value for the world market by getting debian packages on it, right? :) This device has really nice price, but its openness really sucks. Be aware on what you buy, always make sure it really supports open source. that's why adam's going along with his phone, laptop and a webcam and skype. we can definitely see from the photo that it has a swirly G and from that we're guessing it's gOS, converted to chinese. The laptop I am talking about is http://www.g-netbook.com/GL-740I.html I would not recommend to anyone to buy it. okaaay, thaat's what the Ingenic CPUs are, i wondered what those numbers were. 4720 etc. ok, they're MIPS processors. yes. USB 1.1. SDRAM. 366mhz CPU. wouldn't touch it. or, more specifically: i'm looking in a different kind of price-range and a different kind of feature-set. between adam and i we must have looked at over 300 systems over the past few months. In the case of ARM netbooks, I have been reading on the 'Always innovating Touchbook' based on the beagleboard (OMAP3) http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/home/index.htm yes! very nice machine, i know the hardware designer - really quiet guy. the touchbook is more expensive so as to give them a good safety margin. and the OMAP3530 CPU on its own is $35 even in 1k volumes! add $20 for 256mb POP memory and you start to see why the price is $USD 299. i've spent absolutely damn months looking for systems like this and they are juust starting to crawl out the woodwork. l. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 8.9 CT-PC89E ARM netbook .... UPDATE 04 FEB 2010 12:00
Ben == Ben Dooks ben-li...@fluff.org writes: Ben On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 07:20:55AM -0500, JLB wrote: Add my voice to the chorus looking for greater amounts of RAM. I am going to use this as a dev system for other ARM/Linux devices, and the more RAM the better. If the RAM is not socketed, I would happily pay extra for 512MB, or 1024MB, or whatever. Ben I belive the S3C6410 is limited to 256MiB max, you'll have to start Ben looking for different ARM devices for more RAM. It's afaik 256MB per chip select, and the s3c6410 has 2 - But yeah. -- Bye, Peter Korsgaard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 8.9 CT-PC89E ARM netbook .... UPDATE 04 FEB 2010 12:00
Hi, 2010/2/4 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton luke.leigh...@googlemail.com: Let me explain our experience. A bunch of Debian Developers met at Taipei (.tw) and we got a netbook (MIPS based) under $100. After we got it, we had *no shell*, *no root*, *no loader access*, *no serial*,... We had to exploit a vulnerability in the pdf reader order to start telnetd and we were lucky to get a remote shell. After making some pressure to the company to release source code because they were violating GPL, they putted up some source packages, but not kernel (linux), nor bootloader (uboot). ouch! *sigh* yes, a chinese MIPS cpu, whilst wonderfully cheap, reverse-engineering - i've done it: i have 9 HTC Linux phones and one ETEN G500+ to prove it - is a complete pain. i'm not doing it again :) so, this time we play a different game: use the fact that of the 20 people wanting machines _fifteen_ of them are software engineers who will happily help this factory to improve its value for the world market by getting debian packages on it, right? That was our main argument, but they did not listen to us. After lots of mails and advising gpl-violations.org we got a package source release which we did not want as we already had our debian packages for the rootfs. Kernel and loader still missing bits. -- Héctor Orón Our Sun unleashes tremendous flares expelling hot gas into the Solar System, which one day will disconnect us. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Re: Thecus N2100 installation fails
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 02:42:29PM +0100, Tobias Frost wrote: Hi All, I bought an used N2100 at the bay, and tried to install Debian, following Martin Michlmayr's great instructions, but I fail. After uploading the Debian firmware it prompts for the reboot, but does not come up again. Also, the LEDs stop flashing after Redboot tried to load the OS (that's a guess in fact). Thats fine, its a sign that the kernel indeed boots, but seems to stuck somewhere else, for example the network config? First thought is that LAN is not up or you expecting another IP address. Is the network LED blinking during boot? Can you use a network sniffer to see if dhcp packages are exchanged? Nmap'ed your LAN? Yes I nmap'ed 192.168.1.0/24, as this is the subnet my DHCP server is in (stock Linksys WAG200G). I configured the box with a static IP 192.168.1.100, and believed it would keep this configuration. Also, after a few seconds all LEDs stop flashing. When I am home, I will sniff for DHCP traffic. I think I had these issues as well when I installed my box, so I used a local dhcp server to see the exchange of the packages. I wrote also a howto that time: http://blog.coldtobi.de/1_coldtobis_blog/archive/166_installing_debian_on_the_thecus_n2100_--_part_1_--_preparation_for_install.html Great howto, thank you! Why didn't I find it earlier? But what's puzzling me is that you've written: ACPI events are catched by the installer, so the power button works. It is definately not working for me, so maybe that's a hint, that the kernel actually does not boot. Just another thought: Which LAN connection are you using. I am unsure if anything else than LAN1 will work. I am using LAN port 1. I used official firmware 2.01.09 and 2.01.10, which run very well, but installing Debian does not work. I would like to try an older official Thecus firmware, but the oldest one I can find is 2.01.09. At least the device itself seems to be ok, as the stock firmwares don't give me any errors. As you are replacing the firmware, it is gone with the flashing of the installer. Therefore, it is independent of the original version. With very old firmware you cannot access RedBoot over ethernet, but that is the only difference I'm aware of. OK, makes sense. So this is not the problem. Maybe someone has a hint for me, or an older official firmware available so I can try it? Did someone experience the same, or similar problems? Unfortunately I don't have a serial connection, so I cannot give further debugging information. If you got a change to get one of these USB-serial adapters, this will probably will really help finding the problem. (They are only a few bucks though and might be handy if at a later time something is wrong -- for example my box once did an hickup as fsck thought it has found an corruption due last mounted in the future waiting for a desperate Yes) I have a serial port on my computer, that's not the problem, but soldering the pins on my N2100. ;-) -- Greetings, Kai In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Fwd: 8.9 CT-PC89E ARM netbook .... UPDATE 04 FEB 2010 22.10
hi folks this is from adam a few hours ago. it's very exciting, esp. for me to hear that it was china telecom that initially commissioned the design, because that means a 3G modem was part of the initial requirements! but bless 'em the smaller volumes right now they just haven't been able to get the purchasing power, to get the lower-cost LCDs. basically as it's very new to them they really need our help and want our feedback, to make it a better product, which is why they're happy to put engineers on the task of modifying them. i can guess what they're doing: they're having to create a small circuit to power the backlight on the LCD: all LCD panels are different, damn it. then they will redesign the PCB to incorporate the new circuit... but not right now! :) so, i think we have quite a lot of leverage: let's hope that china telecom actually gave them the linux source code rather than just dropped a hairy binary tarball in their laps and let them get on with it. i've asked adam to find out if the 3G modem socket is a PCI-e: there are several USB-based 3G PCI-e modems out there, some of them even with GPS. i bought an adapter a few months ago: http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/USBMA.html so i know that these PCI-e 3G modems are actually USB modems NOT repeat NOT gigabit-PCIe x1 or x4 or whatever. and it _juuust_ so happens that i've been negotiating for several weeks with a huawei 3G PCI-e modem supplier... :) so this could actually turn out to be an incredibly exciting little machine - we'll just have to see how it goes. ok enough from me. please forgive adam not being technical, he's learning what to look out for as he goes along. l. -- Forwarded message -- From: Adam Gill madal...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 3:45 PM Subject: Re: 8.9 CT-PC89E ARM netbook UPDATE 04 FEB 2010 22.10 To: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton luke.leigh...@googlemail.com Hi Luke , please forward I see there's a lot of emails coming through now - you need 25 netbooks now? - I'll check tomorrow but I think may not be possible as I will be getting the 20 pcs on Tuesday now. They are full on testing these netbooks and I think we are lucky to get them before Chinese New Year All the PayPal stuff I'll do on Saturday. We are really the first of two customers . so we are really in at the beginning. Apparently, they say this netbook was first made by another factory for China Telecom and so from my understanding - they have taken bits from the original 8.9 CT netbook and made a fusion with the 7000E with their own sourced display. The engineers have been making their own hand soldered PCBA to make the correct connection for the display with the motherboard. I have taken photos of all the interesting bits etc and I will email these on Sat ... Observations other comments: 1. Web browsing not bad 2. WiFi easily connects 3. 2 x USB 4. Mini LAN connection 5. A mini USB but to me it looks like a mini VGA as the monitor symbol was next to this slot 6. 3G sim card slot - the slots are on the motherboard if you want to add a 3G module 7. 3.5mm Audio Mic slot 8. Mic on the keyboard surface 9. The power charger will be the US style as its the lightest as we are right on the limit for weight 10. If you want to upgrade to 512 RAM they say it can be done for a few US$ more - and will do with larger orders 11. SO-DIMM - I asked about this - still waiting for answer from engineer 12. I tried to connect my Nokia 5800 via USB to the netbook to make a GPRS dial up connection *99# . I was almost connected via the network configuration they have!! .. but not enough time to focus on this ... 13. The web cam slot does not have a camera in it but it will - all the configuration is for a web cam - not enough time right now!! They said it is possible to include the web cam in the unit cost in future if larger quantities are ordered. 14. Innolux display - I asked again for the model number - but they could not give me the part no. 15. Software - there are some basic programs there, enough to get started 16. The battery is short life with full screen light - but you can down the light quite low to save battery life ... All in all I was much more impressed than I was expecting - I don't like their version of Linux - I will try to install another once I get my two net books .. The factory is interested in getting feedback and how to improve this netbook. So please give me a list when you all have had a good going over it! Cheers! Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 8.9 CT-PC89E ARM netbook .... UPDATE 04 FEB 2010 12:00
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Hector Oron hector.o...@gmail.com wrote: so, this time we play a different game: use the fact that of the 20 people wanting machines _fifteen_ of them are software engineers who will happily help this factory to improve its value for the world market by getting debian packages on it, right? That was our main argument, but they did not listen to us. After lots of mails and advising gpl-violations.org we got a package source release which we did not want as we already had our debian packages for the rootfs. Kernel and loader still missing bits. i think - i hope! - that this is different. see new update, but it turns out that this is a design commissioned by china telecom, and also because it's so new they've actually asked for our help and feedback. it _may_ be the case that we have to go after china telecom for the source code (which will be fuuun) if they didn't give it to the factory. but if china telecom are going to be bloody awkward, stuff it: last resort i'll do the damn reverse-engineering myself, or i'll find people willing to help. it's a well-known CPU, so it should be ok. ... heck, we could end up producing a debian image for them that ends up as the default image! :) l. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Fwd: 8.9 CT-PC89E ARM netbook .... UPDATE 04 FEB 2010 22.10
*thumbs up for this* This is so geeky it is really heartwarming to just read it I didn't order one as I am low on cash but I hope this will pave a great future for affordable mobile open devices. karsten Am Donnerstag, 4. Februar 2010 18:12:15 schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton: hi folks this is from adam a few hours ago. it's very exciting, esp. for me to hear that it was china telecom that initially commissioned the design, because that means a 3G modem was part of the initial requirements! but bless 'em the smaller volumes right now they just haven't been able to get the purchasing power, to get the lower-cost LCDs. basically as it's very new to them they really need our help and want our feedback, to make it a better product, which is why they're happy to put engineers on the task of modifying them. i can guess what they're doing: they're having to create a small circuit to power the backlight on the LCD: all LCD panels are different, damn it. then they will redesign the PCB to incorporate the new circuit... but not right now! :) so, i think we have quite a lot of leverage: let's hope that china telecom actually gave them the linux source code rather than just dropped a hairy binary tarball in their laps and let them get on with it. i've asked adam to find out if the 3G modem socket is a PCI-e: there are several USB-based 3G PCI-e modems out there, some of them even with GPS. i bought an adapter a few months ago: http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/USBMA.html so i know that these PCI-e 3G modems are actually USB modems NOT repeat NOT gigabit-PCIe x1 or x4 or whatever. and it _juuust_ so happens that i've been negotiating for several weeks with a huawei 3G PCI-e modem supplier... :) so this could actually turn out to be an incredibly exciting little machine - we'll just have to see how it goes. ok enough from me. please forgive adam not being technical, he's learning what to look out for as he goes along. l. -- Forwarded message -- From: Adam Gill madal...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 3:45 PM Subject: Re: 8.9 CT-PC89E ARM netbook UPDATE 04 FEB 2010 22.10 To: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton luke.leigh...@googlemail.com Hi Luke , please forward I see there's a lot of emails coming through now - you need 25 netbooks now? - I'll check tomorrow but I think may not be possible as I will be getting the 20 pcs on Tuesday now. They are full on testing these netbooks and I think we are lucky to get them before Chinese New Year All the PayPal stuff I'll do on Saturday. We are really the first of two customers . so we are really in at the beginning. Apparently, they say this netbook was first made by another factory for China Telecom and so from my understanding - they have taken bits from the original 8.9 CT netbook and made a fusion with the 7000E with their own sourced display. The engineers have been making their own hand soldered PCBA to make the correct connection for the display with the motherboard. I have taken photos of all the interesting bits etc and I will email these on Sat ... Observations other comments: 1. Web browsing not bad 2. WiFi easily connects 3. 2 x USB 4. Mini LAN connection 5. A mini USB but to me it looks like a mini VGA as the monitor symbol was next to this slot 6. 3G sim card slot - the slots are on the motherboard if you want to add a 3G module 7. 3.5mm Audio Mic slot 8. Mic on the keyboard surface 9. The power charger will be the US style as its the lightest as we are right on the limit for weight 10. If you want to upgrade to 512 RAM they say it can be done for a few US$ more - and will do with larger orders 11. SO-DIMM - I asked about this - still waiting for answer from engineer 12. I tried to connect my Nokia 5800 via USB to the netbook to make a GPRS dial up connection *99# . I was almost connected via the network configuration they have!! .. but not enough time to focus on this ... 13. The web cam slot does not have a camera in it but it will - all the configuration is for a web cam - not enough time right now!! They said it is possible to include the web cam in the unit cost in future if larger quantities are ordered. 14. Innolux display - I asked again for the model number - but they could not give me the part no. 15. Software - there are some basic programs there, enough to get started 16. The battery is short life with full screen light - but you can down the light quite low to save battery life ... All in all I was much more impressed than I was expecting - I don't like their version of Linux - I will try to install another once I get my two net books .. The factory is interested in getting feedback and how to improve this netbook. So please give me a list when you all have had a good going over it! Cheers! Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to
Re: Fwd: 8.9 CT-PC89E ARM netbook .... UPDATE 04 FEB 2010 22.10
2010/2/4 Karsten König re...@gmx.net: *thumbs up for this* This is so geeky it is really heartwarming to just read it :) I didn't order one as I am low on cash but I hope this will pave a great future for affordable mobile open devices. achh, that's _so_ the plan. i'm hoping to get the prices down on 3G modems, but last resort a USB 3G dongle is a viable option, you can get them on PAYG at tescos etc. for goodness sake: i'm using one (right now, but also for about 8 months). l. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
