Re: Suggestions for a SheevaPlug replacement
On 28/03/11 05:57, Sander wrote: [...] An OpenRD-Ultimate might be something for you: http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-35-openrd-ultimate.aspx I see the price has come down --- they're now only about 250% the price of a SheevaPlug... but yeah, one of these would be ideal. Lots of ports and a nice case, and only a bit more expensive that a DreamPlug. I also note that there's a SheevaPlug with eSATA, and it's at about the same price as the original SheevaPlug. Now, if only this had two ethernet ports... [...] I've ordered a PandaBoard which is dual core, has 1GB RAM and should work with the armhf port of Debian. Should be at least twice as fast as the SheevaPlug/OpenRD. Unfortunately it has no eSata and only 3x USB, so that might not be an option for your. Oo. *Very* nice! As you say, no eSata and it's only got one ethernet port, but the dual-core Cortex A9 is extremely yummy. If only there was a version in the OpenRD form factor... -- ┌─── ｄｇ＠ｃｏｗｌａｒｋ．ｃｏｍ ─ http://www.cowlark.com ─ │ I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my │ telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out │ how to use my telephone. --- Bjarne Stroustrup signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Suggestions for a SheevaPlug replacement
David Given d...@cowlark.com writes: On 28/03/11 05:57, Sander wrote: [...] An OpenRD-Ultimate might be something for you: http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-35-openrd-ultimate.aspx I see the price has come down --- they're now only about 250% the price of a SheevaPlug... but yeah, one of these would be ideal. Lots of ports and a nice case, and only a bit more expensive that a DreamPlug. I also note that there's a SheevaPlug with eSATA, and it's at about the same price as the original SheevaPlug. Now, if only this had two ethernet ports... you have guruplugs server which has 2 ethernets and esata. One can nearly say that dreamplug is some kind of evolution of guruplug servers. Arnaud -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ipv2rtbh@lebrac.rtp-net.org
Re: Suggestions for a SheevaPlug replacement
+++ David Given [2011-03-26 18:35 +]: On 26/03/11 17:07, Phil Endecott wrote: [...] David, if you want to be realistic, you'll find that in almost all cases small size, ARM, and even low performance are things that you should expect to pay a premium for. For fun you can try to factor in the reduction in your electricity bill, but normally the small x86 (i.e. Atom) box will still be cheaper. Well, the R3700 consumes (they say) about 25W when running, which is about 20W more than the SheevaPlug --- so over a year, the R3700 consumes about 200 kWh compared to the SheevaPlug's 40. I pay about 10p per kWh, so this means that the relative running costs are 20 pounds vs 4... _per year_, so if you use it for say 3 years that justifies an extra 50 quid. The longer you use it the more you save :-). And 10p/kWh is very cheap. I'm paying 14p/kWh (flat rate), and power is not going to get cheaper. (And actually it would be 22 quid all year @10p). At 14p/kWh you can spend an extra 74 quid over 3 years. Of course in practice disk power consumption matters here (my slug is 2W, the disk 10W), and sleep mode/power save behaviour is much more important than the headline power consumption when getting an annual energy use figure. Wall-warts too (where applicable). On some devices the wall wart uses more than the arm box attached to it. Personally I just couldn't bring myself to have a 24/7 server that used 25W+disk, no matter how cheap it is, because I know how unecessary that is, and I think energy consumption matters. Just pay the money for the cool stuff :-) You know you want to. :-) Wookey -- Principal hats: Linaro, Emdebian, Wookware, Balloonboard, ARM http://wookware.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110329130827.gm17...@dream.aleph1.co.uk
Re: Suggestions for a SheevaPlug replacement
On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 14:42 +0200, Arnaud Patard wrote: David Given d...@cowlark.com writes: [...] I also note that there's a SheevaPlug with eSATA, and it's at about the same price as the original SheevaPlug. Now, if only this had two ethernet ports... you have guruplugs server which has 2 ethernets and esata. One can nearly say that dreamplug is some kind of evolution of guruplug servers. I wouldn't recommend the Guruplug, the fan sounds like an electric razor and too loud and annoying to want to be in the same room as it. I removed the fan and power supply, but ended up junking it anyway as I couldn't get it to boot reliably from the MMC card. (The MMC controller is on the end of a USB bus.) I stuck to using my eSata SheevaPlug when I realised I could run a firewall with only one ethernet port. [1] [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/02/msg01207.html -- Tixy () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign (www.asciiribbon.org) /\ Against HTML e-mail and proprietary attachments -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1301406178.2519.141.ca...@computer2.home
Re: Suggestions for a SheevaPlug replacement
On 29/03/11 13:08, Wookey wrote: [...] Personally I just couldn't bring myself to have a 24/7 server that used 25W+disk, no matter how cheap it is, because I know how unecessary that is, and I think energy consumption matters. Don't forget that the 25W R3700 includes a hard drive, while the SheevaPlug doesn't. In fact, my existing server stack (SheevaPlug + external HDD + SSD + ADSL router + DWL54G + UPS) consumes about 20W, and goes up and down about 25% depending whether the external HDD is spun up or not. An R3700 based setup would probably use about 35W, I'd say. I would be able to show you pretty graphs but unfortunately a recent update to nut has totally broken its ability to talk to my UPS, so I don't have any server stats any more. -- ┌─── ｄｇ＠ｃｏｗｌａｒｋ．ｃｏｍ ─ http://www.cowlark.com ─ │ I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my │ telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out │ how to use my telephone. --- Bjarne Stroustrup signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: nslu2 unstable upgrade broke boot
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 04:08, Loïc Minier l...@dooz.org wrote: In the bug you pointed at, Dave martin has an useful recipe to start debugging issues in the initrd like this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/klibc/+bug/683683/comments/30 The recipe was going so well until: / # /mnt/usr/bin/gdb /bin/sh: /mnt/usr/bin/gdb: not found Anyway, I'm not really sure what I'd do with GDB. Is there debugging output that would be useful? Gordon -- Gordon Farquharson GnuPG Key ID: 32D6D676 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=ku91zehn+wpoyemjyiciwhgv_byruogr...@mail.gmail.com
Re: nslu2 unstable upgrade broke boot
Hi Joey On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 08:52, Joey Hess jo...@debian.org wrote: I did upgrade busybox, too. Seems likely that the new version (1:1.18.3-1) is miscompiled on armel, then. So, does this mean you know how to fix the problem? Is there anything more I should do? Gordon -- Gordon Farquharson GnuPG Key ID: 32D6D676 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=xbf9flk7d7dziswpai6u265nacto1lf6ub...@mail.gmail.com
Re: nslu2 unstable upgrade broke boot
Gordon Farquharson wrote: Hi Joey On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 08:52, Joey Hess jo...@debian.org wrote: I did upgrade busybox, too. Seems likely that the new version (1:1.18.3-1) is miscompiled on armel, then. So, does this mean you know how to fix the problem? Is there anything more I should do? No, I have no idea how to fix it. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
