Re: Can't get a Linux 3.6-rc zImage smaller than 2MB

2012-09-13 Thread Eric Cooper
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 04:47:42PM +0200, Maciej Soltysiak wrote:
> Also, .config is here: http://pastebin.com/mvnkW2DD

Using this .config, and the arm-2012.03 cross-compiler from
codesourcery, I get:
Image Name:   Linux-3.6.0-rc5mks1+
Created:  Thu Sep 13 21:13:46 2012
Image Type:   ARM Linux Kernel Image (uncompressed)
Data Size:839360 Bytes = 819.69 kB = 0.80 MB

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Re: Can't get a Linux 3.6-rc zImage smaller than 2MB

2012-09-13 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:10 PM, martinwguy  wrote:
> On 12 September 2012 19:46, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton  
> wrote:
>>> I went down from whopping 5MB to 2.1MB
>>
>>   i was expecting a large number but not that large.
>>
>>> I also tried to use a .config file from
>>> linux-image-3.2.0-3-iop32x_3.2.23-1_armel.deb
>>> and it's still is a big image.
>>
>>  i'm not impressed.  what the fuck's going on with the linux kernel??

> [..]

> Each piece of software has a high point at which functionality over
> bloat hits a maximum, followed by decline. For MSWord it was Word 6.
> For Windows it was Windows 3.11. For Mozilla it was about a year after
> the open-sourcing of netscape, when it was called Firebird. For Linux
> it was somewhere in the 2.4 series.

 *depressed*.

> Of course, it's a wonderful piece of software, runs on anything and
> does everything.
> I am surprised there are not more minimalist monomaniacs involved in
> keeping the core code small.

 ... especially given that the majority of commits nowadays is from
ARM developers.  is anyone else in the debian-arm community concerned
about this trend?  embedded systems aren't exactly known for their
humongous resources.

l.


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Re: Can't get a Linux 3.6-rc zImage smaller than 2MB

2012-09-13 Thread martinwguy
On 12 September 2012 19:46, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton  wrote:
>> I went down from whopping 5MB to 2.1MB
>
>   i was expecting a large number but not that large.
>
>> I also tried to use a .config file from
>> linux-image-3.2.0-3-iop32x_3.2.23-1_armel.deb
>> and it's still is a big image.
>
>  i'm not impressed.  what the fuck's going on with the linux kernel??

This almost always happens to all software. Someone writes a small,
efficient core of code which then gets added to and added to and added
to - each change being well-meant, of course - until it is huge and
bloated. Then someone gets sick of it and says "I know, I'll write a
new, small, efficient core of code"... and the cycle repeats.

Each piece of software has a high point at which functionality over
bloat hits a maximum, followed by decline. For MSWord it was Word 6.
For Windows it was Windows 3.11. For Mozilla it was about a year after
the open-sourcing of netscape, when it was called Firebird. For Linux
it was somewhere in the 2.4 series.

Of course, it's a wonderful piece of software, runs on anything and
does everything.
I am surprised there are not more minimalist monomaniacs involved in
keeping the core code small.

M


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