Re: Please put me on your mailing list. I am looking for the image file (not the iso file) to write to an SD card. Preferably it would be the latest stable release (6.x). All the website I go to only
I just had to laugh out loud at this! Thankyou Philip. M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAL4-wQpE5J6612021XWLQsfxy-_=a2krgx-tmy2czkqyk_k...@mail.gmail.com
Re: ARMHF - Mediaplayer software?
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:00 AM, Paul Wise p...@debian.org wrote: I'd encourage you to read the mailing lists code of conduct, especially the second and third last items and the item on CCs. In addition, you might like to read the Debian Community Guidelines for some tips on constructive communication. well... i have another idea. there's actually two failures here, i believe you'll agree once i outline them. the first is that i responded in a manner which, if anyone is familiar with my limitations, people will know that it is commonly misunderstood, taken the wrong way, etc. etc. i often find that i cannot clearly get concepts across, this results in substitution of expletives as a means to express the strength of feeling *behind* the concept, etc. etc. the second is this: there may be people in the debian community *better suited* to tackle these thorny issues *but none of them did*. so when i responded, although i identified the issues, the responses left people saying i wouldn't have tackled it that way because that makes us all look bad but the point is they *didn't* tackle it. so my suggestion is, therefore, that we - collaboratively - work on a suitable response that *is* suitable. from this, several things would be achieved: a) i'll learn by example and by doing so effing well learn to communicate effectively b) the people who felt like they were being shat on won't feel that way c) the people who perhaps should have been paying closer attention will know to do so in future and have a template to work from should something similar arise. d) we get to resolve and clarify something that's bugging a lot of people [*1] thoughts anyone? l. [*1] there's quite a few people who don't like the situation wrt software freedom that the rbpi brings up: they just don't talk about it publicly because they might get shouted down as haters-of-education or something ridiculous by those people who don't understand the importance or implications of software freedom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capweedww_hpbjug3an5brcgukhvfapuj1d1l0m0bwhx0zxh...@mail.gmail.com
Re: ARMHF - Mediaplayer software?
On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 10:15:27 +0100 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton l...@lkcl.net allegedly wrote: so my suggestion is, therefore, that we - collaboratively - work on a suitable response that *is* suitable. from this, several things would be achieved: a) i'll learn by example and by doing so effing well learn to communicate effectively Luke Personally I have never felt that effective communication is one of your failings. Tact, yes, effectiveness, no. Best Mick - blog: baldric.net gpg fingerprint: FC23 3338 F664 5E66 876B 72C0 0A1F E60B 5BAD D312 - signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Please put me on your mailing list. I am looking for the image file (not the iso file) to write to an SD card. Preferably it would be the latest stable release (6.x). All the website I go to only
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Martin Guy martinw...@gmail.com wrote: I just had to laugh out loud at this! perfect timing :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capweedwi1jtxbwax2zskcwdpsw+hmxwqxaxkgqyyybfwbbv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Please put me on your mailing list. I am looking for the image file (not the iso file) to write to an SD card. Preferably it would be the latest stable release (6.x). All the website I go to only
dear mr philip gay, you'll be wanting these then: http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianImages these images are customised to the rbpi device, bless their little cotton socks. don't try to use the standard debian-arm images, they're not suited for it. l. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 3:18 AM, Philip Gay ptga...@gmail.com wrote: -- Philip and Jean Gay 1054 Eichhorn Drive Erie, CO 80516-5405 Home Phone: 720-230-7056 Phil's Mobile: 303-913-9539 Jean's Mobile: 303-903-2947 Phil's Google Phone: 303-656-9272 (it rings both Home Phone and Phil's Mobile simultaneously) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPweEDyRqKEQX5jjzKeZkETGkmnLFaBbGFxMQ9o27=qch4+...@mail.gmail.com
Bug#705118: debian-installer: FTBFS on armhf: Unable to locate package nic-modules-3.2.0-4-mx5-di
Source: debian-installer
Version: 20130409
Severity: serious
Justification: FTBFS
Hi folks,
I unfortunately missed or forgot about those changes on the kernel side:
|* [armhf/mx5] udeb: Add missing storage drivers (Closes: #697128)
| - Add ata-modules including libata, pata-modules including pata_imx,
|sata-modules including ahci_platform
| - Add sdhci-esdhc-imx to mmc-modules
| - Add mtd-modules including mtd, mtdblock and m25p80
|* [armhf] udeb: Fix network driver selection
| - [armhf/mx5] Remove nic-modules
| - [armhf/vexpress] Add usb-modules
| - Add standard set of USB drivers to nic-usb-modules
| - Add nic-wireless-modules
(See: http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/linux/news/20130225T050455Z.html)
Meaning d-i now FTBFS with:
| E: Unable to locate package nic-modules-3.2.0-4-mx5-di
| E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'nic-modules-3.2.0-4-mx5-di'
(See: https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=debian-installersuite=sid)
Patches (preferably tested ;)) against src:debian-installer to update
package lists for armhf/{mx5,vexpress} are more than welcome. Also,
(I know I'm asking a lot), “fast is good”.
Thanks already.
Mraw,
KiBi.
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Re: Please put me on your mailing list. I am looking for the image file (not the iso file) to write to an SD card. Preferably it would be the latest stable release (6.x). All the website I go to only
Please put me on your mailing list. If you want to join any mailing lists please subscribe yourself. I am looking for the image file (not the iso file) to write to an SD card. Preferably it would be the latest stable release (6.x). All the website I go to only have the iso versions of debian-arm. I am trying to install it on a Raspberry Pi (model B). Thank you! A debian squeeze image for the raspberry pi is available from http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/download.php?file=/images/debian/6/debian6-19-04-2012/debian6-19-04-2012.zip however it hasn't been updated in some time and it may be nessacery to manually update the firmware and kernel to the latest versions from https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware before it will boot on some Pis Also be aware that such an image will not take advantage of the floating point hardware in the Pi's CPU (which is why raspbian was created) and that the raspberry pi community have largely moved on from debian squeeze to either raspbian wheezy (most people) or debian wheezy armel (those who are stuck dependent on some peice of software that doesn't work properly with the hard float ABI). P.S. Please don't write the body of your mails in the subject. P.P.S. If you are going to post on public mailing lists you might want to reconsider having your phone numbers in your email signature. P.P.P.S. When you have Pi specific questions you will probablly do better on the raspberry pi forums than here. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5165655e.80...@p10link.net
Re: ARMHF - Mediaplayer software?
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 01:02:17AM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com wrote: Calm down. i'm perfectly calm. i apologise for giving the impression that i'm not. you may have mistaken the strength of the words for my emotional state. i can assure you that the two are not linked. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, assuming you had lost your temper and therefore self control. Oh well. You may have some (justified) dislike of the Pi, but there is absolutely no need nor justification to abuse others in the Debian community because of that. it's not abuse: i'm asking - reasonably i believe - that discussion of a device which has nothing to do with debian-arm software not be discussed on debian-arm [and using strong words to emphasise that]. is that an unreasonable request, steve? I believe so, yes. The Raspbian folks are valued members of the Debian community. They're working on a derived distro that better supports hardware that you (and a number of other folks) don't like, as we all know. But dislike of that hardware and the companies involved in producing it is no excuse for ranting and raving here, at them. These guys are working on a Debian-derived (in fact, basically just Debian-*rebuilt*) distro for a particular piece of ARM-powered hardware. I personally think that's just fine and on-topic here, just as much as discussions about running Debian on other ARM-based hardware or discusssions about developing new hardware options for running Debian and other Free Software. I might feel differently if they were swamping the list with dozens of posts per day; that would then justify a separate list purely for the sake of traffic. But they're not. If you are so against reading anything about Raspbian etc., then I must echo Paul Wise's response: you will need to filter your mail. Raspbian and Pi stuff *will* continue to show up here, I guarantee it. Invective from you isn't going to change that, instead it makes you look bad. I hope you don't want that. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com You raise the blade, you make the change... You re-arrange me 'til I'm sane... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130410131924.gb13...@einval.com
Re: ARMHF - Mediaplayer software?
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 01:02:17AM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: it's not abuse: i'm asking - reasonably i believe - that discussion of a device which has nothing to do with debian-arm software not be discussed on debian-arm [and using strong words to emphasise that]. is that an unreasonable request, steve? Can debian armel not run on the pi? I don't see why it couldn't. armel is part of this list. would you be willing to help out here in a positive way by helping to assess whether there should be a list named e.g. raspb...@lists.debian.org? Why? arm, armel, armeb and armhf have all worked on this list so far. or - and this is an important consideration for debian - would such a move be seen as endorsement of insidious proprietary practices and the endorsement by the debian community of software patents and endorsement of the practice of forcing people to choose between purchase of non-free software and not having the functionality they thought they were paying for? I am sure plenty of x86 machines have those issues too, but that doesn't stop people from being allowed to discuss such machines running Debian. Personally I consider the pi a useless device to me. I have a number of armv7 devices though and will probably get more when I see interesting ones. Had the pi existed when armhf started, it is possible the choice to only support armv7 as a base would have turned out differently. But since it didn't, and the choice was made to support armv7+ only, then the raspian unofficial port got started. A number of us gave advice on how to go about getting armhf rebuilt for the pi, because we are nice people, even if we don't personally have any interest in using the pi. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130410133957.go21...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
Re: ARMHF - Mediaplayer software?
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com wrote: is that an unreasonable request, steve? I believe so, yes. The Raspbian folks are valued members of the Debian community. They're working on a derived distro that better supports hardware that you (and a number of other folks) don't like, as we all know. But dislike of that hardware and the companies involved in producing it is no excuse for ranting and raving here, at them. These guys are working on a Debian-derived (in fact, basically just Debian-*rebuilt*) distro for a particular piece of ARM-powered hardware. I personally think that's just fine and on-topic here, just as much as discussions about running Debian on other ARM-based hardware or discusssions about developing new hardware options for running Debian and other Free Software. I've been following this conversation and I'm pleased that Raspbian is welcomed as a valuable contribution to the Debian community, although I certainly understand and sympathize with Luke's position regarding the platform not being completely open. Hopefully the commercial success of the Raspberry Pi will encourage other platform vendors to enter the market with similar devices at similar price points, but with fully open hardware. The Raspberry Pi, if anything else, demonstrated the market demand for such devices at the sub-$40 price point. As Steve pointed out, Raspbian is indeed a more of a rebuild of Debian armhf than it is anything else. I don't think that we've ever presented it as anything else and I hope that every user of the Raspberry Pi with Raspbian knows that they are essentially using Debian. If this isn't the case, please let us know how we can better communicate this important fact. The reason it's called Raspbian is to help clarify that it's not an official Debian supported release which could confuse people if they attempted to download binaries from the Debian repositories. It is my sincere hope that with Raspbian being the officially supported distribution for the Raspberry Pi, the end result will be millions of more new users introduced to Debian. As they move beyond the Pi, hopefully they'll then choose to use Debian on future hardware because it works just like the Raspberry Pi they cut their teeth on. Also, users do often run into issues with the closed aspects of the Pi. This becomes an excellent opportunity to discuss with people why such limitations exist, the negative impact of such limitations on their freedom, and what the user can about the issue -- lobbying hardware vendors to open their devices and ultimately voting with their feet and their money if other choices exist. Finally, I would really like for Raspbian to be folded back into Debian and become a supported release by the Debian Foundation. However, I understand and appreciate the reasons why this is extremely unlikely. With that being case, hopefully Raspbian can be seen as Debian's younger sibling that is standing upon the shoulders of the giants that created Debian armhf to begin with. Again, I would like to thank the community on this list for being very helpful a year ago with encouragement and advice that helped make Raspbian possible. Mike Thompson
Re: Debian on thecus N2100
On 10.04.2013 16:41, Brian Platt wrote: I'm tring to install debian on the Thecus N2100 using the instructions from http://www.cyrius.com/debian/iop/n2100/ however when formatting the partitions the bar goes up to 33% (I know it can take ages for the bar to update) as expected however for some reason after a few minutes hard disk activity stops and eventually the network connection is dropped. It seems someone had a similar problem here http://blog.coldtobi.de/1_coldtobis_blog/archive/171_installing_debian_on_the_thecus_n2100_--_part_3_--_installing_debian.html . I've tried raid non raid single and dual drives, manual and guided setup and it always fails. I've also tried the ssh connection via putty and via linux terminal. I thought it was hardware problem so bought another one with new drivers etc and still the problem exists. Anyone got any ideas what could be going on? Try another hdd model. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5165ad62.7010...@gmail.com
Re: ARMHF - Mediaplayer software?
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: the second is this: there may be people in the debian community *better suited* to tackle these thorny issues *but none of them did*. You have a good point here. There have been some responses along the lines of please buy something else but only on IRC. so my suggestion is, therefore, that we - collaboratively - work on a suitable response that *is* suitable. Here is a first pass, thoughts? http://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAKTje6EUgJQfrdSCcWp+pPsk0evfWETVpkzVT0EbG1=ck_t...@mail.gmail.com
[PATCH installer 0/2] armhf kernel module fixes
Some overdue changes to selection of kernel module udeb packages. Sorry
I didn't send these out earlier.
I'm afraid I haven't *tested* these at all - I have neither the hardware
nor the necessary build environment - so I'm relying on ARM porters to
check that it's possible to build a working installer with these.
Ben.
Ben Hutchings (2):
Include {ata,mtd,pata,sata}-modules in mx5 netboot image (Closes:
#675017)
Replace nic-modules with nic-{usb,wireless}-modules in armhf netboot
images (Closes: #705118)
build/pkg-lists/netboot/armhf.cfg |3 ++-
build/pkg-lists/netboot/armhf/mx5.cfg |4
debian/changelog |6 ++
3 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
--
Ben Hutchings
Humans are not rational beings; they are rationalising beings.
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[PATCH installer 1/2] Include {ata,mtd,pata,sata}-modules in mx5 netboot image (Closes: #675017)
---
build/pkg-lists/netboot/armhf/mx5.cfg |4
debian/changelog |4
2 files changed, 8 insertions(+)
diff --git a/build/pkg-lists/netboot/armhf/mx5.cfg
b/build/pkg-lists/netboot/armhf/mx5.cfg
index b40d119..d8704c8 100644
--- a/build/pkg-lists/netboot/armhf/mx5.cfg
+++ b/build/pkg-lists/netboot/armhf/mx5.cfg
@@ -1 +1,5 @@
+ata-modules-${kernel:Version}
mmc-modules-${kernel:Version}
+mtd-modules-${kernel:Version}
+pata-modules-${kernel:Version}
+sata-modules-${kernel:Version}
diff --git a/debian/changelog b/debian/changelog
index f19fb5e..9171171 100644
--- a/debian/changelog
+++ b/debian/changelog
@@ -1,8 +1,12 @@
debian-installer (2013) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
+ [ Samuel Thibault ]
* internal.xml: Point at the repository README instead of duplicating
checkout information.
+ [ Ben Hutchings ]
+ * Include {ata,mtd,pata,sata}-modules in mx5 netboot image (Closes: #675017)
+
-- Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org Wed, 10 Apr 2013 23:46:45 +0200
debian-installer (20130409) unstable; urgency=low
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[PATCH installer 2/2] Replace nic-modules with nic-{usb,wireless}-modules in armhf netboot images (Closes: #705118)
---
build/pkg-lists/netboot/armhf.cfg |3 ++-
debian/changelog |2 ++
2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/build/pkg-lists/netboot/armhf.cfg
b/build/pkg-lists/netboot/armhf.cfg
index e8a2b96..2020737 100644
--- a/build/pkg-lists/netboot/armhf.cfg
+++ b/build/pkg-lists/netboot/armhf.cfg
@@ -7,7 +7,8 @@ hw-detect
ethdetect
netcfg
-nic-modules-${kernel:Version}
+nic-usb-modules-${kernel:Version}
+nic-wireless-modules-${kernel:Version}
fb-modules-${kernel:Version} ?
input-modules-${kernel:Version} ?
diff --git a/debian/changelog b/debian/changelog
index 9171171..9c845be 100644
--- a/debian/changelog
+++ b/debian/changelog
@@ -6,6 +6,8 @@ debian-installer (2013) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
[ Ben Hutchings ]
* Include {ata,mtd,pata,sata}-modules in mx5 netboot image (Closes: #675017)
+ * Replace nic-modules with nic-{usb,wireless}-modules in armhf netboot
+images (Closes: #705118)
-- Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org Wed, 10 Apr 2013 23:46:45 +0200
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