Re: Two questions about installing Debian on a Thecus 2100 (-a-like)
John Winters wrote: [snip] Thank you for your very complete replies. I believe what I need to do now is: 1) Unpack the Thecus firmware (done that) 2) Interrupt redboot with telnet 3) Suck a couple of files over with tftp 4) Boot into the Thecus firmware 5) Do an upgrade again, but this time with the official installer image Apologies for replying to myself, but can I do it an even shorter way? Rather than sucking the Thecus firmware over by tftp and then running it, is it not possible to suck the Debian installer components over and run those? I've unpacked n2100.bin and it contains: -rw-r--r-- 1 john john 3806701 2007-06-15 22:09 initrd -rwxr-xr-x 1 john john2382 2007-06-15 22:09 up.sh -rw-r--r-- 1 john john 6 2007-06-15 22:09 version -rw-r--r-- 1 john john 1172036 2007-06-15 22:09 vmlinuz Presumably it is theoretically possible to just pull those into memory and set them running - or have I missed something? TIA, John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two questions about installing Debian on a Thecus 2100 (-a-like)
* John Winters [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-14 07:06]: How does one actually tell the installer to switch into expert mode? There didn't seem to be an option with the el installer - although of course it did it once partman had failed. You're not asked by default what mode you want to do, so there are two options: 1) just run the installation until base install fails to start the kernel. The error will put you into expert mode. Then run base install again and you can choose the kernel. 2) at some point during the install (e.g. when partman has started), choose the go back option to go to the menu. In the menu you'll see an entry like Change debconf priority (it's towards the end) - do that and choose high and then continue. -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two questions about installing Debian on a Thecus 2100 (-a-like)
John Winters wrote: Martin Michlmayr wrote: * John Winters [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-13 16:43]: http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/armel/images/daily/iop32x/netboot/n2100.bin disc OK, but then partman exits part way through starting up. It gets as far as 58% in its startup progress bar and just exits. [snip] Anyway, assuming you upgraded RedBoot before trying to install Debian, you can use the instructions from http://www.cyrius.com/debian/iop/n2100/telnet.html to load the installer image of Debian stable (etch) of arm. I did - or at least I upgraded the Thecus firmware to 2.1.05 which I believe does that job. Thank you for your very complete replies. I believe what I need to do now is: 1) Unpack the Thecus firmware (done that) 2) Interrupt redboot with telnet More replying to myself I'm afraid. I've got stuck trying to do step 2. The instructions for interrupting redboot say to use: arping -f 192.168.1.100 telnet 192.168.1.100 9000 Unfortunately the current version of arping (2.06) doesn't understand a -f option and I can't find one which does - I presume it would tell arping to exit after receiving one reply. It doesn't seem to be possible to emulate it either. Is there another way of getting into the telnet session? I've tried doing it manually but the window of opportunity seems to be exceedingly short. John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two questions about installing Debian on a Thecus 2100 (-a-like)
* Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-14 07:28]: 1) just run the installation until base install fails to start the fails to install, sorry. -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two questions about installing Debian on a Thecus 2100 (-a-like)
* John Winters [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-14 08:45]: Presumably it is theoretically possible to just pull those into memory and set them running - or have I missed something? Yes, that's exactly what I meant. Sorry for not being clear. -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two questions about installing Debian on a Thecus 2100 (-a-like)
John Winters wrote: I've just sourced an Evesham re-badged Thecus 2100 and would like to upgrade it to a full Debian installation. I've previously done the same with an NSLU2, but am interested in the potential extra speed of the Thecus. I did this recently using the new ARM EABI/arml port, I used the info at: http://www.cyrius.com/debian/iop/n2100/install.html and the Debian installer at: http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/armel/images/daily/iop32x/netboot/n2100.bin which points to the old gnuab repro but you get the chance to change that during the install. So I used the miror at: http://ftp.easynet.be/ftp/gnuab/debian you should be able to use debian-ports.org now, it went pretty much the way the instructions say. Colin -- Colin Tuckley | +44(0)1903 236872 | PGP/GnuPG Key Id Debian Developer | +44(0)7799 143369 | 0x1B3045CE Try to learn from other people's mistakes, you haven't time to make them all yourself! - Anon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two questions about installing Debian on a Thecus 2100 (-a-like)
Colin Tuckley wrote: John Winters wrote: I've just sourced an Evesham re-badged Thecus 2100 and would like to upgrade it to a full Debian installation. I've previously done the same with an NSLU2, but am interested in the potential extra speed of the Thecus. I did this recently using the new ARM EABI/arml port, I used the info at: http://www.cyrius.com/debian/iop/n2100/install.html and the Debian installer at: http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/armel/images/daily/iop32x/netboot/n2100.bin which points to the old gnuab repro but you get the chance to change that during the install. So I used the miror at: http://ftp.easynet.be/ftp/gnuab/debian Thanks for the response. I've taken my courage in both hands and started the process but I get stuck at the disk partitioning stage. It detects the disc OK, but then partman exits part way through starting up. It gets as far as 58% in its startup progress bar and just exits. /var/log/partman contains: parted_server: Closing infifo and outfifo parted_server: main_loop: iteration 15 parted_server: Opening infifo Device: yes Model: ATA ST3500630AS Path: /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc Sector size: 512 Sectors: 976773168 Sectors/track: 63 Heads: 255 Cylinders: 60801 Partition table: no /bin/partman: IN: QUIT parted_server: Read command: QUIT parted_server: Quitting and the syslog file contains: Dec 13 16:39:58 kernel: program partmap is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO Any idea why partman won't do its bit? TIA, John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two questions about installing Debian on a Thecus 2100 (-a-like)
* John Winters [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-13 14:13]: As I understand it, you select expert mode (or set the message priority to low) and then give the name of the right kernel to install at the relevant point, but I can't find documented anywhere what the name of the right kernel is. Can anyone tell me? 2.6.18-5-iop32x If you get it wrong at this point do you have a brick, or is there a recovery route? If you get it wrong at this point, debian-installer will still be in flash so you can start all over. I currently have access to the box by way of the ssh backdoor. Am I right in thinking that once I've upgraded to the current Thecus firmware I'll lose this back door? Is there any other way in then? I'm not too familiar with the Thecus firmware, but I believe you're right. There should be a module available for SSH access, though. Have you checked http://onbeat.dk/thecus/index.php/N2100_Resources Anyway, why do care about this anyway? You could just upgrade to the latest firmware right before installing Debian, and Debian will remove the original Thecus firmware from flash anyway, so it doesn't matter whether it supports SSH or not. :) -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two questions about installing Debian on a Thecus 2100 (-a-like)
* John Winters [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-13 16:43]: http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/armel/images/daily/iop32x/netboot/n2100.bin disc OK, but then partman exits part way through starting up. It gets as far as 58% in its startup progress bar and just exits. I assume you used the URL above to install, rather the official image of Debian stable? The image above is an unstable image from July and given the recent changes in d-i I wouldn't be surprised it's no longer working... armel guys, can you please stop pimping your daily images to everyone. John didn't actually ask for armel images, did he? John: there are two ports of Debian for ARM: the arm port, which is a well established and supported port, and for which images are available of Debian stable (etch). They are known to work. Then there's armel, the future of Linux on ARM, which is still in development, and not advised for users unless they really need armel (it offers better FP speed than the old arm port). Partition table: no /bin/partman: IN: QUIT parted_server: Read command: QUIT parted_server: Quitting I'm not too fimilar with partman but can you send this log to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frans Pop made some major changes to partman recently (i.e. in the last few days) so it's possible that something broke. (Yes, I said before that the image you used is from July but partman is being pulled in via the net from a mirror.) and the syslog file contains: Dec 13 16:39:58 kernel: program partmap is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO This is normal - it's not the cause of the problem. Anyway, assuming you upgraded RedBoot before trying to install Debian, you can use the instructions from http://www.cyrius.com/debian/iop/n2100/telnet.html to load the installer image of Debian stable (etch) of arm. -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two questions about installing Debian on a Thecus 2100 (-a-like)
Martin Michlmayr wrote: * John Winters [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-13 16:43]: http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/armel/images/daily/iop32x/netboot/n2100.bin disc OK, but then partman exits part way through starting up. It gets as far as 58% in its startup progress bar and just exits. [snip] Anyway, assuming you upgraded RedBoot before trying to install Debian, you can use the instructions from http://www.cyrius.com/debian/iop/n2100/telnet.html to load the installer image of Debian stable (etch) of arm. I did - or at least I upgraded the Thecus firmware to 2.1.05 which I believe does that job. Thank you for your very complete replies. I believe what I need to do now is: 1) Unpack the Thecus firmware (done that) 2) Interrupt redboot with telnet 3) Suck a couple of files over with tftp 4) Boot into the Thecus firmware 5) Do an upgrade again, but this time with the official installer image I'm assuming I don't actually need to flash the Thecus firmware in again? How does one actually tell the installer to switch into expert mode? There didn't seem to be an option with the el installer - although of course it did it once partman had failed. Thanks again for your help. John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
