Re: d-i slowness on QNAP TS-209
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Michlmayr wrote: In any case, please send the above desription of the problem to debian-b...@lists.debian.org since -boot has more people who can help debug debian-installer issues. Ok, so I did [1] and got pointed at #586404. So it seems not to be arm- specific. Cheers, Marcus [1] http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.boot/118111 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkwgl8EACgkQXjXn6TzcAQnYDwCfdYSYhV6i5bqhfbJJfAua2bFr q38An18cI8ADrlGWQELb05A1nNV2GM6D =LSI+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hvq54b$h...@dough.gmane.org
Re: d-i slowness on QNAP TS-209
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Michlmayr wrote: Shouldn't be that slow. Is it literally _minutes_ for each step? Yes, sometimes. Just now it took three minutes after confirming the partitioning, before any progress indicator came up. But actually on this third or fourth attempt it was much snappier, with no abnormal delays in partition setup. The only difference is that I am configuring a much smaller LVM now than on previous attempts (5 GB instead of the whole 2 TB). Yesterday I had to wait 1-2 minutes after configuring each mount point. Also I just noticed that the testing/unstable installer I used was broken by #585733, not sure if that has anything to do with it. I'm going to run the one from your repository and see if there is a difference. Marcus -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkwfHy0ACgkQXjXn6TzcAQlWEgCbBch11h23WlvB5r99lR+mhuMY rSoAoOuNWP+xOrSbEMThqXW/Puz3SLws =RaBl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hvn6vp$n2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: d-i slowness on QNAP TS-209
* John Reiser ven...@bitwagon.com [2010-06-20 16:12]: In 2006 it was literally minutes on an NSLU2 [low-memory mode.] Yes, I can believe that but the TS-209 is a much more powerful device than the NSLU2. -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100621084124.ga2...@jirafa.cyrius.com
Re: d-i slowness on QNAP TS-209
* Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au [2010-06-21 13:23]: I understand, correct me if I am wrong, that bind9 has issues with ARM machines at this time. I'm not aware of any. Do you have a pointer? There was a severe problem with bind9 on mips but that got fixed (#516616). -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100621084342.gb2...@jirafa.cyrius.com
Re: d-i slowness on QNAP TS-209
* Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au [2010-06-21 20:08]: There was a severe problem with bind9 on mips but that got fixed (#516616). Is this the same thing or a different one? Yep, it's that bug, which eventually got fixed. -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100621103304.gj2...@jirafa.cyrius.com
Re: d-i slowness on QNAP TS-209
Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au [2010-06-21 20:08]: There was a severe problem with bind9 on mips but that got fixed (#516616). Is this the same thing or a different one? Yep, it's that bug, which eventually got fixed. Excellent, thanks. -- Kind Regards AndrewM Andrew McGlashan Broadband Solutions now including VoIP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c1f4d1a.5080...@affinityvision.com.au
Re: d-i slowness on QNAP TS-209
* Marcus Better mar...@better.se [2010-06-21 10:13]: But actually on this third or fourth attempt it was much snappier, with no abnormal delays in partition setup. The only difference is that I am configuring a much smaller LVM now than on previous attempts (5 GB instead of the whole 2 TB). Yesterday I had to wait 1-2 minutes after configuring each mount point. Do the delays also happen before you set up the RAID or only afterwards? I wonder whether the RAID is syncing and makes the machine go slow. That's the only explanation I can think of right now. Also, can you check with ps whether there are any processes that use up a lot of cpu or memory? In any case, please send the above desription of the problem to debian-b...@lists.debian.org since -boot has more people who can help debug debian-installer issues. -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100621141139.ge17...@jirafa.cyrius.com
Re: d-i slowness on QNAP TS-209
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Michlmayr wrote: Do the delays also happen before you set up the RAID or only afterwards? Possibly afterwards, but I'm not sure. The older installer from your repo was much snappier, it's installing happily now. Also, can you check with ps whether there are any processes that use up a lot of cpu or memory? Is it possible to log in with another shell while the installation is in progress? Cheers, Marcus -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkwfyz8ACgkQXjXn6TzcAQnzWwCgtCfWCH1+mVnjGhk8kzd0+ooc DjYAoLQ28w+mUD2W1dJLX3pM8SsrUW8B =34+p -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hvoi07$c0...@dough.gmane.org
Re: d-i slowness on QNAP TS-209
* Marcus Better mar...@better.se [2010-06-21 22:27]: Also, can you check with ps whether there are any processes that use up a lot of cpu or memory? Is it possible to log in with another shell while the installation is in progress? Yes, when you connect via SSH it will ask you whether you want to enter the installer or open a shell. -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100621224248.gm17...@jirafa.cyrius.com
Re: d-i slowness on QNAP TS-209
* Marcus Better mar...@better.se [2010-06-20 22:24]: I'm currently installing squeeze on a QNAP TS-209 with two 2 TB disk drives. The only really major pain is the speed, especially the delays between various d-i screens. It can take a few minutes for some steps, like entering the RAID manager, or after configuring a partition. Is there room for improvement here, or is the machine just that slow? Shouldn't be that slow. Is it literally _minutes_ for each step? Does this happen with all screens or only with the partitioner/RAID config? -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100620224000.gn4...@jirafa.cyrius.com
Re: d-i slowness on QNAP TS-209
On 06/20/2010 03:40 PM, Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Marcus Better mar...@better.se [2010-06-20 22:24]: I'm currently installing squeeze on a QNAP TS-209 with two 2 TB disk drives. The only really major pain is the speed, especially the delays between various d-i screens. It can take a few minutes for some steps, like entering the RAID manager, or after configuring a partition. Is there room for improvement here, or is the machine just that slow? Shouldn't be that slow. Is it literally _minutes_ for each step? Does this happen with all screens or only with the partitioner/RAID config? In 2006 it was literally minutes on an NSLU2 [low-memory mode.] Some shell strings were manipulated with code that used fork+exec numerous times instead of standard tricks of no-fork processing with strings in an interpreter. The supposed shell builtin [ actually was *not* builtin. [Track PID with ps in another window.] Some sets of packages were tracked using a string of concatenated names instead of with zero-length files in a temporary directory. One step was at least O(n**2) in the number of packages. I complained; the response seemed to me, Be glad it works at all. -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c1ea04f.2010...@bitwagon.com
Re: d-i slowness on QNAP TS-209
Hi, Marcus Better wrote: I'm currently installing squeeze on a QNAP TS-209 with two 2 TB disk drives. The only really major pain is the speed, especially the delays between various d-i screens. It can take a few minutes for some steps, like entering the RAID manager, or after configuring a partition. Is there room for improvement here, or is the machine just that slow? Okay, well this thread might be of interest: http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=182t=9664 I actually use a couple of DNS-343 untis from D-Link and my main gripe is that they don't have enough RAM (or speed generally with a gigabit network interface). Using funplug on them and my own date shell script that gets the right date for my timezone. Interestingly, at works with current [local] date/time properly, but the standard date executable returns GMT time. Anyway, I would consider the TS-509 as per the thread or a different dedicated machine, but for now the dns343's are cutting it, just, for the tasks they have to do. The other advantage of the TS-509 is that it uses Intel chipset which works better than ARM based architectures (probably depending on the task) -- I understand, correct me if I am wrong, that bind9 has issues with ARM machines at this time. Intel is more standard at least. Cheers -- Kind Regards AndrewM Andrew McGlashan Broadband Solutions now including VoIP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c1edb29.3000...@affinityvision.com.au
