Bug#69793: IBM PC Server 320 (MCA/PCI Pentium) cannot boot

[era eriksson]

On 23 Aug 2000 22:06:04 -0400, Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > era eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address daf1
 > current-> tss.cr3 = 00101000, %cr3 = 00101000
 > *pde = 
 > Oops: 
 > CPU:0
 > EIP:0010:[]
 > EFLAGS: 0010046
 >
 > I dont' know what we can do about this.  Have you tried the different
 > kernels (non SCSI for instance) to see if they behave the same?

I'm booting off a SCSI device, so I doubt it's going to work any
better. Or do you mean just try it and see if it breaks in a different
spot instead?

 > I mean, if you can't boot linux you can't boot and there's probably
 > littel we can do.

Your installation manual requests that I submit a bug report if I
can't get it to work. It's not like I'm demanding that you fix this.
(And I'm sorry if I'm restating the obvious here.)

 > Have you tried Tom's Boot Disk?

No, I hadn't heard about it. I'll look around for it. (Found it
already actually.) Thanks for the pointer.

Meanwhile, Nathan had some promising suggestions about upgrading the
Flash BIOS (thanks pal) which I'll probably try first. I'll try to
keep you posted.

Thanks,

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Re: [debian-installer] microdpkg

[Randolph Chung]

> It looks like we should probably get further along on the redesign
> so we can begin to get some better idea of what udpkg needs to be able
> to do. Maybe we don't need dependencies. Maybe we do.
> 
> (FWIW, Randolph is working on some 9 or 10k udpkg that does support
> deps.)

I just checked something into cvs. it's in tools/udpkg

It's really still very incomplete. It "supports deps" right now only in the 
sense that it will check dependencies against installed/to-be-installed-with-
same-command packages. it doesn't do any of the ordering stuff yet,
although the hooks are there. Dependency checking can be turned off
completely at compile time as well.

As I mentioned above, it's still very incomplete. Feel free to
contribute changes, etc. I am exploring how to best handle the files
that go into /var/lib/dpkg/info/  in particular the list file is 
ugly... i'm thinking of doing something like (+ error checking, etc):

FILE *infp, *outfp;
char buf[MAXLEN];
char *p;
infp = popen("ar p foobar.deb control.tar.gz | zcat | tar -tf -");
outfp = fopen("/var/lib/dpkg/info/foobar.list");
while (fgets(buf, sizeof(buf), inp) && !feof(inp))
{
p = buf; if (*p == '.') p++;
fputs(p, outp);
}
fclose(outfp);
pclose(infp);

Gross

Suggestions and code contributions welcome :>
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CVS Update: debian-installer

[Randolph Chung]

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Changes by: tausq@va.   00/08/23 23:22:13

debian-installer/tools/udpkg

Update of /cvs/debian-boot/debian-installer/tools/udpkg
In directory va:/usr/debian/tmp/cvs-serv18517/udpkg

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CVS Update: debian-installer

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debian-installer/tools

Update of /cvs/debian-boot/debian-installer/tools
In directory va:/usr/debian/tmp/cvs-serv18492/tools

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Re: Anyone else have CheapBytes CD trouble?

[Chris Peterson]

Yes, I apparently have the same problem. I bought Debian 2.2 CD-Rs from
Cheapbytes and Setup complains about missing rescue floppies. blah... I
guess that's $$ down the drain.

chris


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From: "Eric Hanchrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 8:53 PM
Subject: Anyone else have CheapBytes CD trouble?


> I just received my Debian 2.2 CDs from Cheapbytes -- 3 binary
> CD-ROMS.  I could not boot off the first one (the installation program
> complained that it couldn't mount the rescue image).
>
> I decided to run `md5sum' on each file on the CD-ROM, and compare its
> output with the file /cdrom/md5sum.txt.  I was surprised to find that
> they differed.  Here's how I did it:
>
> (cd /cdrom; find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5sum)
>
> Here's one file whose sum isn't what the md5sum file says it should be
> (there are many other such files):
>
> 7eea9e34469920cf5b3de06e527186bb
./dists/potato/main/disks-i386/2.2.16-2000-07-14/images-1.44/rescue.bin
> dc8e866f3a26cfa8a38f15d328519c92
./dists/potato/main/disks-i386/2.2.16-2000-07-14/images-1.44/rescue.bin
>
> Some of the files seem to be random data; one file whose name ends in
> `.tgz' is actually text.
>
> Has anyone else had this problem?
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Re: Anyone else have CheapBytes CD trouble?

[Nate Amsden]

Yes, i had a similar problem over a year ago with Slink(2.1) i got a 2
cd set and not only did they only send me 1 cd out of the 2, the 1 cd
they sent was useless, it was FULL of curropted archives.

cheapbytes is cheap shit, they will never get my business again(they
never returned calls or emails about my stuff), i suggest using
www.linuxmall.com if you want cheap linux cds(i haven't had any problems
with them yet) also i'd avoid CDRd cds as well as they are sometimes
difficult to read in normal cdroms, getting the "real" pressed cds can
take several weeks from release but it is worth the wait.

nate

Eric Hanchrow wrote:
> 
> I just received my Debian 2.2 CDs from Cheapbytes -- 3 binary
> CD-ROMS.  I could not boot off the first one (the installation program
> complained that it couldn't mount the rescue image).
> 
> I decided to run `md5sum' on each file on the CD-ROM, and compare its
> output with the file /cdrom/md5sum.txt.  I was surprised to find that
> they differed.  Here's how I did it:
> 
> (cd /cdrom; find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5sum)
> 
> Here's one file whose sum isn't what the md5sum file says it should be
> (there are many other such files):
> 
> 7eea9e34469920cf5b3de06e527186bb  
>./dists/potato/main/disks-i386/2.2.16-2000-07-14/images-1.44/rescue.bin
> dc8e866f3a26cfa8a38f15d328519c92  
>./dists/potato/main/disks-i386/2.2.16-2000-07-14/images-1.44/rescue.bin
> 
> Some of the files seem to be random data; one file whose name ends in
> `.tgz' is actually text.
> 
> Has anyone else had this problem?
> 
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Anyone else have CheapBytes CD trouble?

[Eric Hanchrow]

I just received my Debian 2.2 CDs from Cheapbytes -- 3 binary
CD-ROMS.  I could not boot off the first one (the installation program
complained that it couldn't mount the rescue image).

I decided to run `md5sum' on each file on the CD-ROM, and compare its
output with the file /cdrom/md5sum.txt.  I was surprised to find that
they differed.  Here's how I did it:

(cd /cdrom; find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5sum)

Here's one file whose sum isn't what the md5sum file says it should be
(there are many other such files):

7eea9e34469920cf5b3de06e527186bb  
./dists/potato/main/disks-i386/2.2.16-2000-07-14/images-1.44/rescue.bin
dc8e866f3a26cfa8a38f15d328519c92  
./dists/potato/main/disks-i386/2.2.16-2000-07-14/images-1.44/rescue.bin

Some of the files seem to be random data; one file whose name ends in
`.tgz' is actually text.

Has anyone else had this problem?

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Processed: reassign to base-config

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Bug#67641: APT Configurator ignores "local" and other unknown package areas
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Processed: Re: Bug#67640: Can only install non-US from non-US.debian.org

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Re: FWD: Problems with pre2 2.2

[Adam Di Carlo]

Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Trae McCombs wrote:
> > Mount a previously initilized partition, it sees you have win95, and says you
> > need to use vfat, however, it writes it to the fstab table as being msdos.
> > Which is a bad thing, long file names won't work for people.
> 
> Trae was installing from a slightly hacked potato CD, using a different
> kernel build from the beta official cd's. However, I suspect this is a
> general problem.

I don't quite understand the bug.  What is writing to the fstab table?
Can this be formulated as a buf report?

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Re: confusing message during disk format

[Adam Di Carlo]

"Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > 
> > Ugh.Unfortunately, the YesNoBox doesn't support defaulting to No.
> > Can't we just change the wording maybe?
> > 
> 
> I am trying to avoid an action, yet clicking yes?  That is plain wrong.

It's just a question of phrasing.  Like, "yes, I would like the faster
mode that assumes my disk is fine.".

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Bug#67722: PCMCIA/network conflict (cf #66284)

[Adam Di Carlo]

Toby White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Using boot-floppies 2.2.16, the bug described in #66284 seemed
> to occur. That is, PCMCIA configuration went quite happily,
> but then setting up the network seemed to try to reinitialise
> the PCMCIA system again, and failed.

Using which set of install disks?  We need to know this because this
is almost always a kernel/pcmcia bug, not a boot-floppies bug.

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Re: Installed base-config 0.34 (source i386)

[Adam Di Carlo]

Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Changes: 
>  base-config (0.34) unstable; urgency=low
>  .
>* Added Japanese translation from Akira YOSHIYAMA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Not uploading yet though.
>* Changed stage5 check to only prompt about logging in if
>  /root/dbootstrap_settings exists. Closes: #67358
>* Freshened Mirrors.masterlist to fix swedish mirror data, Closes: #66755
>.
>* I held off on this release since it couldn't get into potato anyway.
>  I'm uploading it to woody now. IMHO, this could be slipped into potato
>  in a point release. Perhaps.

So.  This looks like the last of the Potato-compat base-configs.
Should it be re-uploaded for proposed-updates?

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Bug#68716: marked as done ([slink, i386] problem booting no-name AMD)

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Package: boot-CDRom
Version: "Official" Debian 2.1, the 4 disk version.

architecture:  x86 Family 5 Model 8 Stepping 12, AuthenticAMD
model: no name
memory:64M
scsi:  none
cd-rom: Teac 6X: CD-56E, IDE/ATAPI
network card:  network interface card, if any
pcmcia:none

I tried every methord of installing but it froze every time at the same spot.

It froze at line: md driver 0.36.3 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8

I got the furthest by booting from the second disk.
It installed the base system but when I booted from the floppy(I choose to
boot from floppy instead of from hard disk) it froze at the md line.

I am totally new to linux or unix, so any direction you give me please keep
that in mind.

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You reported a bug on Slink, but that distribution is no longer
supported.  Please use the Potato (2.2) distribution.

If you have booting problems, please try the -idepci and -compact
rescue/root/driver sets.

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Processed: Re: Bug#65606: Close the bug

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Bug#65606: No installation of LILO to logical partition?
Bug reassigned from package `base' to `boot-floppies'.

> severity 63198 normal
Bug#63198: boot-floppies: Don't put the lilo boot record in the extended partition
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> merge 65606 63198 64823
Bug#63198: boot-floppies: Don't put the lilo boot record in the extended partition
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Bug#65606: Close the bug

[Adam Di Carlo]

reassign 65606 boot-floppies
severity 63198 normal
merge 65606 63198 64823
thanks

Edward Betts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Well I recommend closing the bug. What do the maintainer and submitter think?

I think it should be fixed.

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Re: building i18ned docs

[Adam Di Carlo]

Marcin Owsiany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> So either index.en.html should be translated and TARGETDOCS definition
> should contain index$(DESTEXT).html, or there should not be such thing as
> "index$(DESTEXT).html" at all in the Makefile.

Is this fixed or still outstanding?

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Re: using addon pack for base (Re: not i18ned part in b-f 2.2.15)

[Adam Di Carlo]

Taketoshi Sano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[ADDON discussion clipped]
> > Using this scheme, we can use the same base tar ball for all
> > languages, with some extra language pack which consist of 
> > required packages for a language.
> > 
> > I think this will not affect the main C/english only system, and
> > add enhancement for some languages which needs their special packages.
> 
> How do you think about this ? Having several localized base tar ball
> is not smart solution for Debian, I think. If the "official" Debian
> b-f does have the scheme to use add-on pack on the single base tar ball,
> then it will work for all localized installer, I think.

I definate want to avoid at all costs specialized bases. 

I am not against some addl little hacks for i18n though.

You should coordinate with Marcin Owsiany
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> about the strategy for i18n bf.
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Re: [potato] last not i18ned part in bf and more

[Adam Di Carlo]

Marcin Owsiany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> It seems the only way to go is make a wrapper script. I tested that, and
> debconf works OK (i.e. the templates show in Polish, and the only
> untranslated things are yes/no buttons and two messages (in the background
> and at the top of the box), which are not important).
> 
> So what's the decision? Is the script going to be added to base-files?

This is done.

> 2). Is there any reason that country names (eg. during TZ or kbd selection)
> are not _()-ed ?

I don't think so.  Try it and see.

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Bug#60872: marked as done ([slink] dbootstrap requiring unexisting file resc1440-2.0.38.bin)

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Package: dbootstrap
Version: 2.1.11

I'm installing debian linux from HD (I don't have floppies). version 
2.1.11, 28 august 1999

I'm using a laptop, ACER Extensa 390, with W98 on the first partition.

I downloaded the necessary files, as described in the installation manual,=
 
and I started loadlin without the configuration files of w98.

All OK until dbootstrap arrives to "installing kernel and modules".

Selecting the installation from a no-mounted disk. The installation can't 
go on because the program ask for the file resc1440-2.0.38.bin, that 
doesn't exist on my HD (exist resc1440.bin). It continue asking for this 
file, that asoluteli doesn't exist on the HD

I tried to rename resc1440.bin to resc1440-2.0.38.bin, but it doesn't 
resolve. All continue as before.

The situation is igual even if the first, w98, partition is mounted. 
dbootstrap keeps asking for resc1440-2.0.38.bin.



How may I find a little help to resolve my problem and install debian 
linux?

Buon giubileo!

d. Paolo Benvenuto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - PGP Public Key available
Guaricano - Santo Domingo - Rep=FAblica Dominicana
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Vedi anche il sito di mio fratello don Giovanni:
 http://www.giobenve.cjb.net :
  materiale pastorale, "preti on line", pagine di cronaca bianca, ecc.

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Try the 'potato' installation system.   The bug you reported is
against Slink, which is no longer supported.

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Bug#69793: IBM PC Server 320 (MCA/PCI Pentium) cannot boot

[Adam Di Carlo]

era eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The 256KB cache is enabled,

Hmmm. You might *try* turning that off.

> the PCI slot interrupts (#1 and #2) are
> set up on "auto-select" (should I do this by hand? I get to choose the
> IRQs myself if I want to)

I doublt that's the problem.

> and I've basically disabled all the ROM
> shadowing (not a lot of it was enabled anyway; I think I turned off
> the video shadowing but all the others were already disabled).

That's good.

The error you get:

Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address daf1
current->tss.cr3 = 00101000, %cr3 = 00101000
*pde = 
Oops: 
CPU:0
EIP:0010:[]
EFLAGS: 0010046

I dont' know what we can do about this.  Have you tried the different
kernels (non SCSI for instance) to see if they behave the same?

Maybe bad ram?

I mean, if you can't boot linux you can't boot and there's probably
littel we can do.  Have you tried Tom's Boot Disk?
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Re: Translated floppies?

[Adam Di Carlo]

peter karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Adam Di Carlo:
> 
> > Have you updated the Swedish release notes and install manual?  
> 
> No, I have not translated those (and I don't think they even exist). I do
> not have time to do that, I have concentrated on translating the actual
> floppies, since I think it is better to translate those than to translate
> the documentation, if there is a selection to be made.

Probably true enough.  Although the release notes are pretty small.

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Re: XF86_SVGA missing?

[Adam Di Carlo]

"Conrad Delbert Seaman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am trying to install the X window system and I run XF86Setup, only to find
> the following error when it tries to connect.
> 
> XF86_SVGA no such file
> 
> then the boot of the X window server fails.
> 
> could someone point me in the right direction?
> I'm guessing I need to install the svga server? because I didn't previously?
> but as I said, I'm no genius...

Did you try anXious ?  did that fail for you?  That should help you
pick an X server.

If that doesn't work (there are a lot of video cards it doesn't know
about) then you might need to manually figure out which xserver you
need for your video card and install that.

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Re: bf rewrite?

[Marcus Brinkmann]

Hi,

On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 01:19:44PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
> I've heard plans to make the hurd always use linux to install.

You should probably check your sources.

> I hope there are hurd folks on this list (debian-boot).

I will try to check occasionally, but as the Hurd distribution is in an early
stage, we don't have a concrete picture on how the final install will look
like. However, we will have a base system just like linux has, and we will
have a boot disk, but we will need an extra root disk, too. (You are right
that a complete system doesn't fit on one floppy).

If you keep the individual steps in the installer modular, it should be
straightforward to replace some of them with hurd specific ones, leave out
others and add our own.

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Bug#69197: base: Inadequate backup instructions and tools

[Adam Di Carlo]

era eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I know how to do that. A naive user who is getting acquainted with
> Unix in general and Debian in particular is probably completely
> ignorant about backup tools and procedures. My point is that while the
> Debian handbook (or whatever it's called) says a lot about how you get
> up and running, and stay that way, it doesn't even mention making
> backups.

That's a valid point.  You should probably point this out to
debian-doc, where we deal with generalities of debian documnetation,
perhaps file a bug against the faq (not even sure the pkg name), etc.?

I hope I don't give the wrong impression.  I applaud your desire to
improve debian for the rest of us.  I just have a lot of bugs to deal
with.

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Re: debinst, debconf & postinst.

[Joey Hess]

bug1 wrote:
> The woody installer is planning on being based around a debconf like
> program.
> 
> I read in a recent posts (cant find it right now) about postinst stuff
> being unwelcome, to make everything preconfigurable.

Well we discussed it, and found cases where questions do have to be
asked in the postinst if the package needs to be able to reliably handle
failure cases.

> I think the debian installer could make a lot of use of a post install
> type setup.

I agree, I think it will be useful to be able to make the postinsts of
the installer's packages use debconf. Preconfiguration is not
particularly useful on the installer.

> I think that there are two clearly different functions that need to be
> catered for.
> 
> debconf: Package installation, configuring the package to work on the
> system.
> debian installer: Using the functionality provided by the package. 
>
> So im thinking that rather than trying to reimplement the current
> functionality of debconf in c for the installer, it would be better to
> try and create a "cousin" of debconf focusing more on implementing the
> functionality provided by packages in a standard way.

I disagree. Debconf can currently handle both situations, and the
debconf used on the installer should be able to as well. It doesn't
really take any additional code to support this.

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Re: bf rewrite?

[Joey Hess]

Nathan Valentine wrote:
> It might also be nice work out some way to make the install
> code work well with both Linux and the Hurd. I looked at some
> of the code before thinking that maybe I could hack out some
> very basic Hurd install disks, but it was just too hairy.

I've heard plans to make the hurd always use linux to install. I
don't think it's gonna fit on a floppy.. (On the other hand, perhaps a
hurd install from CD might be doable.)

I hope there are hurd folks on this list (debian-boot). We're
rewriting the Debian installer and it would be good to have input from
you as we design it to make sure it's useful for the hurd too.

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Re: [debian-installer] microdpkg

[Joey Hess]

Anthony Towns wrote:
> It also depends on what udpkg is going to be used for: there are probably
> different design constraints if it has to work for populating a RAM disk
> before doing anything compared to if you've already got some scratch
> space on your hard disk.

udpkg is going to be used for the former. Maybe the latter too, but
definitely the former.

It looks like we should probably get further along on the redesign
so we can begin to get some better idea of what udpkg needs to be able
to do. Maybe we don't need dependencies. Maybe we do.

(FWIW, Randolph is working on some 9 or 10k udpkg that does support
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Bug#69786: Documentation - important

[Martin Schulze]

Martin Schulze wrote:
> Package: boot-floppies
> Version: current (pre 2.2.17)
> 
> The following issues need to be documented.  I'm writing this bug report
> only because it should not be forgotten...
> 
> 1. The meaning of the "<...>"-button in the getDirBox()-dialog
> 
> 2. Preload modules from floppy, the first step by gemorin

Documenting this step is important since it seems that it jumps into
it in the middle of 'Configure Modules'.

Regards,

Joey

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Bug#69786: Documentation - important

[Josip Rodin]

On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 01:13:23PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
> Package: boot-floppies
> Version: current
> 
> The following issues need to be documented.  I'm writing this bug report
> only because it should not be forgotten...

BTW I read the following at
http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/2204/3/

   Once the kernel modules are properly installed, the user has to set some
   network configuration options, including naming the machine, and
   providing information about their PPP or ethernet connection. The
   installation manual lapses briefly at this point, but if the user
   gathered the appropriate information from the system administrator (or
   knows it off the top of his/her head), it's simple enough to configure
   things properly. This step can also be skipped if a working connection to
   the network isn't required to complete installation.

I wonder if we can fix the `brief lapse' in the installation manual...

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Re: Installing into DOS partition

[Martin Schulze]

Maisenbacher Matthias (K3/EMW4) * wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I was already asking this in debian-user, but nobody semmed to care.
> Now:
> 
> I tried to install potato into a DOS partition.
> First try: umsdos
> 
>   I copied umsdos.o into /tmp ann loaded it into the kernel,
>   but mount (in the boot flavour) wasn't able to mount -t umsdos.
>   When i (copied into /tmp and) tried the normal mount i got
>   problems because of the version of glibc.

You'll need to supply more information.  What is failing with umsdos.o?

Once you're able to mount, mount it on /target, the install routine
will accept that later.

> Second try: loop file system
> 
>No modules needed, but same problem with mount.

I installed potato into a file using loop (mount -o loop /mnt/file /target)
today, so this works, proven.

> Did i make any mistakes or is it really impossible to install Debian into a
> DOS partition?

It's not supported from scratch.

> Are there already any thoughts about improving that?

Provide proper patches :)

> Could I (until a Debian solution) use a statically linked mount?

If you find a way to move it around (if the floppies are too full)
sure.

> If this is the wrong list, please forgive
>  and point me to the right one.

Since some internal information is required, it's the proper one.

Regards,

Joey


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Bug#69793: IBM PC Server 320 (MCA/PCI Pentium) cannot boot

[era eriksson]

On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:54:53 -0500, Nathan E Norman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 04:45:37PM +0300, era eriksson wrote:
 > [ snip ]
 >> Package: boot-floppies
 >> Version: (potato
 >> 
 >> architecture: i386
 >> model:IBM PC Server 320
 >> memory:   48MB
 > Configured how?

The POST says 1024k base, 48128KB extended (?), and 256k cache. (The
message flashes by so fast I can't catch what exactly it's saying.)

BIOS says System Memory 640KB, Extended Memory 47MB, Cache Size 256KB,
Shadow RAM 384KB; System ROM F000h-h. The video card also has
1024KB of memory (obviously?)

If it matters at all, BIOS also tells me, under Product Data:

  Machine Type/Model  8640MY0
  Flash EEPROM Revision Level BUKT10AUS
  System Board Identifier 13LLN2AD48R
  System Serial Number553L2D8
  BIOS Date   10/27/95

The 256KB cache is enabled, the PCI slot interrupts (#1 and #2) are
set up on "auto-select" (should I do this by hand? I get to choose the
IRQs myself if I want to) and I've basically disabled all the ROM
shadowing (not a lot of it was enabled anyway; I think I turned off
the video shadowing but all the others were already disabled).

 > Manuals should be available from IBM as PDF docs.  IBMs support site
 > is good (when it's up!)

I looked at it briefly but I'm not a glutton for hardware
documentation. If there's something I absolutely need to have I'd
appreciate a pointer. Thanks :-)

 >> The "Pentium 75" is a bit puzzling because while BIOS and the guy who
 >> sold it say it's a 90MHz model, Debian and the tech spec page I found
 >> on IBM's web server say 75MHz. Hmm.
 > Sounds like it's overclocked.  I'd ensure the system board jumpers are
 > set correctly for a 75 MHz Pentium.

I'll try to figure this out.

Thanks for your incredibly fast response!

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Bug#13021: marked as done (boot-floppies: basesystem via FTP)

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Package: boot-floppies
Version: 1.2.23

I think there is enough space on the boot floppies to include ftp on it. It
would be nice to be able to get the base system tarball via ftp instead of
needing an NFS server around.

Also: Why do the boot-floppies require a driver disk? There are certainly
situations where I do not need any drivers from the driver disk. Could
the driver disk be gotten via FTP or so too?

The CD-ROm boots directly into the rescue disk. But how does it then get the
driver disk?

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Versions of the packages boot-floppies depends on:
libc5-pic   Not installed or no info
ncurses3.0-pic  Not installed or no info
mkrboot Not installed or no info
dosfstools  Not installed or no info
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> Package: boot-floppies
> Version: 1.2.23

Being old...

> I think there is enough space on the boot floppies to include ftp on it. It
> would be nice to be able to get the base system tarball via ftp instead of
> needing an NFS server around.

The boot-floppies now support HTTP for the base system which is
more comfortable, I believe.

> Also: Why do the boot-floppies require a driver disk? There are certainly
> situations where I do not need any drivers from the driver disk. Could
> the driver disk be gotten via FTP or so too?

You can skip the drivers disk or install it via fd0/fd1/mounted/harddisk.
If you only need a couple of drivers you can load them from an extra disk
as well (from 2.2.17 and newer, not released yet)

Regards,

Joey

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Bug#69197: base: Inadequate backup instructions and tools

[era eriksson]

On 23 Aug 2000 10:41:53 -0400, Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > era eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 >> On 22 Aug 2000 22:48:17 -0400, Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >> > I don't understand.  The base system is meant to be a minimally
 >> > functional system, not a rescue system for recovery.  It will be
 >> > getting *smaller* in time, not larger.
 >> Sorry, "base" is probably the inappropriate category for this. Blame
 >> the instructions in "bug" for instructing me to submit this as a bug
 >> in "base", though. Anyhow, I'll try to find a better category. (I
 >> think I saw something in the Policy manual about where to report
 >> "fundamental" Debian problems.)
 > Well, then, I stil don't understand what you are reporting.  
 > My point is that if you want backup software, you install it.  There
 > are plenty of backup packages in Debian -- try 'apt-cache search
 > backup'.

I know how to do that. A naive user who is getting acquainted with
Unix in general and Debian in particular is probably completely
ignorant about backup tools and procedures. My point is that while the
Debian handbook (or whatever it's called) says a lot about how you get
up and running, and stay that way, it doesn't even mention making
backups.

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Bug#69793: IBM PC Server 320 (MCA/PCI Pentium) cannot boot

[Nathan E Norman]

On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 04:45:37PM +0300, era eriksson wrote:
[ snip ]
> Package: boot-floppies
> Version: (potato
> 
> architecture: i386
> model:IBM PC Server 320
> memory:   48MB

Configured how?

> scsi: AIC-7870
> cd-rom:   ... it just says IBM CDRM0103 or something like that (SCSI #6)

Probably an 4x SCSI ...

> network card: (yes; dunno exactly)

AFAIK it's a pcnet32 or a lance.

> pcmcia:   N/A
> video:Cirrus Logic GD-54xx VGA
> disk: IBM DFHSS2F 2150 Mb (SCSI #0)
> cpu:  single P90 (second processor slot free) [could be P75: see below]
> 
> I bought this system second hand (original vintage 1995 circa :-), so
> I don't really have any manuals. I've been looking in the BIOS
> settings etc to find out as much as possible, but some of this is pure
> guesswork.

Manuals should be available from IBM as PDF docs.  IBMs support site
is good (when it's up!)

> The "Pentium 75" is a bit puzzling because while BIOS and the guy who
> sold it say it's a 90MHz model, Debian and the tech spec page I found
> on IBM's web server say 75MHz. Hmm.

Sounds like it's overclocked.  I'd ensure the system board jumpers are
set correctly for a 75 MHz Pentium.

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Installing into DOS partition

[Maisenbacher Matthias (K3/EMW4) *]

Hi,

I was already asking this in debian-user, but nobody semmed to care.
Now:

I tried to install potato into a DOS partition.
First try: umsdos

  I copied umsdos.o into /tmp ann loaded it into the kernel,
  but mount (in the boot flavour) wasn't able to mount -t umsdos.
  When i (copied into /tmp and) tried the normal mount i got
  problems because of the version of glibc.

Second try: loop file system

   No modules needed, but same problem with mount.

Did i make any mistakes or is it really impossible to install Debian into a
DOS partition?
Are there already any thoughts about improving that?
Could I (until a Debian solution) use a statically linked mount?


   Matthias Maisenbacher

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Bug#69197: base: Inadequate backup instructions and tools

[Adam Di Carlo]

era eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 22 Aug 2000 22:48:17 -0400, Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > I don't understand.  The base system is meant to be a minimally
>  > functional system, not a rescue system for recovery.  It will be
>  > getting *smaller* in time, not larger.
> 
> Sorry, "base" is probably the inappropriate category for this. Blame
> the instructions in "bug" for instructing me to submit this as a bug
> in "base", though. Anyhow, I'll try to find a better category. (I
> think I saw something in the Policy manual about where to report
> "fundamental" Debian problems.)
> 
> Sorry for taking up your time with this,

Well, then, I stil don't understand what you are reporting.  

My point is that if you want backup software, you install it.  There
are plenty of backup packages in Debian -- try 'apt-cache search
backup'.

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Re: Why crash ? :)

[Martin Schulze]

Benjamin Constant wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to make my own boot-floppies with my own (debian based)
> graphical text menu but when i try to execute main_menu_test, i simply
> get a segmentation fault... : )

Use the CVS version, that works, just tested it 10secs ago.

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Processed: hmm

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> retitle 67378 [CVS-fixed] Potato test-cycle-1 omits /dev/sg*
Bug#67378: Potato test-cycle-1 omits /dev/sg*
Changed Bug title.

> retitle 66326 [CVS-fixed] images-1.44/rescue.bin
Bug#66326: images-1.44/rescue.bin
Changed Bug title.

> retitle 66030 [CVS-fixed] Tries to read past end of driver-3.bin
Bug#66030: tries to read past end of driver-3.bin
Changed Bug title.

> retitle 67082 [CVS-fixed] "Choose debian archive" box confusing
Bug#67082: "Choose debian archive" box confusing
Changed Bug title.

> retitle 64408 [nonbug?] boot-floppies: DHCP detection does not set domainname
Bug#64408: boot-floppies: DHCP detection does not set domainname
Changed Bug title.

> retitle 64371 [kernel] Re: Smart Array RAID Compaq do not see at boot
Bug#64371: Smart Array RAID Compaq do not see at boot
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(By the way, that Bug is currently marked as done.)

> retitle 61373 [CVS-fixed] install path must end with / if it's symlink
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> retitle 60872 [slink] dbootstrap requiring unexisting file resc1440-2.0.38.bin
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> retitle 59312 [insufficient info] boot-floppies: dbootstrap aborts when using raid 
>partitions
Bug#59312: boot-floppies: dbootstrap aborts when using raid partitions
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Bug#64823: incorrect LILO automatic placement on i386

[cmartin]

Hello, 

Le 22 Aoû, Adam Di Carlo écrivait à propos de "Re: Bug#64823: incorrect LILO automatic 
placement on i386"
> Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> > I choose "make linux directly bootable from hard disk"
>> > 
>> > Then a dialog box says my disk is factory clean.
>> > Then a dialog box asks for an MBR. I answer no
>>   ^^
>> 
>> I guess I simply don't understand.  If you don't want an MBR installed,
>> don't whine because it does not install one.
> 
> This is actually about using a separate MBR program.  The user, I
> think, wants to skip that and just use lilo as the MBR program.
This is exactly what I wanted to do.

> 
>> Please enlighten the with the above comment.
>> 
>> I'm willing to work on the bug, but first I need to understand the
>> bug.
> 
> I think we have identified that dbootstrap prevents the installation
> of lilo as the MBR when the root partition is an extended partition.
> This limitation was once based on a factual limitation in lilo, one
> that no longer exists.
That's the problem.

regards,
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Bug#69793: IBM PC Server 320 (MCA/PCI Pentium) cannot boot

[era eriksson]

Package: boot-floppies
Version: (potato

architecture: i386
model:IBM PC Server 320
memory:   48MB
scsi: AIC-7870
cd-rom:   ... it just says IBM CDRM0103 or something like that (SCSI #6)
network card: (yes; dunno exactly)
pcmcia:   N/A
video:Cirrus Logic GD-54xx VGA
disk: IBM DFHSS2F 2150 Mb (SCSI #0)
cpu:  single P90 (second processor slot free) [could be P75: see below]

I bought this system second hand (original vintage 1995 circa :-), so
I don't really have any manuals. I've been looking in the BIOS
settings etc to find out as much as possible, but some of this is pure
guesswork.

Apparently the system is MCA but there's PCI too.

The system freezes rather early in the boot process. I'm using the
Potato CD images (tried both disk 1 and 2) downloaded perhaps a week
ago (by a friend -- don't know exactly from where).

I have tried a Debian 2.1 floppy and that one got significantly
farther into the boot process before freezing (with no useful message;
looked like the other MCA incompatible installations I've tried
[OpenBSD install floppy; FreeBSD or something too]). It just stops
doing things and sits there. But I gather that one isn't even supposed
to work on MCA machines.

With the 2.2 CD, booting off the CD, I get a panic-like message which
tells me explicitly how wrong things are. I cannot figure out how to
proceed from here. Any tips would be most valuable.

I have typed in what I could from the screen but there may be typos ...

This was produced with "boot: linux aic7xxx=no_probe". I have tried
without this option, and tried some other options, too; details below.

 begin typed-in "screen shot" 
Page cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0 initialized
CPU: Intel Pentium 75 - 200 stepping 05
Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error reporting.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
Checking for popad bug... OK.
Intel Pentium with F0 0F bug - workaround enabled.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address daf1
current->tss.cr3 = 00101000, %cr3 = 00101000
*pde = 
Oops: 
CPU:0
EIP:0010:[]
EFLAGS: 0010046
eax: b101   ebx: b101   exc:    edx: 
esi:    edi: c02b39f4   ebp: c2ff9f70   esp: c2ff9f70
ds: 0018   es: 0018   ss:0018
Process swapper (pid: 1, process nr: 1, stackpage=c2ff9f70
Stack:  0086 c02facda 0010 c00fdae0   
   000fdb2d 0286 0f00 c02f7fd4  c02fae32  c02fb798
   0f00 c02f7fd4 c0312e12  c02f8d4a 0f00 c02f7fd4 
Call Trace: [] []
Code: 2e a0 f1 da 00 00 c4 00 00 00 00 00 87 1c b0 24 a4 b2 90 4b

- end typed-in "screen shot" -

Specifying the mca-pentium boot option doesn't make any difference.
(The FPU coupling test is skipped, it says "No FDIV bug? Lucky you ..."
but other than that, I see no difference.)

Disabling the hlt check (specifying the option no-hlt) doesn't make
any difference.

Optimistically trying the (made up) option no-posix doesn't affect
anything either :-)

(Incidentally, the screen goes blank after some time and there doesn't
appear to be any way to turn it back on. This didn't happen with the
2.1 floppy.)

I've tried turning off ROM shadowing of the video area at c-c7fff
but this didn't matter either.

I looked in the BIOS settings for other stuff which looked relevant
for the error message above but couldn't find anything pertaining to
addresses around 101000 (though there was something around f) or
daf1.

I have other machines available nearby so I can try to run over a
serial console to capture any significant messages before these (but
it's a bit of a hassle for me).

Any hints? I'm not a hardware/kernel person so be gentle ... Thanks!

/* era */

I will gladly trade this monster for something more or less equivalent
that works with U*x-like free operating systems. :-)

The guy who sold it didn't exactly give me a guarantee that it would
work with Linux but I did ask, and I guess I could force him to take
it back ...

The "Pentium 75" is a bit puzzling because while BIOS and the guy who
sold it say it's a 90MHz model, Debian and the tech spec page I found
on IBM's web server say 75MHz. Hmm.

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Why crash ? :)

[Benjamin Constant]

Hi,
I'm trying to make my own boot-floppies with my own (debian based) graphical
text menu but when i try to execute main_menu_test, i simply get a segmentation
fault... : )
Can someone help me please ?
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Re: Translated floppies?

[peter karlsson]

Adam Di Carlo:

> Have you updated the Swedish release notes and install manual?  

No, I have not translated those (and I don't think they even exist). I do
not have time to do that, I have concentrated on translating the actual
floppies, since I think it is better to translate those than to translate
the documentation, if there is a selection to be made.

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Bug#69786: Documentation - important

[Martin Schulze]

Package: boot-floppies
Version: current

The following issues need to be documented.  I'm writing this bug report
only because it should not be forgotten...

1. The meaning of the "<...>"-button in the getDirBox()-dialog

2. Preload modules from floppy, the first step by gemorin

3. Please check "choose directory within that medium that contains the
   Debian archive.  In slink you had to choose a directory within the
   mounted dir/partition/medium.  With 2.2.16 that was buggy and you'd
   had do enter /instmnt/foo/bar/debian, in 2.2.17 it will be within
   the mounted dir/partition/medium/whatever again.

4. Using an arbitrary device to install on.  I don't think this is
   documented already.  You can mount anything to /target and
   dbootstrap will continue.  This is required if you want to use some
   random raid system that isn't supported otherwise or if you want to
   use raid0/1/5 for your filesystem (enter the 2nd console,
   initialize it, mount it to /target, go back to the 1st and
   continue)

Regards,

Joey

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Bug#58984: marked as done ("Choose Debian archive path" dialog box unclear)

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Package: boot-floppies
Version: 2.2.7

Hi,

when installing the base system by nfs, one gets a dialog box
"Choose Debian archive path".

There is a "<...>"-field on the right side of the box. It remains
unclear what this entry field is good for.

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> Package: boot-floppies
> Version: 2.2.7
> 
> Hi,
> 
> when installing the base system by nfs, one gets a dialog box
> "Choose Debian archive path".
> 
> There is a "<...>"-field on the right side of the box. It remains
> unclear what this entry field is good for.

Well, what do you expect?  Looks like "more options" or something.
Just try it.  I agree, we could use 'browse' but that would be three
chars more...  Since the dialog is already somewhat wide, I'd rather
leave it that way.  (or use 'dir')

Regards,

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Bug#64371: marked as done (Smart Array RAID Compaq do not see at boot)

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Package: boot-floppy
Version: 2.2.15
Severity: critical


I'm trying to install Potato on a Proliant 400 with a Smart Array RAID 
211 card. 

At boot, the Potato CD do not see the card.

The server is equiped with 3 disks using RAID 5. No disk on the 
motherboard SCSI port. The RAID card is on first PCI bus close to the ISA 
bus and the system say: Slot 4

Proliant bios version: F01
Smart RAID Card Firware Revision: 4.16

I tested the logical unit with the Compaq diagnostic and all seems to be 
fine. The Compaq utility CD well created the Compaq partition on the 
logical disk.

Is-it normal? I supposed that this RAID card was well supported. Do we 
have a way to "force" lilo to discover the card at boot?

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Submittor confirmed it's old and found the solution.

Regards,

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