Re: &mdash in boot-floppies/documentation

2000-09-26 Thread Michael Sobolev

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 07:10:35PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 07:40:41PM +0200, Van Buggenhaut wrote:
> > > On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 04:54:50PM +0100, Martin Keegan wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Van Buggenhaut wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > I just checked the web pages and apparently (on my Nestcape, at least) 
>— isn't converted at all, which is quite ugly !
> > > > 
> > > > Well it should depend entirely on your DTD ...
> 
> > Actually, the correct answer here is: it should depend on your sgml
> > processor.  :) Netscape is known to not process correctly certain
> > ISO entities. IE does the job much better in this very case.
> 
> Hmm.  Sounds like a bug on debiandoc-sgml...   Can anyone look into
> that?
Do you really think it's a bug?

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Re: Boot problems with a QLogic ISP1020 card

2000-09-26 Thread Adam Di Carlo

Randy Gordner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> After hitting enter the install kernel start to load, when it starts to 
> probe for scsi controllers it throws up all over my QLogic ISP1020 card.
> The messages go by so fast I can't begin to tell you what they say.
> The screen is filled with all kinds of registers all over the screen when 
> the boot fails.

Sounds like kernel panic !

> I have tried an endless combination of boot arguments suggested by the 
> install program.
> The QLogic ISP1020 isn't listed in the F6 screen. I did try some of the 
> ideas put forth in the help screen.
> The kernel seems to identify the controller, I can see the name fly by as 
> the program fails.
> The error doesn't seem to change no matter what I do.
> 
> I have even disconnected the scsi drives from the card, no change.

Are you using the vanilla flavor?  Have you tried the 'compact'
flavor?

You'll have to file a bug against kernel-image-2.2.17-compact if that
doesn't work.  Hmmm. You need the CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_ISP defined in
your kernel.  I'm not sure if that's included perhaps not.

Hope he can do something about it.  There are always limitations to
all the cards we can support on i386.  Another alternative may be to
replace the kernel -- see the Installation Manual for some notes about
that.

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Re: [debian-installer] Build setup?

2000-09-26 Thread Adam Di Carlo

Martin Keegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On debian-boot, you wrote:
> 
> > Please read "Recursive Make Considered Harmful"
> > http://www.canb.auug.org.au/~millerp/rmch/recu-make-cons-harm.html>
> 
> Heresy.
> 
> :)
> 
> The boot-floppies installer is worse than what he describes, as it does

Well, in this case, I would point the finger at our nasty icky
entirely gross top-level Makefile, rather than make.

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Re: Problems with installing debian 2.2

2000-09-26 Thread Adam Di Carlo

Veli-Matti Rautiainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > On 23 Sep 2000, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
> 
> > > there are multiple messages about modprobe failing. Then the installation
> > > program starts, and I do everything as it suggests. Everything goes
> 
>Expect that I forgot to format all the ext2fs partitions during 
> install. I managed to install it now, the problem was probably due 
> to the fact that there were not enough free hd space.  

Even so, you should probably file this as a bug... it should
recover/detect the condition of running out of disk space.  Do you
think you could file a wishlist for that?

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Re: &mdash in boot-floppies/documentation

2000-09-26 Thread Adam Di Carlo

Michael Sobolev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 07:40:41PM +0200, Van Buggenhaut wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 04:54:50PM +0100, Martin Keegan wrote:
> > > On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Van Buggenhaut wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I just checked the web pages and apparently (on my Nestcape, at least) — 
>isn't converted at all, which is quite ugly !
> > > 
> > > Well it should depend entirely on your DTD ...

> Actually, the correct answer here is: it should depend on your sgml
> processor.  :) Netscape is known to not process correctly certain
> ISO entities. IE does the job much better in this very case.

Hmm.  Sounds like a bug on debiandoc-sgml...   Can anyone look into
that?

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Bug#72479: Data Access Exception

2000-09-26 Thread Alan Bain

Hunting through some dusty sun hardware manuals reminds me of the
following which may be causing my problem.

In the IPX there are 4 memory banks which can hold either a 
1Mb (silly!), 4Mb, 8Mb or 16Mb SIMM (72 pin parity).  The memory
is not contiguous and each block is mapped onto a 16Mb boundary,
creating memory gaps.  The IPX which wont boot has 4 8Mb SIMMs making
non-contiguous memory.

My IPX which boots OK has one 16MB SIMM. Thus 0-16Mb is a contiguous
block.  

Maybe there is an erroneous hardcoded address which the RAMdisk
runs into by using direct physical memory access instead of 
going through the MMU allocation procedures.


Alan Bain



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Re: Problems with installing debian 2.2

2000-09-26 Thread Veli-Matti Rautiainen


> On 23 Sep 2000, Adam Di Carlo wrote:

> > there are multiple messages about modprobe failing. Then the installation
> > program starts, and I do everything as it suggests. Everything goes

   Expect that I forgot to format all the ext2fs partitions during 
install. I managed to install it now, the problem was probably due 
to the fact that there were not enough free hd space.  

> > Can anyone tell me more about the problem ?
> I don't know -- I haven't heard of this problem before.  I wonder if
> you're installing too many modules in your "configure modules" step
> and it's causing some problem...

   Yeah, nobody has been this stupid before. =) 


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Bug#72479: Data Access Exception

2000-09-26 Thread Alan Bain

Package: boot-floppies
Version: Debian
architecture: sparc
model: IPX/IPC
memory: 32MB
scsi: ESP
cd-rom: Toshiba (Sun CD-ROM)
network card: le0

I have been having trouble installing Debian Sparc on a number of
machines. The CD-ROM set worked fine on one of my machines
(IPX, 16Mb RAM).  I am using the same CD-ROM drive (genuine
Sun 512 byte blocks) on all machines.  I have even tried borrowing
a spare Toshiba PC SCSI CDROM which has exactly the same effects.


Sun IPX  (Bootprom version 2.3)  32Mb
Machine used to run NetBSD/SunOS fine.  The bootprom is rather old.
Using CG3 framebuffer (not the onboard CG6)

ok> boot cdrom 

[press return at prompt]

loads kernel, then loads ramdisk.  The spinner then stops and the
machine crashes.  L1+A does not return to the boot monitor, a full
power cycle is needed.


Sun IPC (bootprom version 2.9) 12Mb RAM
Using onboard BW2 FB
ok> boot cdrom

[press return at prompt]

Loads kernel.  Displays
Loading initial ramdisk and then stops with a 
Data Access Exception


Both machines pass all self tests in the Bootprom and used to run 
SunOS 4.1.1 without trouble.

I get similar results with another IPC (even older bootprom) which
doesn't understant boot cdrom; but a suitable incantation makes it
boot.

I'd be grateful for any suggestions!

Alan Bain


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