Re: the next step

2000-09-29 Thread Hartmut Koptein

 I feel that the design discussions have reached the point where we'll be
 more productive if we're talking about actual code. There are still many

Please create a picture of the layout/concept/modules. An picture says more
then 1000 

Thanks,


   Hartmut


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Bug#72479: Data Access Exception

2000-09-29 Thread Alan Bain

 
 Well, it certainly seems like this is an obscure SPARC hardware
 problem and you seem to have fixed it.
 
 Do you mind if I close this bug?  We don't really maintain any
 information on all the minutae of how to configure hardware for use
 with Linux -- there are SPARC/Linux HOWTOs and stuff for that...
 

 I don't mind at all (the bug being closed).  I'd spent two days fighting
 with the problem before filing a bug report.  As usual I only solved
 the problem after filing the bug report.  I do think something should
 go in the installation manual for the SPARC version about suggesting
 that the lowest memory block be contiguous.  

 I've checked version 2.2.17 of the install instructions and there is no
 mention of the problem, which I've confirmed exists on quite a few Suns.
 I'm happy to write a suitable couple of paragraphs (possibly to go
 in section 3.3.4 Bad Memory Modules).  However I'm not sure to whom I
 should send this.

Alan


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Re: raid support in install cds

2000-09-29 Thread Robert Varga



On 29 Sep 2000, Adam Di Carlo wrote:

 
 We do support some hardware raid devices.
 
 For the software raid root support you mention, that reuqires some pretty
 serious changes and cannot happen in potato updates.  This is an issue
 for the woody installer.
 
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Is it possible to carry out the changes I mentioned manually, without
needing to change the installer source, namely:

- is there an easy way to create an installer cd with a kernel
containing the 0.90 raid patches and the necessary files from raidtools2
included?

- is there a way to replace the kernel which is going to be installed by
the installer (to one containing raid0.90 patches and raid1 compiled into 
the kernel)?

- is there a way to manually carry out everything the installer does when
I mount a filesystem in the menu?

If this is possible then could you please tell me how to do it, or give
me an url at which I can find information regarding how to do it?

All it is needed to install debian directly onto root-raid with manual
help is this, since creating the raid arrays can be carried out manually,
and fstab and lilo.conf can be modified manually as well.

Regards,

Robert Varga


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Bug#72479: Data Access Exception

2000-09-29 Thread Adam Di Carlo

Alan Bain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I do think something should
  go in the installation manual for the SPARC version about suggesting
  that the lowest memory block be contiguous.  

  I've checked version 2.2.17 of the install instructions and there is no
  mention of the problem, which I've confirmed exists on quite a few Suns.
  I'm happy to write a suitable couple of paragraphs (possibly to go
  in section 3.3.4 Bad Memory Modules).  However I'm not sure to whom I
  should send this.

Just send the text to be added to the bug report -- I'll catch it and
include it.

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Bug#72672: problem installing to hdg w/ ultra66

2000-09-29 Thread Adam Di Carlo

Dmitry Belenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 ADC I assume youre using the udma66 set of boot-floppies.  Is that so?
 
 No, i'm entering kernel params, so kernel recognises everything
 perfectly. As I've said, I can mount my hdg (hdg2 to be precise)
 from another console. And it works. So, I thing this is installer bug.

What kernel parameters are you using?

Can you try the udma66 set w/o kernel params?

 ADC When you see the kernel messages at the start, does the kernel
 ADC recognize hdg?  You can type dmesg in tty2 to see those messages.
 
 Yes kernel recognises hdg OK. I'd like to remind you, that /boot and
 swap are on hde3 and hde4 respectively. So, maybe installer thinks
 that if there's something with partition type 83 on nde then it's
 sufficient. Sadly to say, but I've discovered this bug only in debian.
 RH 6.2, SuSE 6.4 and Slackware 7.1 are working OK. :0(

Yeah, well, this sounds like a real bug in boot-floppies (dbootstrap
in particular).

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Re: mdash in boot-floppies/documentation

2000-09-29 Thread Michael Sobolev

On Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 05:20:11PM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:
 In HTML, there is no portable way to represent an em-dash - except by
 using a plain old "-".
You mean two of them, do you not? :)

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Re: mdash in boot-floppies/documentation

2000-09-29 Thread Michael Sobolev

On Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 04:22:01PM -0500, Ardo van Rangelrooij wrote:
 I'll look into this.  The HTML translation map in debiandoc-sgml maps mdash to 
mdash
 which according to the HTML/XHTML book of O'Reilly doesn't exist.  Probably we need 
to
 use #151; but conformance is not guaranteed.  I'll check the whole table and let you
 know what's up.
According to Section 24 of HTML 4.01 specification, mdash is a valid entity. :)

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PCI autodetection

2000-09-29 Thread Will Lowe

Last night I put together some code from pciutils and Redhat's anaconda
and came up with a little program that asks the kernel about installed PCI
hardware and modprobes the needed drivers, using a little table.  I don't
know if it's useful or not for the next incarnation of boot-floppies, but
you can grab the code from

http://openrock.net/~lowe/pcidetect/pcidetect-1.0.tar.gz

Will



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debian accessibility

2000-09-29 Thread James R. Van Zandt


Torsten Landschoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do we have a blind volunteer who can help with testing the new
 installer? I think we should add support for blind people while we 
 are at redesigning the installer...

I forwarded this note to the blinux (blind Linux) list, and got three
volunteers.  In a separate message, I have suggested they subscribe to
debian-boot. 

- Jim Van Zandt


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Hello James!
I can be your volunter of testing the debian installation or blind paiple.
I to reinstall my debian so that would be a good trie for me.
/Anders.


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Hi Jim,

I might possibly be able to help do a bit of testing, provided it's not
that intensive (i.e. that versions don't come along too often).  Can't
commit to being very timely though...  

One point in this message I thought worth resopnding too which you might
want to pass on to the list:

On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, James R. Van Zandt wrote:

  This touches on the second way a blind person could install Debian -
  prerecord some configuration info then auto-install.  Red Hat's
  kickstart works this way - no need to go through one installation
  manually before auto-installations can start.  Please keep this
  scenario in mind while designing the new installer.
 
 Two new goals?
 
[snip]
 - - Document all installer variables so you can even install the first 
   system without user interaction

There's another great reason for implementing this
feature:  standardization.  The only reason, so I was told, that the
sysadmins here at U. of Toronto's Dept. of Comp. Sci. opted for RedHat is
that they could use it's KickStart procedure to make sure that all their
machines were configured identically--thus saving on administration and
allowing for more file sharing on their NFS'd network.  

Cheers,
Neil

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dear torstan

i am a blind computer science student in the uk. i heard your 
request for a blind individual to help make debian more accessible. 
i am by all means prepared to do this. what must i do?

please let me know.
regards, saqib shaikh


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Re: Fried Potato

2000-09-29 Thread Adam Di Carlo

"Akin O. Fernandez" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Greetings boot team, I'm having some problems installing.
 
 I am trying to install to my primary IDE using:
 
 CDROM Debian 2.2r0  official
 Arch: i386
 model: home built, intel motherboard
 memory 128megs
 CRROM: Hitachi, ATAPI 24x
 Network Card Dlink DFE-50rtx
 PCMCIA: none
 Soundcard Soundblaster AWE32
 Display card Mattrox G2
 
 I can boot the CD to the install menu, I start the install, and then the
 
 machine hangs at:
 
 *begin clip
 
 megaraid: V107 (Dec 22 1999)
 aec671x_detect:
 _
 
 *end clip*

Which install set (vanilla, idepci, compact, udma66) are you using?
You should probably be using idepci.

At what step does the hang happen?  Insert modules?  If so, you might
wanna try removing the sound card.


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Re: 2.2.17 now building for upload to potato

2000-09-29 Thread Adam Di Carlo

peter karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Adam Di Carlo:
 
  I'm now building for release boot-floppies 2.2.17.  
 
 Does this include the translated boot floppies?

No, no one has integrated that into the build process -- I guess it
was up to me (sigh) but I haven't had time.

Any volunteers?

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Re: raid support in install cds

2000-09-29 Thread Adam Di Carlo

Robert Varga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 - is there an easy way to create an installer cd with a kernel
 containing the 0.90 raid patches and the necessary files from raidtools2
 included?

Not easy, no.  It should be possible ifyou get the boot-floppies
package and muck with the source.

 - is there a way to replace the kernel which is going to be installed by
 the installer (to one containing raid0.90 patches and raid1 compiled into 
 the kernel)?

Sure, see the install manual for a sketchy discussion of this.  Better
yet, replace the kernel-image and pcmcia modules packages in 'local'
or 'Incoming' areas.

 - is there a way to manually carry out everything the installer does when
 I mount a filesystem in the menu?

Eh?

 If this is possible then could you please tell me how to do it, or give
 me an url at which I can find information regarding how to do it?

Use the source.  No easy way, unfortunately, yet.  Someone here may
have patches; I don't.

 All it is needed to install debian directly onto root-raid with manual
 help is this, since creating the raid arrays can be carried out manually,
 and fstab and lilo.conf can be modified manually as well.

Then why not just install normally to a non-raid root, and then
install the raid tools from that base system and go from there?

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Re: debian accessibility

2000-09-29 Thread Adam Di Carlo


Cool.  Please encourage them to file bugs.  I'm not sure how well
dbootstrap works on teletype or whatever devices (god I'm clueless)
the blind use.

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