Re: verbose & quiet

[David Kimdon]

It would be good to document that the bootargs exist, if it isn't
already documented.  I personally find this breakdown interesting, but
I think that's mostly because I find boot-floppies interesting in
general.

> Or is it fairly useless info that 
> will be difficult to keep up to date?

useless is a strong word, definately hard to keep up to date.

-David

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Bug#136328: #136328: b-f one-liner needs translating

[David Kimdon]

Hi,

We're still hoping to get the one-line translated.  The reason I'm
bugging y'all is this message is outside the .po files so it would be
easy for it to slip through the cracks. When you translate it try to
keep the length down to less than 67 characters, otherwise it may show
up poorly on the screen.

Thanks,

-David 

These still need someone to fix the translation:
chinese_s.src   date: 2001/08/27 11:21:56;
chinese_t.src   date: 2001/08/27 11:21:56;
croatian.srcdate: 2001/09/08 23:11:15;
czech.src   date: 2001/08/27 11:21:56;
galician.srcdate: 2002/02/28 19:09:21;
hungarian.src   date: 2002/02/28 18:59:25;
japanese.srcdate: 2002/03/02 00:36:26; 
norwegian.src   date: 2001/10/17 03:30:12; 
polish.src  date: 2001/08/27 11:21:56; 
portuguese.src  date: 2001/12/26 16:04:27;  
russian.src date: 2002/03/10 20:52:34; 
spanish.src date: 2002/02/28 15:49:25;
swedish.src date: 2002/02/28 15:49:25; 
turkish.src date: 2002/02/28 18:59:25; 


These appear to be fixed:
english.src date: 2002/03/02 02:31:36;
esperanto.src   date: 2002/03/07 22:08:16;
french.src  date: 2002/03/16 22:53:37;
danish.src  date: 2002/03/02 18:43:45; 
catalan.src date: 2002/03/04 14:04:49;
german.src  date: 2002/03/14 22:22:57; 
italian.src date: 2002/03/10 10:47:10; 



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Log Message:
  meant to put that entry under Junichi, moved it
  

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Bug#134014: bterm causes split screen

[Chris Tillman]

reassign 134014 bterm
quit

I verified the problem also occurs with the same video monitor using 
a different computer (9500). 

Then I went back in to the split-screen system to poke around. I
executed dbootstrap in console 2, and the non-language-chooser
dbootstrap came up and looked great. This could be a workaround if we
can't get this fixed; disable language-chooser on oldworlds.

Next, I did ps -a and noticed that bterm was actually running the
dbootstrap with the split screen (duh, well I figure things out even-
tually).

So I'm reassigning this to bterm; dbootstrap looks great on its own.

Let me know what else I can do to help run this down further; I'd hate 
to lose language-chooser for this.

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Repository: boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap
who:dwhedon
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Log Message:
  +- if we try a proxy, find that it doesn't work, then end up
  +  installing the base system without a proxy we need to set
  +  [HTTP|FTP]_PROXY='' in dbootstrap_settings.
  
  otherwise base-config tries to use a bad proxy
  

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Log Message:
  +- if we try a proxy, find that it doesn't work, then end up
  +  installing the base system without a proxy we need to set
  +  [HTTP|FTP]_PROXY='' in dbootstrap_settings.
  
  otherwise base-config tries to use a bad proxy
  

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Bug#134014: How can I help troubleshoot this?

[Chris Tillman]

This has been confirmed on another machine. I also checked it on an iMac, 
it did not occur there, with or without video=ofonly. Is there some way to 
troubleshoot this problem?

Maybe I could figure out when it started happening. Are older versions of 
boot-floppies archived anywhere, or would I have to build a specific version 
out of CVS?

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Bug#138679: boot-floppies: messages too long

[David Kimdon]

Package: boot-floppies
Version: N/A; reported 2002-03-16
Severity: minor

This message:
#: bootconfig.c:2498
msgid "Install LILO in the MBR (use this if unsure)."
msgstr ""
"Installer LILO dans le secteur d'amorçage principal (MBR) (utiliser ceci en "
"cas de doute)"

In fr mode is too long.  It scrolls off the screen, looks like this:

nstaller LILO dans le secteur d'amorçage principal (MBR) (utiliser ceci en cas de d

This could be fixed 2 ways:

1. make the phrase shorter since there is enough information in the top
of the box, there is much repitition on the screen (automatically
detecting similarily truncated phrases sounds hard.)

2. teach newt how to break lines properly.

Suggestions?

-David


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verbose & quiet

[Chris Tillman]

Here's a list of the effects verbose and quiet have on dbootstrap.

verbose:
For LiveCD, ask for the install media (should be livecd)
Always ask which mountpoint to mount volumes to
Warn that earlier kernels do not support newer filesystems
Warn that pre-2.4.1 kernels do not support ReiserFS 3.6

quiet:
Suppress confirm before writing the aboot bootloader
Suppress confirm before overwriting master boot record
Suppress 'Important Information about installed MBR'
Don't ask for confirm if only one archive path was found
No invitation to install additional modules from floppy
Don't mention that s390 doesn't support reboot
Suppress confirmation that detected interface is PCMCIA
Suppress message about successful DHCP configuration
Suppress long message about Lilo and large disk support
Suppress long message about PALO and large disk support
Suppress SGI disklabel note from Dvhtool
Don't chatter about how much disk space ReiserFS uses
Don't explain what Apple_Bootstrap is
Put the first partition mounted on / without asking
Don't offer to scan for bad blocks
Don't ask before initializing as XFS, ext2/3, ReiserFS, swap
Avoid trying to persuade a swap partition is good
Don't lecture before rebooting the system

Should this be documented somewhere? Or is it fairly useless info that 
will be difficult to keep up to date?

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Bug#138653: boot-floppies: Language chooser '#' on right hand side looks funny

[Junichi Uekawa]

David Kimdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit:

> On the right hand side of the language chooser screen there are ':'s and
> and a '#' in a column.  It is as if the '#' is supposed to line up with
> the current choice, but it doesn't.  The '#' does move down as I move
> the selection down, but at the top it is one row below the current
> choice, and by the time we get to the bottom it is 5 rows below the
> current choice.

Is that a "scroll bar"?
We don't currently have enough languages to scroll through
on our 1.44 disks...




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Bug#132541: marked as done (Files in the archive with no extension cause problems)

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This recently sent to debian-boot.  We should brobably fix this somehow.


From: "James A. Treacy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Files in the archive with no extension cause problems
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

There are files which boot floppies controls that have no file
extension. This causes problems because apache assumes that they have
mime type text/plain and newbies don't can't figure out how to download
the file. A good example is dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/linux .
Try wget -S http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/linux

Here are some alternatives:
 - add .htaccess files and add lines like:
   
 ForceType application/octet-stream
   
   The problem with this is that not all mirrors are running apache.
   Additionally, if a site has set 'AllowOverride None', apache will give
   an error message when users try to download the file.
 - Have sites add 'DefaultType application/octet-stream' to either the
   apache config file or to a .htaccess file. Using a .htaccess file has
   the same problem as the first example. Besides the problem of getting
   hundreds of mirrors to modify their apache config, there is the
   additional problem that there are probably files in the archive that
   are plain text that would then be consider as binaries.
 - rename all binaries with no file extension

What I suggest is that starting with the next release any files that
aren't plain text be given an extension that will convince apache that
they are binaries. The biggest hassle here will be changing all the
links to the files.

If you don't do anything about this, the webmasters will be forced to
send all mail from lusers complaining about this problem to this list. :)

Not subscribed to this list so blah blah blah mail to me blah blah blah.

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This was fixed in 3.0.21 (for linux.bin anyways). We'll accept 
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Re: Still unable to 'Initialize a Linux Partition' with bf 3.0.21

[Chris Tillman]

On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 12:32:59AM +0100, Andreas W?st wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I've already reported this problem with bf-3.0.19 to both of these lists. On
> linux-apus-devel I was told this would be a kernel issue, but on debian-boot, Chris 
>told
> me it would be a dbootsrap issue and should be fixed.
> 
> Today I've downloaded the root.bin from 
>http://people.debian.org/~aph/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-powerpc/3.0.21-2002-03-13/apus/images-1.44/
> Adam built and replaced the 3.0.19 root.bin in the apus/images-1.44/ folder with the 
>new one. Still
> using the 2.4.17 apus kernel.
> 
> But, unlucky me, nothings seems to have changed, the bug still appears,
> and so I still can't Initialize a Linux partition.
> 
> I've quoted myself in the following lines just to give a short overview over the
> problem itself:
> 
> > [First thing is,] that it is not possible to execute the point "Initialize a
> > Linux Partition". After selecting this point in the menu, the screen goes
> > white, and the installer system restarts!
> >
> > On console 3 I could read:
> >
> >Mar 3 ... (none) user.info init: Process '/sbin/udbootstrap' (pid 140) exited. 
>Scheduling it for restart
> >
> >Mar 3 ... (none) user.info init: Starting pid 146, console /dev/console: 
>'/sbin/udbootstrap'
> 
> Here I have to say that it now also didn't want to work with a virgin disk
> without an already valid root partition (but of course already partitioned
> from the AmigaOS side).
> 
> I wonder about this, because the 'Initialize..' part worked perfectly well with an
> 2.4.9 apus kernel (but this isn't much use to me, as 2.4.9 doesn't support dhcp, and 
>so I can't install
> the rest of the system after the reboot *snif*).
> 
> I hope you can see my dilemma: kernel 2.4.9 is the only one which supports my
> NIC and I can 'Initialize...', but it doesn't support DHCP. 2.4.17 does support my 
>NIC and DHCP, but I
> can't 'Initialize...'..
> 
> ps: Why are the driver-1.bin and rescue.bin files in .../apus/images-1.44/ still 
>built, although
> they doesn't seem to be needed?
> 
> pps: Does the new color of the selection bar really have to be red? It gives a
> very bad contrast with the underlying text. Lucky me I've already tried to
> install debian that much that I can recall the selection lines from my mind.
> 
> And oh, concerning the ongoing 'malformed release file' discussion: I very often
> got this message in the last few weeks (when I've been trying to install with
> other kernels than 2.4.17, but, as I said, no success with them, because of
> the lacking dhcp support..)!!
> 
> -- 
> Thanks for any idea, kind regards,
> Andi

How about trying mke2fs /dev/whatever from the virtual console 2? 
Does that give an error message?

If that works, and you can mount it as root, at least you could go on
with the install.
 
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time:   Sat Mar 16 16:41:39 PST 2002
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  Updated ja.po

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  +- fix proxy line for server select box, better formatting when strings
  +  are different lengths
  

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  +- fix proxy line for server select box, better formatting when strings
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Still unable to 'Initialize a Linux Partition' with bf 3.0.21

[Andreas Wüst]

Hi

I've already reported this problem with bf-3.0.19 to both of these lists. On
linux-apus-devel I was told this would be a kernel issue, but on debian-boot, Chris 
told
me it would be a dbootsrap issue and should be fixed.

Today I've downloaded the root.bin from 
http://people.debian.org/~aph/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-powerpc/3.0.21-2002-03-13/apus/images-1.44/
Adam built and replaced the 3.0.19 root.bin in the apus/images-1.44/ folder with the 
new one. Still
using the 2.4.17 apus kernel.

But, unlucky me, nothings seems to have changed, the bug still appears,
and so I still can't Initialize a Linux partition.

I've quoted myself in the following lines just to give a short overview over the
problem itself:

> [First thing is,] that it is not possible to execute the point "Initialize a
> Linux Partition". After selecting this point in the menu, the screen goes
> white, and the installer system restarts!
>
> On console 3 I could read:
>
>Mar 3 ... (none) user.info init: Process '/sbin/udbootstrap' (pid 140) exited. 
>Scheduling it for restart
>
>Mar 3 ... (none) user.info init: Starting pid 146, console /dev/console: 
>'/sbin/udbootstrap'

Here I have to say that it now also didn't want to work with a virgin disk
without an already valid root partition (but of course already partitioned
from the AmigaOS side).

I wonder about this, because the 'Initialize..' part worked perfectly well with an
2.4.9 apus kernel (but this isn't much use to me, as 2.4.9 doesn't support dhcp, and 
so I can't install
the rest of the system after the reboot *snif*).

I hope you can see my dilemma: kernel 2.4.9 is the only one which supports my
NIC and I can 'Initialize...', but it doesn't support DHCP. 2.4.17 does support my NIC 
and DHCP, but I
can't 'Initialize...'..

ps: Why are the driver-1.bin and rescue.bin files in .../apus/images-1.44/ still 
built, although
they doesn't seem to be needed?

pps: Does the new color of the selection bar really have to be red? It gives a
very bad contrast with the underlying text. Lucky me I've already tried to
install debian that much that I can recall the selection lines from my mind.

And oh, concerning the ongoing 'malformed release file' discussion: I very often
got this message in the last few weeks (when I've been trying to install with
other kernels than 2.4.17, but, as I said, no success with them, because of
the lacking dhcp support..)!!

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cvs commit to boot-floppies/debian by dwhedon

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Repository: boot-floppies/debian
who:dwhedon
time:   Sat Mar 16 14:53:37 PST 2002
Log Message:
  fix french language chooser text, it was missing the 'fr - ' and was too long
  once that was added, a real French speaker should look at it, I'll find one.
  
  

Files:
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Log Message:
  fix french language chooser text, it was missing the 'fr - ' and was too long
  once that was added, a real French speaker should look at it, I'll find one.
  
  

Files:
changed:french.src


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Re: Malformed Release File

[Matt Kraai]

On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 12:43:36PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 02:21:55PM -0500, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
> > "Chris Tillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > I first tried wget to retrieve the file directly. It couldn't resolve 
> > > the domain name. Then I noticed my other machine, which was downloading 
> > > apt-get from the same server, was getting error messages too.
> > > 
> > > I then went back to the first amchine and started base installation 
> > > from http.us.debian.org without any problems.
> > > 
> > > So in this case, it really was a server problem. Is there some way we 
> > > could check specifically for dns name resolution and ping-ability and 
> > > return that as an error instead of Malformed Release file?
> > 
> > It's possible -- but isn't this a debootstrap issue?  Shouldn't it be
> > filed as a wishlist on that?
> 
> Yes, there are already several bugs. I'll go add it there.

I just filed it, with patch.

Matt



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Re: boot-floppies 3.0.21 for testing

[Joshua Uziel]

* Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020316 14:25]:
> It is a limitation in the firmware of the Ultra 5 line, possibly
> ultra10 as well, not sure.

The U5 and the U10 are practically the same machine with a different
riser card and case.


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Bug#138653: boot-floppies: Language chooser '#' on right hand side looks funny

[David Kimdon]

Package: boot-floppies
Version: N/A; reported 2002-03-16
Severity: minor

On the right hand side of the language chooser screen there are ':'s and
and a '#' in a column.  It is as if the '#' is supposed to line up with
the current choice, but it doesn't.  The '#' does move down as I move
the selection down, but at the top it is one row below the current
choice, and by the time we get to the bottom it is 5 rows below the
current choice.

-David 


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Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux oink 2.4.18 #1 Thu Mar 14 20:07:41 PST 2002 i686
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C



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Package: boot-floppies
Version: N/A; reported 2002-02-24
Severity: important

Using a recent (3-5 days old) cvs build, I can perform a network install for 
new-powermac without too much of a problem. 

However, it is impossible to install from either a pre-mounted or instmnt 
partition. An error comes up as soon as the installation folder has been 
selected, stating: Cannot read /floppy/image.txt: Invalid argument.

When the OK button is pressed on this dialog, another with the same message 
replaces it, at least 20 times. The only way out is to pull the plug, I think.

I checked the /floppy mount in vc 2, it looked ordinary. mount shows 
/dev/loop0 is mounted on /floppy, type ext2 (ro).

ls -l /floppy gives
(abbreviated, and the permissions look appropriate):

4467 config.gz
1123 debian.txt
1527 install.sh
1261262  linux.gz
12288lost+found
881  readme.txt
126757   sys_map.gz
7type.txt

When I tried cat /floppy/debian.txt or cat /floppy/type.txt, I got 
cat: read: input/output error
so it could list the files but couldn't read them. I was getting these 
type errors in vc3 also.

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This bug seems to have been solved. I can install the kernel/modules
from the hard disk.

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Re: boot-floppies 3.0.21 for testing

[Thomas J. Zeeman]

On Sat, 16 Mar 2002, Joshua Uziel wrote:

> * Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020316 10:25]:
> > "Thomas J. Zeeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > I tried to do a floppy-install but for reasons I couldn't figure out, due
> > > to a lack of working and accepted floppies, it failed on me.
> > > The tftpboot.img worked. No other options tried.
> >
> > That's bad.  Does it work in the 3.0.20 version in the archive?

The 3.0.20-version is flawwed fatally: it lacks RAMfs-support in the
kernel. The only version of bf I've managed to get working with floppies
was the 3.0.18-version from BenC from last november. Haven't tried any
version before 3.0.16 though, only have the Ultra1 since early Februari.

> > In any case, you should follow this up with a bug in the boot-floppies
> > packages with any details, onscreen messages, etc.
>
> Thomas - you're trying a floppy install on an Ultra?  A lot of Ultras
> have a firmware bug that breaks floppy booting.  Just be sure that you
> can get floppy booting to work with any disks before you start yourself
> on a wild goose chase.

I've managed to install this U1 from floppies before. IIRC U1 and possibly
U2 are the only type of Ultras not affected by the bug you mention.
I've been told that from U5 and up booting from floppy isn't gonna work.
If that's because of the bug or not, haven't got a clue.

Then again, the 3.0.21 isn't working either. The RAMfs is built into the
kernel this time, but after changing the disk it freezes so hard it needs
a power-cycle (Stop-A didn't work :( ). No drive activity after I've
pressed enter to confirm the change of disk. Just a screen with the nice
logo of Tux with a sun on its belly and the kernel boot output.
(Just curious, but why does a sun-kernel-image have RTC enabled? Have they
introduced these in very recent machines?)

The last two messages are:
floppy0 WARNING disk change called too early
and then a the message to put in the root-disk and press ENTER.

Doing that results in the mentioned freeze.

Considering the U1s are esentially the only ultras even capable of booting
from floppy and even that is troublesome - I've had to go through at least
a dozen working (!) floppies to find one that would get accepted by the
drive + OpenBootPROM - I don't know if it is even worth it to try to get
this to work. Most other people seem quite content with having a
choice of either a bootable cd or a tftp-boot.
I'm willing to help out on this, but unforseen RL-happenings put my
efforts on this matter on hold until at least next weekend. :(

regards,
Thomas
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Re: boot-floppies 3.0.21 for testing

[Joshua Uziel]

* Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020316 10:25]:
> "Thomas J. Zeeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I tried to do a floppy-install but for reasons I couldn't figure out, due
> > to a lack of working and accepted floppies, it failed on me.
> > The tftpboot.img worked. No other options tried.
> 
> That's bad.  Does it work in the 3.0.20 version in the archive?
> 
> In any case, you should follow this up with a bug in the boot-floppies
> packages with any details, onscreen messages, etc.

Thomas - you're trying a floppy install on an Ultra?  A lot of Ultras
have a firmware bug that breaks floppy booting.  Just be sure that you
can get floppy booting to work with any disks before you start yourself
on a wild goose chase.


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Re: Malformed Release File

[Chris Tillman]

On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 02:21:55PM -0500, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
> "Chris Tillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I first tried wget to retrieve the file directly. It couldn't resolve 
> > the domain name. Then I noticed my other machine, which was downloading 
> > apt-get from the same server, was getting error messages too.
> > 
> > I then went back to the first amchine and started base installation 
> > from http.us.debian.org without any problems.
> > 
> > So in this case, it really was a server problem. Is there some way we 
> > could check specifically for dns name resolution and ping-ability and 
> > return that as an error instead of Malformed Release file?
> 
> It's possible -- but isn't this a debootstrap issue?  Shouldn't it be
> filed as a wishlist on that?

Yes, there are already several bugs. I'll go add it there.

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cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation by aph

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Repository: boot-floppies/documentation
who:aph
time:   Sat Mar 16 11:39:48 PST 2002
Log Message:
  working on misc-files -- I'm not done there yet, but I need to take a
  break now
  

Files:
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cvs commit to boot-floppies/debian by aph

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Repository: boot-floppies/debian
who:aph
time:   Sat Mar 16 11:39:21 PST 2002
Log Message:
  bugs closed in my defaults.ent hacking
  

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Re: why is mipsel drivers files so wierd?

[Chris Tillman]

On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 12:47:00PM -0500, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
> 
> Why are the mipsel driver*.bin files so wierd:
> 
>   disks-mipsel/3.0.20-2002-03-14/r3k-kn02/images-1.44/driverr3k-kn02-1.bin
>   disks-mipsel/3.0.20-2002-03-14/r4k-kn04/images-1.44/driverr4k-kn04-1.bin
> 
> Does this even work?
> 
> -- 
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The release.sh code was broken; I fixed it by copying in the code from mips.

It's interesting to see how many different ways people can come up with to do 
essentially the same thing:

i386:
  for i in $fromdir/driver$_flavor-?.bin; do
if [ -f $i ]; then
  base=$(basename $i | sed -e s,$_flavor,,)
  mv $i $destdir/$base
fi
  done

sparc:
(cd $release/images-1.44 &&
  for f in driver${subarch}*.bin; do
mkdir -p ../${subarch}/images-1.44/ # just to be sure
[ ! -f $f ] || mv $f ../${subarch}/images-1.44/driver${f#driver${subarch}};
  done)

m68k:
cd $release/images-$size
for f in driver$subarch*.bin; do
  [ ! -f $f ] || mv $f ../$subarch/images-$size/driver${f#driver$subarch};
done
cd ../$subarch/images-$size
if [ -f driver-1.bin -a ! -f driver-2.bin ]; then
  mv driver-1.bin driver.bin;
fi
cd $TOP

powerpc:
  for dfile in $release/images-1.44/driverchrp-?.bin; do 
  bdfile=`basename $dfile`
  dnum=`echo $bdfile | cut -d - -f 2 | cut -c 1`
  mv $release/images-1.44/$bdfile $release/chrp/images-1.44/driver-$dnum.bin
  done
...
  for dfile in $release/images-1.44/driverpmac-?.bin; do 
bdfile=`basename $dfile`
dnum=`echo $bdfile | cut -d - -f 2 | cut -c 1`
mv $release/images-1.44/$bdfile $release/powermac/images-1.44/driver-$dnum.bin
  done
...
  for dfile in $release/images-1.44/drivernewpmac-?.bin; do 
  bdfile=`basename $dfile`
  dnum=`echo $bdfile | cut -d - -f 2 | cut -c 1`
  mv $release/images-1.44/$bdfile 
$release/new-powermac/images-1.44/driver-$dnum.bin
  done
...
  for dfile in $release/images-1.44/driverprep-?.bin; do 
  bdfile=`basename $dfile`; \
  dnum=`echo $bdfile | cut -d - -f 2 | cut -c 1`
  mv $release/images-1.44/$bdfile $release/prep/images-1.44/driver-$dnum.bin
  done 
...
  for dfile in $release/images-1.44/driverapus-?.bin; do 
  bdfile=`basename $dfile`; \
  dnum=`echo $bdfile | cut -d - -f 2 | cut -c 1`
  mv $release/images-1.44/$bdfile $release/apus/images-1.44/driver-$dnum.bin
  done 

alpha:
  for drvdisc in $release/images-1.44/driver${subarch}-?.bin
  do
drv_number=`echo $drvdisc|sed "s/.*driver${subarch}-\([1-9]\).bin/\1/"`
mv $drvdisc $targetdir/images-1.44/driver-${drv_number}.bin
  done

arm:
( cd $release/images-1.44
for f in driver${subarch}*.bin; do
  mv $f $release/${subarch}/images-1.44/driver${f#driver${subarch}};
done
)

ia64:
  rm -f $release/images-1.44/driver*.bin

mips:
(cd $release/images-1.44 &&
  for f in driver${subarch}*.bin; do
mkdir -p ../${subarch}/images-1.44/ # just to be sure
[ ! -f $f ] || mv $f ../${subarch}/images-1.44/driver${f#driver${subarch}};
  done)

mipsel:
mv $release/images-1.44/driver${subarch}-*.bin $release/${subarch}/images-1.44/
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cvs commit to boot-floppies/debian by toff

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Repository: boot-floppies/debian
who:toff
time:   Sat Mar 16 11:33:30 PST 2002
Log Message:
  fix mipsel handling of driver floppies

Files:
changed:changelog


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Repository: boot-floppies
who:toff
time:   Sat Mar 16 11:32:19 PST 2002
Log Message:
  fix mipsel handling of driver floppies

Files:
changed:release.sh


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cvs commit to base-config/debian by joeyh

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Repository: base-config/debian
who:joeyh
time:   Sat Mar 16 10:46:30 PST 2002
Log Message:
 * Updated pt_BR, sv, ca translations of tzsetup.templates.
   Closes: #135580
 * Added some lintian overrides.

Files:
changed:Tag: woody-tree changelog rules

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Repository: base-config
who:joeyh
time:   Sat Mar 16 10:46:29 PST 2002
Log Message:
 * Updated pt_BR, sv, ca translations of tzsetup.templates.
   Closes: #135580
 * Added some lintian overrides.

Files:
changed:Tag: woody-tree tzsetup.templates.sv


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation/en by aph

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Repository: boot-floppies/documentation/en
who:aph
time:   Sat Mar 16 10:36:18 PST 2002
Log Message:
  m68k docs got merged
  

Files:
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cvs commit to debian-installer/retriever/choose-mirror by joeyh

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Repository: debian-installer/retriever/choose-mirror
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time:   Sat Mar 16 09:42:38 PST 2002
Log Message:
  fixed broken clean rule
  
  

Files:
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Repository: debian-installer/retriever/choose-mirror/debian
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time:   Sat Mar 16 09:42:38 PST 2002
Log Message:
  fixed broken clean rule
  
  

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Re: Broken links in the woody install docs

[Chris Tillman]

On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 02:38:55PM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote:
> I have run a url checker over the files in
> http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/ and the results are in
> http://people.debian.org/~treacy/woody.documentation
> 
> Due to some good work from robster, the file is down to 129 lines.
> Things aren't as bad as it sounds, though, as that only represents 83
> broken links and almost all of them will be fixed by correcting 10-20
> lines in debian-boot/boot-floppies/documentation/urls.ent
> and
> debian-boot/boot-floppies/documentation/defaults.ent
> 
> It is not clear to me what these links should be changed to. Someone
> familiar with the install for each arch involved will need to take a
> look.
> 
> Help make this the best install ever!

This should be fairly clean now, except for the new upgrade-arch directories. 
I don't know what the plans are there.

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cvs commit to boot-floppies/debian by toff

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Repository: boot-floppies/debian
who:toff
time:   Sat Mar 16 09:42:35 PST 2002
Log Message:
  fix defaults.ent stuff

Files:
changed:changelog


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cvs commit to base-config by joeyh

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Repository: base-config
who:joeyh
time:   Sat Mar 16 09:40:47 PST 2002
Log Message:
  language updates
  
  

Files:
changed:Tag: woody-tree tzsetup.templates.pt_BR tzsetup.templates.sv


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Repository: base-config/debian
who:joeyh
time:   Sat Mar 16 09:40:48 PST 2002
Log Message:
  language updates
  
  

Files:
changed:Tag: woody-tree changelog


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/debian by aph

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Repository: boot-floppies/debian
who:aph
time:   Sat Mar 16 10:23:15 PST 2002
Log Message:
  recent doc changes
  

Files:
changed:changelog


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation by aph

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Repository: boot-floppies/documentation
who:aph
time:   Sat Mar 16 10:23:06 PST 2002
Log Message:
  i386 supports tftp now -- does it support RARP or not?  I'm not sure
  
  sync tftp images and some other files, almost done with full review
  

Files:
changed:defaults.ent


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation by aph

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Repository: boot-floppies/documentation
who:aph
time:   Sat Mar 16 09:57:54 PST 2002
Log Message:
  review and correction of driver issues; many problems here
  
  Chris, please stop hacking in here until I'm done, we're stepping all
  over each other
  

Files:
changed:defaults.ent


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation by toff

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Repository: boot-floppies/documentation
who:toff
time:   Sat Mar 16 09:55:14 PST 2002
Log Message:
  fix BootX url

Files:
changed:urls.ent


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Bug#138594: boot-floppies: [sparc] sun4dm-pci flavor not appearing in archives

[Chris Tillman]

Package: boot-floppies
Version: N/A; reported 2002-03-16
Severity: normal

The flavor is referenced in the docs but is not showing up in the archives.

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Kernel: Linux iMacBlue 2.4.16-newpmac #1 Mon Jan 7 20:51:25 EST 2002 ppc
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C




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cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation by toff

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Repository: boot-floppies/documentation
who:toff
time:   Sat Mar 16 09:36:36 PST 2002
Log Message:
  sun4cdm has no driver-2.bin

Files:
changed:defaults.ent


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Bug#138591: boot-floppies: [s390] root.bin and linux.bin missing from archive for s390

[Chris Tillman]

Package: boot-floppies
Version: N/A; reported 2002-03-16
Severity: important

These files are referenced in the documentation but do not appear in the archive.

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Architecture: powerpc
Kernel: Linux iMacBlue 2.4.16-newpmac #1 Mon Jan 7 20:51:25 EST 2002 ppc
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C




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cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation by aph

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Repository: boot-floppies/documentation
who:aph
time:   Sat Mar 16 09:29:49 PST 2002
Log Message:
  systematic review of root and rescue images; still slogging through
  but I found a number of problems; also made sure the images listed
  were in alpha order
  

Files:
changed:defaults.ent


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation by toff

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Repository: boot-floppies/documentation
who:toff
time:   Sat Mar 16 09:19:49 PST 2002
Log Message:
  Correct mipsel wishful thinking re: 

Files:
changed:defaults.ent


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Bug#138588: boot-floppies: [m68k] install.doc not available on website

[Chris Tillman]

Package: boot-floppies
Version: N/A; reported 2002-03-16
Severity: normal

The install manual references amiga/install.doc, atari/install.doc,
and mac/install.doc and */install.doc.info in defaults.ent. These are
absent from the current archive.

It looks like their generation is commented out in release.sh, and/or 
incorrect in package-m68k.sh.

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Architecture: powerpc
Kernel: Linux iMacBlue 2.4.16-newpmac #1 Mon Jan 7 20:51:25 EST 2002 ppc
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C




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Bug#138468: locale warnings while extracting base

[Junichi Uekawa]

Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit:

> I think it would be better to find out why the C@utf-8 locale didn't
> work, and where it came from.  I thought it should work just fine, as
> the C locale is present.  Is this wrong?

No, C@utf-8 != C locale.


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation/en by toff

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Repository: boot-floppies/documentation/en
who:toff
time:   Sat Mar 16 08:13:53 PST 2002
Log Message:
  these urls broken on website, use defaults.ent versions

Files:
changed:partitioning.sgml


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation by toff

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Repository: boot-floppies/documentation
who:toff
time:   Sat Mar 16 09:03:59 PST 2002
Log Message:
  Update Penguin revision

Files:
changed:defaults.ent


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation by toff

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Repository: boot-floppies/documentation
who:toff
time:   Sat Mar 16 08:07:51 PST 2002
Log Message:
  these urls broken on website, use defaults.ent versions

Files:
changed:urls.ent


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/debian by toff

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Repository: boot-floppies/debian
who:toff
time:   Sat Mar 16 08:49:48 PST 2002
Log Message:
  fix linux.bin urls ia64/hppa, log changes

Files:
changed:changelog


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation by toff

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Repository: boot-floppies/documentation
who:toff
time:   Sat Mar 16 08:49:48 PST 2002
Log Message:
  fix linux.bin urls ia64/hppa, log changes

Files:
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cvs commit to boot-floppies/debian by toff

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Repository: boot-floppies/debian
who:toff
time:   Sat Mar 16 07:50:00 PST 2002
Log Message:
  Message patch from Mikhail Sobolev

Files:
changed:changelog


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap by toff

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Repository: boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap
who:toff
time:   Sat Mar 16 07:48:43 PST 2002
Log Message:
  Message patch from Mikhail Sobolev

Files:
changed:util.c


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap/po by cklin

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Repository: boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap/po
who:cklin
time:   Sat Mar 16 07:11:59 PST 2002
Log Message:
  Come back of the up-to-date traditional Chinese translation.
  

Files:
added:  zh_TW.po


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap/po by cklin

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Repository: boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap/po
who:cklin
time:   Sat Mar 16 07:04:39 PST 2002
Log Message:
  Removing the special zh_TW treatment that happens to break the specific locale.
  Also added zh_TW back to the list of languages.
  

Files:
changed:Makefile


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Bug#138369: boot-floppies: incorrect keystroke (alt-F4) for debug info given.

[Eduard Bloch]

#include 
Matt Kraai wrote on Fri Mar 15, 2002 um 02:20:14PM:
> > only.  Confusion arises when the screen says that debug info is on alt-F4 and 
> > there is nothing there, while there is output on apt-F3.
> 
> I agree it's confusing.  I don't think we should direct users to
> other virtual consoles.  If debootstrap has a problem, it should
> send dbootstrap a meaningful message to display.

We do not advice users to use thirth console to debug, so we should not
put this hint too. I suggest this, any other ideas?


Index: extract_base.c
===
RCS file: /cvs/debian-boot/boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap/extract_base.c,v
retrieving revision 1.75
diff -u -r1.75 extract_base.c
--- extract_base.c  2002/03/14 18:53:39 1.75
+++ extract_base.c  2002/03/16 12:01:26
@@ -146,7 +146,7 @@
) {
boxProgress(PROGRESS_INIT, _("Installing Base System"));
 } else {
-   boxProgress(PROGRESS_INIT, _("Installing Base System - alt-F4 to debug, alt-F1 
to return"));
+   boxProgress(PROGRESS_INIT, _("Installing Base System, please wait..."));
 }
 boxProgress(PROGRESS_SETTEXT, _("Calling debootstrap"));
 
Gruss/Regards,
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cvs commit to boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap by blade

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Repository: boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap
who:blade
time:   Sat Mar 16 04:07:09 PST 2002
Log Message:
  Disabled my the extra check for bootable CD-ROMs. If people don't want to read, we 
cannot help them.
  

Files:
changed:reboot_system.c


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Bug#138468: locale warnings while extracting base

[Philip Blundell]

On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 09:37, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> (And I'm unable to find anything setting LC_CTYPE before debootstrap
> is called.)

Udbootstrap sets it.

p.



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Bug#138468: locale warnings while extracting base

[Petter Reinholdtsen]

[Eduard Bloch]
> I suggest to unset LC_CTYPE and LANG while debootstrap execution. Other
> arguments?

I think it would be better to find out why the C@utf-8 locale didn't
work, and where it came from.  I thought it should work just fine, as
the C locale is present.  Is this wrong?

(And I'm unable to find anything setting LC_CTYPE before debootstrap
is called.)


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