Bug#182436: some small problems with debian-installer

[Fabio Massimo Di Nitto]

On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:

> > Did you download busybox-cvs-udeb?  It is missing ifconfig, lsmod,
> > and route.  modprobe should be provided by either modutils-basic
> > or modutils-full.
>
> Im farly sure i did not use the cvs version but i remember that lsmod was
> another one. I can't reproduce it now, you will have to wait tomorrow when
> i will be back at work and then i can give all the information you need if
> these are not enough.
>
> Fabio
>

Hi,
   I did recheck this morning again. I confirm that the default downloaded
and installed buxybox and in fact i cannot reproduce the problem. My
qyestion is then why it did install busybox-cvs yesterday? Im sure 1000% i
did only press q at the selection and nothing more (I was kinda in a
hurry to get my laptop back up and running). Installing busybox-cvs
in fact gives the problem and i confirm the 3 commands that do not work
are ifconfig, lsmod, route.

Any idea? I will keep the floppy and the cvs source untouched so that i
can reproduce in case. Let me know if you need more info.

Fabio

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Re: successful bochs install

[Tim Spriggs]

> ... But the sad truth is the only thing people look at when "reviewing"
> a distro is the installer.  And the CD installer is going to get bad
> reviews because it asks too many questions...

Ya know. I'm kinda fond of the current installer. When I demonstrated the
install to a newer Linux user, I explained that you just have to press
enter a lot. (Which he found amusing by the way)

The only complaint I have after compairing it to other installs is the
lack of autodetection. Sitting and having to figure out what network card
is in someone's random box is probably the biggest bottleneck as I do a
lot of net installations since I keep the campus debian mirror on a
machine in my office.

> asks too many questions.  How much work would it be to create a Novice mode, in
> which one answers questions about language and partitioning and nothing else
> prior to reboot?  I had trouble choosing which language to do the install in,
> now you want me to pick a filesystem?  Novices shouldn't be asked this
> question; ext3 is a sane answer, give it to them automatically.  And having
> picked a CD install, why is the novice later being asked whether to install
> from CD or floppy?  Then later still why is the novice being asked whether to
> install from CD or network?  GRUB and LILO both work, pick one for the novice
> doesn't care.  The main menu has 17 options on it.  Fully half are unneccesary
> for the novice user doing a CD install!

Other than the autodetection, (which is not a simple endeavor I very well
understand) I like it. As far as having a novice mode, maybe fai could
be modified a little to simply put a CD in and put linux on a machine? I
think that would be the least questions a person could ask for. :)

> The current disk paritioner has a crummy interface.  Would it be difficult to
> grab one of the more friendly partitioners (e.g. DiskDrake) from another distro
> and use it instead?

Yeah, good ol fdisk.

> Sorry to be so negative.  I know this is a difficult piece of software to just
> get working on 11 architectures, let alone making it simple.

Amen Brother, I think it's to be largely applauded. That and the fact that
it fits easily onto a set of disks.

My two cents,

-Tim

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successful bochs install

[Andre L.]

I successfully installed the official 22 Feb 2003 sarge-i386-1.iso, built using
jigdo, in Bochs 2.0.2.  As with the netinst image, it said the 2.2.20 kernel
was going to be used.  There were also the same issues of things scrolling off
the top of the screen.

Reasons you might want to install under Bochs:

1) You can take screenshots.
2) No risk of damaging your existing disks.
3) You are nostalgic for the old days when installing took all night, and want
a way to slow down your hardware to 1 bogomip.

To paraphrase JWZ "Debian Installer is complicated because your needs are
complicated."  Almost all of the questions asked are there for a good reason. 
And the default answer is usually right.  Things on i386 are already in working
shape, for which you are to be congratulated!

But the sad truth is the only thing people look at when "reviewing" a distro is
the installer.  And the CD installer is going to get bad reviews because it
asks too many questions.  How much work would it be to create a Novice mode, in
which one answers questions about language and partitioning and nothing else
prior to reboot?  I had trouble choosing which language to do the install in,
now you want me to pick a filesystem?  Novices shouldn't be asked this
question; ext3 is a sane answer, give it to them automatically.  And having
picked a CD install, why is the novice later being asked whether to install
from CD or floppy?  Then later still why is the novice being asked whether to
install from CD or network?  GRUB and LILO both work, pick one for the novice
doesn't care.  The main menu has 17 options on it.  Fully half are unneccesary
for the novice user doing a CD install!

The current disk paritioner has a crummy interface.  Would it be difficult to
grab one of the more friendly partitioners (e.g. DiskDrake) from another distro
and use it instead?

Sorry to be so negative.  I know this is a difficult piece of software to just
get working on 11 architectures, let alone making it simple.

--Andre

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Re: netinst failed to install with bochs

[Andre L.]

--- Martin Sjögren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't know if the slang frontend has been added to the package lists
> yet. I would of course like my newt frontend to be the default instead.

The current interface went out of style when teletypewriters were replaced with
video terminals.  Any of slang, newt, or gtk is better.

> The kernel thing sounds weird... Are you sure you're not confusing it
> with SYSLINUX 2.00? Rest assured though, it IS a 2.4.19 kernel. :)

The first screen displays the message "For a 'safe' installation with kernel
2.2.20, you can press  to begin."  Maybe left over from Woody's
installer?

--Andre

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Bug#182464: anna: Extra package selection should not be at default priority level

[Petter Reinholdtsen]

> The default settings do and should work on most hardware, and if you
> have special hardware like a scsi card, then you can select a
> different priority level.

SCSI cards are not special hardware.  They are common hardware, and
the installer should handle these out of the box.


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Bug#169609: interest in further informations?

[Martin Sjögren]

tis 2003-02-25 klockan 23.44 skrev Matthias Gottschlich:
> Hi,
> 
> i have the same problem on installing sid. Do you interest in further 
> details of the error and what happend?
> 
> It seems that the cdrom is mounted at /cdrom
> If i try to run point 2 of the menu, debian tells that he can't "gunzip 
> /var/cache/anna/Packages.gz" but under these directory there is no 
> Packages.gz. There is only an Packages as a link to an non-existing file 
> (because the folder does't exist).

What versions are you using? Where did you download the image?

What folder doesn't exist?


/Martin


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Bug#169609: interest in further informations?

[Matt Kraai]

On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 11:44:22PM +0100, Matthias Gottschlich wrote:
> i have the same problem on installing sid. Do you interest in further 
> details of the error and what happend?

Yes, please.

> It seems that the cdrom is mounted at /cdrom
> If i try to run point 2 of the menu, debian tells that he can't "gunzip 
> /var/cache/anna/Packages.gz" but under these directory there is no 
> Packages.gz. There is only an Packages as a link to an non-existing file 
> (because the folder does't exist).

Could you send the exact sequence of steps that you followed, the
exact text of the error message, and where the Packages symlinks
were pointing to?

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Bug#169609: interest in further informations?

[Matthias Gottschlich]

Hi,

i have the same problem on installing sid. Do you interest in further 
details of the error and what happend?

It seems that the cdrom is mounted at /cdrom
If i try to run point 2 of the menu, debian tells that he can't "gunzip 
/var/cache/anna/Packages.gz" but under these directory there is no 
Packages.gz. There is only an Packages as a link to an non-existing file 
(because the folder does't exist).

regards
Matthias


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debian-installer-utils_0.17_i386.changes is NEW

[Debian Installer]

debian-installer-utils_0.17.dsc
  to pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/debian-installer-utils_0.17.dsc
debian-installer-utils_0.17.tar.gz
  to pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/debian-installer-utils_0.17.tar.gz
di-utils-fake-mkfs_0.17_all.udeb
  to pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/di-utils-fake-mkfs_0.17_all.udeb
(new) di-utils-fake-mkswap_0.17_all.udeb standard debian-installer
Already made swapspace
 Use this module if you have already made swapspace on your
 partitions.
di-utils-fake-mount-partitions_0.17_all.udeb
  to pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/di-utils-fake-mount-partitions_0.17_all.udeb
di-utils-fake-partitioner_0.17_all.udeb
  to pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/di-utils-fake-partitioner_0.17_all.udeb
(new) di-utils-generic_0.17_all.udeb standard debian-installer
Generic scripts for di-utils
 This package contains generic scripts used be the di-utilities.
di-utils-mapdevfs_0.17_i386.udeb
  to pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/di-utils-mapdevfs_0.17_i386.udeb
di-utils-mkfs_0.17_all.udeb
  to pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/di-utils-mkfs_0.17_all.udeb
(new) di-utils-mkswap_0.17_all.udeb standard debian-installer
Make swapspace
 Use this module to mkswap the target partitions within debian-installer.
di-utils-mount-partitions_0.17_all.udeb
  to pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/di-utils-mount-partitions_0.17_all.udeb
di-utils-partitioner_0.17_all.udeb
  to pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/di-utils-partitioner_0.17_all.udeb
di-utils-shell_0.17_i386.udeb
  to pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/di-utils-shell_0.17_i386.udeb
Changes: debian-installer-utils (0.17) unstable; urgency=low
 .
  * Mario Lang
- mapdevfs.c: Add mapping for serial devices, and fix segfault on
  faulty input.
  * Max Kosmach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: updated ru.po
  * Petter Reinholdtsen
- Added Norwegian Bokmål (nb.po) translations recieved from
  Bjørn Steensrud.
- Added Norwegian Nynorsk (nn.po) translations recieved from
  Gaute Hvoslef Kvalnes.
  * Thorsten Sauter:
- all packages use generic functions from new di-utils-generic pkg
- partitioner/mkfs/mkswap use /proc/partitions to get
  also lvm/raid/... devices
- generic package for common used functions
- package for creating swapspace
- di-utils-mount-partitions generates final fstab file
- warning/error messages if something get wrong
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Re: cvs commit to debian-installer/utils/debian by sjogren

[Denis Barbier]

On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 03:01:19PM -0700, Debian Boot CVS Master wrote:
> Repository: debian-installer/utils/debian
> who:sjogren
> time:   Tue Feb 25 15:01:19 MST 2003
> Log Message:
>   Prepare for upload
> 
> Files:
> changed:changelog

Please always run debconf-updatepo after editing templates files

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Re: Testing netinstall and others

[Klaus Imgrund]

> 
> Are you sure you have enough RAM? (eg. 14meg for i386). Your problem
> sounds like there was some problem extracting the installation root
> filesystem to the memory.

I got plenty RAM that can't be the problem.
However - I did have the same problem once when I tried Knoppix.
Why - no idea.Installed Mandrake today and checked with the gentoo live
Cd.Boots w/o any trouble at all.

Prost,

Klaus


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Re: Testing netinstall and others

[Eduard Bloch]

#include 
* Klaus Imgrund [Wed, Feb 26 2003, 03:05:23PM]:

> With those (tried them all) the splash screen or whatever that screen

It's called framebuffer console.

> with tux is comes up and it loads the kernel until a error msg about a
> reiser superblock that it cant find.
> I do have all reiser partitions on my box but they are not even mounted
> at that point.
> A old potato cd boot just fine.

Are you sure you have enough RAM? (eg. 14meg for i386). Your problem
sounds like there was some problem extracting the installation root
filesystem to the memory.

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Re: netinst failed to install with bochs

[Martin Sjögren]

tis 2003-02-25 klockan 21.00 skrev Andre L.:
> Which package should I file bug reports on for the netinst image?

Preferrably the "guilty" udeb ;) but if you don't know, just file them
on "install".

> The first problem I had was getting the slang interface
> working.  I don't know if this is even possible yet from the
> netinst CD.  It should be the default.  I also noticed
> the first screen talked about booting into kernel 2.2.20,
> but it actually seems to wind up in 2.4.19.

I don't know if the slang frontend has been added to the package lists
yet. I would of course like my newt frontend to be the default instead.
:-)

The kernel thing sounds weird... Are you sure you're not confusing it
with SYSLINUX 2.00? Rest assured though, it IS a 2.4.19 kernel. :)

> After the base system installed from CD, Bochs paniced with
> "cdrom: read_block: read returned -1"; this may be a bug in
> Bochs not the installer.  I told Bochs to continue after the
> panic, and got back to the installer menu.

Uh, sounds weird...

> All of entries 14-16 (install kernel, LILO, Grub
> respectively) failed to work for me -- in each case the
> installer tried to get the package by HTTP instead of from
> the CD image.  I realize it's a netinst CD and only a weirdo
> would try to install from it without the network.  But how
> come the rest of the base packages are on it, but not the
> kernel and bootloader?

Because netinst only has d-i and base on them... We should talk to the
debian-cd team about including the necessary things for kernel-installer
included too, and probably grub as well, so the netinst CD can be used
for everything until the reboot...

Thanks for your comments!


/Martin


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netinst failed to install with bochs

[Andre L.]

I failed to get the 23 Feb sarge-i386-netinst.iso to install
under Bochs 2.0.2.  This is the upstream version of Bochs,
since I couldn't figure out how to boot from CD in Woody's
Bochs 1.4pre2 packages.

Which package should I file bug reports on for the netinst image?

The first problem I had was getting the slang interface
working.  I don't know if this is even possible yet from the
netinst CD.  It should be the default.  I also noticed
the first screen talked about booting into kernel 2.2.20,
but it actually seems to wind up in 2.4.19.

Things mostly worked through entry 13 of the menu ("install
the base system").  A few menu entries scrolled off the
screen hiding the beginning of the menu.  I just pressed
return, using the default options.  The one exception is I
skipped configuring the network since I haven't yet messed
with Boch's network emulation.  (I know, it's a netinst CD.
But most of the base packages are on it, so a minimal
install seemed possible from it.)

After the base system installed from CD, Bochs paniced with
"cdrom: read_block: read returned -1"; this may be a bug in
Bochs not the installer.  I told Bochs to continue after the
panic, and got back to the installer menu.

All of entries 14-16 (install kernel, LILO, Grub
respectively) failed to work for me -- in each case the
installer tried to get the package by HTTP instead of from
the CD image.  I realize it's a netinst CD and only a weirdo
would try to install from it without the network.  But how
come the rest of the base packages are on it, but not the
kernel and bootloader?

--Andre


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Bug#182422: anna: packages without menu-item should be full installed

[Martin Sjögren]

tis 2003-02-25 klockan 13.30 skrev Matt Kraai:
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 12:23:20PM +0100, Thorsten Sauter wrote:
> > normal packages will be full installed after the menu-item was selected.
> > In this case the maintainer scripts are executed.
> > 
> > But packages without a menu-item will never be installed this way. They
> > will not installed until a dependency force this.
> > This will break the usage of these packages from the console (tty2), or
> > packages with can't be included in the Depend field (eg kernel modules)

Well, any package that a menu item *depends* (or recursively depends) on
will be configured, actually, so I guess we should make sure
dependencies are correct? Is there a particular broken case you have in
mind?

> > So, anna should detect, if there is no menu-item assigned and then
> > install the package.
> 
> Won't this break the di-utils-fake-* packages?

Yes it will. We have been talking about redesigning this though, perhaps
using Recommends instead.


/Martin


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Re: Can't install on i386 system with LSI 53C1030 SCSI Host driver

[Ryan Lovett]

On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 03:33:51PM +0100, Olivier Cappe wrote:
> I am trying to install Woody on a i386 system which has two SCSI disks
> that need the Fusion MPT SCSI drivers. RH 8.0 installs correctly on
> this one and reports
[snip] 
> However, I could not install Debian on this system. The first thing is that as
> said here,
[snip] 
> I finally went for the updated module preload floppy 2.4.20-modules.bin from
> http://people.debian.org/~blade/install/preload/ together with bootbf2.4.iso as
> found in http://people.debian.org/~blade/boot-floppies/netinst-full-pre/. This
> time I could load the mptbase.o and mptscsih.o modules from the floppy and
> proceed up to the "reboot" item in the installation (thereby erasing my RH
> install). In addition to these two modules, I also added sg support in the
> "Insert kernel modules" section.
> 
> The problem is that I can't reboot: reboot from disk fails with "No operating
> system" while reboot from the boot floppy created during the installation
> apparently lacks the two mpt* modules so that I see the following message
> 
> kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2
> 
> 3 times and then:
> 
> VFS: Cannot open root device "sda5" or 08:05
> Please append a correct "root=" boot option
> Kernel panic: VFS: Unable tp mount root fs on 08:05

I had to use bootbf2.4.iso and preload-2.4.20.bin (not "2.4.20-modules.bin")
for the same hardware, but I was able to reboot without trouble. The mpt
modules had been copied to disk and were loaded during reboot. I did not add sg
support.

87b0f3beb29259a26faa79fe6bafd392  woody-3.0.24-pre/bootbf2.4.iso
09046d577f96f51721aaf67d17ad2e87  woody-3.0.24-pre/preload-2.4.20.bin

-rw-r--r--1 ryan staff40009728 Jan  7 12:55 bootbf2.4.iso
-rw-r--r--1 ryan staff 1474560 Jan  8 07:52 preload-2.4.20.bin

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Bug#182470: di-utils-partitioner: partition selection needs usability improvements

[Michael Cardenas]

Package: di-utils-partitioner
Version: N/A; reported 2003-02-25
Severity: normal

The partition selection needs to be friendlier. It doesn't need to list the full path
but just the partition number, and it should list the filesystem type that is on the
partition, as well as the size of the partition. 

As it is, it just asks what partition to install on, and says

1. /dev/ide/lun0/blah/blah/part1

which doesn't help if you actually have another partition with data on it that
you don't want to overwrite. 

-- System Information
Debian Release: 3.0
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux bakunin 2.4.20 #1 Sun Feb 16 14:27:31 PST 2003 i686
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C



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Testing netinstall and others

[Klaus Imgrund]

Hello,

I tried to do a netinstall with the testing images (businesscard) and
ran in some trouble.My NIC (sis900) get recognised but when I do the
install as 'net' there seems to be no driver available.
If I do the default install and load everything that is available - well
almost everything a couple of times the sis900 module finally shows up
but it doesn't get loaded - modprobe can't find it.
I can egt it to load however with insmod but after that the
network configuration with dhcp fails.I got a real easy network -
hardware router at 102.168.7.105 - that's it.
After looking around a while I figured it isn't worth the effort to play
around with it any longer since I want to install on a reiser partition
and that doesn't seem to be supported.
BTW nano didn't work either - complained about some UTF8 font thing - I
think.
Next trial was all of the bf-2.4 ISO's that are linked from the debian
website.
With those (tried them all) the splash screen or whatever that screen
with tux is comes up and it loads the kernel until a error msg about a
reiser superblock that it cant find.
I do have all reiser partitions on my box but they are not even mounted
at that point.
A old potato cd boot just fine.
My problem is that I need the bf-2.4 kernel because I've had my root
partition twice corrupted with ext3 and ain't gonna try this again.

Sorry bout the trouble,

Klaus


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Bug#182464: anna: Extra package selection should not be at default priority level

[Michael Cardenas]

Package: anna
Version: N/A; reported 2003-02-25
Severity: normal

When doing an install with d-i and selecting the default priority level, the 
selection of extra packages such as scsi modules shouldn't be asked. 

The default settings do and should work on most hardware, and if you have 
special hardware like a scsi card, then you can select a different priority   
level. 

Having just done an install with d-i on my dell c610 laptop, I noticed that
this question was probably the only one that was extraneous. 

thanks

  cardenas   

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Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux bakunin 2.4.20 #1 Sun Feb 16 14:27:31 PST 2003 i686
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Bug#182436: some small problems with debian-installer

[Matt Kraai]

On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 05:52:25PM +0100, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Matt Kraai wrote:
> 
> > reassign 182346 busybox-udeb
> > retitle 182346 ifconfig and modprobe do not work
> > thanks
> 
> There were more. I will compile a complete list tomorrow. as i specified
> they were examples.

Did you download busybox-cvs-udeb?  It is missing ifconfig, lsmod,
and route.  modprobe should be provided by either modutils-basic
or modutils-full.

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Bug#182436: some small problems with debian-installer

[Fabio Massimo Di Nitto]

> Did you download busybox-cvs-udeb?  It is missing ifconfig, lsmod,
> and route.  modprobe should be provided by either modutils-basic
> or modutils-full.

Im farly sure i did not use the cvs version but i remember that lsmod was
another one. I can't reproduce it now, you will have to wait tomorrow when
i will be back at work and then i can give all the information you need if
these are not enough.

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[Fabio Massimo Di Nitto]

> You mean you see
>
>  # ifconfig
>  BusyBox v0.60.5 (2002.10.31-09:36+) multi-call binary
>
>  Usage: busybox [function] [arguments]...
> or: [function] [arguments]...
>
>  BusyBox is a multi-call binary...
>
>  Currently defined functions:
>  ..., ifconfig, ...
>
> ?

Exactly.

> What debian-installer image are you using?

As reported: CVS built today. no customization for the main report.

>  What version of
> BusyBox are you using (you can find out with

The default one. I did not specify anything special.

>
>  sed -n '/^Package: busybox/,/^$/p' /var/lib/dpkg/status
>
> (well, if sed works))?

Well I did complete my installation. Probably i forgot to mention that
these commands stop to work after i download the d-i modules. the net
config done at the beginning works just fine.
When i will be in the office tomorrow I will recheck again to be sure 100%
Im using the same disk.

Fabio

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Bug#182436: some small problems with debian-installer

[Matt Kraai]

reassign 182346 busybox-udeb
retitle 182346 ifconfig and modprobe do not work
thanks

On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 05:38:56PM +0100, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:
> >  What version of
> > BusyBox are you using (you can find out with
> 
> The default one. I did not specify anything special.
> 
> >
> >  sed -n '/^Package: busybox/,/^$/p' /var/lib/dpkg/status
> >
> > (well, if sed works))?
> 
> Well I did complete my installation. Probably i forgot to mention that
> these commands stop to work after i download the d-i modules. the net
> config done at the beginning works just fine.

After running anna, ifconfig is busted but other BusyBox applets
(e.g., cp) still work?

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Bug#182436: some small problems with debian-installer

[Matt Kraai]

On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 05:20:33PM +0100, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:
> > > - on the console (busybox) a number of commands do not work.
> > >   ex: ifconfig, modprobe. keep printing the enabled functions in
> > >   busybox.
> >
> > I can't reproduce this:
> >
> >  # ifconfig
> >  eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr: 00:E0:29:17:1B:AB
> >  ...
> >  # modprobe
> >  modprobe: Nothing to load ???
> >  Specify at least a module or a wildcard like \*
> >
> > What error messages do you see?
> 
> I get the message from busybox with the functionalities enabled in busybox
> itself. no more no less.

You mean you see

 # ifconfig
 BusyBox v0.60.5 (2002.10.31-09:36+) multi-call binary

 Usage: busybox [function] [arguments]...
or: [function] [arguments]...

 BusyBox is a multi-call binary...

 Currently defined functions:
 ..., ifconfig, ...

?  What debian-installer image are you using?  What version of
BusyBox are you using (you can find out with

 sed -n '/^Package: busybox/,/^$/p' /var/lib/dpkg/status

(well, if sed works))?

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Bug#182436: some small problems with debian-installer

[Fabio Massimo Di Nitto]

On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Matt Kraai wrote:

> reassign 182346 busybox-udeb
> retitle 182346 ifconfig and modprobe do not work
> thanks

There were more. I will compile a complete list tomorrow. as i specified
they were examples.

> After running anna, ifconfig is busted but other BusyBox applets
> (e.g., cp) still work?
>

Yes some do others don't

Fabio

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[Fabio Massimo Di Nitto]

> > - on the console (busybox) a number of commands do not work.
> >   ex: ifconfig, modprobe. keep printing the enabled functions in
> >   busybox.
>
> I can't reproduce this:
>
>  # ifconfig
>  eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr: 00:E0:29:17:1B:AB
>  ...
>  # modprobe
>  modprobe: Nothing to load ???
>  Specify at least a module or a wildcard like \*
>
> What error messages do you see?

I get the message from busybox with the functionalities enabled in busybox
itself. no more no less.

> Thanks for testing.
>

It is always a pleasure
Fabio

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Re: ext3 problems

[Tollef Fog Heen]

* Matt Kraai 

| On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 01:35:24PM -0800, Cardenas wrote:
| > Unfortunately, I selected ext3 the first time for my file
| > system. Apparently the kernel on the floppy doesn't have ext3 support,
| > and as a result the lilo postinst failed, and upon first boot, the
| > root partition could not be mounted. 
| 
| I have installed with ext3 and LILO.  What was the error message?

the ext3 module is now priority standard, but for some reason
mkfs.ext3 wants /etc/mtab to exist, so it has been made into a symlink
to /proc/mounts.  This _should_ work, and should have been for a few
days.  mbc, it's good if you report exactly what version you tried
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Bug#182436: some small problems with debian-installer

[Matt Kraai]

clone 182436 -1
reassign -1 netcfg
retitle -1 does not create /etc/hostname
thanks

On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 01:39:26PM +0100, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:
> I did built d-i from today CVS and noticed this:
> 
> - hostname at reboot is localhost (Im sure this is an old problem)
>   even if specified differently during the installation.
>   /etc/hosts is indeed correct.

I have a fix for this, which I will commit this evening.

> - for kernel 2.4.19 are missing modules/userland utils. An example is
>   evms. It is possible to install the userland but not load any module.
>   That makes the userland useless.

Please see bug #182422.

> - on the console (busybox) a number of commands do not work.
>   ex: ifconfig, modprobe. keep printing the enabled functions in
>   busybox.

I can't reproduce this:

 # ifconfig
 eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr: 00:E0:29:17:1B:AB
 ...
 # modprobe
 modprobe: Nothing to load ???
 Specify at least a module or a wildcard like \*

What error messages do you see?

> - at d-i modules selection time number 18) is missing a description
>   i hope to remember correctly that was 18 but anyway it just claim:
>   18) for debian-installer

Please see bug #180038.

> - lilo config should be regenarated after the first reboot with a more
>   "commented" one.

This is a bug in lilo-installer.

> - mkswap is enabled in busybox but it is still not possible (if not by
>   hand) to create a swap partition automatically.

This is fixed in CVS.

> Thanks to everyone. except from this small things I had a really good
> feeling using it. Congratulations for your great job guys!

Thanks for testing.

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Can't install on i386 system with LSI 53C1030 SCSI Host driver

[Olivier Cappe]

Hi everyone,

I am trying to install Woody on a i386 system which has two SCSI disks that need
the Fusion MPT SCSI drivers. RH 8.0 installs correctly on this one and reports

SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2
Fusion MPT base driver 2.01.10
Copyright (c) 1999-2002 LSI Logic Corporation
PCI: Found IRQ 9 for device 02:07.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 9 with 01:00.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 9 with 02:01.2
mptbase: Initiating ioc0 bringup
ioc0: 53C1030: Capabilities={Initiator}
PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 02:07.1
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:1f.3
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:1f.5
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 02:02.1
mptbase: Initiating ioc1 bringup
ioc1: 53C1030: Capabilities={Initiator}
mptbase: 2 MPT adapters found, 2 installed.
Fusion MPT SCSI Host driver 2.01.10
scsi0 : ioc0: LSI53C1030, FwRev=01011800h, Ports=1, MaxQ=222, IRQ=9
scsi1 : ioc1: LSI53C1030, FwRev=01011800h, Ports=1, MaxQ=222, IRQ=11
  Vendor: FUJITSU   Model: MAP3367NP Rev: 5605
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 03
  Vendor: FUJITSU   Model: MAP3367NP Rev: 5605
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 03
Attached scsi disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Attached scsi disk sdb at scsi1, channel 0, id 1, lun 0
SCSI device sda: 71132959 512-byte hdwr sectors (36420 MB)
Partition check:
 sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4 < sda5 sda6 >
SCSI device sdb: 71132959 512-byte hdwr sectors (36420 MB)
 sdb: unknown partition table

at boot time.


However, I could not install Debian on this system. The first thing is that as
said here,

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=20030108221007%244657%40gated-at.bofh.it&rnum=2&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Ddebian%2Bmptbase%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26selm%3D20030108221007%25244657%2540gated-at.bofh.it%26rnum%3D2

the mptbase.o (and mptscsih.o) from

2.4.18-bf2.4_scsi_and_bcm5700_preload_floppy-1440.bin

as available in http://people.debian.org/~blade/install/preload/

can not be loaded with the bf24 flavor of the kernel as featured on the Debian
3.0 disc 1 (modules fail to load). Maybe a note on this should be added on the
Woody Errata page (http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/errata.en.html)! Also,
the "nousb" option to the bf24 kernel on the Debian
3.0 disc 1 does not work or is non existent (the USB keyboard module was causing
a freeze of my actual - non USB - keyboard and I had to remove the USB support
from the BIOS to work around this problem).

I finally went for the updated module preload floppy 2.4.20-modules.bin from
http://people.debian.org/~blade/install/preload/ together with bootbf2.4.iso as
found in http://people.debian.org/~blade/boot-floppies/netinst-full-pre/. This
time I could load the mptbase.o and mptscsih.o modules from the floppy and
proceed up to the "reboot" item in the installation (thereby erasing my RH
install). In addition to these two modules, I also added sg support in the
"Insert kernel modules" section.

The problem is that I can't reboot: reboot from disk fails with "No operating
system" while reboot from the boot floppy created during the installation
apparently lacks the two mpt* modules so that I see the following message

kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2

3 times and then:

VFS: Cannot open root device "sda5" or 08:05
Please append a correct "root=" boot option
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable tp mount root fs on 08:05


Any ideas on what to do next (other than reinstalling RH) ?
Thanks,

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Bug#182436: some small problems with debian-installer

[Thorsten Sauter]

Hello,

On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 01:39:26PM +0100, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:
> - on the console (busybox) a number of commands do not work.
>   ex: ifconfig, modprobe. keep printing the enabled functions in
>   busybox.
are you installing busybox or busybox-cvs?

> - mkswap is enabled in busybox but it is still not possible (if not by
>   hand) to create a swap partition automatically.
fixed in cvs, there is no udeb upload yet

Bye
Thorsten

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Bug#182436: some small problems with debian-installer

[Fabio Massimo Di Nitto]

On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Thorsten Sauter wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 01:39:26PM +0100, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:
> > - on the console (busybox) a number of commands do not work.
> >   ex: ifconfig, modprobe. keep printing the enabled functions in
> >   busybox.
> are you installing busybox or busybox-cvs?

Well the default. I didn't choose anything different here.

Fabio



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soname versions in library udebs

[Sebastian Ley]

Hello,

I wonder if we need soname versions in library udebs as proposed in
Junichi Uekawas library packaging guide [1]. There will never be some
kind of upgrading of udebs, and the udebs should be in a consistent
state when they are built.

As for now no udebs actually have their soname number as part of the
package name. It is libc-udeb, discover-udeb...

Sebastian

[1] http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/column/libpkg-guide/libpkg-guide.html

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Bug#182436: some small problems with debian-installer

[Fabio Massimo Di Nitto]

Package: installation
Version: CVS 25/02/2003 (not installed)
Severity: normal

Hi all,
probably some of these small problems are known and sorry in
case of duplicated information.

I did built d-i from today CVS and noticed this:

- hostname at reboot is localhost (Im sure this is an old problem)
  even if specified differently during the installation.
  /etc/hosts is indeed correct.

- for kernel 2.4.19 are missing modules/userland utils. An example is
  evms. It is possible to install the userland but not load any module.
  That makes the userland useless.

- on the console (busybox) a number of commands do not work.
  ex: ifconfig, modprobe. keep printing the enabled functions in
  busybox.

- at d-i modules selection time number 18) is missing a description
  i hope to remember correctly that was 18 but anyway it just claim:
  18) for debian-installer

- lilo config should be regenarated after the first reboot with a more
  "commented" one.

- mkswap is enabled in busybox but it is still not possible (if not by
  hand) to create a swap partition automatically.

Then i made some experiments using kernel-2.4.20 to install changing
of course the version in the Makefile and in order to make it fitting on
the disk i dropped the isapnp card support (no need for my laptop).
Well of course the first problem is the size. 1 floppy is not enough.
It arises the same problem of kernel modules/userland utilities
(this time for lvm as well). The installer anyway cannot go further the
"partition harddisk". It looks like it cannot find the partitions even
if they are there. I was not able to force it to proceed even mounting
the partitions by hand.

Thanks to everyone. except from this small things I had a really good
feeling using it. Congratulations for your great job guys!

Fabio

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Bug#182422: anna: packages without menu-item should be full installed

[Matt Kraai]

On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 12:23:20PM +0100, Thorsten Sauter wrote:
> normal packages will be full installed after the menu-item was selected.
> In this case the maintainer scripts are executed.
> 
> But packages without a menu-item will never be installed this way. They
> will not installed until a dependency force this.
> This will break the usage of these packages from the console (tty2), or
> packages with can't be included in the Depend field (eg kernel modules).
> 
> So, anna should detect, if there is no menu-item assigned and then
> install the package.

Won't this break the di-utils-fake-* packages?

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Bug#182422: anna: packages without menu-item should be full installed

[Thorsten Sauter]

Package: anna
Version: 0.024 (not installed)
Severity: normal

Hi,

normal packages will be full installed after the menu-item was selected.
In this case the maintainer scripts are executed.

But packages without a menu-item will never be installed this way. They
will not installed until a dependency force this.
This will break the usage of these packages from the console (tty2), or
packages with can't be included in the Depend field (eg kernel modules).

So, anna should detect, if there is no menu-item assigned and then
install the package.

Bye
Thorsten


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Re: How I want languagechooser to behave

[Martin Sjögren]

tis 2003-02-25 klockan 10.26 skrev Denis Barbier:
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 11:51:01PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [...]
> > > Does this mean that LANGUAGE is fully determined by this locale, or
> > > can it be edited?
> > 
> > I want it to be fully determined by the locale, and do not see the
> > need to edit it manually.  Do you think the first time users need to
> > edit this list of fallback translations?
> 
> Here is a proposal for this specific issue:
>   a.  User selects his preferred language (currently language-first)
>   b.  If it matches some specific languages which have predefined LANGUAGE
>   combinations (i.e. mostly Scandinavian languages), display a
>   select template which looks like
> Choices: no:nb:nn:dk:sv, no:nn:nb:dk:sv, no:nn:nb:sv:dk, Manual selection
>   c.  If the last choice is selected or if initial language has no
>   predefined LANGUAGE combinations, display language-addtolist and loop
>   until selection is over.


This is *way* too complex. What purpose does this serve? I really don't
think it's necessary with fallback languages.

If you *desperately* want something this complex, PLEASE make it
priority low! Did anyone ever complain about boot-floppies just asking
for language and not N fallback languages?


/Martin


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Re: How I want languagechooser to behave

[Denis Barbier]

On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 11:51:01PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
[...]
> > Does this mean that LANGUAGE is fully determined by this locale, or
> > can it be edited?
> 
> I want it to be fully determined by the locale, and do not see the
> need to edit it manually.  Do you think the first time users need to
> edit this list of fallback translations?

Here is a proposal for this specific issue:
  a.  User selects his preferred language (currently language-first)
  b.  If it matches some specific languages which have predefined LANGUAGE
  combinations (i.e. mostly Scandinavian languages), display a
  select template which looks like
Choices: no:nb:nn:dk:sv, no:nn:nb:dk:sv, no:nn:nb:sv:dk, Manual selection
  c.  If the last choice is selected or if initial language has no
  predefined LANGUAGE combinations, display language-addtolist and loop
  until selection is over.

Denis


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Bug#182349: anna: Should reload packages file if something went wrong last time

[Martin Sjögren]

tis 2003-02-25 klockan 09.29 skrev Thomas Viehmann:
> Emm. Now I'm feeling stupid. Yes you're doing what I want for practical purposes.
> I must have done something really silly here to create the problematic setup and
> I cannot reproduce it without doing the following, which I admit to be rather
> artificial:
> - At no point provide Packages
> - Create Junk in Packages.gz
> - let installer fetch stuff, gunzip fails and the Packages.gz is left there
> - Replace Junk by real Packages.gz
> As an effect, anna will fail, but will succeed the next time debian-installer is
> started. Of course this could be avoided by removing the Packages.gz, but I
> don't think it's worth it if there is no better way to trigger it.
> Again, this is very artificial and it is not the original way I had this
> problem. However, I'm not able to reproduce it properly (partly because gunzip
> called by anna seems to succeed more often than gunzip on my host system).
> Sorry about that.

Ah, so I still forget to remove Packages.gz when something fails. Very
valid point, and I'll fix that in cvs. Thanks.


/Martin


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Package: anna
Version: N/A; reported 2003-02-24
Severity: whishlist

I think it would often be preferable if anna (i.e. menu option Load installer
modules) would reload package files if called for the second time.
(However, please feel free to close this bug if you disagree.)

Cheers

Thomas

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Matt Kraai wrote:
>>Are we talking about the s