Bug#157327: marked as done ([arm/riscstation] segmentation fault in dbootstrap)

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Package: boot-floppy
Version: 3.0.24-2002-08-13
Debian release: 3.0
Architecture: arm

kernel is 2.4.18-rmk5 with riscstation patches

dbootstrap: unhandled page fault at pc=3D0x4008fd94, lr=3D0x00014b44 (bad a=
ddress=3D0x, code 0)

pc: [<4008fd94>]lr: [<00014b44>]

sp : b6b0   ip: 00031658  fp: bea8
r10: 00032f50   r9: 0001b098  r8: 00023708
r7 : 0001   r6:   r5: 0003e2e0  r4: 
r3 : b6c0   r2:   r1:   r0: 

acorn-fdisk does not work, producing a segmentation fault, with the
following:

acorn-fdisk: unhandled page fault at pc=3D0xe8e4, lr=3D0x0005 (bad =
address=3D0x0005)

Having traced through, the faults seem to be comming from shared library
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This bug was a copy of #157697 which the riscstation sub-arch was
exhibiting in a different manner, the fix for #157697 has also fixed
this issue on the riscstation sub arch.

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Re: m68k, debian-installer, and DevFS

2003-03-01 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 12:00:43AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> Hi
> 
> As some of you are already aware, there's a problem wrt m68k in that
> there's no decent 2.4 kernel for m68k yet. As such, creating an m68k
> debian-installer image that actually works is a bit problematic right
> now, since debian-installer depends on DevFS quite a lot, while DevFS
> will only be found in 2.4-kernels.

[ I don't have any m68k machines ]

Can't you apply a devfs patch to a 2.2.x kernel?

ftp://ftp.atnf.csiro.au/pub/people/rgooch/linux/kernel-patches/v2.2/

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Re: m68k, debian-installer, and DevFS

2003-03-01 Thread Herbert Xu
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> 
> For example, I have been away from using sparc, but my question would be
> "is there much sparc32 kernel hacking going on? Is 2.4.x usable on sparc32?"

Architectures that are still having problems with 2.4 should probably
be dropped.  Since they aren't likely to work with 2.6 when it is released
or any future kernel release.  We cannot support old kernels indefinitely.
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Re: Bug#182849: net install - no DHCP after reboot

2003-03-01 Thread topo
> I would ...
i will do this new installation tomorrow

> Hope I could help!
definite, yes :-)


thanks

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Re: m68k, debian-installer, and DevFS

2003-03-01 Thread Junichi Uekawa
> > But you are right, we should get 2.4 working instead of hacking devfs into
> > or out of d-i...
> 
> Sure, but in the mean time we have to make sure there's an installer for
> m68k that actually works. Else we could just as well shut down all m68k
> buildd's, as it will not be worth it anymore.

It would be nice to have somewhat working support for 2.2 kernels,
for we might be unable to ship woody with decent support for 
some other arches.

For example, I have been away from using sparc, but my question would be
"is there much sparc32 kernel hacking going on? Is 2.4.x usable on sparc32?"


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Re: Bug#182849: net install - no DHCP after reboot

2003-03-01 Thread Andreas Wüst
Hello Thomas

Thomas Pohl wrote:

> Moin Martin,
> 
> Martin Sjögren wrote:
> 
>>> i took the Official net install iso-images for the "testing" release

Ok, that's the problem!

>> installing woody and using apt-get dist-upgrade.
>> 
>>  
>> 
> i'm afraid that's the same hint Andreas gave me...

Because it's probably the most sensible way to go ATM if you want to install
for real and not only want to do d-i testing!

> so, what should i do:
> 
> * download CD-Images ?
> * download inofficial net-install boot image for woody?
> * boot with existing official testing net-install image, but take woody 
> from net-server ?

I would download one of the inofficial net-install images for woody and also
go for woody during installation when it comes to choosing the distribution.

Afterwards do change "stable" to "testing" in your /etc/apt/sources.list
file, and then

# apt-get update
# apt-get dist-upgrade

Do this before you install any additional software, so you don't have to pull
some stuff twice. Oh, and, during installation, leave out the dselect
and tasksel steps. Better install aptitude by "apt-get install aptitude" after
you did the above mentioned dist-upgrade, but this is only my personal opinion
about the dselect and the tasksel tools, but obviously some people seem to
share this opinion with me (or better, I share it with them).

As I said before, I don't have any experience with the net install images. But
this is probably the safest way and should lead to success without further
hassles. But if you want to go for absolutely sure, download the full CD-Images, but 
then
you have to download several CD's since the different boot flavors are on
different discs AFAIR.

> * delete old installation or keep old testing installation an woody will 
> overwrite ?

No use anymore for the old one. If you want to go for sure, wipe it out before
you do a fresh install with some cool tools (dd or the like). But you can also choose
to totally repartition during the new install, this will wipe the partition table 
anyway,
and the following formatting should do the rest ;)

Hope I could help!

PS: Maybe it would be a good idea to add a comment to the net install page on d.o
which makes the purpose of the d-i test images more clear?

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Re: Bug#182849: net install - no DHCP after reboot

2003-03-01 Thread Thomas Pohl
Moin Martin,

Martin Sjögren wrote:

i took the Official net install iso-images for the "testing" release

installing woody and using apt-get dist-upgrade.

 

i'm afraid that's the same hint Andreas gave me...
so, what should i do:
* download CD-Images ?
* download inofficial net-install boot image for woody?
* boot with existing official testing net-install image, but take woody 
from net-server ?

* delete old installation or keep old testing installation an woody will 
overwrite ?

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Re: Bug#182849: net install - no DHCP after reboot

2003-03-01 Thread Martin Sjögren
lör 2003-03-01 klockan 14.15 skrev Thomas Pohl:
> i took the Official net install iso-images for the "testing" release
> 
> http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/i386/
> 
> debian home page propose to try "testing" for workstations, and i 
> thought new hardware new versions.

The problem is that the testing CDs' main purpose are testing the new
installer, and unfortunately the web site doesn't make this clear
enough.

If you want to use testing on your machine, I recommend installing woody
and using apt-get dist-upgrade.


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Re: Bug#182849: net install - no DHCP after reboot

2003-03-01 Thread Thomas Pohl


Please cc debian-boot, since I am not

OK, i  put me on the mailing list and checked archive for other answers.

1. download the net boot iso image and burn a boot CD
   

Just a short question: did you download the testing net install image or the stable net
install image?
 

i took the Official net install iso-images for the "testing" release

   http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/i386/

debian home page propose to try "testing" for workstations, and i 
thought new hardware new versions.

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Re: a graphical interface for debian-installer

2003-03-01 Thread Sebastian Ley
* Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:

> Are these libraries different (different ABI/API) from the ones in
> libdirectfb-0.9-16?  If they are, I'm interesting in why they are
> different, and how they are different.  If they are identical, you
> probably should use the same file names and sonames for the
> libraries in both packages.

The library in the normal .deb package has many features enabled that
we do not need in the installer library. The biggest disadvantage is,
that it is linked against xlib (I suppose for some additional font
rendering). This blows up the library unnecessarily and would require
us to package xlib for the installer as well (what we definitly not
want to do if we can go without). So I used other compile options to
compile the library, producing a binary incompatible library.

> Why do you need a special udeb-dev?

To provide the new library for installation on the build system, as
well as an appropriate development link. We need this for other udebs,
that contain programs or libraries that wil be linked against
libdirectfb.

Sebastian

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Re: Bug#182849: net install - no DHCP after reboot

2003-03-01 Thread Andreas Wüst
Hello Thomas

Please cc debian-boot, since I am not
experienced with the net install images, and the people reading -boot are in
fact the ones which built those images.

Thomas Pohl wrote:

> Andreas Wüst wrote:
>
>> Hi Thomas
>> 
>> Thomas Pohl wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>> Package: install-doc
>>> Version: 3.0.24
>>> 
>>> Installing Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 For Intel x86
>>> version 3.0.24, 18 December, 2002
>>> http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-init-config.en.html
>>> 
>>> Moin,
>>> 
>>> i made a installation with http on my new computer. DHCP was used. 
>>> After rebooting DHCP was not used.
>>>
>>> 
>> 
>> I don't understand. Was it not used because it didn't work, because you
>> didn't want it to be used, or because you broke it?
>> 
> OK, i try again to describe what i did.
> 
> If you want any log files (and tell me where to find) i can send it to you.
> 
> 1. download the net boot iso image and burn a boot CD

Just a short question: did you download the testing net install image or the stable net
install image?

> 2. buy a new Computer (i guess this is optional :-)
>P4 2,4, 512MB, Asus P4PE,  onboard ADI AD1980 audio, Broadcom BCM 
> 4401 Ethernet, ser, par, usb
>maxtor 120GB IDE, USB intelli Explorer Mouse, PS/2 Keyboard with 
> logo, Geforce4 Ti4200 128MB,
> 3. boot from CD but network is not found
> 4. put in 3Com 905B network card
> 5. Boot from CD , press F3 for net install
> 6. follow instructions and choose DHCP, http, www.uni-koeln.de, testing 
> (Sarge)

Why did you choose testing? I guess it would have been sensible to install
woody (stable) if you are using the stable net install images. Once installed,
you can always

apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade

to sarge (after providing the testing lines in sources.list).

If you installed using the testing images, don't expect it to work flawlessly
since it is still under development. From an earlier post to this list:

> I read through the install documents and found nothing anywhere near
> describing how to use this CD.
>
You obviously have grabbed a CD with the new installer
(debian-install, d-i for short). It's not yet in a state for general
consumption. If you want to install sarge, it'd be best to grab a
woody (netinst) CD and dist-upgrade to sarge (or unstable).


> 7. some downloading
> 8. request for rebooting, put out boot CD
> 9. boot
> 10. script is going on, but no network
> 11. made some brainstorming what to do, searched around, ifconfig eth0 
> showed not IP adress
> 12. go and get my Laptop an ask google how to set up network with DHCP - 
> found posted link
> 13. open /etc/network/interfaces with vi - was empty, only to comment lines
> 
># Used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8). See the interfaces(5) manpage or
># /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples for more information
> 
> 14. added this lines - installed no additional packages:
> 
>auto eth0
>iface eth0 inet dhcp
>hostname tpo
> 
> 15. reboot
> 16. http install is working (had fun!).
> 17. debian is working - gnome, mozilla etc, KDE is not working but this 
> is an other story - i am still reading documentation about this.
> 
>> If you chose DHCP during the first part of the installation, your
>> interfaces will be configured using DHCP every time you switch on your
>> computer.
>> 
> no, i think that's the problem !
> 
>>1. Your computer is trying to configure the interfaces during boot, but
>> you don't have any cable plugged in or your dhcp server isn't working. 
>> 
> DHCP was up an working, network was plugged in

Ok. Since you hadn't had the corresponding lines in interfaces, it is clear
that the networking scripts didn't configure it.

>> process. I can't imagine you wouldn't notice that booting takes extremely
>> long.
>> 
> long is relativ, it's my first debian net install - i do not remember
> (but a internet OS install give's me some crazy feeling of future is now 
> - remembering this disk jockey installs :-)

With long I mean you would have been annoyed by the boot process, but since
you aren't, it shouldn't be the case.

>> But if it does like that, and you'd like to configure the interfaces later
>> on
>> and not during boot (which is quite a natural setup for notebooks btw.),
>> the problem seems to be that
>> 
>>2. You don't know how to manually bring up the interfaces. Well, no
>> worrying, just issue
>> 
>># ifup eth0
>> 
>>to bring it up (eth0 or whatever, eth1, etc.). Note that this DOES
>> automatically use
>> DHCP if you chose DHCP during the installation process.
>> 
>>#ifdown eth0
>> 
>>to stop it (as before, eth0 or whichever your favorite interface is).
>> 
>> If this isn't the case, there could be a third problem,
>> 
>>3. The kernel you are using isn't compiled with
>> 
>>CONFIG_PACKET=y and
>>CONFIG_FILTER=y
>> 
>>This stuff is needed for the dhcp client to operate AFAIK.
>>  
>> 
> hmm, i am afraid i do not k

Re: soname versions in library udebs

2003-03-01 Thread Sebastian Ley
* Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:

> > Let us say a new version of libc or libdirectfb enters sid, and
> > udebs will be built accordingly. Since they do not have a SONAME
> > version, all dependant udebs will be broken because anna will pull
> > in the new version of the library via libc-udeb or
> > libdirectfb-udeb but the programms are linked against the old
> > ones. Correct?
> 
> Sounds correct to me.  And in these cases, we will need to rebuild
> all the incompatible udebs.  I'm not sure if this is a problem we
> need to care about or not.

Rebuilding needs time, and in between all netinstalls will be
broken. Or will there be a consistent set of udebs be held in another
location than /debian/pool? I suppose this will not be the case and
then we should add these soname information to package names.

Sebastian

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Re: TheBase System Installation

2003-03-01 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi,

On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 10:48:51AM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote, in an
exceptionally impolite mood:

> > file:/instmnt/pool/main/a/adduser/adduser_3.47_all.deb
> > was corrupt couldn't download adduser.
> 
> What is so hard to understand this message? Something is going wrong
> with your CDROM device or installation media.

/me, just to verify: 

strcmp_intelligent_but_not_computer_savvy_human_being("weird thingy
corrupt, couldn't download - download? that's odd, I'm installing from
CD, aren't I?", "something wrong with CD")

Returns -1. Nope, no match.

Cheers,


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Re: m68k, debian-installer, and DevFS

2003-03-01 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op za 01-03-2003, om 00:16 schreef Petter Reinholdtsen:
> [Wouter Verhelst]
> > As some of you are already aware, there's a problem wrt m68k in that
> > there's no decent 2.4 kernel for m68k yet. As such, creating an m68k
> > debian-installer image that actually works is a bit problematic right
> > now, since debian-installer depends on DevFS quite a lot, while DevFS
> > will only be found in 2.4-kernels.
> 
> It is good to see someone working on the non-i386 ports of d-i.  It is
> really needed.  How hard is it to get 2.4 kernels working in m68k?

That's a good question. There are actually some 2.4 kernels out there
for m68k, but they don't boot with recent glibc implementations.

I don't know the technical details about this; what I do know, is that
it will be hard for Debian to support 2.4 on m68k anytime soon.

> Why is it not done yet?  It has been a while since 2.4 arrived.

Lack of manpower, mainly. Interested kernel hackers are always welcome
to join the Linux/m68k effort. And yes, I'm interested, but I'm not
skilled enough to hack kernels (or C libraries, for that matter :-)

> > To work around this issue, I've been thinking of emulating DevFS in
> > user space (with some tricks that involve /etc/modules.conf, for
> > those interested). However, as I'm not going to implement every
> > possible piece of hardware 'out there', I'd like to know what
> > hardware debian-installer searches for, and only implement
> > that. This will obviously include hard disks and their partitions,
> > but what more?
> 
> I believe autopartkit/libpartedq uses /dev/discs/*.  I have no idea
> what the different parts of d-i needs in /dev/.

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Re: m68k, debian-installer, and DevFS

2003-03-01 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op za 01-03-2003, om 05:57 schreef Christian T. Steigies:
> But you are right, we should get 2.4 working instead of hacking devfs into
> or out of d-i...

Sure, but in the mean time we have to make sure there's an installer for
m68k that actually works. Else we could just as well shut down all m68k
buildd's, as it will not be worth it anymore.

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Re: Bug#182849: net install - no DHCP after reboot

2003-03-01 Thread Andreas Wüst
Hi

>3. The kernel you are using isn't compiled with
> 
>CONFIG_PACKET=y and
>CONFIG_FILTER=y
> 
>This stuff is needed for the dhcp client to operate AFAIK.

Sorry, of course you can also have them built as a module, but then you also have
to have them installed. Sorry for the confusion, I just wanted to emphasize the fact 
that
you need them in any case.

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Re: debian-installer status 2003-02-21

2003-03-01 Thread Martin Sjögren
ons 2003-02-26 klockan 15.08 skrev Martin Quinson:
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 11:32:36AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > * Larry Gilbert 
> > 
> > | Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > | >   Also, having somebody with a good touch for English to go
> > | >   through the templates would be nice.
> > | 
> > | I wouldn't mind helping with this, but I can't seem to figure out how
> > | to check out debian-installer from the CVS server (using
> > | -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/debian-installer gives me
> > | "/cvs/debian-installer: no such repository").  And once I do so, I'm
> > | not sure I'll know where the templates are. :-)
> > 
> > Look at http://raw.no/d-i/getting_started.html for some information on
> > getting started.
> 
> All templates (not only the ones from di) can be found from
> www.debian.org/intl/l10n/po-debconf

And there's also ddtp.debian.org. When ddtp fully supports po-debconf, I
think that is the preferred way of doing things.


/M


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Re: TheBase System Installation

2003-03-01 Thread Eduard Bloch
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* Bernard & Jean Dale [Sat, Mar 01 2003, 06:58:10PM]:
> I've tried a number of times to install 3.0r0 from a set of 7 cd's
> purchased over the internet but before the first installation cd has
> finished I'm advised that it is unable to install the base system.
> file:/instmnt/pool/main/a/adduser/adduser_3.47_all.deb
> was corrupt couldn't download adduser.

What is so hard to understand this message? Something is going wrong
with your CDROM device or installation media.

Gruss/Regards,
Eduard.
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Re: TheBase System Installation

2003-03-01 Thread Emile van Bergen
Dear mr. Dale,

On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 06:58:10PM +1000, Bernard & Jean Dale wrote:

> I've tried a number of times to install 3.0r0 from a set of 7 cd's
> purchased over the internet but before the first installation cd has
> finished I'm advised that it is unable to install the base system.
> file:/instmnt/pool/main/a/adduser/adduser_3.47_all.deb was corrupt
> couldn't download adduser.  
>
> Your valued assistance would be greatly appreciated by this 71y.o.
> newbie to computers in general and particularly to the "wonderful
> world of Linux".

I would suggest contacting your vendor and asking for a new CD 1, as one
of the files on it appears to be damaged.

> Regards to the team,
> Bernard Dale.
> The Gold Coast,Australia.

P.S. May I note a spectacular coincidence here? The Debian Project leader's
first name is 'Bdale'. It sure seems you've found your operating system.
Or someone has found an excellent way to pull my leg, I'm still not sure.

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Re: udeb priority issues

2003-03-01 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi,

On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 10:15:58AM +0100, Martin Sjögren wrote:

> lör 2003-03-01 klockan 09.08 skrev Emile van Bergen:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 10:00:24PM +0100, Martin Sjögren wrote:
> > 
> > > fre 2003-02-28 klockan 21.22 skrev Emile van Bergen:
> > > > I mean, "tasksel"?! No offense, but I highly doubt that a sane installer
> > > > really needs something like tasksel to select which installer modules
> > > > should be downloaded at run time before doing the actual installation.
> > > 
> > > I'd much prefer tasksel to dselect :) if we want to use analogies.
> > > Currently anna asks about individual modules, since there are just so
> > > ***ing many of them I want to simplify this, and tasks is one of my
> > > ideas, I welcome others. :)
> > 
> > Hm, staying with analogies, perhaps having an /etc/modules file in
> > addition to modconf would be an idea?
> 
> Whoops, terminology problem. I'm talking about "installer modules", i.e.
> udebs, not kernel modules.

Me too, sorry for the confusion, /etc/modules is just an analogy
("staying with analogies, ...").

Cheers,


Emile.

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RE: TheBase System Installation

2003-03-01 Thread David Turetsky









Someone else will be better equipped to
reply to your specific issue, but I wanted to give you feedback that I have
successfully installed 3.0r1 (rev 1) from 7 CD’s (mostly done with the 1st
CD) without such difficulties, so you may want to persist

 

If you’ve only recently purchased
your r0 set, perhaps they will do a free/low cost upgrade (say, paying for the
additional shipping costs)

 

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-Original Message-
From: Bernard & Jean Dale
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Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003
3:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TheBase System Installation

 



Hi Guys,





 





I've tried a number of times to
install 3.0r0 from a set of 7 cd's purchased over the internet but before the
first installation cd has finished I'm advised that it is unable to install the
base system.





   
file:/instmnt/pool/main/a/adduser/adduser_3.47_all.deb





was corrupt couldn't download
adduser.





Your valued assistance would be
greatly appreciated by this 71y.o. newbie to computers in general and
particularly to the "wonderful world of Linux".





Regards to the team,





Bernard Dale.





The Gold Coast,Australia.





 










Re: debian-installer status 2003-02-21

2003-03-01 Thread Martin Quinson
On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 11:32:36AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> * Larry Gilbert 
> 
> | Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> | >   Also, having somebody with a good touch for English to go
> | >   through the templates would be nice.
> | 
> | I wouldn't mind helping with this, but I can't seem to figure out how
> | to check out debian-installer from the CVS server (using
> | -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/debian-installer gives me
> | "/cvs/debian-installer: no such repository").  And once I do so, I'm
> | not sure I'll know where the templates are. :-)
> 
> Look at http://raw.no/d-i/getting_started.html for some information on
> getting started.

All templates (not only the ones from di) can be found from
www.debian.org/intl/l10n/po-debconf 

All of them may desserve attention from a native speaker, I guess.

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Re: udeb priority issues

2003-03-01 Thread Martin Sjögren
lör 2003-03-01 klockan 09.08 skrev Emile van Bergen:
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 10:00:24PM +0100, Martin Sjögren wrote:
> 
> > fre 2003-02-28 klockan 21.22 skrev Emile van Bergen:
> > > I mean, "tasksel"?! No offense, but I highly doubt that a sane installer
> > > really needs something like tasksel to select which installer modules
> > > should be downloaded at run time before doing the actual installation.
> > 
> > I'd much prefer tasksel to dselect :) if we want to use analogies.
> > Currently anna asks about individual modules, since there are just so
> > ***ing many of them I want to simplify this, and tasks is one of my
> > ideas, I welcome others. :)
> 
> Hm, staying with analogies, perhaps having an /etc/modules file in
> addition to modconf would be an idea?

Whoops, terminology problem. I'm talking about "installer modules", i.e.
udebs, not kernel modules.


/Martin


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TheBase System Installation

2003-03-01 Thread Bernard & Jean Dale



Hi Guys,
 
I've tried a number of times to install 3.0r0 from 
a set of 7 cd's purchased over the internet but before the first installation cd 
has finished I'm advised that it is unable to install the base 
system.
    
file:/instmnt/pool/main/a/adduser/adduser_3.47_all.deb
was corrupt couldn't download adduser.
Your valued assistance would be greatly appreciated 
by this 71y.o. newbie to computers in general and particularly to the "wonderful 
world of Linux".
Regards to the team,
Bernard Dale.
The Gold Coast,Australia.
 


Re: udeb priority issues

2003-03-01 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi,

On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 10:00:24PM +0100, Martin Sjögren wrote:

> fre 2003-02-28 klockan 21.22 skrev Emile van Bergen:
> > I mean, "tasksel"?! No offense, but I highly doubt that a sane installer
> > really needs something like tasksel to select which installer modules
> > should be downloaded at run time before doing the actual installation.
> 
> I'd much prefer tasksel to dselect :) if we want to use analogies.
> Currently anna asks about individual modules, since there are just so
> ***ing many of them I want to simplify this, and tasks is one of my
> ideas, I welcome others. :)

Hm, staying with analogies, perhaps having an /etc/modules file in
addition to modconf would be an idea?

The different flavours listed below would each have its own
"/etc/modules" file; you'd have a medium-priority question whether you
want to choose your own modules to override them or use the default for
your d-i flavour.

The default "/etc/modules" could be arch-specific if there are any
modules that are required on some architectures but are not
automatically pulled in. Don't know if that's the case though.

> > Personally, I'd be just as happy if you'd have to choose between
> > network-enabled and media-only installs at installer build time. Nobody
> > will complain that he'll need specific floppies, instead of having one
> > set that is so smart it can bootstrap itself out of every situation
> > using a two-stage system.
> 
> So we'd have the 1.44M netfloppy, the 1.44M cd floppy, the 2.88M image
> for CDs and another 2.88M image for netinst CD? Fine by me.
> 
> I don't want the user to have to choose the network installation task, I
> want it to be installed automatically on a netinst CD and forgotten on a
> non-netinst CD (on a netfloppy they'll all already be installed).

That sounds like a good idea?

Cheers,


Emile.

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