Bug#241256: possible discover bug ? (Was Re: Bug#241256: Debian-Installer bug report)

2004-04-04 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Sven Luther]
 What about using the kernel source as inspiration ? 
[...]
 #define PCI_VENDOR_ID_SUN   0x108e
 #define PCI_DEVICE_ID_SUN_GEM   0x2bad
 #define PCI_DEVICE_ID_SUN_RIO_GEM   0x1101
 #define PCI_VENDOR_ID_APPLE 0x106b
 #define PCI_DEVICE_ID_APPLE_UNI_N_GMAC  0x0021
 #define PCI_DEVICE_ID_APPLE_UNI_N_GMACP 0x0024
 #define PCI_DEVICE_ID_APPLE_UNI_N_GMAC2 0x0032
 #define PCI_DEVICE_ID_APPLE_K2_GMAC 0x004c
 
 Taken from the sungem driver of the 2.4.25-powerpc kernel.

Very good idea.  Here is the current status for these ids:

 % egrep '108e2bad|108e1101|106b0021|106b0024|106b0032|106b004c' pci.lst
106b0021ethernetsungem  UniNorth GMAC (Sun GEM)
106b0024ethernetsungem  UniNorth/Pangea GMAC (Sun GEM)
106b0032unknown unknown UniNorth 2 GMAC (Sun GEM)
108e1101ethernetsungem  RIO GEM
108e2badethernetsungem  GEM

I added sungem as the driver for 106b0032 in CVS.


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Re: base-installer_0.066_powerpc.changes ACCEPTED

2004-04-04 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 01:16:27PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
 Sven Luther wrote:
   /build/build/cdebconf-0.58/src/debconf.c:115 (main): Error reading 
   configuration information
   /build/build/cdebconf-0.58/src/debconf-loadtemplate.c:68 (main): Error reading 
   configuration information
  
  Ok, this seems broken today, i have had three reports about this.
 
 Cdebconf was recently broken to not include /etc/cdebconf.conf. This was
 fixed in version 0.59, released on April 1.

Ok, so it got easily fixed for pure netboot installs, but takes a bit
more time/effort for iso based installs.

BTW, kernel-package broke the powerpc kernel again, i will now get rid
of kernel-package for at least the powerpc post/pre inst/rm scripts, and
replace them by debconf aware scripts.

Is this ok, and if there is an error message, will it still abort
base-installer, or popup the debconf questions ? 

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country?

2004-04-04 Thread Herbert Xu
Alastair McKinstry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Agreed the official short names are ugly ;
 (http://www.iso.org/iso/en/prods-services/iso3166ma/02iso-3166-code-lists/list-en1.html)
 eg. LAO PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC, LIBYAN ARAB JAMAHIRIYA for
 those countries normally called Laos and Libya. However, sometimes
 the short version is the problem too: eg. do we allow 
 MACEDONIA, THE FORMER YUGOSLAV REPUBLIC OF, to be shortened to
 Macedonia? I'm sure the Greeks won't agree to that ...

Well for the same reason most of thel mainland Chinese people will
disagree with showing just Taiwan instead of the longer version.
In fact, you'll probably get Debian banned by the Chinese government
should they get wind of this fact.
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Re: Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country?

2004-04-04 Thread Herbert Xu
Carlos Z.F. Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 05:48:43PM -0800, Anthony Johnson wrote:
 No, some of you did, but more don't(especially people
 in China mainland), AFAIK.
 As a chinese, I think most people in mainland won't mind using Taiwan
 here. Even in many governmental newspapers, they also use Taiwan
 directly sometimes.

In the context of choosing the name of a country, you'll find that most
of the mainland popluation are willing to go to war on this.
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Re: Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country?

2004-04-04 Thread Herbert Xu
Tetralet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 We, the debian users in Taiwan, Hongkong and mainland China, have 
 discussed about this for several days.
 You may visit http://moto.debian.org.tw/viewtopic.php?t=3192 for more 
 details.

Yeah right, all I see is a bunch Taiwanese separatists.  I'm sure
you'll find a totally different result if you tried this on a mainland
website.

 People who install Debian via debian-installer will find that Taiwan 
 was replaced with Taiwan, Province of China.
 They may not detect immediately that this country code is based on ISO-3166,
 But they will think that Debian is discriminating against Taiwan people.
 It will not be a very good first impression to Debian users.
 
 And, It is a gross disparagement to Taiwan people.
 Thus some of us may refuse to use Debian anymore.

Who cares? It'd be much better if you didn't use Debian at all.
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Bug#241256: possible discover bug ? (Was Re: Bug#241256: Debian-Installer bug report)

2004-04-04 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 09:48:28AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 [Sven Luther]
  What about using the kernel source as inspiration ? 
 [...]
  #define PCI_VENDOR_ID_SUN   0x108e
  #define PCI_DEVICE_ID_SUN_GEM   0x2bad
  #define PCI_DEVICE_ID_SUN_RIO_GEM   0x1101
  #define PCI_VENDOR_ID_APPLE 0x106b
  #define PCI_DEVICE_ID_APPLE_UNI_N_GMAC  0x0021
  #define PCI_DEVICE_ID_APPLE_UNI_N_GMACP 0x0024
  #define PCI_DEVICE_ID_APPLE_UNI_N_GMAC2 0x0032
  #define PCI_DEVICE_ID_APPLE_K2_GMAC 0x004c
  
  Taken from the sungem driver of the 2.4.25-powerpc kernel.
 
 Very good idea.  Here is the current status for these ids:
 
  % egrep '108e2bad|108e1101|106b0021|106b0024|106b0032|106b004c' pci.lst
 106b0021ethernetsungem  UniNorth GMAC (Sun GEM)
 106b0024ethernetsungem  UniNorth/Pangea GMAC (Sun GEM)
 106b0032unknown unknown UniNorth 2 GMAC (Sun GEM)
 108e1101ethernetsungem  RIO GEM
 108e2badethernetsungem  GEM
 
 I added sungem as the driver for 106b0032 in CVS.

Ok, thanks.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Bug#241817: install: does not create yaboot partition

2004-04-04 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 01:20:17PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
 Sven Luther wrote:
  The idea is that some hardware configurations needs some particular
  partitions to be there (like a prep boot partition or a palo boot
  partition, or the yaboot boot partition on pmac), or even some
  filesystem to be used for the /boot partition (like affs on pegasos 1).
 
 Notice that there already exists a partman-palo package to do this for
 hppa. You just need to make some kind of partman-yaboot, I suppose.

Ok. Is it advisable to create a partman-yaboot, partman-prep,
partman-pegasos package, or a single partman-powerpc which will hold all
the above subarches ?

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Re: Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country?

2004-04-04 Thread Carlos Z.F. Liu
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 11:27:05PM -0800, Anthony Johnson wrote:
 
 --- Carlos Z.F. Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 05:48:43PM -0800, Anthony
  Johnson wrote:
   No, some of you did, but more don't(especially
  people
   in China mainland), AFAIK.
  As a chinese, I think most people in mainland won't
  mind using Taiwan
 I am also Chinese(please do not use 'chinese')
 I don't think so. Many people do mind here.
So, you should kick CCTV and communist party's ass, before you speak
here. IIRC, They alway said Chen Shui-Bian as Taiwan's leader, not
Taiwan province's leader. They said that Taiwan is a part of China,
but never use Taiwan province is a part of China.

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Re: Re: Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country?

2004-04-04 Thread Carlos Z.F. Liu
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 08:27:38AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
 Hmmm, yes, that is indeed right. We never found a way to solve this as
 the short list is built on the fly.
 
 But, there is AFAIK no bug report about this.or if there is one,
 it is not assigned to countrychooser.
 
 Someone should report one, just for the record.
OK, I reported it, just for the record.
Thanks.

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Bug#241817: install: does not create yaboot partition

2004-04-04 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 11:15:30AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 [Joey mentions the existence of a partman-palo package]
  Ok. Is it advisable to create a partman-yaboot, partman-prep,
  partman-pegasos package, or a single partman-powerpc which will hold all
  the above subarches ?
 
 either way, please don't forget quik or oldworld...

You are welcome to provide information on the oldworld partitioning
requirement, especially those needed for quik.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Bug#242006: countrychooser: Country names remain in english in the screen immediately after languagechooser

2004-04-04 Thread Carlos Z.F. Liu
Package: countrychooser
Severity: normal
Tags: l10n

Hello,

If the language I chose in languagechooser didn't provide a default
country, then, in the next screen of countrychooser, all possible
country names are still in english, except Other. But, translated
names could be seen in the full country list, after I choose Other.

Thanks

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Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (990, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.4.25-1-686
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.UTF-8


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Bug#242007: countrychooser: Translate the list of country names

2004-04-04 Thread Alastair McKinstry
Package: countrychooser
Version: 0.013
Severity: normal


Please translate the short list of country names, as well as the full
country names list. 

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers experimental
  APT policy: (990, 'experimental'), (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.4-1-686
Locale: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ignored: LC_ALL set to ga_IE.UTF-8)


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Bug#241847: 3rd of April, daily build powerpc-small root floppy broken

2004-04-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

 For info, this is not the only case, so i suppose that debian-installer
 is currently broken. I have had a report on pegasos for this, and just
 saw Arturo report the same thing on irc on his x86 box.

 You can try the just uploading version of the root floppy (2004.04.03),
 or an earlier one (2004.03.31 for example).

I just tried the floppies from 
http://people.debian.org/~luther/debian-installer/daily-powerpc-built/current/powerpc-small/floppy/
 
which were built (or copied there) on 03-Apr-2004 09:01.

Still no luck with the bootfloppy. Same as yesterday (but I only tried three 
floppy discs six times...) : The mac-tux gets black, the floppy ejected, the 
system freezes. So I took Jeremie boot-floppy again...

The new root.img of yours now works again, fine. 

But after loading the net-drivers floppy the installations get thrown into d-i 
main menu, prompting me to select my keyboard. Which I have already done, but 
if I select to choose my keyboard, nothing happens. So I continue with 
detecting network hardware, but with an english keyboard layout now.

Detecting network hardware, then network settings works fine and the 
installation continues. Since the base-install takes about an hour I don't 
now (yet) how it will continue...


So, should 241847 be closed now and another one opened for getting thrown back 
to the main menu ?

(Installation on Powermac 4400/2000 with 48mb ram)


regards,
Holger



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Bug#241817: install: does not create yaboot partition

2004-04-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

[Joey mentions the existence of a partman-palo package]
 Ok. Is it advisable to create a partman-yaboot, partman-prep,
 partman-pegasos package, or a single partman-powerpc which will hold all
 the above subarches ?

either way, please don't forget quik or oldworld...


regards,
Holger



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Re: Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country?

2004-04-04 Thread Carlos Z.F. Liu
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 06:24:02PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
 Carlos Z.F. Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 05:48:43PM -0800, Anthony Johnson wrote:
  No, some of you did, but more don't(especially people
  in China mainland), AFAIK.
  As a chinese, I think most people in mainland won't mind using Taiwan
  here. Even in many governmental newspapers, they also use Taiwan
  directly sometimes.
 
 In the context of choosing the name of a country, you'll find that most
 of the mainland popluation are willing to go to war on this.
Yes, I knew that.

I just look at a Windows XP machine, MS use location instead of
Country, territory and area as the label, and use Taiwan in the
list. NO ONE complain about it.

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Bug#241847: 3rd of April, daily build powerpc-small root floppy broken

2004-04-04 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 11:24:25AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
  For info, this is not the only case, so i suppose that debian-installer
  is currently broken. I have had a report on pegasos for this, and just
  saw Arturo report the same thing on irc on his x86 box.
 
  You can try the just uploading version of the root floppy (2004.04.03),
  or an earlier one (2004.03.31 for example).
 
 I just tried the floppies from 
 http://people.debian.org/~luther/debian-installer/daily-powerpc-built/current/powerpc-small/floppy/
  
 which were built (or copied there) on 03-Apr-2004 09:01.

Currenytly uploading 2004.04.04.

 Still no luck with the bootfloppy. Same as yesterday (but I only tried three 
 floppy discs six times...) : The mac-tux gets black, the floppy ejected, the 
 system freezes. So I took Jeremie boot-floppy again...

Mmm, strange. Jeremie, could you test the boot floppies i build ? 

 The new root.img of yours now works again, fine. 

Ok.

 But after loading the net-drivers floppy the installations get thrown into d-i 
 main menu, prompting me to select my keyboard. Which I have already done, but 
 if I select to choose my keyboard, nothing happens. So I continue with 
 detecting network hardware, but with an english keyboard layout now.
 
 Detecting network hardware, then network settings works fine and the 
 installation continues. Since the base-install takes about an hour I don't 
 now (yet) how it will continue...
 
 
 So, should 241847 be closed now and another one opened for getting thrown back 
 to the main menu ?

Yes, please.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Bug#241817: install: does not create yaboot partition

2004-04-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

 You are welcome to provide information on the oldworld partitioning
 requirement, especially those needed for quik.

Ok, what I know is:
 
1. no need for a NewWorld bootblock-partition as yaboot/newworld needs,
(Currently none gets created on my system.)

2. quik is very old (1998?) and someone (I could search who) mentioned, that 
the kernel image has to be on the first blocks of the harddisc to be found by 
quik, so on a 120gb harddisc there must be at least four partitions: 
Apple_partition_map, /boot, / (root) and swap. Unfortunatly I have no idea, 
where the limit is. I'm testing here with to hds: a Quantum Fireball with 
1.2gb and a Samsung whatever with 120gb. As soon as I made my first 
succesfull install on the big disc I will report it here.

3. On some Systems OpenFirmware variables has to be set to boot from hard disc 
instead of floppy. On an PowerMac 4400/2000 the commands to do it are:

nvsetenv boot-device ata/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0
nvsetenv boot-file /boot/vmlinux-2.4.25-powerpc-small
nvsetenv output-device   screen
nvsetenv input-devicekbd

For other modells it must be similar (with other values...) but really I don't 
know since I only have experience with oldworld hardware for three month :(


hope that helped,
regards,
Holger 



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Bug#242010: debian installer b3 bug report

2004-04-04 Thread mark
Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: Debian installer beta 3 from official debian
installer page
uname -a: The result of running uname -a on a shell prompt
Date: 04/04/20034
Method: both D-I Beta 3 businesscard and 100 Mb installation CD-rom

Machine: AMD Duron 1200
Processor: AMD Duron 1200
Memory: 25M6 Mb PC133 SDRAM
Root Device: would have been /dev/hda if I had succeeded in getting that far
Root Size/partition table: Empty
Output of lspci:
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8361 [KLE133] Host Bridge
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8361 [KLE133] AGP Bridge
00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South] (rev 40)
00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 1a)
00:07.4 Bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (rev 40)
00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97
Audio Controller (rev 50)
00:08.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C
(rev 10)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1


Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[X]
Configure network HW:   [E]
Config network: [E]
Detect CD:  [E]
Load installer modules: [?]
Detect hard drives: [E]
Partition hard drives:  [E]
Create file systems:[E]
Mount partitions:   [E]
Install base system:[E]
Install boot loader:[E]
Reboot: [E]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:
Machine hard locks after trying to detect hardware. I suspect the outdated
BIOS and buggy DMA support.
CD drive is a combo thing.

MDK 10 also hard locks when trying to access the CD-Rom drive.
RH 9 hard locked on this machine when trying to write a CD with DMA enabled.
No problem with the Knoppix rescue CD:
Linux Knoppix 2.4.20-xfs #1 SMP Mit Jan 29 18:47:59 CET 2003 i686 AMD
Duron(tm) processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

Will look into a BIOS upgrade and see if that is part of the problem.

Mark


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Bug#241847: 3rd of April, daily build powerpc-small root floppy broken

2004-04-04 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 11:44:55AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
  Currenytly uploading 2004.04.04.
 
 fine ;) 
 
   So, should 241847 be closed now and another one opened for getting thrown
   back to the main menu ?
  Yes, please.
 
 Ok, I'll do that after I tried the new floppies. Can I close a bug or only d-i 
 developers ?

Sure, you can.  mail to bugnumber[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Bug#241847: 3rd of April, daily build powerpc-small root floppy broken

2004-04-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

 Currenytly uploading 2004.04.04.

fine ;) 

  So, should 241847 be closed now and another one opened for getting thrown
  back to the main menu ?
 Yes, please.

Ok, I'll do that after I tried the new floppies. Can I close a bug or only d-i 
developers ?


regards,
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Re: About that Alpha kernel bug mentioned in beta3 errata

2004-04-04 Thread Herbert Xu
Bjoern Brill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 The symlink gets created in drivers/cdrom/cdrom.c:register_cdrom():
 
if (pos = 0) {
char vname[16];
sprintf (vname, cdrom%d, cdi-number);
strncpy (rname + pos, ../, 3);
devfs_mk_symlink (devfs_handle, vname,
  DEVFS_FL_DEFAULT,
  rname + pos, slave, NULL);
devfs_auto_unregister (cdi-de, slave);
}
 
 That piece of code is shared by all kinds of cdroms, and all
 architectures... so how can it be broken on alpha and not on x86,
 and with SCSI but not IDE? I think the strncpy (rname + pos, ../, 3);
 call fails, and strncpy is arch specific. This would mean that, in the
 end, alpha stxncpy.S is broken again. I don't know enough alpha assembly

Good catch.

Can you either build a new kernel with stxncpy.S disabled, or try
the image from

http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/debian/kernel/binary/2.4.25/alpha-generic/

and see if the problem goes away?

If it does, then I'll turn stxncpy off until it's fixed.

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Daily build broken for x86?

2004-04-04 Thread Andrew Pollock
Hi,

I've just tried booting with 20040331 and 20040402, and both seem to get
stuck in a loop early in the boot process, with something about being unable
to load some usb{keyboard,mouse} etc modules, and something about Joey
Hess's home directory getting spat out repeatedly.

Are the daily builds for x86 broken at present (if so, what's the last build
that works?), or have I struck some odd bug with my system?

regards

Andrew


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powerpc-pmac-small daily built boot.img broken (Re: base-installer_0.066_powerpc.changes ACCEPTED

2004-04-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Package: debian-installer

or is it boot-floppies ? 

Hi,

  yeah, that's theoretics. but I tried 8 floppies (all new), writings them
  once and reading (=booting) at least twice, none work. but after that,
  when I used the old working boot floppy from jeremie, three of them
  worked as root-floppies!
 Can you use compare to compare the written floppy to the image used ?

just to be sure, I did this:
dd if=boot.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024 conv=sync ; sync
dd if=/dev/fd0 of=bootfd0.img bs=1024 conv=sync ; sync
diff -a boot.img bootfd0.img

And that floppy doesn't boot,too. So your boot.img is broken. So I'll file a 
bug.

Another thing I found out: whith your (broken) boot-floppy the floppy disc 
gets ejected. If the boot floppy boots ok, there is the prompt saying I 
should insert the root disk, but I have to eject the boot disk by myself. 

   Maybe you could try loop mounting both root floppies, and compare them.
 Well, if the problem is with the root.img, knowing what the difference
 between the working image and the bad one is, would be a good idea.

Since _this_ problem is fixed now, I don't have to do that anymore.

  there are at least five days in between the creation of the images, I
  expect a lot to have changed.
 Yeah, and packages used which are not in the debian-installer svn, and a
 different box used, and ...

Uups? What packages not in d-i svn to you use ?


regards,
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instalation report

2004-04-04 Thread Petrisor Eddy
Package: installation-reports 

Debian-installer-version: NetInst Snapshot i386 20040401 
uname -a: 
Linux sarge 2.4.25-1-386 #1 Tue Feb 24 08:11:13 EST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux

Date: Date and time of the install 
Method: NetInst image - normal instalation (not expert mode) installed
from ftp.at.debian.org ; not proxied 

Machine: Homegrown - real system (not wmvare) 
Processor: AMD Duron 750MHz Abit kt7a motherboard 
Memory: 256 MB SDRAM 
Root Device: IDE 
Root Size/partition table: Feel free to paste the full partition 
  table, with notes on which partitions are mounted where. 
Output of lspci: 

00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133]
(rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133 AGP]
00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South]
(rev 40)
00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc.
VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT8233/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 16)
00:07.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 16)
00:07.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI]
(rev 40)
00:08.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT86C100A [Rhine]
(rev 06)
00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX
440 AGP 8x] (rev a2)


Base System Installation Checklist: 

Initial boot worked:[O] 
Configure network HW:   [O] 
Config network: [O] 
Detect CD:  [O] 
Load installer modules: [O] 
Detect hard drives: [O] 
Partition hard drives:  [x] 
Create file systems:[O] 
Mount partitions:   [O] 
Install base system:[O] 
Install boot loader:[O] 
Reboot: [O] 
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it 

Comments/Problems: 

Everything went preety smooth... 

A few comments(C), wishes(W) and sugestions(S): 

W,S:At the nameserver dialog box there should be a mention of DNS along
with the nameserver, as most Bob users would rather now (heard) about
DNS server. 

C: grub - still the window under the current one is visible (ugly) -
just a reminder 

W: other OS-es detection (still unavailable?) hint: SuSE detects quite
well windows installs, but doesn't have an option to insert other linux
instalations - di doesn't habe this also, and this sux (had to modify
the grub menu.lst file by hand afterwards to boot into my woody
instalation) 

W,S: in second stage installer the button positions are reversed (should
not); I was really confused about this... - I think the fix is
trivial... 

C,S,W: after the root password dialog the default user dialog appears
without ANY info, so the regular Bod user might be confused by this (I
surely was, and I am not a beginner in using Linux). There should be
some short info about the default user just enough to make it clear that
is a regular user, and this info is not related to the root user. 

W: Please use locale info to automatically select (not to pass over the
dialog) a mirror; I am from Romania, so the by default selection
should be ftp.ro.debian.org and shuld allow me to change this ;) . OTOH,
selecting ftp.ro.debian.org resulted in the hanging of the installer
(other tty available) - maybe the site was unavaliable (didn't check)???


PS: I will send another mail with more comments about the di (expert
mode and some other things). 



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Bug#238228: FTBFS: setgid DEBIAN directory

2004-04-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 06:13:58PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 05:42:22PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
 I can't find anything wrong with this package - it builds just fine
 and the debian/ dir is not setgid in the .tar.gz. Can you check this
 again?
 
 Gah, f*cked up looking at the package - it _does_ have the setgid dirs
 that you listed. But nonetheless running dpkg-buildpackage and
 pdebuild here don't show any problems actually building the
 package. Am I missing something here?

Based on previous experience with similar bugs, it'll only happen if the
directory in which you unpack the source package is setgid.

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Bug#241847: marked as done (3rd of April, daily build powerpc-small root floppy broken)

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Package: debian-installer

floppy images from=20
http://people.debian.org/~luther/debian-installer/daily-powerpc-built/curre=
nt/powerpc-small/floppy/=20
at 2004-04-03, 10:00:00 CEST 2004

Since I couldn't get a working boot floppy from these images (no idea wheth=
er=20
the image is broken or I had just bad luck with 20 tries and 8 floppies) I=
=20
used my old boot floppy from 2004-03-26? from Jeremie K=F6nig and a new roo=
t=20
floppy made from the above source.

The root-floppy gets loaded, it starts but almost=20
instantly hangs with:

/build/build/cdebconf-0.58/src/debconf.c:115 (main): Error reading=20
configuration information
/build/build/cdebconf-0.58/src/debconf-loadtemplate.c:68 (main): Error read=
ing=20
configuration information

(I also tried three different boot-floppies, the same error. (As expected a=
s=20
they're read ok and load into ramdisk fine.)

So I guess, the root floppy images are broken :(


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Hi,

root-floppies as of 2004-04-03 and 2004-04-04 are ok.


regards,
Holger

  Ok, I'll do that after I tried the new floppies. Can I close a bug or
  only d-i developers ?
 Sure, you can.  mail to bugnumber[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Processing of busybox-cvs_20040402-1_i386.changes

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Re: splitting root floppy by languages

2004-04-04 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Christian Perrier wrote:

 Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
 Everything except the asian langs currently fits on one floppy still,
 but that is unlikely to last. I need to find some way to split the latin
 languages, or perhaps split out the cryllic ones.
 
 This would give us:
 
 Asian root: 4languages: ja, ko, zh_TW, zh_CN
 Cyrillic root: 3Languages: ru, uk, bg
 BIDI root: 2languages: ar, he
 
 Others root: 29languages
Hmm.  Indonesian (id) has its own alphabet.  So does Turkish (tr).

 
 
 (the current target is 38 languages supported2 being currently not
 started)
 
 The BIDI support heavily depends on current work. If we do no succeed
 in finding a way to displat RTL languages, we will be forced to drop
 them from languagechooser.
 
 It this technical (or pseudo-technical) split is enough, it has my
 preferrence. Otherwise, we could very quickly run in non-technical
 problems (is Lithuanian part of Scandinavian or East-European or
 whatever).
You could go with the language familes.  These are mostly in ISO 639a,
though that doesn't have bs (Bosnian), or nb and nn (Norwegian was still
no).  They're also accurate as far as I know linguistically.  :-)

ASIAN: ja, ko, zh_CN, zh_TW
SEMITIC: ar, he
SLAVIC: bg, bs, cs, pl, ru, sk, sl, uk
ROMANCE: ca, es, fr, gl, it, pt, pt_BR, ro
GERMANIC: da, de, en, nl, nb, nn, sv 
FINNO-UGRIC: fi, hu
other families: cy, el, id, lt, sq, tr

(Incidentally, this indicates that the translations do tend to be of a
fairly small number of language families, mostly the European ones.  For
instance, there isn't a single native Indian language translation or one
for any traditional sub-Saharan African language.  I guess this shouldn't
have surprised me, but it did.)

Of course, en will probably be on every disk.  Looking at number of
languages, this would be a split-up with lots of breathing room:

Asian root (4 languages + lots and lots of non-Latin characters)
Semitic root (2 languages + BIDI + 2 non-Latin scripts)
Slavic root (8 languages + Cyrillic + some accented Latin characters,
punctuation)
Romance root (8 langauges + some accented Latin characters, punctuation)
Germanic root (7 languages + some accented Latin characters, punctuation)
Other root (8 languages with few similarities + some accented Latin
characters, punctuation)

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Re: powerpc-pmac-small daily built boot.img broken (Re: base-installer_0.066_powerpc.changes ACCEPTED

2004-04-04 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 01:17:51PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
 Package: debian-installer
 
 or is it boot-floppies ? 

Nope, is ok, boot-floppies was the old woody and before installer.

   yeah, that's theoretics. but I tried 8 floppies (all new), writings them
   once and reading (=booting) at least twice, none work. but after that,
   when I used the old working boot floppy from jeremie, three of them
   worked as root-floppies!
  Can you use compare to compare the written floppy to the image used ?
 
 just to be sure, I did this:
 dd if=boot.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024 conv=sync ; sync
 dd if=/dev/fd0 of=bootfd0.img bs=1024 conv=sync ; sync
 diff -a boot.img bootfd0.img
 
 And that floppy doesn't boot,too. So your boot.img is broken. So I'll file a 
 bug.

Ok, i don't know why though. Maybe i should check out the rsrce package.

 Another thing I found out: whith your (broken) boot-floppy the floppy disc 
 gets ejected. If the boot floppy boots ok, there is the prompt saying I 
 should insert the root disk, but I have to eject the boot disk by myself. 

Cool, but we still do not know why.

Maybe you could try loop mounting both root floppies, and compare them.
  Well, if the problem is with the root.img, knowing what the difference
  between the working image and the bad one is, would be a good idea.
 
 Since _this_ problem is fixed now, I don't have to do that anymore.

Yep.

   there are at least five days in between the creation of the images, I
   expect a lot to have changed.
  Yeah, and packages used which are not in the debian-installer svn, and a
  different box used, and ...
 
 Uups? What packages not in d-i svn to you use ?

Well, not all packages used in the build are coming from the d-i svn,
some are plain debian packages comming from the archive, and naturally,
the miboot package.

Friendly,

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Re: corrections

2004-04-04 Thread Nathanael Nerode
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snip
 3) regarding having to have mac os installed (however small), would
 immediately put stuff (d-i ?) into non-free
Contrib, actually.

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Bug#240918: marked as done (__NR__llseek undeclared when compiling on amd64.)

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When trying to build the package I get the following error:
gcc -I./include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 
-D_GNU_SOURCE -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wshadow -Os -fomit-frame-pointer -DNDEBUG 
-c -o
util-linux/fdisk.o util-linux/fdisk.c
util-linux/fdisk.c: In function `my_llseek':
util-linux/fdisk.c:873: error: `__NR__llseek' undeclared (first use in this function)
util-linux/fdisk.c:873: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only 
onceutil-linux/fdisk.c:873: error: for each function it appears in.)
make[1]: *** [util-linux/fdisk.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/busybox-cvs-20040101'
make: *** [build-arch-static-stamp] Error 2


Patch:
--- fdisk.c.old 2004-03-29 16:19:12.491937714 -0600
+++ fdisk.c 2004-03-29 16:20:14.076090497 -0600
@@ -856,7 +856,7 @@
  */


-#if defined(__alpha__) || defined(__ia64__) || defined(__s390x__)
+#if defined(__alpha__) || defined(__ia64__) || defined(__s390x__) || defined 
(__x86_64__)

 #define my_llseek lseek



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Re: Removing unused d-i udebs from archive

2004-04-04 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Thiemo Seufer wrote:

 Thorsten Sauter wrote:
 
 Hello d-i peoples,
 
 since we have partman now, I'm wondering if it is time to remove some
 unused packages from the archive. This will reduce the size of available
 packages for d-i and makes my bugs list smaller. :-)
 
 I have an eye on the following packages:
 - lvmcfg
 - partconf
 - partitioner
 
 partconf and partitioner are still in use for arm and mips.
Eeeww... why was this?  I remember partman/libparted had trouble making DVH
disklabels... was that the only reason for MIPS?  What's the problem for
arm?

 
 
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Re: Re: [i18n] String Changes in iso-codes

2004-04-04 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Christian Perrier wrote:
 the zh_TW language.

Seriously, it shouldn't be zh_(COUNTRY) at *all* -- it's certainly possible
to use traditional Chinese in mainland China and it's done when copying
ancient texts.  The (language)_(country) system is only really appropriate
when the country corresponds to the dialect, which it usually doesn't.

Unfortunately there's no method to specify (language)_(writing-system),
which is what is really wanted.  It would also be useful for other
languages.  For a truly painful example, consider the Central Asian
languages such as Uzbek, which have been written in Arabic, Roman, *and*
Cyrillic alphabets, although the spoken language hasn't really changed that
much.  Also consider oddities like writing in transliteration (Chinese in
Wade-Giles or Pinyin, Japanese in Roman script), languages like
Serbo-Croatian (same language, different alphabets) and... well, you get
the point.

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Bug#242021: back to main menu after reading net-drivers.floppy (2004-04-04, oldworld ppc, netinstall with floppies)

2004-04-04 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 01:36:20PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
 The 2004-04-04 installation is still ongoing, with 2004-04-03 I still had the 
 bug #241228 (You are attempting to install an initrd kernel image (version 
 2.4.25-powerpc-small.  This will not work unless you have configured your boot 
 loader to use initrd...) which I thought was fixed with 
 base-installer_0.066_powerpc.changes ? I'll add info to bug#241228 if 
 2004-04-04 also shows this bug.

Are you using testing or unstable ?

Friendly,

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Bug#240721: debian-installer-demo: localisation set during install is not active afterwards

2004-04-04 Thread C. Gatzemeier

additional information:
When choosing a keymap (again!) during base-config and selecting qwertz and 
then german the F1-F12 and other non alpha-numerical keys do not work.

I found out that by re-running dpkg-reconfigure console-data and selecting 
kemap from complete list the situation is somewhat improved. Still 
page-up/down, and the smaler/lager than, and pipe characters don't work.

(PC, non USB, qwertz, german, nodeadkeys)


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Re: Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country?

2004-04-04 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Alastair McKinstry wrote:

 D Domh, 2004-04-04 ag 02:53 +0200, scrobh Frans Pop:
 
 I really think that using the 'really' short names (that is just plain
 Taiwan instead of Taiwan, P.. of C..) would not be a bad compromise
 despite what the official so called short UN names say.
And note that it *is* a compromise, since the offical Taiwanese government
version would be short name China, long name Republic of China, with
the mainland government being People's Republic of China.

 Agreed the official short names are ugly ;

(http://www.iso.org/iso/en/prods-services/iso3166ma/02iso-3166-code-lists/list-en1.html)
  eg. LAO PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC, LIBYAN ARAB JAMAHIRIYA for
 those countries normally called Laos and Libya.
Yeah, they are incredibly ugly, aren't they.

Heck; grab a National Geographic Society atlas and see what the political
names used on the map are.  Then use those.  It's a better standard, at
least for countries which actually exist (doesn't the UN still recognize
some which don't?)

Of course, you could always use the official long names for everyone, thus
abusing nearly everyone with stupid names.  ;-)  The benefit of the short
names is always lost when some of them are stupidly long.

 However, sometimes
 the short version is the problem too: eg. do we allow
 MACEDONIA, THE FORMER YUGOSLAV REPUBLIC OF, to be shortened to
 Macedonia? I'm sure the Greeks won't agree to that ...
Well, it's only particularly crazy Greek governments which care; most Greeks
accept that Macedonia (the country) is *not* making territorial claims on
Greece Macedonia, and there are lots of other situations in the world where
a country has the same name as a province in a neighboring country.

So I wouldn't worry, as long as this is a list of *countries*, anyway, since
there's no other *country* called Macedonia (given that Greece admits that
Greek Macedonia is part of Greece).  It's not like the situation with the
Congo, where there actually are two countries with the same standard name,
or the similar situation which used to be true of Yemen, or further back
Cameroon, etc.

 After all, isn't Linux for a large part about being free as in able to
 choose for yourselves which is what Taiwan has been trying to to for the
 past decades.
 
 Ironically, one of the main reasons I created the iso-codes package is
 to allow this; if someone wanted to create Kurdish Linux and add
 Kurdistan as a territory, then they would only have 1 list to override
 or correct on Linux, rather than n separate lists of countries and
 translations ...
 (But I don't want to fork Debian over this issue :-( )
 
 
 I think the really short names are often a lot more politically neutral
 than the semi-official names in iso-3166.
 
 The countries in question have used the list to make their own political
 points; but the problem is that Debian deciding to change some names and
 not others is no longer being neutral.

Well, maybe it would be better to go with a different, less political, more
neutral list, like the names used on the National Geographic Society maps,
for instance.  :-O  Going with the names used on maps would also guarantee
the selection of genuinely short names, since mapmakers have physical
problems putting overly-long names on their maps, and so won't do it.

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Re: Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country?

2004-04-04 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Herbert Xu wrote:

 Carlos Z.F. Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 05:48:43PM -0800, Anthony Johnson wrote:
 No, some of you did, but more don't(especially people
 in China mainland), AFAIK.
 As a chinese, I think most people in mainland won't mind using Taiwan
 here. Even in many governmental newspapers, they also use Taiwan
 directly sometimes.
 
 In the context of choosing the name of a country, you'll find that most
 of the mainland popluation are willing to go to war on this.
China (mainland)
China (Taiwan)

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Re: Re: Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country?

2004-04-04 Thread Anthony Johnson

--- Carlos Z.F. Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, you should kick CCTV and communist party's ass,
 before you speak
 here. IIRC, They alway said Chen Shui-Bian as
You should go back to China mainland and ask for
people there. IIRC, you are NOT located in China
mainland, right?

BTW: Do not compare windoze xp with Debian, windoze
won't let people like you complain on an open
development mailing list again and again.

 Taiwan's leader, not
 Taiwan province's leader. They said that Taiwan is
 a part of China,
 but never use Taiwan province is a part of China.
 
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Re: Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country?

2004-04-04 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Herbert Xu wrote:

 Carlos Z.F. Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 05:48:43PM -0800, Anthony Johnson wrote:
 No, some of you did, but more don't(especially people
 in China mainland), AFAIK.
 As a chinese, I think most people in mainland won't mind using Taiwan
 here. Even in many governmental newspapers, they also use Taiwan
 directly sometimes.
 
 In the context of choosing the name of a country, you'll find that most
 of the mainland popluation are willing to go to war on this.

Large portions of the Taiwanese population are stringently against it *as
well*, including the official position of the government.  Of course it's
not a country name.

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Bug#242021: back to main menu after reading net-drivers.floppy (2004-04-04, oldworld ppc, netinstall with floppies)

2004-04-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

Am Sonntag, 4. April 2004 14:31 schrieben Sie:
 On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 01:36:20PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
  The 2004-04-04 installation is still ongoing, with 2004-04-03 I still had
  the bug #241228 (You are attempting to install an initrd kernel image
  (version 2.4.25-powerpc-small.  This will not work unless you have
  configured your boot loader to use initrd...) which I thought was fixed
  with
  base-installer_0.066_powerpc.changes ? I'll add info to bug#241228 if
  2004-04-04 also shows this bug.

 Are you using testing or unstable ?

Testing. Is this why I just got that bug again with 2004-04-04 ? I thought 
debian-installer (and therefore) would only exists as unstable/daily-built at 
the moment...

Looking at packages.debian.org/base-installer and 
http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=base-installer
I get the conclusion that debian-installer is also divided in testing and 
unstable, but with only a 2-day queue, right ? But base-installer 0.66 won't 
go into testing since it has a release critical bug or is this rule not 
applied to debian-installer at the moment ?

Will install unstable later, have to go offline now ;-)


regards,
Holger

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Alpha netboot issue

2004-04-04 Thread Matthew Garrett
The Alpha netboot images currently seem to consist of a kernel and a
ramdisk. We don't currently ship an aboot that supports netbooting with
initrds (#127303) which means the kernel ought to be built with an
integrated initrd -
http://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/2002/debian-alpha-200202/msg00036.html 
gives instructions on this.

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Bug#241773: Is an issue with USB network devices as well

2004-04-04 Thread Moses Lei
retitle 241773 Awkward to use network cards with hotplug logical interface (CardBus, 
USB)
thanks

Since USB network devices are also managed via hotplug, this is an issue
with them as well. Is there any reliable way to detect whether something is
a hotplug device, and have *that* be what determines whether it has a
hotplug mapping in /etc/network/interfaces or not?

Or: correct me if I'm wrong, but since hotplug doesn't do anything for what
doesn't get plugged in, why not have the mapping in /etc/network/interfaces
by default for all interfaces? Ugly, admittedly, but it wouldn't hurt,
would it? Again, if this is not a solution, please LART me.

Moses


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Bug#242064: Kernel doesn't like my IDE chipset

2004-04-04 Thread Roland Mas
Package: installation-reports
 
INSTALL REPORT
 
Debian-installer-version: beta3
uname -a: 2.4.25-1-386 #1 Tue Feb 24 00:11:13 EST 2004 i686 unknown
Date: 2004-04-04
Method: Booted off the businesscard CD-ROM (IDE/hdc)
 
Machine: Custom-made
Processor: Duron 1600
Memory: 256 MB
Root Device: IDE (hda)
Root Size/partition table:  hda1 is 10 GB, but that's not very relevant
Output of lspci: 
,
| 00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 746 Host (rev 10)
| 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SG86C202
| 00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]: Unknown device 0963 (rev 25)
| 00:02.1 SMBus: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]: Unknown device 0016
| 00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE]
| 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Sound 
Controller (rev a0)
| 00:03.0 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 Controller (rev 0f)
| 00:03.1 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 Controller (rev 0f)
| 00:03.2 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 2.0 Controller
| 00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 10/100 Ethernet 
(rev 91)
| 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 
7000/VE]
`
 
Base System Installation Checklist:
 
Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [ ]
Config network: [ ]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:[ ]
Mount partitions:   [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
 
Comments/Problems:
 
When loading the ide-detect module, the kernel logs show that the hard
disk and CD-ROM drive are correctly detected, but then I get lots of
hda: lost interrupt (same with hdc).  From then on, no hard disk or
CD-ROM access manages to get through.  I tried not loading the sis5513
module, using the generic module instead, I also tried without even
the generic module, no better.  LKML tells me I should try and disable
DMA at boot time, but I haven't been able to guess how to do that (I
get the same results when using linux nodma ide=nodma hda=nodma
idebus=nodma and disabling DMA from the BIOS's setup).

The kernel on beta2 (2.4.21 or 2.4.22, I think) works better on this
particular box (well, at least until network enters the game -- the
on-board LAN chipset uses FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF as its MAC address, which
causes problems for data transmission and reception).

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Bug#242021: back to main menu after reading net-drivers.floppy (2004-04-04, oldworld ppc, netinstall with floppies)

2004-04-04 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 03:14:08PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Am Sonntag, 4. April 2004 14:31 schrieben Sie:
  On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 01:36:20PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
   The 2004-04-04 installation is still ongoing, with 2004-04-03 I still had
   the bug #241228 (You are attempting to install an initrd kernel image
   (version 2.4.25-powerpc-small.  This will not work unless you have
   configured your boot loader to use initrd...) which I thought was fixed
   with
   base-installer_0.066_powerpc.changes ? I'll add info to bug#241228 if
   2004-04-04 also shows this bug.
 
  Are you using testing or unstable ?
 
 Testing. Is this why I just got that bug again with 2004-04-04 ? I thought 
 debian-installer (and therefore) would only exists as unstable/daily-built at 
 the moment...

Well, since you do basically a full net install, the .udebs will be
taken from the net, and thus 0.066 probably has not made it to testing.
Maybe we should ask it to be fast tracked or something.

 Looking at packages.debian.org/base-installer and 
 http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=base-installer
 I get the conclusion that debian-installer is also divided in testing and 
 unstable, but with only a 2-day queue, right ? But base-installer 0.66 won't 
 go into testing since it has a release critical bug or is this rule not 
 applied to debian-installer at the moment ?

What RC bugs are those ? And i don't think it applies, since d-i stuff
is mostly fast tracked, or handled by hand.

 Will install unstable later, have to go offline now ;-)

Ok.

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Re: loop device install or how to skip partman ?

2004-04-04 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 01:28:10PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
 Bill Allombert wrote:
  Hello Debian-installer team,
  
  After testing beta 1 and beta 2, I tried beta 3, with the 
  same goal in mind: install Debian in a file using a loop
  device.
  
  As far as I could see, all beta detected the hardware of
  the box fine.
  
  beta 1 and 2 lacked the minimal support to create loop device,
  but the situation has improved : now there is a 'dd' utility and 'mount'
  support '-oloop' provide we issue modprobe loop before calling mount
  (which I found a bit confusing, it would be better if the module was
  autoloaded, but never mind). There is no 'losetup' but it is probably not
  neccessary.
 
 Sounds like you have all the pieces you need to write a partman-loop
 module that adds loopback support directly to partman.

Not really... Also my goal is to see whether d-i is able to handle 
oddball situations where the `classical' install scheme is not suitable.
In this regard, b-f was excellent, and d-i is steadily improving.

  Now, the problem is that I can't find any way to skip the 'partman'
  step of d-i. b-f conveniently detected that /target existed and 
  allow to go to 'install base system' directly.
 
 Just mount /target, edit /var/lib/dpkg/status to mark partman as already
 configured, and skip over it in the menu.

Thanks, it works. At this point I can install the base system but
now installing kernel-image-2.4.25-1-386 fail:
/usr/bin/mkinitrd: Cannot determine root device.
E: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned with an error codde (1)

Of course I need to use my custom initrd able to boot a loop device.

Well, I edited /var/lib/dpkg/status again to skip base-installer and I 
tried prebaseconfig which was not an huge success.
(tzconfig failed) and the tty was generally messed up so dselect is
unusable.

Probably a more convenient way to tell d-i to skip an installation step
could be useful.

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Re: Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country?

2004-04-04 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Nathanael Nerode wrote:

 So I wouldn't worry, as long as this is a list of *countries*, anyway,
 since there's no other *country* called Macedonia (given that Greece
Of course, as I said elsewhere, Taiwan can't be in a country list, so you
can't deal with both at once.  ;-)  Oh well.

 Well, maybe it would be better to go with a different, less political,
 more neutral list, like the names used on the National Geographic Society
 maps,
 for instance.  :-O  Going with the names used on maps would also guarantee
 the selection of genuinely short names, since mapmakers have physical
 problems putting overly-long names on their maps, and so won't do it.
 
But overall, I couldn't care less what names are used, so pay no attention
to me.

Though I have concluded that using countries for locale selection is not
really a good idea at all, in the long run; the only locale element that is
strictly country based is the currency, and sometimes not even that. 
Unfortunately I don't have a better alternative.  :-P

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Re: splitting root floppy by languages

2004-04-04 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Nathanael Nerode wrote:
 Hmm.  Indonesian (id) has its own alphabet.
Correction, no, brain-fade.

  So does Turkish (tr).
But not very many non-Latin letters in it.  :-)

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Re: Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country?

2004-04-04 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Christian Perrier wrote:

 -Alastair and I recently updated the list to the most recent official
 list of english and french names for countries, regions are areas of
 specific geopolitical interest...exact wording of ISO-3166 list

I love the phrase of specific geopolitical interest.  Yeech.  Allows them
to include or exclude things regardless of the formalities, which is
probably good.

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Re: Basque translation

2004-04-04 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Christian Perrier wrote:

 HuhCatalan, Castillan, Galician and now Basquegreat great
 great...

And you have Portuguese.  Yes, Iberia is well covered.

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Re: splitting root floppy by languages

2004-04-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 08:17:13AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
 You could go with the language familes.  These are mostly in ISO 639a,
 though that doesn't have bs (Bosnian), or nb and nn (Norwegian was still
 no).  They're also accurate as far as I know linguistically.  :-)

 ASIAN: ja, ko, zh_CN, zh_TW
 SEMITIC: ar, he
 SLAVIC: bg, bs, cs, pl, ru, sk, sl, uk

Slavic languages are split between Latin2 and Cyrillic for the character
sets, so this may not an optimal grouping.

 ROMANCE: ca, es, fr, gl, it, pt, pt_BR, ro

Romanian also uses Latin2, so is probably better grouped with the Latin
Slavic languages?

 GERMANIC: da, de, en, nl, nb, nn, sv 
 FINNO-UGRIC: fi, hu

And IIRC Finnish and Hungarian are both Latin1, so it probably doesn't
make sense to split just the two of them off into their own group.

 other families: cy, el, id, lt, sq, tr

Hmm, we have Albanian translations?  Not sure what charset that uses;
the others, though, each require code points not shared by any of the
others, yes.

 Asian root (4 languages + lots and lots of non-Latin characters)
 Semitic root (2 languages + BIDI + 2 non-Latin scripts)

This suggests that we may want *two* slang udebs, one with bidi support
and one without?  Is this worth the space savings of not having
libfribidi on the floppies?

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Re: splitting root floppy by languages

2004-04-04 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Steve Langasek wrote:

 Slavic languages are split between Latin2 and Cyrillic for the character
 sets, so this may not an optimal grouping.

Working out the character set groupings?  Great idea...  I really have
absolutely no idea which languages use which code points.  I was just
trying to come up with *some* rational division.

What do we get if we sort into:
* Asian
* Cyrillic
* Latin2
* Latin1
* other
?

I'm a bit worried that (for example) the Latin1 disk would end up with the
majority of languages if this is done, which probably wouldn't help with
the space issues that much.  :-P

snip
 Hmm, we have Albanian translations?
Apparently so.
 

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Re: splitting root floppy by languages

2004-04-04 Thread Joey Hess
Nathanael Nerode wrote:
 SEMITIC: ar, he
 SLAVIC: bg, bs, cs, pl, ru, sk, sl, uk
 ROMANCE: ca, es, fr, gl, it, pt, pt_BR, ro
 GERMANIC: da, de, en, nl, nb, nn, sv 
 FINNO-UGRIC: fi, hu
 other families: cy, el, id, lt, sq, tr

I don't feel that this is a very useful split, because you have to
assume that users may *not* be aware of these categories, and so you end
up having to list all the languages on each disk.

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Re: Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country?

2004-04-04 Thread Konstantinos Margaritis
On Sunday 04 April 2004 10:38, Alastair McKinstry wrote:
 Agreed the official short names are ugly ;
 (http://www.iso.org/iso/en/prods-services/iso3166ma/02iso-3166-code
-lists/list-en1.html) eg. LAO PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC,
 LIBYAN ARAB JAMAHIRIYA for those countries normally called Laos
 and Libya. However, sometimes the short version is the problem
 too: eg. do we allow
 MACEDONIA, THE FORMER YUGOSLAV REPUBLIC OF, to be shortened to
 Macedonia? I'm sure the Greeks won't agree to that ...

they certainly won't (and I'm not speaking about myself, I believe 
that this issue has been greatly mishandled by all sides anyway)...

Although I think Taiwan's is a different case...

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Re: Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country?

2004-04-04 Thread Konstantinos Margaritis
On Sunday 04 April 2004 16:06, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
 Well, it's only particularly crazy Greek governments which care;
 most Greeks accept that Macedonia (the country) is *not* making
 territorial claims on Greece Macedonia, and there are lots of other
 situations in the world where a country has the same name as a
 province in a neighboring country.

Although you are right in that most Greeks don't really care any more, 
unfortunately you represent a gross simplification of the issue. It's 
not just about territorial claims (that issue has been dropped 
thankfully). I sincerely do not want to enter such a debate here, it 
is totally OT and I want to respect the focus of the list. But still, 
I can hardly disagree with you about the fact that it's because of 
the mishandling of the Greek goverments that there actually *exists* 
such an issue.

 So I wouldn't worry, as long as this is a list of *countries*,
 anyway, since there's no other *country* called Macedonia (given
 that Greece admits that Greek Macedonia is part of Greece).  It's
 not like the situation with the Congo, where there actually are two
 countries with the same standard name, or the similar situation
 which used to be true of Yemen, or further back Cameroon, etc.

actually there was never doubt about the Greek part of Macedonia, not 
from the Greek side, that is :-)

Anyway, I would really like to drop the issue here, because I feel bad 
discussing it... not least because I fear that we have ourselves 
messed things up and now it's too late to fix them, and if we did it 
would be at the expense of another country (and a neighbouring 
country which it is in our interest and benefit to have good 
relations with).

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Re: Daily build broken for x86?

2004-04-04 Thread Joey Hess
Andrew Pollock wrote:
 I've just tried booting with 20040331 and 20040402, and both seem to get
 stuck in a loop early in the boot process, with something about being unable
 to load some usb{keyboard,mouse} etc modules, and something about Joey
 Hess's home directory getting spat out repeatedly.

cdebconf 0.58 was broken; this was fixed in version 0.59 on April 1st.

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Re: splitting root floppy by languages

2004-04-04 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Joey Hess wrote:

 I don't feel that this is a very useful split, because you have to
 assume that users may *not* be aware of these categories, and so you end
 up having to list all the languages on each disk.

Are there *any* categories you can assume that users will be aware of (and
understand the boundaries of)?  :-P  I guess I was assuming that you'd have
to list all the languages on each disk whatever you did.

For example, if you have an Asian languages root floppy and an Everything
else root floppy, won't you have to put Indonesian (id) on both in order
to deal with the fact that people will argue about whether it's Asian?...

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Re: splitting root floppy by languages

2004-04-04 Thread VEROK Istvan
 And IIRC Finnish and Hungarian are both Latin1

Not sure about Finnish but Hungarian is definitely Latin2.
(Latin2 means iso-8859-2, right?)
Latin1 doesn't have double-acute accented characters, which are
used frequently in Hungarian.

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[Fwd: Re: splitting root floppy by languages]

2004-04-04 Thread Eddy Petrisor
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 From: Eddy Petrisor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: splitting root floppy by languages
 Date: 04 Apr 2004 21:22:09 +0300
 
 On Sun, 2004-04-04 at 20:33, Steve Langasek wrote:
  ... 
   ROMANCE: ca, es, fr, gl, it, pt, pt_BR, ro
  
  Romanian also uses Latin2, so is probably better grouped with the Latin
  Slavic languages?
  
 
 Also, I would rather expect to find my country between latin countries
 
 Or, the splitting might be georaphical, but then Finnish and Hungarian
 woudn't be toghether...
 
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Re: PCMCIA network configuration

2004-04-04 Thread Per Olofsson
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 21:59 +0200, pelle wrote:
 Now that the hotplug init script is linked as S40hotplug, I don't see
 the big problem in reverting hotplug to the old behaviour of just
 doing ifup on the interface without the =hotplug.

I filed a bug report against hotplug and it has been closed now by a
new upload. The solution implemented was a low-priority debconf
question which asked whether to not use the logical hotplug interface,
and the default is false, i.e. use a logical interface. So what do we
do with this? Pre-seed the debconf value to true if PCMCIA hardware is
detected? I'm not particularly fond of this solution, but if we want
to have Cardbus network card support in d-i for sarge I'm not sure
what else to do.

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Re: PCMCIA network configuration

2004-04-04 Thread Joey Hess
Per Olofsson wrote:
 I filed a bug report against hotplug and it has been closed now by a
 new upload. The solution implemented was a low-priority debconf
 question which asked whether to not use the logical hotplug interface,
 and the default is false, i.e. use a logical interface. So what do we
 do with this? Pre-seed the debconf value to true if PCMCIA hardware is
 detected? I'm not particularly fond of this solution, but if we want
 to have Cardbus network card support in d-i for sarge I'm not sure
 what else to do.

If the installer has the change the default, then the default is wrong
and should be fixed IMHO. Anyway, we have no mechanism for preseeding
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Re: PCMCIA network configuration

2004-04-04 Thread Per Olofsson
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 15:39 -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
 If the installer has the change the default, then the default is wrong
 and should be fixed IMHO. Anyway, we have no mechanism for preseeding
 the database at that point.

Right. So I could either bug the hotplug maintainer to make this the
default, or I could hack netcfg to add that mapping stanza for PCMCIA
cards (the grep variant). Unless anybody else has any better ideas.

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Bug#242021: back to main menu after reading net-drivers.floppy (2004-04-04, oldworld ppc, netinstall with floppies)

2004-04-04 Thread Joey Hess
Holger Levsen wrote:
 Looking at packages.debian.org/base-installer and 
 http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=base-installer
 I get the conclusion that debian-installer is also divided in testing and 
 unstable, but with only a 2-day queue, right ? But base-installer 0.66 won't 
 go into testing since it has a release critical bug or is this rule not 
 applied to debian-installer at the moment ?

Björn's page is broken.

There is no automatic testing propigaton of udebs. Period. All
propigation happens when someone tells me a good reason to put a udeb
into testing, or when they are all copied from unstable as part of a
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[l10n]; change to console-data po files

2004-04-04 Thread Alastair McKinstry
Hi,

I have made one addition to the console-data keymaps, which results in a
string addition:

msgid trfu

This is 'translated' in English as 
msgstr Turkish (F layout).

Can translators please check out their translations and unfuzzy the
translation, or if they wish, just send me the translation to commit?

Regards,
Alastair

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Bug#242115: sarge installer beta 3

2004-04-04 Thread hugh
Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: Iso installer downloaded on 2004-04-04 from 
http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/sarge_d-i/i386/beta3/sarge-i386-netinst.iso

uname -a: Linux (none) 2.4.25-1-386 #1 Tue Feb 24 08:11:13 EST 2004 i686
unknown

Date: 2004-04-04 15:00 EDT

Method: I attempted install from sarge debian installer beta 3 cd.  I
booted from the CD but was unable to complete the install.



Machine: Dell Inspiron 8100 (Dell BIOS A15)
Processor:  model name  : Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Mobile CPU  1000MHz
Memory: 512MB
Root Device: Intended root device /dev/hda
Root Size/partition table: Debian install intended to replace redhat 9.


Disk /dev/hda: 30.0 GB, 30005821440 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 3648 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

   Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   * 1   637   5116671b  Win95 FAT32   /winxp
/dev/hda2   638  1593   7679070   83  Linux /
/dev/hda3  1594  1724   1052257+  82  Linux swap
/dev/hda4  1725  3648  154545305  Extended
/dev/hda5  1725  2515   6353676   83  Linux /unused
/dev/hda6  2516  3063   4401778+  83  Linux /unused
/dev/hda7  3064  3648   4698981   83  Linux /unused


Output of lspci:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory
Controller Hub (rev 04)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82815 815 Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 04)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BAM/CAM PCI Bridge (rev 03)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 03)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801BAM IDE U100 (rev 03)
00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 03)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 Go]
(rev b2)
02:03.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1983S Maestro-3i PCI
Audio Accelerator (rev 10)
02:06.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c556 Hurricane CardBus (rev
10)
02:06.1 Communication controller: 3Com Corporation Mini PCI 56k Winmodem
(rev 10)
02:0f.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI4451 PC card Cardbus Controller
02:0f.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI4451 PC card Cardbus Controller
02:0f.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments PCI4451 IEEE-1394 Controller




Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[0]
Configure network HW:   [ ]
Config network: [ ]
Detect CD:  [0]
Load installer modules: [E]
Detect hard drives: [ ]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:[ ]
Mount partitions:   [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

On the first attempt, the progress bar was at 95% with the message
Skipping unavailable module 'ide-floppy' for 'Linux IDE floppy' when the
system locked up.  I then rebooted, entering linux noapic at the boot
prompt with the same results.  I then booted with linux DEBCONF_DEBUG=5
and switched to the output on Alt-F4.  The last two lines were:

user.debug frontend: -- SUBST hw-detect/load_progress_step MODULE
ide-probe-mod
user.debug frontend: Adding [MODULE] -[ide-probe-mod]

The last line on the output on Alt-F3 was

insmod 3c59x


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main-menu_0.063_i386.changes ACCEPTED

2004-04-04 Thread Debian Installer

Accepted:
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ddetect_0.83_i386.changes ACCEPTED

2004-04-04 Thread Debian Installer

Accepted:
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  to pool/main/d/ddetect/ddetect_0.83.dsc
ddetect_0.83.tar.gz
  to pool/main/d/ddetect/ddetect_0.83.tar.gz
ethdetect_0.83_all.udeb
  to pool/main/d/ddetect/ethdetect_0.83_all.udeb
hw-detect-full_0.83_all.udeb
  to pool/main/d/ddetect/hw-detect-full_0.83_all.udeb
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cdrom-detect_0.53_i386.changes ACCEPTED

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Accepted:
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  to pool/main/c/cdrom-detect/cdrom-detect_0.53.dsc
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  to pool/main/c/cdrom-detect/cdrom-detect_0.53.tar.gz
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ddetect override disparity

2004-04-04 Thread Debian Installer
There are disparities between your recently accepted upload and the
override file for the following file(s):

hw-detect-full_0.83_all.udeb: package says priority is optional, override says 
standard.
hw-detect_0.83_all.udeb: package says priority is optional, override says standard.

Either the package or the override file is incorrect.  If you think
the override is correct and the package wrong please fix the package
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debian-installer-utils_0.51_i386.changes ACCEPTED

2004-04-04 Thread Debian Installer

Accepted:
debian-installer-utils_0.51.dsc
  to pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/debian-installer-utils_0.51.dsc
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  to pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/debian-installer-utils_0.51.tar.gz
di-utils-bootfloppy_0.51_i386.udeb
  to pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/di-utils-bootfloppy_0.51_i386.udeb
di-utils-exit-installer_0.51_all.udeb
  to pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/di-utils-exit-installer_0.51_all.udeb
di-utils-mapdevfs_0.51_i386.udeb
  to pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/di-utils-mapdevfs_0.51_i386.udeb
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  to pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/di-utils-reboot_0.51_all.udeb
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  to pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/di-utils-shell_0.51_i386.udeb
di-utils-terminfo_0.51_all.udeb
  to pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/di-utils-terminfo_0.51_all.udeb
di-utils_0.51_all.udeb
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Bug#213015: marked as done (main-menu: When udebs segfault, main-menu should display some error message)

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Package: main-menu
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Currently when a menu item segfaults, it might not be able to
display a message. main-menu should tell the user that the
subsidiary item did not succeed.

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Source: main-menu
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We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
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Bug#218597: marked as done (should display a notice when changing the debconf priority level)

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Package: main-menu
Severity: wishlist
Tags: d-i

Several times I have seen confusing behavior when main-menu lowers or
raises the debconf priority level. While in general the automatic
priority changing works, I think it needs a notice to make clear what's
going on.

For example, I was doing an install at priotiry high and not paying much
attention to the first part of it, and something died. I was dropped
into main-menu with partconf as the selected menu item. What wasn't
clear is what had went wrong (turns out partconf was exiting with code
30).

It can also be confusing when things start to go right again, and
main-menu whisks you away to high priority land.

I think it should display an error when something fails and it lowers
the priority, and should display a note before jumping to a higher
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Bug#229210: marked as done (Need an Abort installation menu entry)

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INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: businesscard beta2 i386
uname -a: 
Date: 2003/01/19
Method: Network, proxied

Machine: Dell Optiplex GX260
Processor: Pentium IV
Memory: 260Mb
Root Device: IDE
Root Size/partition table: Windows 2000 existing installation (initally with
   no room left for other partitions!)
Output of lspci: unneeded (no HW problems)

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

(french language selected)

The context of this installation is the following:

A Novice user (already installed Redhat/Mandrake, never installed Debian,
does not know the distribution) uses the beta-2 businesscard CD with a
confirmed and really highly skilled (ahem) Debian Developer (guess
who...:-)) sitting near her and helping to go through any problem.

No real dramatic problem was found during this installation. However,
I'm under the feeling that the installation wouldn't have gone
smoothly if I have not been here..:-)

The user also ended up with a badly configured X server and a console using
a US keyboard layout. Not exactly hype when compared to other distros..:-)

Network configuration: 

 - The DHCP before, then static option may confuse a novice
   user. We probably need to have a clearer template when DHCP fails.
 - Host name asked twice when DHCP fails

General organisation:

There is no clear choice for *Aborting* installation. The user wanted
to abort during partconf because she found that no free space was
available for installing Debian (all was allocated to Windows). She
first tried Finish installation and rebootbut this started
partconf again as this part of the installation hadn't been achieved.

The Reboot the system choice may need rephrasing as this is often an
Abort option.

Partitionning:

partconf/cfdisk is a real PITA for beginners. We definitely need
anton's partman.

partconf strangely warns about an existing filesystem for a newly
created Linux partition where I'm sute no mkfs was ever done.

LILO installation:

No more Windows boot is possible. From a user point of 

Bug#240182: marked as done (After executing a shell, installer tries to resume automatic operation)

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Re: Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country?

2004-04-04 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Herbert Xu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

  And, It is a gross disparagement to Taiwan people.
  Thus some of us may refuse to use Debian anymore.
 
 Who cares? It'd be much better if you didn't use Debian at all.

I don't think that flaming Tetralet is a big progress in this
thread. Though we have some disagreement here, I know we owe him and
other fellow Traditional Chinese translators a huge good work.

He bringed the topic really politely and with good arguments and until
then discussed it peacefully.

Disagreements and disputes are part of this work. That one is a very
sensitive one, but I think people here are grown up enough for keeping
exchanging ideas instead of insults.

Thanks for cooling down the boiler..:-)



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Bug#212921: cdebconf: Merge in new translations in templates

2004-04-04 Thread Denis Barbier
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 12:31:21AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
[...]
  The current behaviour should certainly still be the default, so I
  added a --merge command-line flag to debconf-loadtemplate.
 
 I'm unable to come up with any sensible scenario where one want to
 keep the current behaviour.
 
 If the database contain foo and foo-ll, and then is loaed with
 identical foo and only foo-nl, I see no reason to throw away foo-ll.
 Do you?

The main reason is that I am conservative, and did not want to
have debconf and cdebconf provide different implementations of
debconf-loadtemplate.  But I agree that --merge should be the
default, and a --replace flag could switch to the old behaviour
if needed.

Denis


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Re: Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country?

2004-04-04 Thread Denis Barbier
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 08:51:25PM +0300, Konstantinos Margaritis wrote:
 On Sunday 04 April 2004 10:38, Alastair McKinstry wrote:
  Agreed the official short names are ugly ;
  (http://www.iso.org/iso/en/prods-services/iso3166ma/02iso-3166-code
 -lists/list-en1.html) eg. LAO PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC,
  LIBYAN ARAB JAMAHIRIYA for those countries normally called Laos
  and Libya. However, sometimes the short version is the problem
  too: eg. do we allow
  MACEDONIA, THE FORMER YUGOSLAV REPUBLIC OF, to be shortened to
  Macedonia? I'm sure the Greeks won't agree to that ...
 
 they certainly won't (and I'm not speaking about myself, I believe 
 that this issue has been greatly mishandled by all sides anyway)...

Please have a look at KDE (run kcontrol, select 'Regional  accessibility',
then 'Country/Region  Language'), they use real short names: Macedonia
and Taiwan in these particular cases.
Their list looks much smarter than the UN one.

This does not mean that iso-codes is useless, it may contain more
informations (like real short country/region names) and developers could
ddecide which list to use depending on their context.

Denis


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Bug#242021: back to main menu after reading net-drivers.floppy (2004-04-04, oldworld ppc, netinstall with floppies)

2004-04-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

   On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 01:36:20PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
The 2004-04-04 installation is still ongoing, with 2004-04-03 I still
had the bug #241228 (You are attempting to install an initrd kernel
image (version 2.4.25-powerpc-small.  This will not work unless you
have configured your boot loader to use initrd...) which I thought
was fixed with
base-installer_0.066_powerpc.changes ? I'll add info to bug#241228 if
2004-04-04 also shows this bug.

this bug is gone, but I've got a new one, this time installing unstable as of 
now.

german to english translation: can't install selected kernel, alt-f3 shows 
unmet dependencies: initscripts: depends fileutils =4.0l-8 and 
kernel-image-2.4.25-power-pmac: depnds kernel-modules-2.4.25-powerpc 
(=2.4.25-6)


 Well, since you do basically a full net install, the .udebs will be
 taken from the net, and thus 0.066 probably has not made it to testing.
 Maybe we should ask it to be fast tracked or something.

Since I know now that I rather should use unstable for tracking _those_ bugs 
it's okay for me. testing and unstable are useful for different things!

  Looking at packages.debian.org/base-installer and
  http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=base-installer
  I get the conclusion that debian-installer is also divided in testing
  and unstable, but with only a 2-day queue, right ? But base-installer
  0.66 won't go into testing since it has a release critical bug or is this
  rule not applied to debian-installer at the moment ?
 What RC bugs are those ? And i don't think it applies, since d-i stuff
 is mostly fast tracked, or handled by hand.

Yeah, as Joey said. Speaking of the RC bugs, look at Björns page, try the 
above URL.


regards,
Holger


  Will install unstable later, have to go offline now ;-)

 Ok.

 Friendly,

 Sven Luther




Bug#242007: countrychooser: Translate the list of country names

2004-04-04 Thread Christian Perrier
merge 242006 242007
thanks

Quoting Alastair McKinstry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Package: countrychooser
 Version: 0.013
 Severity: normal
 
 
 Please translate the short list of country names, as well as the full
 country names list. 

I also agree...though this will probably be hard coding work. The
translations are put in the package while it is built. The short list
is built on the fly, so getting its translations is a real challenge,
IMHO




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Bug#242021: back to main menu after reading net-drivers.floppy (2004-04-04, oldworld ppc, netinstall with floppies)

2004-04-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

 Björn's page is broken.

 There is no automatic testing propigaton of udebs. Period. All
 propigation happens when someone tells me a good reason to put a udeb
 into testing, or when they are all copied from unstable as part of a
 release.

Björn, I like the service and insight your pages offer very much. but, could 
you please fix your page, e.g. add a disclaimer ;-) and explain that 
there are some packages which are treated differently than others regarding 
moving from testing to unstable ?

Joey, and everybody else, please keep on the good work.


thank you,
Holger 




Bug#242007: countrychooser: Translate the list of country names

2004-04-04 Thread Christian Perrier
merge 242006 242007
thanks

2nd try..:-)




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bugreporter-udeb_0.21_i386.changes ACCEPTED

2004-04-04 Thread Debian Installer

Accepted:
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Two new languages in d-i : Basque and Gallegan

2004-04-04 Thread Christian Perrier
Basque (eu) and Gallegan (gl, sometimes called Galician) are now the
37th and 38th supported languages in Debian Installer.

(including English)

According to a quick calculation I made, we support half of the
world population

...but still lack any language from India or any African
countrystill work to do!


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Processed: Re: Bug#242007: countrychooser: Translate the list of country names

2004-04-04 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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 merge 242006 242007
Bug#242006: countrychooser: Country names remain in english in the screen immediately 
after languagechooser
Bug#242007: countrychooser: Translate the list of country names
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Bug#241984: One further bit of information

2004-04-04 Thread Joe Drew
When I did successfully enter my WEP key, and after I was able to get
into my machine (by booting single-user), I noticed that
/etc/network/interfaces had my WEP key in it, but it wasn't followed by
a newline (and so the file didn't end with a newline).

I don't know if this is a problem for the parser, but it was
disconcerting.
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Bug#242125: D-I beta3 installed on custom Abit KV7 mobo with Athlon XP 2600+

2004-04-04 Thread James Damour
Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: beta3 
http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/sarge_d-i/i386/beta3/sarge-i386-netinst.iso
uname -a: Linux hovel 2.4.25-1-386 #1 Tue Feb 24 08:11:13 EST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux
Date: Apr  2 15:28
Method: Burned ISO to CD, booted from CD, netinstall from 
http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ 

Machine: Home assembled from parts purchased at www.newegg.com.
Motherboard: Abit VIA KT600KV7
Video Card: ATI Radeon 9200 128 Mb
Processor: AMD Athlon XP (Barton core) 2600+
Memory: Corsair 512 Mb PC2700 DDR DRAM CMX512-2700LLPT
Root Device: Seagate 120 Gb 7200 Hz IDE drive  Barracuda ST3120026A
Root Size/partition table: Everything is on the sole HDD
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda5 28308732   3090444  25218288  11% /
tmpfs   257668 0257668   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda1   112883  9237 97624   9% /boot
Output of lspci:
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8377 [KT400 AGP] Host Bridge (rev 80)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI Bridge
00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3149 (rev 80)
00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT8233/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 81)
00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 81)
00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 81)
00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 81)
00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86)
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3227
00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235 AC97 Audio 
Controller (rev 60)
00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 78)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV280 [Radeon 9200] 
(rev 01)
01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5941 (rev 01)

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[E]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:
The on-board sound system (part of the VIA VT8237 South Bridge) was
not detected by the installation, which I believe is an error on the
base system installation.  If it is considered a second-stage error,
then I humbly apologize.  There's a bunch of entries in Google, and
I know to look at the ALSA project website for via82xx cards,
http://alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?module=via82xx,
and I know that sound on Linux is always a little iffy, so I don't
consider this an important error at all.  I *did* want to register
the problem, however, in case (someday) someone makes a concerted
effort to clean up all problems with sound detection in D-I.

I posted to the D-I wiki, volunteering to update the page where a
password is entered to display a splat ('*') for every character
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why must Debian call Taiwan a Province of China?

2004-04-04 Thread Dan Jacobson
Why why must Debian call Taiwan a Province of China?
Why can't it just stick with a neutral Taiwan.
Why single out a geographical name and append a political statement to it?
Sticks out and looks kind of silly.
Who cares what the two governments' official names for Taiwan are.
Why thrust Debian into politics, where there was no big problem
before?  Anything more neutral than just Taiwan?  I'm all ears.
Oh great, poison energetic free software enthusiasts with politics.
How am I going to explain to folks here in Taiwan that that is just a
superficial or temporary part of Debian, or doesn't represent the view
of all of Debian?
Oh great, just after we moved everybody over from Redhat because of
the flag issue.

Anyway, my buddy Andrew Lee sent me this for me to proofread, but
instead I felt I'll just post it more widely for him, (naturally
before researching the issue further :-))

Hi Dan,

I don't know have you heard about the Debian-installer use China replace
Taiwan for the menu of language chooser, I felt it's such a Discrimination
Against us. Here I want to speak up on the Debian list, before I speak up,
I hope you can readjust my point of view to be more fairly to both side.

Thanks in advance.

Here is the mail:
Hi Herbert Xu,

I read your message from:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/debian-boot-200404/msg00342.html

Please do not say it'd be much better if you didn't use Debian at all to
anybody. Debian is a free software and it is likely everyone can use it
with freedom. It would be in doubt if Debian is not allowed to be use at
all. As we all in the group of Debian developer and understand how it was
been use for all this days.

Debian is free for everyone, and it should be No Discrimination Against
Persons or Groups. I respect you are a Debian developer, but I am wishing
you have same equally respect to other Debian users, contributers and
developers.

However, there is no rules against us to continue us using Debian software
for such uncertain law.

I heard of that Debian-installer choose a list of ISO-3166 codes for list
contry names during installation, I felt the decision are quite wrong,
even you guys calling it's most official and don't want to face to the
truth, the truth are always still only one there.

My dad and my mum are both migrate from mainland China a half century ago,
and I was born in Taiwan, and I am living in Taiwan, my country is
officially naming Republic of China however it was and however it will,
I can not change it myself how could you a foreigner do?

[ Taiwan Linux Users Group ]
Andrew Leehttp://wiki.debian.org.tw
Winkler Partners  http://www.winklerpartners.com
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More from me, Dan Jacobson: next thing you know, we'll need a
non-China in addition to non-US.  I'm big on standards:
http://jidanni.org/lang/pinyin/ , but what if Debian appended
statements to each land like that?  What, will Debian lose some
contracts?

Maybe there could be a political-correctness package that could adjust
Debian for use in each country as needed. But apparently they are
talking about names one sees before even installing.


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Bug#242128: Alpha netboot install report

2004-04-04 Thread Matthew Garrett
Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: 4th April from 
http://people.debian.org/~vorlon/d-i/images/daily/netboot/
Date: 4th April
Method: Netboot and network install

Machine: Alphastation 500/233
Processor: EV5 233MHz
Memory: 96MB
Root Device: SCSI, qlogicisp

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[E]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [ ]
Load installer modules: [E]
Detect hard drives: [E]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [E]
Install base system:[ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

The netboot images on the daily build don't work - we don't ship a
bootloader that can netboot separate images (and, as far as I can tell,
we don't actually ship a bootloader that can netboot at all...). It's
impossible to cross-compile netbooting alpha kernels on a 32-bit system
due to breakage in the objstrip utility, and even on an alpha they 
currently don't seem to build (undefined references to printk in some of 
the lib files - I think the build system assumes that it can use the 
kernel lib.a without all of the kernel, which fails in this case). 
Hacking around that I generated a kernel and libc, and could then 
netboot this with (remembered, so possibly slightly wrong) 

boot -fl root=/dev/rd/0 ramdisk_size=16384 init=/linuxrc devfs=mount,da 
console=ttyS0,9600 rw ewa0

which then launched the installer. Everything then went fine up to
mirror selection - the.earth.li was offered as a mirror despite not
carrying anything other than i386+source, and so failed. Once that was
rectified, the install continued until partitioning. Here I was given a
confusing message telling me I could automatically or manually partition
a disk, but was only given the opportunity to manually edit it. Choosing
this gave me the same menu. After dropping to a shell, I found that this
was because the qlogicisp driver was not available, but is required for
this hardware. I retrieved this from the kernel package manually and
inserted it, at which point partitioning worked fine. The installer then
failed to mount / - I believe that this was because the ext3 module
failed to insmod (probably due to me compiling the kernel with a
slightly different version of gcc to the one used to build the modules. 
I used the modules from the mirror with my own kernel, which was an
invitation for breakage). At this point I gave up due to time
constraints - any other problems would be likely to be alpha-wide rather
than netboot specific anyway.

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churchill

2004-04-04 Thread xbypralvt
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Govenment don't want me to sell
UndergroundCD !Check Your spouse and staff
Investigate Your Own CREDIT-HISTORY
hacking someone PC!
Disappear in your city
bannedcd2004

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cuff,was very seldom.


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