Bug#242502: marked as done (net-drivers floppy is empty)

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The net-drivers floppy contains only disk.lbl and udeb_include.

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This has been fixed in svn and in my daily builds.

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Re: Location list proposal [was: why must Debian call Taiwan a Province of China?]

2004-04-08 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 Please, we should be moving away from including countries at all on the
 language chooser screen.  I think the current mix of languages and
 languages+countries on the first screen is very distracting already, and
 wastes space in the menu.

Well, reducing the languagechooser screen was one of the ideas behind
countrychooser if you remember.

However, after several discussions, the current compromise was made with some
double choices :

-English (USA)
-English (Great-Britain)
-English (other countries)
.../...

This allows people with the most often used countries to choose
their country in one keystroke, while others still have the choice of
getting the locale they may want to have.

For details about how this works, readers of this thread can go back
in -boot archives for January of February 2004.

There alredy, the Chinese language needed a special treatment because
of the way the two written forms are coded : zh-CN and zh_TW.which
uses a country information for indicating the differences between the
two written form of the language.

So, I think that languagechooser will stay with this quite long list
and some multi-country languages like English, Spanish, French,
German having a special treatment, adding up to 4 entries to the list
(there shouldn't be more than 4 entries--3 major countries and an
other entry).

This is not ideal, but this may allow us solving the TW issue at least
partially.

I wait for the input of taiwanese people about this proposal.





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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a Province of China?

2004-04-08 Thread Christian Perrier
(as Joey Hess already asked several times, please stop crossposting
this thread)

Quoting Julian Mehnle ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 But that's the point!  The name is objectionable from a technical
 perspective: it's unnecessarily long and bulky.  We are not writing
 Germany (Federal Republic of), so why write Taiwan (Province of
 China)?  Just because some piece of paper says it?

Because a *standard* says it. When it comes to technical things, no
one ever thinks about deriving the standards because (s)he doesn't
like them. You'd better try to change the standard and I know this is
what most Debian Developers will try to do.and, meanwhile, they
will apply it, just for keeping what we always claim to be one of Free
Software strengths : commitment to standards.

Germany is not called Germany, Federal Republic of because ISO did
not choose this for the *short* name of the country, in agreement with
the German representative at ISO, which is the German National
Standards Organisation.

ISO-3166-1, which is the one we use, is a list of *short*
names. ISO-3166-2 is a list of long, official country names. 

However, some countries have explicitely asked ISO to use some kind of
longer name for their entry, even in the short list.

This is why you have Lybian, Arab Jimahiriya, Tanzania, Republic
of and so on in the ISO-3166 list. And this is why the iso-codes
package has the same.We are NOT in position to decide whether this
is Good or Bad. This is just like that.

So, there is NO ISSUE for all these countries.

There is an issue for TW. Because it is obvious that the Taiwan
country DID NOT choose themselves the name which is currently in
ISO-3166 list. This is maybe also an issue for MK, by the way.

Solutions have been proposed and will be implemented for avoiding this
while keeping the reference list compliant with the standard (until
the standard is changed, which is The Way to go).

Please refer to recent posts to -boot for that.



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Re: [i18n] String Changes in iso-codes

2004-04-08 Thread Christian Perrier
(just keeping you and Anthony in CCand I'm not sure that's needed
as we all seem to read -boot)

Quoting Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 Assuming we fix the problems regarding the translation of
 languagechooser's short list, would it be possible to provide selective
 English translations of the iso-codes table?  This would let us fix the
 expansion of TW without having to abandon the use of the (very handy)
 iso 3166 table.

Well, no that would not be solve the issue unless we find a way to
translate the short list shown by countrychooser.

For everyone's information:

After choosing some languages in languagechooser, users are presented
with a second screen. This screen shows all countries for with a
SUPPORTED locale exists for this given language.

For instance, when choosing Espanol (otros paises), you're propmted
with a list a all countries for which a es_XX valid locale exists.

This list is built on the fly by countrychooser postinst
script. Currently, no way to use translations at all exists.

So, the trick you propose, by having a en.po file for iso_3166,
wouldn't work.

As I already wrote, translation this built on-the-fly list is far
from being trivial but probably can be done by a good programmer.

The translation of country names *are* there, in the
/var/lib/dpkg/info/coutrychooser.templates. The trick is getting them
one by one and building the short list with them.

Interesting challenge, indeed.

Having this countrychooser short list translated would then allow the
zh_TW translator to use whatever translation he wants for the TW
entry. 

This may be done, but we just need someone to do it..:-)

The languagechooser trick I propose elsewhere in this crazy thread may
also help solving this. I will answer there as you raised
objections..:-)



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Re: Debian-installer, older hardware, boot loaders, miboot amiboot ..

2004-04-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 01:06:05AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
 
 I just had an interesting conversation with an Apple developer 
 (Apple employee) regarding the legal status of the boot sector for 
 oldworld Macs.
 
 He pointed out that Darwin runs (and boots) on (at least) the beige 
 G3, and that's oldworld.  I don't know anything about Darwin except 
 that it's from Apple, it runs on PowerMacs, and it's open source, 
 but he (and now I) wondered if the open source boot code for Darwin 
 would do what we're looking for.

Seems interesting, i will followup on this.

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Re: Debian-installer, older hardware, boot loaders, miboot amiboot ..

2004-04-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 08:15:41PM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
 On Mar 30, 2004, at 01:20, Sven Luther wrote:
 
 I have a fear suspision that this may be more related to newworld, than
 the oldworld stuff needed for miboot, which may probably be varying
 between the different models we may need to support.
 
 gasp That's the boot block people are arguing about? That is 
 definitely valid for oldworld; it was written before 1994. (The web 
 site says '96, but I have a copy on my Inside Mac CD from 1994.)
 
 With Generally, however, the boot code stored on disk is ignored in 
 favor of boot code stored in a resource in the System file. do you 
 even need those bytes after it?

No idea, but i don't have access to hardware to test.

That said, since miboot is replacing this System file, it only displaces
the problem, i believe.

And for the other mail :

Well, if it was only that, binutils-multiarch should work out just fine,
no ?

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Re: [USABILITY] Usability test of Debian Installer beta 3

2004-04-08 Thread Joey Hess
Frans Pop wrote:
  I rather like this becase it also deals with the case where downloading
  installer components fails because of a transient network problem. This
  will let the user choose to try downloading a component again. It could
  even let the user choose a new mirror.
 
 Ah, that would be very good because I've had installations fail at least once 
 because a local mirror was in the middle of updating and already had the new 
 Packages file, but not all the packages :-(
 (I still don't understand why they insist on synchronizing during daytime.)

Unfortunatly, it won't help with the longer download done by
debootstrap. But I'll have it done for anna by tomorrow sometime, just
working out the last bugs now.

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Re: Debian-installer, older hardware, boot loaders, miboot amiboot ..

2004-04-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 08:37:48AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 01:06:05AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
  
  I just had an interesting conversation with an Apple developer 
  (Apple employee) regarding the legal status of the boot sector for 
  oldworld Macs.
  
  He pointed out that Darwin runs (and boots) on (at least) the beige 
  G3, and that's oldworld.  I don't know anything about Darwin except 
  that it's from Apple, it runs on PowerMacs, and it's open source, 
  but he (and now I) wondered if the open source boot code for Darwin 
  would do what we're looking for.
 
 Seems interesting, i will followup on this.

Nope won't work. Darwin uses an openfirmware based boot loader (like
yaboot) which installs patches for those oldworld models it supports.
Will not work on non Darwin supported stuff though.

Friendly,

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Bug#242689: rebuilding the package loses translations of http/mirrors countries

2004-04-08 Thread Denis Barbier
On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 01:25:36AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
 Package: choose-mirror
 Severity: normal
 Version: 0.040
 Tags: d-i, l10n
 
 If I build this package from source, the mirror/http/countries does not
 get any localisations in its Choices field. The mirror/ftp/countries
 template, with a very similar set of strings, still gets all the
 translations. This is not due to fuzzy translations.

It is, http list has 2 new country codes (CO and MA) which are currently
only translated into Japanese, so all other translations are discarded.
I keep this bug open at the moment, something has to be done so that
it does not happen as soon as a mirror is added.

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Bug#242689: Bug background

2004-04-08 Thread Christian Perrier
The reported problem happens when the master list of mirrors has some
new countries added.

The new country codes are added to the Choices list and all
translators need updating their translations.

We need to change this.

The country names translations are to be taken from the iso-codes
package at build time in a similar way to current countrychooser build
system.

This has to be a two step process:

-build the code list
-with the help of iso-codes, build all PO files as following:
  - from the ISO code, get the english name
  - from the english name, get the translated name

-these PO files are then merged with normal PO files

This will save a lot of work to translators and this will, as a side
effect, solve the problem reported in this BR

I'm not sure I will have time for trying to do this...and if I do,
this will be messy..:-)

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Bug#242689: rebuilding the package loses translations of http/mirrors countries

2004-04-08 Thread Joey Hess
Denis Barbier wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 01:25:36AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
  Package: choose-mirror
  Severity: normal
  Version: 0.040
  Tags: d-i, l10n
  
  If I build this package from source, the mirror/http/countries does not
  get any localisations in its Choices field. The mirror/ftp/countries
  template, with a very similar set of strings, still gets all the
  translations. This is not due to fuzzy translations.
 
 It is, http list has 2 new country codes (CO and MA) which are currently
 only translated into Japanese, so all other translations are discarded.
 I keep this bug open at the moment, something has to be done so that
 it does not happen as soon as a mirror is added.

Ugh.

Well, we could make mirror updates manual, and add error checking. That
would unfortunalty mean we'd have to remmeber to do them though. Any
better ideas?

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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a Province of China?

2004-04-08 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 02:49:27PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
 Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I'm just a naïve gaijin[1], but I'm not sure you're right about that.
  Written zh_CN and zh_TW look very similar to Western eyes.  I've seen a
  comparison of the two in some Sun documentation, and they really just
  looked like the exact same glyphs in two different fonts.  Like look at
  English lettering in bold versus normal weight.  (Not *exactly* like
  that, but close).
 
 I'm not sure what this has to do with the original question, but the
 simplified chinese characters used in the PRC can look _very_ different
 from the traditional forms used in Taiwan (anyway, it's not accurate to
 say the difference is `close to bold-versus-normal').

Okay.  Perhaps the sample I looked at was not truly characteristic.

 [One easy way to see an example if you use emacs is to view the `hello'
 buffer (C-h h), and look at the section `Difference among chinese
 characters' (you need a lot of fonts installed to see them all of course).]

Ah, well, I'm a Vim user.  ;-)

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Bug#242689: rebuilding the package loses translations of http/mirrors countries

2004-04-08 Thread Matt Kraai
On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 03:18:13AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
 Denis Barbier wrote:
  On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 01:25:36AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
   Package: choose-mirror
   Severity: normal
   Version: 0.040
   Tags: d-i, l10n
   
   If I build this package from source, the mirror/http/countries does not
   get any localisations in its Choices field. The mirror/ftp/countries
   template, with a very similar set of strings, still gets all the
   translations. This is not due to fuzzy translations.
  
  It is, http list has 2 new country codes (CO and MA) which are currently
  only translated into Japanese, so all other translations are discarded.
  I keep this bug open at the moment, something has to be done so that
  it does not happen as soon as a mirror is added.
 
 Ugh.
 
 Well, we could make mirror updates manual, and add error checking. That
 would unfortunalty mean we'd have to remmeber to do them though. Any
 better ideas?

Would using the intltool-merge and po2debconf scripts from
countrychooser fix the problem?

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Re: [USABILITY] Usability test of Debian Installer beta 3

2004-04-08 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
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On 2004-04-08 01:01, Joey Hess wrote:
 step 17:  (countrychooser)
   The fact that hitting enter on a continent returns to the menu
   is something I have always disliked, but I have no particularly
   better idea.

how about:

North America   (cursor)- enter - North America (cursor)
Canada  Central America 
... Belize
United States   ...
Central America Panama
Belize  South America
Argentina
Panama  ...
South America   Chile
Argentina
...
Chile

i.e having enter on a continent expand/collapse the list of countries for 
that continent? Does the debconf interface allow this?
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Bug#242718: d-i: Can't finish installation after power outage

2004-04-08 Thread Jan-Benedict Glaw
Package: installation-reports
Severity: Normal

Hi!

These days, I tried to install a P2 based PC with the ~100 MB CDROM
image. Installation was okay mostly, but I ripped the power cord...

Powering up the box again, I was taken back to base-config (which is
okay) and asked for a working sources.list. sources.list *is* okay, but
base-config things it isn't, because apt-get or dpkg refuse to work,
which base-config interprets as a broken sources.list.

In my case, this wasn't the expected case: The error reported is that
I should re-run dpkg --configure -a manually, which I'd normally
simply do. But unfortunately, VCs aren't yet available, nor is there a
way to choose Execute a Shell somewhere...

Rebooting again, I tried to additionally supply rw init=/bin/sh to
grub's kernel parameters, but seems these were ignored. System booted up
as previously and I was asked to create a working sources.list ...

MfG, JBG

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Bug#242489: can't find a keymap

2004-04-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 07:32:39PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
 
 Package: kbd-chooser
 Severity: important
 Tags: d-i
 
 d-i initrds built from unstable have a non-working kbd-chooser. It fails
 after I choose PC-style from the first menu (medium priority). I see
 this in the logs: kbd-chooser: cannot open fle
 
 This image has compressed keymaps on it. Colin Watson also saw this
 problem on powerpc. It was working yesterday, IIRC.

I see this also, on both powerpc/pegasos, and on powerpc/ibook.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: d-i and netcat

2004-04-08 Thread Stephen R Marenka
On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 12:52:22AM +0200, Thiemo Seufer wrote:
 Stephen R Marenka wrote:
  I got curious about how much adding netcat to busybox on d-i would 
  cost us. If I did everything right, on i386 it doesn't cost anything (I
  don't know, two binaries the same size -- only one with nc, go figure).
  On m68k it costs an additional 1552 bytes.
  
  I'd sure like to have a netcat in d-i's busybox.
 
 For what do you intend to use it?

It'd be a handy way to get logs off my floppy-challenged boxes. I've
also needed to test the network, which is a bit challenging without even
ping. I was looking for some such tool and nc was the cheapest.

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debian-installer: sarge - netboot - sparc64 Problems

2004-04-08 Thread Gerald Leier
hi folks,

first of all i would like to say that the new installer really looks nice :)

i am trying to get sarge installed on sparc64 (e250,e450) via netboot.
i used this d-i image:

 http://people.debian.org/~jbailey/d-i/sparc/daily/sparc64/netboot/boot.img



the first thing i was missing was ping when trying to guess which nic interface
is connected to what subnet. no problem with one nic and the box under your
table. big problem with 9 nics, und just console connection :)

i had some problems with partitioning (didnt manage to get rid of some
faulty sundisklabels with parted and whatever runs on [partition disk].

its also really confusing to have the items [partition disk] and
[partition a harddrive] ;) fdisk is in my opinion The tool for fast,
destructive disklabel/partition deleting and creation.
i miss this one.

dd and /dev/zero helped me with the disklabel problem.

next step i thought. hey, its capable of lvm at install :) fine, lets do it.

unortunatly there seems to be everything but the lvm modules themselfes.
also i couldnt figure out under which menupoint aditional moduleloading is
available. i thought i could find it  at [download installer comp] or [load
installer comp]. but had no luck, just ppp and some other stuff.


thats it for now
 bye folks








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Bug#242338: Comments on manual in this bugreport

2004-04-08 Thread Frans Pop
The comments about the manual in this bugreport are being worked on.
Paragraph 7.4.4 has been moved; the other remark is in our TO DO list.

Thank you for reporting them.


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Bug#240575: installation-reports: Fails to boot on Alpha

2004-04-08 Thread Craig Small
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 09:52:21PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote:
 I've configured my CD ROM as a slave drive on the IDE bus, and it still
 boots the d-i CDs just fine.  Did any of the other ideas in my previous
 email pan out?

The one about changing CDROMs worked fine.
I first tried my Potato! CD-Rs because I know they work with that
computer because that's how I built it in the first place.

The got to aboot but then couldn't find the image.

I replaced the CDROM, d-i booted fine.  So as far as this particular
bug is concerned you can close it or do whatever is you want with it.

I'll have a chat to you on irc about the non-use of BSD disklabels.
I could only get to the partitioning part, but it is not really d-i's
fault.

 - Craig

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Debian Installer team seeking for translators : Serbian (sr), Croatian (hr), Hindi (hi), others

2004-04-08 Thread Christian Perrier
(reply set to -boot mailing list...feel free to forward this
everywhere you may think appropriateas long as you point people
back to [EMAIL PROTECTED])

We need YOU! :-)

The Debian Installer currently supports 38 languages including
English (26 100% translated in beta3 and 12 under work or completed
since beta3 release). See list at the end of this mail.

The list grew up partly because of some DD or other contributors
giving enough interest for their own language and partly because some
of us tried to find resources for doing translation work in some other
important languages.

Important here means that these languages have a wide population in
the worldor that they are used in places where Open Source
operating systems have a good development currently or in the
futureor that they're important enough for someone somewhere
caring for having the Debian installation system transalted to it.

In this mail subject, I mentioned a few languages which I'm pretty
sure at least some Debian developers or users are native speakers.

A lot other languages are a good target however. Let's give a list:

-Serbian
-Croatian
-Latvian
-Estonian
-Belarussian
-Moldavian
-Icelandic

(with these, we would cover whole Europe, I think)

-Hindi (or whatever people from India will feel most appropriate
besides English)

-Afrikaans (some contact by DPL and myself, but no news since then)
 or Xhosa

-Vietnamese
-Thai
-Farsi (often called Persian)


And this is no limitation, of course !

If you happen to have some skills in one of these languages and some
free time to share with the Debian community, feel free to contact
either myself privately, or the debian-boot mailing list.

You will receive all possible technical help so don't be afraid and
start with the following document:

http://svn.debian.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/d-i/trunk/installer/doc/translations.txt


Currently supported languages (Arabic and Hebrew need backend work on
BIDI support, though):

ar  Arabic
bg  Bulgarian
bs  Bosnian
ca  Catalan
cs  Czech
cy  Welsh
da  Danish
de  German
el  Greek
en  English
es  Spanish
eu  Basque
fi  Finnish
fr  French
gl  Gallegan
he  Hebrew
hu  Hungarian
id  Indonesian
it  Italian
ja  Japanese
ko  Korean
lt  Lithuanian
nb  Norwegian Bokmal
nl  Dutch
nn  Norwegian Nynorsk
pl  Polish
pt  Portuguese
pt_BR   Portuguese (brazil)
ro  Romanian
ru  Russian
sk  Slovakian
sl  Slovenian
sq  Albanese
sv  Swedish
tr  Turkish
uk  Ukrainian
zh_CN   Chinese (Simplified)
zh_TW   Chinese (Traditional)

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Re: Debian Installer team seeking for translators : Serbian (sr), Croatian (hr), Hindi (hi), others

2004-04-08 Thread Eddy Petrisor
Christian Perrier wrote:

(reply set to -boot mailing list...feel free to forward this
everywhere you may think appropriateas long as you point people
back to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
We need YOU! :-)

The Debian Installer currently supports 38 languages including
English (26 100% translated in beta3 and 12 under work or completed
since beta3 release). See list at the end of this mail.
The list grew up partly because of some DD or other contributors
giving enough interest for their own language and partly because some
of us tried to find resources for doing translation work in some other
important languages.
Important here means that these languages have a wide population in
the worldor that they are used in places where Open Source
operating systems have a good development currently or in the
futureor that they're important enough for someone somewhere
caring for having the Debian installation system transalted to it.
In this mail subject, I mentioned a few languages which I'm pretty
sure at least some Debian developers or users are native speakers.
A lot other languages are a good target however. Let's give a list:

-Serbian
-Croatian
-Latvian
-Estonian
-Belarussian
-Moldavian
 

Moldavian can be included by Romanian as their official language is in 
fact Romanian (with maybe a few little modifications here and there), 
but Romanian is 100% understandable for a Moldavian (well, except 
regionalisms - some kind of dialect, but on a smaller scale)

-Icelandic
 

[...]

ja	Japanese
ko	Korean
lt	Lithuanian
 

add here md   Moladavian and make some scripts to copy the ro.po files 
to md.po files. ;-)

nb	Norwegian Bokmal
 

[...]

nl	Dutch
nn	Norwegian Nynorsk
 



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Re: Debian Installer team seeking for translators : Serbian (sr), Croatian (hr), Hindi (hi), others

2004-04-08 Thread Eddy Petrisor
Christian Perrier wrote:

(reply set to -boot mailing list...feel free to forward this
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We need YOU! :-)

 

Christian, this counts as 200% for Romanian ?! :-)

Eddy



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Bug#237603: discover 2.0 does not have this problem

2004-04-08 Thread Carlos Perelló Marín
Since my upgrade to discover 2.0 my computer does not hang anymore.

cheers.

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Re: d-i and netcat

2004-04-08 Thread Joey Hess
Stephen R Marenka wrote:
 It'd be a handy way to get logs off my floppy-challenged boxes. I've
 also needed to test the network, which is a bit challenging without even
 ping. I was looking for some such tool and nc was the cheapest.

I use wget for network testing, but I would also like a way to get logs
off and maybe an option in bugreporter-udeb to send them over the
network.

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Re: Debian Installer team seeking for translators : Serbian (sr), Croatian (hr), Hindi (hi), others

2004-04-08 Thread George Roman

do you need romanian olso?


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On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Christian Perrier wrote:

 (reply set to -boot mailing list...feel free to forward this
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 We need YOU! :-)

 The Debian Installer currently supports 38 languages including
 English (26 100% translated in beta3 and 12 under work or completed
 since beta3 release). See list at the end of this mail.

 The list grew up partly because of some DD or other contributors
 giving enough interest for their own language and partly because some
 of us tried to find resources for doing translation work in some other
 important languages.

 Important here means that these languages have a wide population in
 the worldor that they are used in places where Open Source
 operating systems have a good development currently or in the
 futureor that they're important enough for someone somewhere
 caring for having the Debian installation system transalted to it.

 In this mail subject, I mentioned a few languages which I'm pretty
 sure at least some Debian developers or users are native speakers.

 A lot other languages are a good target however. Let's give a list:

 -Serbian
 -Croatian
 -Latvian
 -Estonian
 -Belarussian
 -Moldavian
 -Icelandic

 (with these, we would cover whole Europe, I think)

 -Hindi (or whatever people from India will feel most appropriate
 besides English)

 -Afrikaans (some contact by DPL and myself, but no news since then)
  or Xhosa

 -Vietnamese
 -Thai
 -Farsi (often called Persian)


 And this is no limitation, of course !

 If you happen to have some skills in one of these languages and some
 free time to share with the Debian community, feel free to contact
 either myself privately, or the debian-boot mailing list.

 You will receive all possible technical help so don't be afraid and
 start with the following document:

 http://svn.debian.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/d-i/trunk/installer/doc/translations.txt


 Currently supported languages (Arabic and Hebrew need backend work on
 BIDI support, though):

 arArabic
 bgBulgarian
 bsBosnian
 caCatalan
 csCzech
 cyWelsh
 daDanish
 deGerman
 elGreek
 enEnglish
 esSpanish
 euBasque
 fiFinnish
 frFrench
 glGallegan
 heHebrew
 huHungarian
 idIndonesian
 itItalian
 jaJapanese
 koKorean
 ltLithuanian
 nbNorwegian Bokmal
 nlDutch
 nnNorwegian Nynorsk
 plPolish
 ptPortuguese
 pt_BR Portuguese (brazil)
 roRomanian
 ruRussian
 skSlovakian
 slSlovenian
 sqAlbanese
 svSwedish
 trTurkish
 ukUkrainian
 zh_CN Chinese (Simplified)
 zh_TW Chinese (Traditional)

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Bug#242767: 2 GB RAM not recognised

2004-04-08 Thread Markus Krumpoeck
Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: 15 March 2004 / Beta 3
uname -a: Linux debian 2.4.25-1-386 #1 Tue Feb 24 08:11:13 EST 2004 i686 
GNU/Linux
Date: 8 April 2004, 17:00
Method: only base-system, no network installation

Machine: noname
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Memory: 2GB
Root Device: SCSI, /dev/sda1 
Root Size/partition table: 
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/sda5   noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/sda1   /   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0   1

Output of lspci:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P Processor to I/O Controller (rev 
02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P Processor to AGP Controller (rev 
02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB2 (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB/EB PCI Bridge (rev c2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801EB LPC Interface Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controller (rev 
02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801EB SMBus Controller (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY 
[Radeon 7000/VE]
02:0a.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec ASC-29320 U320 (rev 03)
02:0a.1 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec ASC-29320 U320 (rev 03)
02:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8169 (rev 10)

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

Only 884 MB total RAM shown with free, although 2 GB are installed.

free -m
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:   884 52831  0  4 34
-/+ buffers/cache: 12871
Swap:  486  0486


cat /proc/meminfo:
total:used:free:  shared: buffers:  cached:
Mem:  927113216 54677504 8724357120  5206016 36536320
Swap: 5099233280 509923328
MemTotal:   905384 kB
MemFree:851988 kB
MemShared:   0 kB
Buffers:  5084 kB
Cached:  35680 kB
SwapCached:  0 kB
Active:  23060 kB
Inactive:19656 kB
HighTotal:   0 kB
HighFree:0 kB
LowTotal:   905384 kB
LowFree:851988 kB
SwapTotal:  497972 kB
SwapFree:   497972 kB



/boot/config-2.4.25...:
CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM is not set







Bug squashing and d-i hacking in Munich, April 17/18th

2004-04-08 Thread Michael Banck
[CC'd -boot and -qa to make them aware of this. Please drop them from
the CC unless it's on topic on the respective list]

In parallel to the next Debian-wide IRC BSP[1], a real-life hacking
meeting will take place in Munich on the weekend of April 17/18th. 

Targets:


The focus of the event is twofold and matches the current requirements
for a Sarge release:

1) During the Bug-Squashing Party, as many release critical bugs as
possible shall be closed.

The BSP coordinator Frank Lichtenheld will be attending the meeting, as
well as (probably) Debian QA member Andreas Barth.

2) Work to get the debian-installer closer to being ready for Sarge will
be carried out.

Currently, the planned focus of the debian-installer work is the PowerPC
port, as a lot of hardware is available on-site and the powerpc d-i
kernel maintainers Jens Schmalzing and (probably) Sven Luther will
attend. Also, getting d-i working on Linux-2.6 is considered to be
important and will probably be tackled as well.

Attendance:
===

In addition to the local Debian crowd, we invite other Debian people
from south germany or northern austria to join us in Munich. So far,
Norbert Tretkowski, Frank Lichtenheld and Sven Luther are planning to
come. Please let us know if you want to attend the meeting, so we can
plan ahead a bit. If you want to come but are not able to cover your
travel expenses, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we will see what we can do. 

We explicitly encourage d-i hackers and QA people to consider joining
us.

Location:
=

The meeting will take place at the faculty of mathematics at the
Ludwigs-Maximilians-University, Munich. The building is located in
Theresienstrasse 39 in the very center of Munich, about 10 minutes by
foot (or one subway station) from the central station.

How to get there:
=

By car: Finding a parking spot is not easy in the city center, so
beware. The location is next to the Old Pinakoteque and the Pinakoteque
of Modern Arts, slightly north of the central station and the
Karlsplatz.

By Train: After arriving at the central station, either take the U2
(direction Feldmoching), exit at 'Theresienstrasse' (two stops) and
follow the signs to the Pinakoteques/'Museum Reich der Kristalle' (the
meeting is in the same building as the latter) or just turn left when
leaving the central station through the main entrance and walk along
Luisenstrasse and turn right into Theresienstrasse after about 500 m.

We will put up sign guiding to the exact location of the meeting inside
of the building.

Accomodation:
=

People from outside of Munich are invited to sleep at Michael Banck's
place, which is one block away from the location of the meeting. There
should be enough place for everybody who wants to come, but you should
bring sleeping bags or bedrolls with you, as no beds are avaiable there.
However, a shower and toilets are present of course.

Equipment:
==

Network connection is excellent. Further, the full ftp.debian.org mirror
ftp.leo.org is inside of the Münchner Wissenschaftsnetz. WLAN will
probably be available, too, but this is still being worked on.

For people without their own hardware, computers will be available for
them to hack on for the time of the meeting.

Credits:


Thanks to Jens Schmalzing for providing the location of the meeting and
to the DPL for making sure Sven and Frank (so far) are able to attend.


hope to see you there,

Michael

[1] To be announced


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Re: Debian Installer team seeking for translators : Serbian (sr), Croatian (hr), Hindi (hi), others

2004-04-08 Thread Eddy Petrisor
George Roman wrote:

do you need romanian olso?

 

OH, YES!
Finally some REAL help!
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Re: Request for review of partman-newworld

2004-04-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 03:37:49AM +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
 On 7.IV.2004 Colin Watson wrote:
  This was my first exposure to partman's internals, so I'd appreciate it
  if a partman expert (Anton?) could look it over for any glaring errors.
 
 It is not dangerous, but it won/t work properly.  Partman-palo (and
 partman-lvm) contained some hacks that are not necessary with the new
 version of partman.  However I haven't updated fully the code of
 partman-palo yet.I will look at partman-newworld after a few days.

Thanks; I appreciate it.

 I suppose that only one partition needs to be yaboot
 partition. However the Mac disk label supports more than one partition
 with bootable flag set.  How the bootable flag is supposed to be used?
 Probably every operating system has to have one partition with
 bootable flag set?

I don't think so. My Mac OS X partition, for instance, doesn't have the
boot flag set, yet it boots. In the absence of yaboot, I would imagine
it boots by means of the proper boot-device setting in OpenFirmware
NVRAM. I think it's adequate for only the yaboot partition to have the
boot flag. That said, I would definitely not want to remove the boot
flag on partitions that already have it set before partman starts.

parted looks at the state of the boot flag when deciding whether to
create an Apple_Bootstrap partition, and yabootconfig/yaboot-installer
look for such a partition when figuring out where to install the boot
loader. They then call mkofboot, which sets the boot-device variable in
NVRAM so that OpenFirmware knows where to look at the next boot.

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Bug#242718: d-i: Can't finish installation after power outage

2004-04-08 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
[snip]
 Rebooting again, I tried to additionally supply rw init=/bin/sh to
 grub's kernel parameters, but seems these were ignored.

Parameters before init= are ignored by the kernel.


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Bug#242776: [Successful Install] Dell Latitude CPx (650Mhz/PIII + 256MB Ram)

2004-04-08 Thread Adam Garside
Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: March 15th Install Image
(http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/sarge_d-i/i386/beta3/sarge-i386-netinst.iso)
uname -a: Linux satchel 2.4.25-1-386 #1 Tue Feb 24 08:11:13 EST 2004
i686 GNU/Linux
Date: April 8th, 2004 12:05 PM
Method: 100 MB netinst CD. Booted off netinst CD. Network install used
'ftp.us.debian.org' as the mirror. No proxy was used.

Machine: Dell Latitude CPx J650GT (Laptop)
Processor: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) 650MHz
Memory: 256 MB
Root Device: IDE (IBM DJSA-210)
Root Size/partition table: 

satchel:~# cat /etc/fstab

proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/hda5   noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/hda6   /boot   ext3defaults0   2
/dev/hda7   /   xfs defaults0   1

satchel:~# fdisk -l /dev/hda

Disk /dev/hda: 10.0 GB, 10056130560 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1222 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *   1 828 6650878+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda2 8291222 31648055  Extended
/dev/hda5 829 844  128488+  82  Linux swap
/dev/hda6   * 845 850   48163+  83  Linux
/dev/hda7 8511222 2988058+  83  Linux

Output of lspci:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03)
00:03.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1225 (rev 01)
00:03.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1225 (rev 01)
00:07.0 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 03)
00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1983S Maestro-3i PCI Audio 
Accelerator (rev 10)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x (rev 
64)
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Xircom Cardbus Ethernet 10/100 (rev 03)
02:00.1 Serial controller: Xircom Cardbus Ethernet + 56k Modem (rev 03)


Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

The install went incredibly smoothly, requiring little intervention on
my part execpt manually creating the partitions (to use ext3 and xfs)
though even this was straight forward and intuitive.

The only issue I noticed was during 'grub-install' where the process
hung for a period of ~4 minutes due to probing for the floppy drive (the
bay still had the CD-Rom in.) Perhaps putting a message indicating that
this might be a problem or allowing the option of installing grub with '--no-floppy' 
might help people who have never experienced this before (or didn't know to ALT+F4 to 
see why.)

Otherwise, fantastic job all around. Kudos!




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Bug#242779: busybox-cvs-udeb: wget fails with 'SIZE value is garbage' on unauthoritative file length

2004-04-08 Thread Peter Karbaliotis
Package: busybox-cvs-udeb
Version: 20040402-1
Severity: normal
Tags: sid

/tmp/reportbug-busybox-cvs-udeb-5401-bhsxQd

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Re: Debian Installer team seeking for translators : Serbian (sr), Croatian (hr), Hindi (hi), others

2004-04-08 Thread George Roman


so what can i do?


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Bug#242779: oops. used --body instead of --body-file

2004-04-08 Thread Peter Karbaliotis
Package: busybox-cvs-udeb
Version: 20040402-1
Severity: normal
Tags: sid
In an install from the sparc businesscard iso I get a 'Bad archive
mirror' message when trying to get the (testing) Release file.  I opened
up a shell and tried manually using the command
wget ftp://sunsite.ualberta.ca/pub/Linux/debian/debian/dists/sarge/Release
and got back
Connecting to sunsite.ualberta.ca[129.128.5.190]:21
wget: SIZE value is garbage
I then downloaded both the testing and unstable i386 versions to my
desktop, extracted the packages and ran them.  The testing version runs
fine but the unstable version produces the same error message.
Thanks

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Re: Debian Installer team seeking for translators : Serbian (sr), Croatian (hr), Hindi (hi), others

2004-04-08 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
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On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Christian Perrier wrote:

 -Hindi (or whatever people from India will feel most appropriate
 besides English)


Hindi is good.  Bengali and Tamil also have active Linux translation
teams, with Bengali you get Bangladesh as a bonus.  And I have a personal
interest in Gujarati.

BUT

what kind of support for Indic scripts is there in d-i?  Are opentype
fonts supported?  We actually have a pretty good range of fonts packaged
or will have soon.  Would udebs have to be made for them?

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Bug#242787: termwrap: [INTL:uk] patch for KOU8-U support in text mode console

2004-04-08 Thread Eugeniy Meshcheryakov
Package: base-config
Version: 2.17
Severity: wishlist
Tags: patch l10n

   Attached patch adds support for KOI8-U to termwrap.
There is no need to use fbterm for koi8-u.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.4.25
Locale: LANG=uk_UA, LC_CTYPE=uk_UA

Versions of packages base-config depends on:
ii  adduser 3.52 Add and remove users and groups
ii  apt 0.5.24   Advanced front-end for dpkg
ii  aptitude0.2.14.1-2   curses-based apt frontend
ii  bsdutils1:2.12-6 Basic utilities from 4.4BSD-Lite
ii  console-data2002.12.04dbs-35 Keymaps, fonts, charset maps, fall
ii  console-tools   1:0.2.3dbs-50Linux console and font utilities
ii  debconf 1.4.21   Debian configuration management sy
ii  debianutils 2.8.1Miscellaneous utilities specific t
ii  gettext-base0.14.1-2 GNU Internationalization utilities
ii  passwd  1:4.0.3-26   Change and administer password and

-- debconf information excluded
? termwrap-devfs.diff
? termwrap-koi8u.diff
Index: termwrap
===
RCS file: /cvsroot/base-config/base-config/termwrap,v
retrieving revision 1.32
diff -u -r1.32 termwrap
--- termwrap31 Mar 2004 01:21:12 -  1.32
+++ termwrap8 Apr 2004 18:32:44 -
@@ -253,6 +253,10 @@
# Load ISO-8859-15 charset mapping into console
try_load_charset $ENCODING iso15 lat0-sun16
;;
+KOI8-U)
+   # Load KOU8-U charset mapping into console
+   try_load_charset $ENCODING koi8u koi8u_8x16
+   ;;
 eucJP|EUC-JP)
# Japanese
case $TERMINAL in
@@ -323,7 +327,7 @@

# Fallback to C
case $ENCODING in
-   ISO-8859-1|ISO-8859-2|ISO-8859-13|ISO-8859-15|KOI8-R)
+   ISO-8859-1|ISO-8859-2|ISO-8859-13|ISO-8859-15|KOI8-R|KOI8-U)
# Nothing to do
;;
*)
@@ -336,7 +340,7 @@
 $@
 
 case $ENCODING in
-ISO-8859-1|KOI8-R)
+ISO-8859-1|KOI8-R|KOI8-U)
# Nothing to do, using default config
;;
 ISO-8859-2)


Bug#242785: termwrap: does not understand devfs terminal devices

2004-04-08 Thread Eugeniy Meshcheryakov
Package: base-config
Version: 2.17
Severity: minor
Tags: patch

   termwrap does not understand devfs device names. That
is not a problem during installation but it may be
useful after installation.
   Attached patch fixes this problem

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  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.4.25
Locale: LANG=uk_UA, LC_CTYPE=uk_UA

Versions of packages base-config depends on:
ii  adduser 3.52 Add and remove users and groups
ii  apt 0.5.24   Advanced front-end for dpkg
ii  aptitude0.2.14.1-2   curses-based apt frontend
ii  bsdutils1:2.12-6 Basic utilities from 4.4BSD-Lite
ii  console-data2002.12.04dbs-35 Keymaps, fonts, charset maps, fall
ii  console-tools   1:0.2.3dbs-50Linux console and font utilities
ii  debconf 1.4.21   Debian configuration management sy
ii  debianutils 2.8.1Miscellaneous utilities specific t
ii  gettext-base0.14.1-2 GNU Internationalization utilities
ii  passwd  1:4.0.3-26   Change and administer password and

-- debconf information excluded
? termwrap-devfs.diff
Index: termwrap
===
RCS file: /cvsroot/base-config/base-config/termwrap,v
retrieving revision 1.32
diff -u -r1.32 termwrap
--- termwrap31 Mar 2004 01:21:12 -  1.32
+++ termwrap8 Apr 2004 18:22:02 -
@@ -184,10 +184,10 @@
#esac
 
;;
-/dev/tty|/dev/tty[1-9]*)
+/dev/tty|/dev/tty[1-9]*|/dev/vc/*)
TERMINAL=console
;;
-/dev/tty[p-za-e]*)
+/dev/tty[p-za-e]*|/dev/pts/*)
TERMINAL=pseudo
if [ ! -z $DISPLAY ]; then
TERMINAL=x


Bug#242788: installation report

2004-04-08 Thread Bjorn Helgaas
Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version:
  
http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/sarge_d-i/i386/beta3/sarge-i386-businesscard.iso
uname -a: (I installed newer kernel after initial installation)
  Linux piglet 2.6.4-1-386 #1 Sat Mar 13 17:49:12 EST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux
Date: 4/7/2004
Method: How did you install?  What did you boot off?  If network
  install, from where?  Proxied?
  business card CD
  deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main
(through proxy)

Machine: HP Omnibook 500
Processor:  Pentium III (Coppermine)
Memory: 511MB LOWMEM available.
Root Device: hda: 58605120 sectors (30005 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=16383/255/63, 
UDMA(33)
Root Size/partition table:
   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *   11021 8195008+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/hda21022358620603362+  83  Linux  (mounted as /)
/dev/hda335873648  498015f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hda535873648  497983+  82  Linux swap

Output of lspci:
:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03)
:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03)
:00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
:00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 03)
:00:0a.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1410 PC card Cardbus Controller (rev 
01)
:00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c556 Hurricane CardBus (rev 10)
:00:0b.1 Communication controller: 3Com Corporation Mini PCI 56k Winmodem (rev 10)
:00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1983S Maestro-3i PCI Audio 
Accelerator
:00:11.0 IDE interface: CMD Technology Inc PCI0648 (rev 01)
:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x 
(rev 64)

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[ O]
Configure network HW:   [ O]
Config network: [ O]
Detect CD:  [ O]
Load installer modules: [ O]
Detect hard drives: [ O]
Partition hard drives:  [ O]
Create file systems:[ O]
Mount partitions:   [ O]
Install base system:[ O]
Install boot loader:[ E]
Reboot: [ O]

Comments/Problems:

Nice overall.

The only problem was that I had previously installed
Windows XP in /dev/hda1.  The grub configuration asked whether
to install in the master boot record, and warned that doing so
might prevent other OS's from booting.  So I said 'don't install
in the MBR'.

But afterwards, I couldn't boot Windows XP anyway.  I think this
is because it marked /dev/hda2 as the bootable partition.  After I
marked /dev/hda2 as non-bootable and /dev/hda1 as bootable,
Windows XP booted fine.

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FWD: Re: formatting partitions

2004-04-08 Thread Joey Hess
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:34:57 +0200 (CEST)
To: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: formatting partitions

On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, Joey Hess wrote:

 Tomas Davidek wrote:
I had troubles when partitioning the disk during the installation using
  Debian installer (beta 3). The problem is that the default format (ext2 or
  ext3) makes the system with 5% reserved space for root, which is sometimes
  too much. Therefore, I prefer to have an option to change this value.
 
  So I tried to format the partition manually via
 mke2fs -j -m 1 /dev/hda2
  and then try to remount it (by setting use existing format). The problem
  is that after exiting the partitioning section the installer complainted
  about wrong format of the partition, so I could not continue.
 
  I event tried to modified the script residing in the ram disk at that
  time, but I didn't succced. Is there an (relatively) easy way how to
  override the default 5% reserved space ? If not, I would suggest to
  include such an option into the HDD partitioning section.

 Currently the best way is probably to install with the defaults, and
 then use tune2fs -m on the running system to tweak the values.

Hello,
  thanks for the answer, I tried to apply your suggestion but it does not
work. Although the command tune2fs -m 1 /dev/hdX reports only 1% will be
reserved, the subsequent tune2fs -l /dev/hdX still reports 5% reserved
(even after reboot for the root partition). Also, when I did df before
and after, no change. I tried the same for the ohter partitions (/home,
/scratch), the same results. But if I re-format them (mke2fs -j -m 1
/dev/hdX), then tune2fs -l reports the correct reserved block amount and
also df displays more space on the disk.

So the question is: what does the tune2fs -m really do ???

 I have forwarded your mail to our bug tracking system as a wishlist bug
 report, perhaps we can add something to allow tweaking of these values
 in the installer.

Thanks, this would be nice.

Best regards
   Tomas

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translate to belarussian

2004-04-08 Thread linuxovik
Hello debian-boot,

  well, i would like to translate debian installer to belarussian

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MCP750 Installation

2004-04-08 Thread lnxnut
I am trying to use sid or sarge to perform the installation on my MCP750 
computer.

I have tried the installation docs that come with it, and have found no set 
instructions for the installation of a PREP-boot machine.

Is there one doc that I can access for this information?

I have tried installing woody, but found issues with that.  When I used Eric 
Vallette's bootfull.bin I was able to get all the way to the point that I am 
trying to install (and find) the base2_2.tgz file for the install. I could not 
get it to a) download the basedebs.tar from http.us.debian.org and/or b) use the 
base2_2.tgz from my NFS/tftpboot/http server.


My current issue is that when I try to use sid/sarge, I do not know the 
procedure to get a .bin file if I need one I have the vmlinux and the 
initrd, I just d not know how to get the point of installation

If someone can send a link to some docs to help that would be great

Thank you,

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[PATCH] PCMCIA network cards + Cardbus

2004-04-08 Thread Per Olofsson
Hi,

I have created patches now for ddetect and netcfg which implement
Cardbus support and proper configuration of PCMCIA network
interfaces. The latter means that it doesn't create an auto entry for
PCMCIA cards but lists it in a mapping hotplug stanza. The whole
thing is implemented by a temporary hotplug agent. The module loading
part for Cardbus devices isn't very nice but I'm not sure how to do it
otherwise, and besides, we will have to do it differently for 2.6
kernels anyway.

(By the way, is anybody actively working on porting d-i to 2.6
kernels?)

-- 
Pelle
Index: ddetect/hotplug-pcmcia.sh
===
--- ddetect/hotplug-pcmcia.sh   (revision 0)
+++ ddetect/hotplug-pcmcia.sh   (revision 0)
@@ -0,0 +1,73 @@
+#!/bin/sh
+#
+# hotplug-pcmcia.sh - Handle hotplug events for PCMCIA devices during detection
+#
+
+log () {
+logger -t hotplug-pcmcia $@
+}
+
+TYPE=$1
+
+case $TYPE in
+net)
+   if [ $INTERFACE ==  ]; then
+   log Got net event without interface
+   exit 1
+   fi
+
+   log Detected PCMCIA network interface $INTERFACE
+   echo $INTERFACE /etc/network/devhotplug
+   ;;
+
+# PCI hotplugging for Cardbus cards on 2.4 kernels only
+pci)
+   if [ $PCI_SLOT_NAME =  ]; then
+   log Got pci event without slot name
+   exit 1
+   fi
+
+   # Sanity check
+   if ! [ -f /tmp/pcmcia-discover-snapshot ]; then
+   log Got PCI event but have no discover snapshot! 2.6 kernel?
+   exit 1
+   fi
+
+   log Detected Cardbus device at $PCI_SLOT_NAME
+
+   # Take another snapshot of discover information and compare it
+   # with the old one to find out the module for the new device
+
+   log Searching for module...
+
+   modules_before=`cat /tmp/pcmcia-discover-snapshot`
+
+   DISCOVER_TEST=$(discover --version 2 /dev/null)
+   if expr $DISCOVER_TEST : 'discover 2.*'  /dev/null 21; then
+   dpath=linux/module/name
+   dver=`uname -r|cut -d. -f1,2` # Kernel version (e.g. 2.4)
+   dflags=-d all -e pci scsi fixeddisk modem network removabledisk
+   
+   echo `discover --data-path=$dpath --data-version=$dver $dflags` \
+   | sed 's/ $//' /tmp/pcmcia-discover-snapshot
+   else
+   discover --format=%m  --disable-all --enable=pci \
+   scsi ide ethernet \
+   | sed 's/ $//' /tmp/pcmcia-discover-snapshot
+   fi
+   
+   modules_after=`cat /tmp/pcmcia-discover-snapshot`
+   module=`echo ${modules_after#$modules_before} | sed 's/^ //'`
+
+   if [ -n $module ]; then
+   log Found module $module, loading
+   modprobe -v $module 21 | logger -t hotplug-pcmcia
+   else
+   log No module found for Cardbus device at $PCI_SLOT_NAME
+   fi
+   ;;
+
+*)
+   log Got unsupported event type \$TYPE\
+   ;;
+esac

Property changes on: ddetect/hotplug-pcmcia.sh
___
Name: svn:executable
   + *

Index: ddetect/hw-detect.sh
===
--- ddetect/hw-detect.sh(revision 12932)
+++ ddetect/hw-detect.sh(working copy)
@@ -303,9 +303,46 @@
 
 # get pcmcia running if possible
 if [ -x /etc/init.d/pcmcia ]; then
-   db_progress INFO hw-detect/pcmcia_step
-   CARDMGR_OPTS=-f /etc/init.d/pcmcia start /dev/null 21 | logger -t 
hw-detect
-   db_progress STEP $OTHER_STEPSIZE
+db_progress INFO hw-detect/pcmcia_step
+
+# If hotplugging is available in the kernel, we can use it to load
+# modules for Cardbus cards and tell which network interfaces belong
+# to PCMCIA devices. The former is only necessary on 2.4 kernels,
+# though.
+if [ -f /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug ]; then
+# Snapshot discover information so we can detect modules for
+   # Cardbus cards by later comparison in the hotplug handler.
+   # (Only on 2.4 kernels.)
+   if expr `uname -r` : 2.4.* /dev/null 21; then
+   DISCOVER_TEST=$(discover --version 2 /dev/null)
+   if expr $DISCOVER_TEST : 'discover 2.*'  /dev/null 21; then
+   dpath=linux/module/name
+   dver=`uname -r|cut -d. -f1,2` # Kernel version (e.g. 2.4)
+   dflags=-d all -e pci scsi fixeddisk modem network removabledisk
+   
+   echo `discover --data-path=$dpath --data-version=$dver $dflags` \
+   | sed 's/ $//' /tmp/pcmcia-discover-snapshot
+   else
+   discover --format=%m  --disable-all --enable=pci \
+   scsi ide ethernet \
+   | sed 's/ $//' /tmp/pcmcia-discover-snapshot
+   fi
+   fi
+   
+# Simple handling of hotplug events during PCMCIA detection
+   saved_hotplug=`cat /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug`
+   echo /bin/hotplug-pcmcia 

Bug#242689: rebuilding the package loses translations of http/mirrors countries

2004-04-08 Thread Denis Barbier
On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 01:07:57AM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote:
[...]
  Well, we could make mirror updates manual, and add error checking. That
  would unfortunalty mean we'd have to remmeber to do them though. Any
  better ideas?
 
 Would using the intltool-merge and po2debconf scripts from
 countrychooser fix the problem?

Not entirely.  As Christian explained, choose-mirror should mimic
countrychooser and retrieve translated country names from iso-codes.
I will try to do something about it tonight.

Denis


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Bug#242798: installation: Sarge installer only require _1_ CD when adding sources

2004-04-08 Thread DEMAINE Benoit-Pierre
Package: installation
Severity: normal

*** Please type your report below this line ***

I burned sarge-i386-netinst.iso from
http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/sarge_d-i/i386/beta3/
and when the installer offered me to add apt sources, I asked to add
some CDs, but it asked me to insert only _1_ CD, and then made me choose
between aptitude, dselect and the other ones, without giving the
possibility to insetr a second and third CD ...
Older versions of the installer used to offer that possibility.

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Bug#242787: termwrap: [INTL:uk] patch for KOU8-U support in text mode console

2004-04-08 Thread Denis Barbier
tags 242787 + pending
thanks

On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 09:39:32PM +0300, Eugeniy Meshcheryakov wrote:
 Package: base-config
 Version: 2.17
 Severity: wishlist
 Tags: patch l10n
 
Attached patch adds support for KOI8-U to termwrap.
 There is no need to use fbterm for koi8-u.
[...]

Committed, I slightly modified the last chunk.

Denis


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Scripted Installations

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Scripted Installations

2004-04-08 Thread russh347
Is there a way to script responses to the standard debian-installer without rebuilding 
it?

We are building up a distribution on CD to go with a distribute embedded system.  The 
hardware is fairly well locked down and we don't need a lot of options.  


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Bug#242718: d-i: Can't finish installation after power outage

2004-04-08 Thread Jan-Benedict Glaw
On Thu, 2004-04-08 19:02:08 +0200, Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Rebooting again, I tried to additionally supply rw init=/bin/sh to
  grub's kernel parameters, but seems these were ignored.
 
 Parameters before init= are ignored by the kernel.

Thanks. Already figured out :)

However, here's additional (important) information. When I was asked
about keyboard layout, I choosed German (no dead keys). However, later
on it seems mac-usb-latin1 (or something similar, don't remember exact
name) was used. This is why I wasn't able to switch VCs any more...

MfG, JBG

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d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-08 Thread Malte Cornils
Hi.

I reported recently on my failure to use the d-i floppies for the 4400/200. I 
tested the current (04/06/2004) bootfloppies on that machine and an 7200/75 
(redundancy in floppy disk drives ;-)).

On the 7200, both ofonlyboot and boot fail to display anything on the local 
console (but eject the floppy).

Is there anything I can debug this with?

I have the same problem on my 4400 now; on that machine, sprite's boot floppy 
displayed kernel boot messages (and had the problems already reported, this 
is why I tested on the 7200 with a new FDD now), but I have lost the image 
and the site doesn't host the images anymore.

Also, the two most recent autobuilt floppy images have root.img and cd/
net-drivers.img, but lack boot.img and ofonlyboot.img.

Browsing the mailing list for an explanation/warning did not yield any 
information, I might have missed it though.

Anyone have the same problems or have an idea what could be the cause/how I 
could further debug this? We also have an 8100 and an IIsi (IIRC) lying 
around I could test, too.

(No promises, but if a d-i developer wants those machines, we can probably 
spare one or two - they would have to be fetched from Karlsruhe, Germany 
though)

-Malte #8-)


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Bug#242820: sun4u doesn't boot beta3

2004-04-08 Thread Chad Walstrom
Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: beta3
uname -a: NA
Date: 2004-04-07
Method: CDROM sarge-sparc-netinst.iso

Machine: Sun UltraSparc 5
Processor: sun4u
Memory: 265 MB
Root Device: IDE
Root Size/partition table: Didn't get that far
Output of lspci: Didn't get that far

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[E]
Configure network HW:   [ ]
Config network: [ ]
Detect CD:  [ ]
Load installer modules: [ ]
Detect hard drives: [ ]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:[ ]
Mount partitions:   [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

 Simply could not get it to boot.  Silo loads but when I press enter to
 boot into the kernel, all I get is one Illegal Instruction message.

 Downloading the jigdo snapshot for the sparc also produces this error.
 To contract, the stable installation disk works fine.

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Bug#242776: [Successful Install] Dell Latitude CPx (650Mhz/PIII + 256MB Ram)

2004-04-08 Thread Dan Weber
On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 01:37:34PM -0400, Adam Garside wrote:
 The only issue I noticed was during 'grub-install' where the process
 hung for a period of ~4 minutes due to probing for the floppy drive (the
 bay still had the CD-Rom in.) Perhaps putting a message indicating that
 this might be a problem or allowing the option of installing grub with '--no-floppy' 
 might help people who have never experienced this before (or didn't know to ALT+F4 
 to see why.)
For machines that require boot from floppy, we probably can't remove
that.  However it maybe possible to add a syslinux option to flag that
there is no floppy or something of that sort.  Thanks for the note.

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Bug#242489: marked as done (can't find a keymap)

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Package: kbd-chooser
Severity: important
Tags: d-i

d-i initrds built from unstable have a non-working kbd-chooser. It fails
after I choose PC-style from the first menu (medium priority). I see
this in the logs: kbd-chooser: cannot open fle

This image has compressed keymaps on it. Colin Watson also saw this
problem on powerpc. It was working yesterday, IIRC.

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Source: console-data
Source-Version: 2002.12.04dbs-36

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
console-data, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

console-data_2002.12.04dbs-36.dsc
  to pool/main/c/console-data/console-data_2002.12.04dbs-36.dsc
console-data_2002.12.04dbs-36.tar.gz
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console-data_2002.12.04dbs-36_all.deb
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console-keymaps-acorn_2002.12.04dbs-36_all.udeb
  

Bug#242820: Acknowledgement (sun4u doesn't boot beta3)

2004-04-08 Thread Chad Walstrom
I was able to get past the silo boot and into the kernel with the
following command (as indicated in the errata for beta3):

   Boot: linux root=/dev/rd/0 rw

But it fails when trying to mount the ramdisk, which it claims is
reiserfs.

  ...
  sh-2021: resierfs_read_super: cannot find reiserfs on ramdisk(1,0)
  Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 00:00


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Bug#242820: More info on architecture

2004-04-08 Thread Chad Walstrom
I hadn't specified the processor type exactly (as reported by the
Firmware) UltraSparc IIi, 333 MHz.  Also, scratch the first report.  I
am not getting the Illegal Instruction any longer.  It is simply
failing to mount root in the aforementioned reiserfs problem.

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Bug#242822: Alpha arch : No aboot-base means aboot doesnt install

2004-04-08 Thread Craig Small
Package: installation-reports
 
INSTALL REPORT
 
Debian-installer-version: Beta 3 from Debian devel pages, 100 Meg image
uname -a: Linux fozzie 2.4.18-1-generic #5 Wed Jan 7 20:10:15 EST 2004 alpha GNU/Linux
uname is from old disk and yes i know its old but 2.4.24 borks my
ethernet cards

Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 09:59:04 +1000
Method: Booted off CD
 
Machine: Alpha PC164SX
Processor: PCA56
Memory: 256 Meg
Root Device: IDE 30 Meg IBM Sucks Drive
Root Size/partition table:  The default, 8 Gig /, 512M swap rest /home
Output of lspci:
00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Cirrus Logic GD 5434-8 [Alpine] (rev fc)
00:07.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] (rev 74)
00:08.0 ISA bridge: Contaq Microsystems 82c693
00:08.1 IDE interface: Contaq Microsystems 82c693
00:08.2 IDE interface: Contaq Microsystems 82c693
00:08.3 USB Controller: Contaq Microsystems 82c693
 
Base System Installation Checklist:
 
Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [E]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[E]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

Partitions actually appear to be BSD disklabels, which is good.  However
they put /home on partition 3 which I thought was a no-no as they're
supposed to be like Solaris hosts where partition 3 is whole disk.
I could be wrong.

CRITIAL ERROR with installation of aboot.  It did not install because
aboot depends on aboot-base and that is not installed.  That means
the d-i failed to work. On Alpha hosts no aboot means no booting so
its really important to have it there.



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Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: beta3
uname -a: NA
Date: 2004-04-07
Method: CDROM sarge-sparc-netinst.iso

Machine: Sun UltraSparc 5
Processor: sun4u
Memory: 265 MB
Root Device: IDE
Root Size/partition table: Didn't get that far
Output of lspci: Didn't get that far

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[E]
Configure network HW:   [ ]
Config network: [ ]
Detect CD:  [ ]
Load installer modules: [ ]
Detect hard drives: [ ]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:[ ]
Mount partitions:   [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] =3D OK, [E] =3D Error (please elaborate below), [ ] =3D didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

 Simply could not get it to boot.  Silo loads but when I press enter to
 boot into the kernel, all I get is one Illegal Instruction message.

 Downloading the jigdo snapshot for the sparc also produces this error.
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timeline for beta 4

2004-04-08 Thread Joey Hess
This may seem early, but beta 4 is closer than it may appear.

1-16 april  development and porting

We're in this period now.

17-22 april string freeze; general development slowdown; porting continues

We'll need to slow down on general development (in trunk, anyway) during
this period, and begin to look at stabilising the installer. A lot of
stuff has been breaking, and making things harder for porters. Porting
will continue during this time period (might include 2.6 porting), and
porters can break the string freeze if necessary.

23 aprilupload translated udebs to archive
24 aprillast possible changes to udebs on initrds
25 aprilinitrd builds
26 aprilinitrd builds continue (slow autobuilders)
27 aprilcd building, testing
28 aprilrelease beta 4


We passed a nice milestone earlier this week, when the d-i images
autobuilt for 10 architectures. The lone failure was on powerpc, which
is due to problems with the autobuilder, not us.

We've now had recent success reports for all architectures except hppa
and s390. Arm and mipsel are notable additions. Hppa is blocked by a
libc bug (though there's a workaround), and a lack of people working on
it (right now). S390 is still blocked by parted.


Of our errata for beta 3, the following are still problems to be best of
my knowledge, and need to be fixed soon:

- hardware raid problems (probably fixed, but as of yet, unverified)
- alpha cannot install from SCSI cdrom
- ia64 netboot installs broken
- sparc CDs broken
- Arabic and Hebrew display problems (progress has been made)

Of the other possible goals for this release, these remain undone:

- use the new boot logo (needs to have the sarge version number fixed)
- a less intimidating grub install screen
- 2.6 kernel support

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2.6

2004-04-08 Thread Joey Hess
I did a little bit of 2.6 work tonight. There is a
linux-kernek-di-i386-2.6 in the repository, which will build if you
install the kernel-wedge also from svn. It is missing many modules in
the lists, see TODO.

Attached is a quick and dirty patch to installer/build to support
building 2.6 netboot initrds on i386. A better technique is needed. I'm
thinking #ifdefs in the pkg-lists files. 

You'll need lowmem 0.4, or leave it off the initrd. With that fixed,
it boots to the main menu.

The next bug to fix seems to be modprobe. While /sbin/modprobe is from
module-init-tools, and there is no other on the initrd, if I run
modprobe at the command line, busybox shell seems to run the builtin
busybox modprobe anyway. /sbin/modprobe works ok. If we can't get around
this busybox behavior, then the hack of overwriting busybox's modprobe
won't work, and we'll need to either fix busybox to support 2.6 itself
(yes please!) or we'll need separate busybox udebs for 2.6 without the
modutils built into them. This prevents the installation process from
getting very far.

Oh yeah, and it's even slower in vmware than 2.4 was. :-P

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Bug#242776: [Successful Install] Dell Latitude CPx (650Mhz/PIII + 256MB Ram)

2004-04-08 Thread Joey Hess
Dan Weber wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 01:37:34PM -0400, Adam Garside wrote:
  The only issue I noticed was during 'grub-install' where the process
  hung for a period of ~4 minutes due to probing for the floppy drive (the
  bay still had the CD-Rom in.) Perhaps putting a message indicating that
  this might be a problem or allowing the option of installing grub with 
  '--no-floppy' might help people who have never experienced this before (or didn't 
  know to ALT+F4 to see why.)
 For machines that require boot from floppy, we probably can't remove
 that.  However it maybe possible to add a syslinux option to flag that
 there is no floppy or something of that sort.  Thanks for the note.

I changed grub-installer a while ago to pass --no-floppy unless the user
tells it to install grub _to_ a floppy.

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Bug#242827: installation report

2004-04-08 Thread psi
Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: d-i beta 3
uname -a: Linux 2.4.25-1-386 #1 Tue Feb 24 08:11:13 EST 2004 i586 unknown
Date: 9 Mar 2004
Method: Boot Floppies

Machine: DEC Venturis FX2 (P166)
Processor: Pentium 166
Memory: 64MB
Root Device: IDE /dev/hda
Root Size/partition table:
Output of lspci: lspci not available during initial install

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [E]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [ ]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

This bug report is similar to one I sent in a month or so ago...the
machine I am installing to is using an Intel Eepro10 (82595) network card.
 This is an ISA PnP device but PnP never works with linux so PnP has been
manually set to 'off' in the cards eeprom.

d-i cannot auto detect this card it seems (which is reasonable), so you
are presented with a huge list of odd names which are meant to represent
available network card modules...

...by the way, I've been using linux long enough to know most of these
modules, but surely we can make it a little easier on the newbie by
plonking descriptions of cards which commonly use a module to the right of
the module name?  Who would guess for instance that 'b44' is for a
broadcom NIC?

Anyway, I know I have to use the eepro module for this NIC, but when I
select it from the list the module fails to load, a bit more hardware
detection ensues then I'm presented with the list again.  Of course the
problem is that the module wants some parameters, in this case it wants
io=0xYYY, this can be done with an 'insmod' from TTY2, but newbies won't
know this.

I filed a bug against module 'ne' for the same problem and it appears to
have been fixed, can we do the same for eepro if the module load fails?  I
imagine almost all ISA based NIC's (even some PnP types) will fail in this
way so this bug report should possibly ripple out to all ISA NIC based
modules that will be present on the d-i media.

Best regards,
Craig



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lowmem_0.4_i386.changes ACCEPTED

2004-04-08 Thread Debian Installer

Accepted:
lowmem_0.4.dsc
  to pool/main/l/lowmem/lowmem_0.4.dsc
lowmem_0.4.tar.gz
  to pool/main/l/lowmem/lowmem_0.4.tar.gz
lowmem_0.4_all.udeb
  to pool/main/l/lowmem/lowmem_0.4_all.udeb
lowmemcheck_0.4_i386.udeb
  to pool/main/l/lowmem/lowmemcheck_0.4_i386.udeb
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Re: 2.6

2004-04-08 Thread Joey Hess
Joey Hess wrote:
 Attached is a quick and dirty patch

well..

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Index: config/i386.cfg
===
--- config/i386.cfg (revision 12908)
+++ config/i386.cfg (working copy)
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 MEDIUM_SUPPORTED = cdrom netboot floppy hd-media monolithic
 
 # The version of the kernel to use.
-KERNELVERSION = 2.4.25-1-386
+KERNELVERSION = 2.6.4-1-386
 KERNEL_FLAVOUR = di
 KERNELNAME = vmlinuz
 KERNELIMAGEVERSION = $(KERNELVERSION)
Index: pkg-lists/netboot/i386.cfg
===
--- pkg-lists/netboot/i386.cfg  (revision 12908)
+++ pkg-lists/netboot/i386.cfg  (working copy)
@@ -8,11 +8,12 @@
 usb-discover
 nic-shared-modules-${kernel:Version}
 socket-modules-${kernel:Version}
-isa-pnp-modules-${kernel:Version}
+#isa-pnp-modules-${kernel:Version}
 nic-modules-${kernel:Version}
 nic-extra-modules-${kernel:Version}
 usb-modules-${kernel:Version}
-input-modules-${kernel:Version}
+# not available for 2.6, though it should be
+#input-modules-${kernel:Version}
 kbd-chooser
 
 # This is needed for proper display of utf-8.
Index: pkg-lists/netboot/common
===
--- pkg-lists/netboot/common(revision 12908)
+++ pkg-lists/netboot/common(working copy)
@@ -3,6 +3,7 @@
 
 # Other udebs that are needed for netboot install
 busybox-cvs-udeb
+module-init-tools-udeb
 languagechooser
 countrychooser
 iso-3166-udeb


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Bug#242829: installation report

2004-04-08 Thread James Y Knight
Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: Beta-3
uname -a: Linux x 2.4.25-1-386 #1 Tue Feb 24 08:11:13 EST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux
Date: April 5, 2004.
Method: 100MB CD image

Machine: Dell 2650
Processor: Dual 3Ghz Xeon
Memory: 1GB
Root Device: SCSI Hardware RAID
Root Size/partition table: 
Name  Part Type FS Type Size (MB) Mountpoint
-
sda1   Primary  Dell Utility41.13
sda2   Primary  Linux LVM 2689.67 [[vg01]]
sda3   Primary  Linux ReiserFS 106.93 /boot
sda5   Logical  Linux ReiserFS   10479.01 /usr
sda6   Logical  Linux swap2089.23
sda7   Logical  Linux ReiserFS1077.52 /
sda8   Logical  Linux ext31077.52 /tmp
sda9   Logical  Linux ReiserFS   10479.01 /var
sda10  Logical  Linux LVM   265553.17 [[vg01]]

LVM vg01 has ReiserFS /home as its only contents.

Output of lspci:
00:00.0 Host bridge: ServerWorks CNB20-HE Host Bridge (rev 32)
00:00.1 Host bridge: ServerWorks CNB20-HE Host Bridge
00:00.2 Host bridge: ServerWorks CNB20-HE Host Bridge
00:04.0 Class ff00: Dell Computer Corporation Remote Access Controller:ERA or ERA/O
00:04.1 Class ff00: Dell Computer Corporation Remote Access Controller
00:04.2 Class ff00: Dell Computer Corporation BMC/SMIC device
00:0e.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL (rev 27)
00:0f.0 Host bridge: ServerWorks CSB5 South Bridge (rev 93)
00:0f.1 IDE interface: ServerWorks CSB5 IDE Controller (rev 93)
00:0f.2 USB Controller: ServerWorks OSB4/CSB5 OHCI USB Controller (rev 05)
00:0f.3 ISA bridge: ServerWorks GCLE Host Bridge
00:10.0 Host bridge: ServerWorks: Unknown device 0101 (rev 05)
00:10.2 Host bridge: ServerWorks: Unknown device 0101 (rev 05)
00:11.0 Host bridge: ServerWorks: Unknown device 0101 (rev 05)
00:11.2 Host bridge: ServerWorks: Unknown device 0101 (rev 05)
03:06.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5703 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 02)
03:08.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5703 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 02)
04:08.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 0309 (rev 01)
04:08.1 RAID bus controller: Dell Computer Corporation PowerEdge Expandable RAID Controller 3 (rev 01)
05:06.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec RAID subsystem HBA (rev 01)
05:06.1 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec RAID subsystem HBA (rev 01)

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:
I wanted to use the existing partition table, just reformat each partition. It seemed to take an excessive number of key presses to accomplish this. 

Also, after I painstakingly setup all the partitions to erase and use, the right partition type (same one it was already formatted at, but i needed to reselect!), and the right mountpoint, I selected the Setup LVM menu option. This worked very nicely (very simple setup, NICE!), but then the installer took  me back to the partitioner menu (with the added LVM partition) and it had forgotten all the stuff i had just entered!

But, overall *VERY* impressed with the ease of install. I did essentially the same install with the old debian installer about 7 months ago, and it was much more painful, consisting of manual LVM setup, among other issues.

Re: Location list proposal [was: why must Debian call Taiwan a Province of China?]

2004-04-08 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Christian Perrier wrote:

 Quoting Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
 Please, we should be moving away from including countries at all on the
 language chooser screen.  I think the current mix of languages and
 languages+countries on the first screen is very distracting already, and
 wastes space in the menu.
 
 Well, reducing the languagechooser screen was one of the ideas behind
 countrychooser if you remember.
 
 However, after several discussions, the current compromise was made with
 some double choices:
 
 -English (USA)
 -English (Great-Britain)
 -English (other countries)
 .../...
 
 This allows people with the most often used countries to choose
 their country in one keystroke, while others still have the choice of
 getting the locale they may want to have.
 
 For details about how this works, readers of this thread can go back
 in -boot archives for January of February 2004.
 
 There alredy, the Chinese language needed a special treatment because
 of the way the two written forms are coded: zh-CN and zh_TW.which
 uses a country information for indicating the differences between the
 two written form of the language.
I'd advise Portuguese (Brazilian) and Portuguese (Portuguese) on the
languagechooser screen as well, because they're really rather different
(they even teach them in separate classes over here), despite using only
a country code to distinguish between the two.  Maybe this is already being
done.  ;-)

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Re: timeline for beta 4

2004-04-08 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 08:55:55PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:

 Of our errata for beta 3, the following are still problems to be best of
 my knowledge, and need to be fixed soon:

 - alpha cannot install from SCSI cdrom

This kernel bug has been located, and I understand a fixed kernel
package is pending.

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Bug#242782: languagechooser: Give more hints about the way to navigate in the list

2004-04-08 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Christian Perrier wrote:

 In the meantime, at least for the languagechooser screen, a very short
 hint would help.
 
 I propose
 
 Description: Choose a language
  The language may be chosen by scrolling down this list with Up/Down keys
   s/down/through/   s,with Up/Down,with the Up Arrow and Down Arrow,
  and hitting Enter on the one fitting your language. Only the first
  s/hitting/pressing/ s/fitting/matching/ s/first/first few/
  entries are currently shown. Please scroll with the Down arrow for seeing
   s/Please scroll/Scroll/s/for seeing/to see/
  more entries.

Here's some English language template polishing in the form of sed 
replacements.  The s/for seeing/to see/ is mandatory (for seeing is 
incorrect here); the rest is just polishing.


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Bug#242659: d-i errors on alpha

2004-04-08 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi maks,

Thanks for testing.

On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 09:11:46PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
 1) the cd from whom aboot booted the debian system was not recognised:

 cat /proc/scsi/scsi
 Attached devices:
 Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00
   Vendor: DEC Model: RRD47(C) DEC Rev: 1206
   Type:   CD-ROM  ANSI SCSI revision: 02

 mount /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target5/lun0/cd /cdrom

This is bug #237884, which is awaiting upload of a fixed kernel.

 2) base system install aborted with following message on console 3:

   trying to overwrite /etc/default/devpts which is also in packages 
   initscripts .. errors where encountered while processing .*libc6

This is bug #238963, which is awaiting a glibc upload.

 3) at this stage i strongly missed a menu-entry for aboot at d-i!!

(!)  I'll have to take a look at this; last I was able to test, aboot
showed up right where it was supposed to in the menu, you just can't get
it to run from the menu unless the base install has completed
successfully.

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Re: [i18n] String Changes in iso-codes

2004-04-08 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 06:40:50AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
  Assuming we fix the problems regarding the translation of
  languagechooser's short list, would it be possible to provide selective
  English translations of the iso-codes table?  This would let us fix the
  expansion of TW without having to abandon the use of the (very handy)
  iso 3166 table.

 Well, no that would not be solve the issue unless we find a way to
 translate the short list shown by countrychooser.

Which is why I stipulated, assuming we fix the problems regarding the
translation of languagechooser's short list.  Since this is an
important bug to be fixed anyway, *and* appears to provide a fix for the
Taiwan naming issue (in all languages) without editorializing the
iso-codes package, I'm going to look at trying to make this work.

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Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-08 Thread Rick Thomas
Malte,

Errors like that are usually symptomatic of a dirty/dusty floppy drive.

In particular, if the boot floppy is ejected, it means that the 
firmware got an error trying to read it, or couldn't find the magic 
numbers in the magic places that it was expecting from a real-live 
Macintosh boot floppy.

Buy and use a floppy drive cleaning kit (a bottle of isopropanol 
and a floppy-like thing with a non-abrasive fibrous disk in place 
of the usual shiny oxide coated disk).  Don't be afraid to use it 
couple of times if you continue to have problems after the first 
cleaning.  You shouldn't need more than two or three cleanings, 
though.

You should clean *both* the drive you will be writing the disk on, 
and the one you will be reading it on.

Also, buy a box of new floppies.  Don't use floppys that have been 
sitting around the house for a few years.  They accumulate dust 
over time and the oxide deteriorates.

Finally, when you write the image to disk, always read it back to 
make sure you have a good copy.  If you didn't get a good copy, 
throw away that floppy disk and use a different one.

Thus:

dd if=boot.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024
sync
cmp /dev/fd0 boot.img
Enjoy!

Rick

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Re: 2.6

2004-04-08 Thread Bastian Blank
On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 09:47:24PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
   If we can't get around
 this busybox behavior, then the hack of overwriting busybox's modprobe
 won't work, and we'll need to either fix busybox to support 2.6 itself
 (yes please!) 

The code for insmod and rmmod is available, it needs to be merged.
depmod is a debian addon anyway and needs to be ported.

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