Re: String freeze 20. to 24. of July

2004-07-19 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Dennis Stampfer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 hehe, yes :P
 
 Well, we have strings in choose-mirror like BY, CA, CH which the
 translators have to translate in their language. The English
 translators write Belarus, Canada, Switzerland... and thats the
 10% :)

I have plans for making this disappear. Look at currently commented
code in debian/rules for choose-mirror.

Because this is quite an invasive change, this is unlikely to make it
in the next release. The scripts probably need some code cleanup. They
are already in the trunk but unused...so, if someone is good at
cleaning badly written shell script code, (s)he's welcome to clean out
those.




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Bug#260140: ddetect: Should avoid asking PCMCIA questions several times

2004-07-19 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Christian Perrier wrote:
  When doing the installation at medium or low priority, the questions about
  PCMCIA being started or not and PCMCIA address range are asked up to 3 times
  (at CD detection phase, network hardware detection phase, and hard disk
  detection phase).
  
  I suggest keeping track of the previous answers and the seen status of the
  questions so that they're not asked mor ethan once (unless of course there
  is a special reasons for boring our users with them:-)).
 
 If you want to fix this, test the patch for cdebconf bug #257180 and
 back out my change to ddetect 0.103.

I will probably be unable to really test this as suggested. Anyway,
this is probably a post-release issue. I just wanted to record this
remark while I was away.




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Minutes of Debian Installer IRC meeting of 20040717

2004-07-19 Thread Anibal Monsalve Salazar
Minutes of Debian Installer IRC Meeting of 2004.07.17.2000

Dates and times are UTC-referenced.

Venue: #debian-boot at irc.debian.org

Meeting started at 20:00.

There were 107 IRC nicknames present at the start time.

The following people provided input to the meeting:
(a few names are missing as I cannot retrieve them currently)

 anibal Anibal Monsalve Salazar
 anton  Anton Zinoviev
 AstinusUK  Alex Howells
 bdale  Bdale Garbee
 Bill_Jennings  Bill Jennings
 Dr_O
 fs Frederik Schueler
 GyrosGeier Simon Richter
 huhlig Hans W. Uhlig
 joeyh  Joey Hess
 joshk  Joshua Kwan
 kmuto  Kenshi Muto
 kyllikki   Vincent
 lieb   Jim Lieb
 luther Sven Luther
 maswan Mattias Wadenstein
 Md Marco d'Itri
 mellum Falk Hueffner
 Mithrandir Tollef Fog Heen
 Q_ Kurt Roeckx
 seppy  Dennis Stampfer
 SimonRichter   Simon Richter
 SvenLuther Sven Luther
 vorlon Steve Langasek
 waldi  Bastian Blank

Apologies:

 aj Anthony Towns
 bubulleChristian Perrier
 calc   Chris Cheney
 cjwatson   Colin Watson
 dannf  Dan Frazier
 doogie Adam Heath
 dsilvers   Daniel Silverstone
 gaudenzGaudezn Steiling
 fjpFrans Pop
 jbaileyJeff Bailey
 manti
 mckinstry  Alastair McKinstry
 pere   Petter Reinholdtsel
 tbmMartin Michlmayr
 thsThiemo Seufer
 zboob

Moderator:

 anibal Anibal Monsalve Salazar

Discussion topics at:

 http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?DebianInstallerMeetings

Meeting log:
(please refer to the log to check who said what)

 http://people.debian.org/~joshk/d-i_meeting_20040717.log


Next Release Date
=

joeyh suggested the end of the current month as next release date.
There was no objection.

Everybody would like to support 2.6 kernels. However there are some
issues preventing that:

* 2.4 is the only thing viable on sparc32 
* US and Amiga seem to have issues with 2.6 as well
* ia64 boot with 2.6 not ready yet 
* alpha won't be on 2.6 until until there's some sign of the PCI fixes
  making it into the kernel-images

String Freeze
=

A string freeze on general principle, so that people don't go changing
strings *after* everybody thinks they've got it all translated. There
are many of translated but un-uploaded strings.

To release by the end of the month, joeyh suggested a string freeze
starting in the next few days. There were no objections.

seppy will send the announcement to the translators.

Architecture Status
===

alpha
-

vorlon said that alpha is in pretty solid shape; the two big
outstanding issues for them are that automatic partitioning doesn't
yet account for the space aboot needs, and that 2.4 kernel images in
the archive are still in need of a major PCI fix. He estimates that 
it affects close to 1/4 of the alpha hardware. 2.6 hasn't been tried
yet.

amd64
-

Q_ said that amd64 currently doesn't have a netinst image. He has been
trying to get it working without much success. joeyh suggested Q_ to
talk to manty.

Q_ also said that they've also had some problems with changes in sid
base. It seems to work for some people while others say it failed
without much detail about why it failed. Some of those failures are
explained by sid base breakage because we only have sid.

arm
---

kyllikki confirmed that there are no changes since last week when it
was reported in good shape.

hppa


jbailey has a hppa, and was hoping to test.

bdale and AstinusUK offered to test hppa.

i386


joeyh reported that it seems to be in good shape. He also noted that
the lowmem patch has bugs, and doesn't know if zboob will get it fixed
in time.

ia64


lieb reported that they would like to get ia64 boot + 2.6 done before
final release. He also said that ia64 efi partman patches were submitted
this week. He's also re-writing the ia64 portions of the install manual.

m68k


joeyh has got confirmation that the genext2fs bug is still there. Also,
Florian Lohoff posted to -boot and reported the ext filesystem error
problem on boot.

Simon Richter will look after m68k/Amiga a bit.

mips,mipsl
--

joeyh said that someone reported on the list that the lowmem problem
with mips seems to not be a problem now.

powerpc
---

SvenLuther said that Powerpc is in pretty good shape. The real problem
is that we really want 2.6 to be the default kernel on it, and this is
right now problematic.

He also said that he would make the 2.6 kernel the default, and have 2.4
as fallback (linux24). joeyh noted that at a minimum, he'll need to
offer both, joeyh can't see dropping 2.4 with 2.6 as of yet unproven.

SimonRichter APUS status: 2.4 doesn't boot, 2.6 doesn't build. However,
both seem trivial. His plan is to get both issues fixed by tuesday.

s390


joeyh reported waldi and athornton are 

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Bug#260185: install-reports: [usb] success for ThinkPad X22

2004-07-19 Thread Chong-Dae Park
Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: Debian-installer daily snapshot for USB media with netinst 
ISO image
* http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/daily/hd-media/boot.img.gz (2004-07-16)
* 
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/current/sarge-i386-netinst.iso
 (2004-07-15)

uname -a: Linux cdpark 2.4.26-1-386 #2 Sat May 1 16:31:24 EST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux
Date: Saturday, July 17, 2004
Method: Using USB stick with netinst ISO image

Machine: IBM ThinkPad X22
Processor: Pentium III Mobile 800 MHz
Memory: 640 MB
Root Device: IDE. /dev/hda6
Root Size/partition table:
* Root: /dev/hda6 : 3 GB (ext3 filesystem)
* Swap: /dev/hda7 : 316MB
* Result of fdisk -l /dev/hda
Disk /dev/hda: 30.0 GB, 30005821440 bytes
240 heads, 63 sectors/track, 3876 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 15120 * 512 = 7741440 bytes

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *   11084 8195008+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda21085371319875240f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hda337143875 1224720   1c  Hidden W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/hda51085325116382488+   b  W95 FAT32
/dev/hda6   *32523664 3122248+  83  Linux
/dev/hda736653713  370408+  82  Linux swap

Output of lspci and lspci -n:
:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82830 830 Chipset Host Bridge (rev 02)
:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82830 830 Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 02)
:00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 01)
:00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 01)
:00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #3) (rev 01)
:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BAM/CAM PCI Bridge (rev 41)
:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801CAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 01)
:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801CAM IDE U100 (rev 01)
:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM SMBus Controller (rev 01)
:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio 
Controller (rev 01)
:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
:02:03.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev a8)
:02:03.1 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev a8)
:02:03.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C552 IEEE 1394 Controller
:02:05.0 Communication controller: Lucent Microelectronics WinModem 56k (rev 01)
:02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82801CAM (ICH3) PRO/100 VE (LOM) 
Ethernet Controller (rev 41)

:00:00.0 Class 0600: 8086:3575 (rev 02)
:00:01.0 Class 0604: 8086:3576 (rev 02)
:00:1d.0 Class 0c03: 8086:2482 (rev 01)
:00:1d.1 Class 0c03: 8086:2484 (rev 01)
:00:1d.2 Class 0c03: 8086:2487 (rev 01)
:00:1e.0 Class 0604: 8086:2448 (rev 41)
:00:1f.0 Class 0601: 8086:248c (rev 01)
:00:1f.1 Class 0101: 8086:248a (rev 01)
:00:1f.3 Class 0c05: 8086:2483 (rev 01)
:00:1f.5 Class 0401: 8086:2485 (rev 01)
:01:00.0 Class 0300: 1002:4c59
:02:03.0 Class 0607: 1180:0476 (rev a8)
:02:03.1 Class 0607: 1180:0476 (rev a8)
:02:03.2 Class 0c00: 1180:0552
:02:05.0 Class 0780: 11c1:0449 (rev 01)
:02:08.0 Class 0200: 8086:1031 (rev 41)

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]

Comments/Problems:
 I can install without any problems. Good job!

 FYI: When I install using USB stick with hd-media in TC1 image,
  it failed in the Detecd CD step.
  This problem is resolved in the daily snapshot.


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Re: String freeze 20. to 24. of July

2004-07-19 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 11:31:53PM +0200, Dennis Stampfer wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 01:09:23PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
  I'm afraid that I'm currently working on dropping everyone down to 99%.
  I've added several new templates to aboot-installer in the last 24
  hours, and am about to commit some changes to a couple of others.  I
  promise I'll be done by the deadline for the string freeze. ;)

 hmm, imagine this at debconf: People would throw things at you... :)

 Remember: Please be kind to translators.

Hey, I am being kind to translators -- that's why I asked for the string
freeze to start 1 day earlier, to keep people like me from messing
things up. ;)

Anyway, all the aboot-installer template changes are in now -- with
fewer than expected -- and already 18 teams have committed updates.
Very efficient group we have here. :)

Cheers,
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Re: Minutes of Debian Installer IRC meeting of 20040717

2004-07-19 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 05:47:34PM +1000, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
 * 2.4 is the only thing viable on sparc32 
 * US and Amiga seem to have issues with 2.6 as well
 * ia64 boot with 2.6 not ready yet 
 * alpha won't be on 2.6 until until there's some sign of the PCI fixes
   making it into the kernel-images

Update: the PCI fixes are reported to be in kernel-source-2.6.7, but no
kernel-images are available on alpha yet that build from this source.

 vorlon said that alpha is in pretty solid shape; the two big
 outstanding issues for them are that automatic partitioning doesn't
 yet account for the space aboot needs, and that 2.4 kernel images in
 the archive are still in need of a major PCI fix. He estimates that 
 it affects close to 1/4 of the alpha hardware. 2.6 hasn't been tried
 yet.

An updated aboot-installer has been uploaded to the archive this
evening.  I've pounded on this a fair amount over the weekend, so I
believe it's ready for sarge immediately.  This should mostly address
the aboot space issue; in addition, I need to commit some alpha-specific
partman-auto recipes to go with it.

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Package: installation-reports
Severity: normal

Machine: Sun UltraSparc IIi
Processor: TI UltraSparc IIi (Sabre) - sun4u
Memory: 128 MB

Output of lspci:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. Ultra IIi
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. Simba Advanced PCI Bridge (rev 13)
00:01.1 PCI bridge: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. Simba Advanced PCI Bridge (rev 13)
01:01.0 Bridge: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. EBUS (rev 01)
01:01.1 Ethernet controller: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. Happy Meal (rev 01)
01:02.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro 215GP (rev 5c)
01:03.0 IDE interface: CMD Technology Inc PCI0646 (rev 03)


Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[E]
Configure network HW:   [ ]
Config network: [ ]
Detect CD:  [ ]
Load installer modules: [ ]
Detect hard drives: [ ]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:[ ]
Mount partitions:   [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

After booting from the sarge BusinessCard CD from 21/03/2004, I had 
this message on the console:
VFS: Cannot open root device  or 00:00
Please append a correct root= boot option
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 00:00

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20040718 i386 sid_d-i netinst 2.4 nearly OK (fr_FR)

2004-07-19 Thread Christian Perrier
Environment: VmWare
Platform   : i386
Kernel : 2.4
Locale : fr_FR
Image  : netinst sid_d-i 20040712
Priority   : high

Result : Nearly OK. Maybe one issue with keyboard in 2nd stage
 Probably because of buggy console-* package in testing
 GRUB broken (known problem)
 Using LILO is fine and allowed me spotting one nasty
 typo in templates translation



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Re: Console-common basque tanslation strange situation

2004-07-19 Thread Eugeniy Meshcheryakov
Christian Perrier :
 Quoting ^pi^ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
Hi:

I saw in tanslation-status page the basque translation to console-common have a 
fuzzy string, but when I downloade the console-common svn (svn co 
svn://svn.debian.org/console-common console-common) in the file isnt any fuzzy 
string :?

If I look the web file 
(http://people.debian.org/~seppy/d-i/2nd-stage/files/eu/console-common_po_eu.po) the 
third string was fuzzy but no in the svn.


I dont update the file time ago, the last bug (#244675) was closed in 11 May 2004


Can any help me ?
 
 
 A msgmerge is probably needed. Doing it.
 

Also install-keymap.pot contains strings that I cannot find in any file:
Warning: cannot access console;
 deferring until console is accessible.

and I do not know how to regenerate it.


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Re: Console-common basque tanslation strange situation

2004-07-19 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Eugeniy Meshcheryakov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 Also install-keymap.pot contains strings that I cannot find in any file:
 Warning: cannot access console;
  deferring until console is accessible.
 
 and I do not know how to regenerate it.

I have also noted that I can't regenerate it...:-(

I suggest you report this to console-common (but Alastair is away
until July 24th)

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Re: Booting installer on RS/6000 43p-140

2004-07-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 11:50:39AM +1000, Anton Blanchard wrote:
 FYI to cover most RS6000/pseries boxes:

Status for linux-kernel-di-powerpc-2.6:

 Ethernet:   pcnet32,

Already in nic-modules.

 acenic,

Apparently not built.

 3com vortex, e100, e1000, tg3

Already in nic-modules.

 Token Ring: olympic

In nic-extra-modules. Should it be moved to nic-modules so that it's in
the initrd? I know very little about Token Ring support.

 SCSI:   sym2, IPR (I think its only in 2.6 unfortunately)

Already in scsi-modules.

 IDE:AMD74XX

Apparently not built.

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Bug#260217: [INTL:de] Updated po-file for german

2004-07-19 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Package: discover1
Version: 1.6.4
Severity: minor
Tags: l10n patch


Hello,
I corrected some errors in the german PO file. The new version is
attached.

Greetings

 Helge
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#Translators, if you are not familiar with the PO format, gettext
#documentation is worth reading, especially sections dedicated to
#this format, e.g. by running:
# info -n '(gettext)PO Files'
# info -n '(gettext)Header Entry'
#
#Some information specific to po-debconf are available at
#/usr/share/doc/po-debconf/README-trans
# or http://www.debian.org/intl/l10n/po-debconf/README-trans
#
#Developers do not need to manually edit POT or PO files.
#Dennis Stampfer [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2004.
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msgid 
msgstr 
Project-Id-Version: discover\n
Report-Msgid-Bugs-To: \n
POT-Creation-Date: 2004-05-04 14:13+0200\n
PO-Revision-Date: 2004-07-18+0200T\n
Last-Translator: Helge Kreutzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]\n
Language-Team: Debian German [EMAIL PROTECTED]\n
MIME-Version: 1.0\n
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n
X-Generator: KBabel 0.9.5\n

#. Type: boolean
#. Description
#: ../discover1.templates:4
msgid Manage CD-ROM devices and mount points with discover?
msgstr CD-ROM Geräte und Einhängepunkte mit discover verwalten?

#. Type: boolean
#. Description
#: ../discover1.templates:4
msgid 
The \discover\ program can automatically manage the /dev/cdrom* symbolic 
links and device mount points, if you desire.  The available CD-ROM (and 
compatible) devices are scanned at boot-time and these links and mount 
points can be automatically updated.
msgstr 
Wenn Sie möchten, kann das Programm »discover« automatisch symbolischen 
Links und Einhängepunkte für /dev/cdrom*-Geräte verwalten. Die vorhandenen 
CD-ROM Laufwerke werden während des Bootvorgangs abgesucht und damit 
verknüpfte symbolische Links sowie Einhängepunkte aktualisiert.

#. Type: boolean
#. Description
#: ../discover1.templates:4
msgid 
If you enable this option, discover will link /dev/cdrom to /dev/cdrom0 for 
convenience.
msgstr 
Wenn Sie diese Option benutzen, wird discover /dev/cdrom mit /dev/cdrom0 zur 
einfacheren Benutzung verknüpfen.

#. Type: boolean
#. Description
#: ../discover1.templates:4
msgid 
If you don't want discover to manage the device symbolic links and mount 
points for you, decline this option.
msgstr 
Wenn Sie nicht möchten, dass discover die Einhängepunkte und die 
symbolischen Links für Sie verwaltet, benutzen Sie diese Option bitte nicht.

#. Type: string
#. Description
#: ../discover1.templates:19
msgid Directory for CD-ROM device mount points:
msgstr Verzeichnis für die CD-ROM Einhängepunkte:

#. Type: string
#. Description
#: ../discover1.templates:19
msgid 
Mounted filesystems accessible via CD-ROM (or compatible) devices can be 
placed just about anywhere in the filesystem hierarchy, but the standard 
says they should be placed in /media, so that they are available as, e.g., 
\/media/cdrom0\, \/media/cdrom1\, and so forth.
msgstr 
Eingebundene Dateisysteme, auf die über CD-ROM (oder dazu kompatibel 
Geräte) zugegriffen werden kann, können überall in der Verzeichnisstruktur 
eingebunden werden. Jedoch werden Sie dem Standard nach in /media 
eingebunden. Sie sind dann z.B. über »/media/cdrom0«, »/media/cdrom1« usw. 
erreichbar.

#. Type: string
#. Description
#: ../discover1.templates:19
msgid 
Note that discover will link the \cdrom\ mount point to the \cdrom0\ 
mount point for convenience.
msgstr 
Beachten Sie, dass discover »cdrom« zur einfacheren Benutzung mit »$cdrom0
« verknüpft.

#. Type: string
#. Description
#: ../discover1.templates:19
msgid 
To stay compatible with earlier versions of discover the path entered here 
should end with a / (eg. /media/).
msgstr 
Um zu älteren Versionen von Discover kompatibel zu sein, sollte der 
eingegebene Pfad mit einem / enden (z.B. /media/).

#. Type: note
#. Description
#: ../discover1.templates:33
msgid Invalid path for mount point
msgstr Ungültiger Pfad für einen Einhängepunkt

#. Type: note
#. Description
#: ../discover1.templates:33
msgid You entered an invalid path as CD-ROM devices mount point.
msgstr 
Sie haben einen ungültigen Pfad als Einhängepunkt für Ihr CD-ROM-Laufwerk 
angegeben.

#. Type: note
#. Description
#: ../discover1.templates:33
msgid 
The base filesystem mount point for CD-ROM drives must be an absolute path 
(begin with \/\) and must not be null.  If the path does not exist, it 
will be created when needed.
msgstr 
Der Einhägepunkt für CD-ROM-Laufwerke muss ein absoluter Pfad (beginnend 
mit »/«) und nicht leer sein.  Ist der Pfad nicht vorhanden, wird er 
erzeugt wenn er benötigt wird.


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Bug#254830: Please include firewire for network installs

2004-07-19 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello,
On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 10:40:18AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
 The ohci1394 module should be loaded if discover1 finds and recognises
 your firewire controller on the PCI bus. If it doesn't, send us lspci
 and lspci -n output, and we can fix discover1.

Here is what discover1 loads for Firewire:

Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
ehci-hcd   25704   0  (unused)
usb-ohci   24136   0  (unused)

and this is what discover2 loads:

Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
usb-ohci   24136   0  (unused)

So I manually have to load (by using /etc/modules) eth1394 and
ohci1394. This is on my alpha/2.4.26. I can also check my ibook (ppc)
with discover{1|2} and 2.{4|6} if that makes sense (but I vaguely
remember it to be the same there).

 I'm not sure what is needed to determine there is a firewire ethernet
 interface and load eth1394. We could simply always try to load this
 module if ohci1394 is loaded, similar to how we always load sbp2 for
 firewire CDs. Any info you can provide about how to probe if a firewire
 ethernet is there would be useful.

I think always loading is the only possible way. By checking the
proper file in /proc you can of course test if a cable is inserted at
all (i.e. a peer is present). At least in 2.4 this works fine (2.4
Ethernet-Over-Firewire is incompatibel with the 2.6 version,
unfortunately, hence I only tested the 2.4-version).

Hope this helps.

Greetings

  Helge



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Re: Suggestion for choose-mirror

2004-07-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 06:26:20AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
 Colin Watson wrote:
 Since d-i uses debconf, most questions are pre-answerable like this.
 
 Where are the Qs and As documented?

Unfortunately I suspect the answer right now might be the source code;
look for templates files. (Alternatively, look through
/var/lib/cdebconf/ in a running d-i.) This should go in the manual, if
it isn't there already.

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Re: powerpc status and missing 2.6.7 .udebs and .debs in sarge.

2004-07-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 10:11:56AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
 And businesscard failed because of some stupid kernel-image postinst
 warning about overwriting the modules. I guess it may well be a bug of
 RC status that kernel-package doesn't provide debconfified
 pre/postinst/rm scripts.

Wearing my release assistant hat: no, this is not release-critical. See
http://release.debian.org/sarge_rc_policy.txt.

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Re: Booting installer on RS/6000 43p-140

2004-07-19 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello,
On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 11:28:46AM +0900, Jerome Walter wrote:
 Helge, did you have had more success than me on your RS/6000 ? If i 
 succeed in installing Debian on this machine, i will have another PPC 
 (don't know what's inside) to install, more RS/6000-like, so all the 
 feedbacks are welcome.

I am now able to use open firmware, so I can set various variables
and get the kernel from the tftp-server. But nothing besides it. Also
my machine claims to be a CHRP, not a prep. Well. Do you know how to
set the flags for the kernel, i.e. console=ttyS0,9600 ? Right now, I
am unable to pass them. I read, that 

setenv boot-file flags

would do this (i.e., flags=console=ttyS0,9600) but this variable
gets overridden during the tftp-transmission. 

So the status is in essence: Same as before, but from OF.

When I find time, I continue trying.

Greetings

  Helge




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Re: timeline for next release

2004-07-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 12:56:36PM +0900, Kenshi Muto wrote:
 Release managers, could you show all of us a plan of Sarge release?
 I saw http://release.debian.org/sarge.html, but it looks internal
 document or draft, not official statement.

I've been away for the weekend and am still catching up on vast volumes
of e-mail as well as needing to do some paid work :-), but I've asked
Steve if we can agree a time to sit down for an hour or two and bash out
a plan.

Informally, I think the 31 July release of d-i should be very close to
the last release for sarge, with the only changes before release being
small, non-invasive tweaks for high-severity bugs.

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Bug#260217: [INTL:de] Updated po-file for german

2004-07-19 Thread Dennis Stampfer
tags 260217 + pending
thanks

On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 01:46:32PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
 I corrected some errors in the german PO file. The new version is
 attached.

Thank you. Commited to CVS.

dennis


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Bug#260154: PowerMac G3 (beige) sarge d-i Installation Report

2004-07-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 10:53:00PM +0100, Clive Menzies wrote:
   Install boot loader:[ ] No boot loader installed (using
   Bootx to boot)

Glad to hear things largely went well. Is there any chance that you
could test quik-installer, to see if it works?

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Problem installing debian on large disk with sarge installer

2004-07-19 Thread Sara Falamaki
I tried installing debian on a 160Gb disk recently.  I had problems
partitioning it, and I've detailed them at the following url:
http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~saraf/debian-install.html

Could you please look into this?  I suspect this can potentially
cause a lot of data loss if attempted on a disk that's not new.

Thanks,

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Re: Suggestion for choose-mirror

2004-07-19 Thread John Summerfield
Colin Watson wrote:
On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 06:26:20AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
 

Colin Watson wrote:
   

Since d-i uses debconf, most questions are pre-answerable like this.
 

Where are the Qs and As documented?
   

Unfortunately I suspect the answer right now might be the source code;
look for templates files. (Alternatively, look through
/var/lib/cdebconf/ in a running d-i.) This should go in the manual, if
it isn't there already.
 

Oh yuk!
I found a spare box and netbooted it: di-barfed on my proxy (haven't 
bothered with why yet) which I specified in my PXE config.

If I understand this right, if I put all the right stuff into the 
environment, then d-i will install the system I want?

It's pretty cleat that I can't put them all in through PXE - the kernel 
just panicked because I already said too much:
label 26
   kernel images/sarge-2.6/vmlinuz
   append initrd=images/sarge-2.6/initrd.gz vga=6 devfs=mount 
root=/dev/ram initrd_size=2 mirror/country=au mirror/protocol=http 
mirror/http/hostname=debian.test.lan 
mirror/http/proxy=http://192.168.9.4:3128/

wretched bootloaders: today I was grubbing a sick machine , typing stuff 
on the initrd line and wondering
a. Why it didn't work
b. Why I thought it would.

I'm only guessing with my answers. Am I right so far? If I can get all 
the answers into environment vars in this fashion, is it going to work?


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Bug#260225: Sarge installer not recognising partition table for disk larger than 137GB

2004-07-19 Thread Sara Falamaki
package: installation-reports
Debian-installer-version: 
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sid_d-i/i386/20040718/sarge-i386-netinst.iso
uname -a: Linux swish 2.4.26-1-386 #2 Sat May 1 16:31:24 EST 2004
i686 unkown
Date: Mon Jul 19 22:29:13 EST 2004
Method: downloaded image from above website, and ran the installer
Machine: desktop 
Processor: athlonXP 1.6Ghz
Memory: 256Mb
Root Device: IDE seagate (x2)
Root Size/partition table:  see description

-ommited check boxes-

I have detailed my problem at:
http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~saraf/debian-install.html

I'll paste it below for your convenience:

 Problems with the debian (sarge) installer

 I have a new 160Gb hard disk. I wanted to put debian on the first
 20GB of it (8GB /home, 12GB /), and have the rest as a big fat32
 partition for backup purposes. I first tried using the sarge
 installer, and found it couldn't see more than 137GB of my 160GB
 drive, but I went ahead and partitioned anyway. I finished the base
 install, putting grub in (hd1,0).

 I have another disk in the computer which has FreeBSD and
 windows-XP on it. The FreeBSD loader was unable to boot from
 (hd1,0). It told me to PRESS ANY KEY TO REBOOT when i choose that
 disk.

 I thought I'd start the process again, this time putting grub in
 the MBR of hd1. Before I did so, I booted into windows, and had a
 look at the partition table. It was as the debian installer had
 made it. I took the opportunity to format the 20GB at the end of
 the disk as a fat32 partition. I then rebooted, and inserted the
 sarge installer disk again.

 When I got to the partitioning section of the install process
 again, I noticed that the installer couldn't read my partition
 table at all. It just showed a 137Gb disk that was all Free Space.
 To verify things, I booted into windows again, and the partition
 table was fine. This is where I'm at now. 



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Bug#260227: countrychooser: console-cyrillic always installs AT keymaps

2004-07-19 Thread Eugeniy Meshcheryakov
Package: countrychooser, console-cyrillic
Version: SVN
Severity: important

  Languagechooser currently uses console-cyrillic package to set up
Cyrillic fonts and keymaps for several languages. The problem is that
this package contains only AT keymaps and will always install them, even
on architectures with different keyboards. It will make installation on
some archs (PPC for example) problematic (but cannot test that).

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.4.26
Locale: LANG=uk_UA, LC_CTYPE=uk_UA


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Re: m68k install daily build broken ?

2004-07-19 Thread Stephen R Marenka
On Sat, Jul 17, 2004 at 06:31:11PM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 17, 2004 at 05:33:57PM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote:
  Hi,
  i tried to install on a Qudra 840av and basically it doesnt work how i
  try it. There is a complete lack of documentation on how to unstuff the
  .sit files - The documentations merely mentions the existance of
  penguin.

I haven't even gotten to look at the documentation yet, so as far as I
know, there has been no updates to the m68k documentation for d-i.
Sorry.

  Though in the install/mac folder there are 2 penguin versions (18 and
  19) and at least 4 initrds. Additionally there are root and root22
  in the parent directory but no documentation on when to use what.

I gather that you're using one of the cdrom images? It would be nice to
no exactly what image you're using.

 Now i have ran penguin with linux-mac-2.2.5 with the
 initrd-linuxmedia.gz. 

Where did you get initrd-linuxmedia.gz from?

If you're using a cdrom and a mac, then root22 should be the right image
(22 for 2.2 kernel).

 Bugs are in chronologic order
 
  - EXT3-fs error - Wrong free blocks / bitmap .. after mount of ramdisk
  - umount /initrd/dev no such file or directory
  - umount /initrd invalid argument
  - languagechooser shows chars not displayable (utf8)
  - hang in archdetect - Last line in logfile on tty4
 
   DEBUG: configure archdetect, status: 2

Okay, that's potentially worrisome. Can you tell me exactly what image
you're using so I can try to reproduce it?

Thanks,

Stephen

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Re: Minutes of Debian Installer IRC meeting of 20040717

2004-07-19 Thread Stephen R Marenka
On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 05:47:34PM +1000, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote:

 Simon Richter will look after m68k/Amiga a bit.

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Bug#260233: tasksel: incorrect description of th japanese-desktop task

2004-07-19 Thread Eugeniy Meshcheryakov
Package: tasksel
Version: 2.06
Severity: normal

  Description of the japanese-desktop is Japanese environment, should
be Japanese desktop. 

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.4.26
Locale: LANG=uk_UA, LC_CTYPE=uk_UA

Versions of packages tasksel depends on:
ii  aptitude  0.2.15.2-1 curses-based apt frontend
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.4.29 Debian configuration management sy
ii  liblocale-gettext-perl1.01-17Using libc functions for internati

-- debconf information excluded


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Re: [D-I Manual] No autobuilds until August 8

2004-07-19 Thread Pierre Machard
Hi,

On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 10:29:32PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Sunday 18 July 2004 19:58, Joey Hess wrote:
  At this weekend's meeting[1] we decided to try to make a release by the
  end of this month. Here is a timeline for the release.
 
 I'm afraid I won't be able to do any testing on this release as
 I'm leaving on holiday on Wednesday (sailing the Irish Sea, no Internet
 connection there, sorry ;-)

Don't be afraid to go on holiday :)

 I will also have to shut down my servers during my holiday, which
 means there will be no autobuilds of the manual.
 
 Manual builds (using the scripts in SVN) and manual uploads are of course
 possible during my absence.

I can cope with it. 

could you please send me your script please ?

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Bug#260227: countrychooser: console-cyrillic always installs AT keymaps

2004-07-19 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Eugeniy Meshcheryakov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Package: countrychooser, console-cyrillic
 Version: SVN
 Severity: important
 
   Languagechooser currently uses console-cyrillic package to set up

Uh, why assign this to countrychooser, then ? :-)

Except if there's a reason I'm missing, I think this needs to be
reassigned to languagechooser, console-cyrillic and probably more to
console-cyrillic with Please also provide non-AT keymaps




Bug#260225: Sarge installer not recognising partition table for disk larger than 137GB

2004-07-19 Thread Christian Perrier
 I'll paste it below for your convenience:
 
  Problems with the debian (sarge) installer

For the record, after the IRC talk we had : this was reproducible on
20040718 sid_d-i image

I have asked Sara to try reproducing with a 2.6 install.





Bug#260250: tasksel: Some tasls reference invalid or non-free packages

2004-07-19 Thread Christian Perrier
Package: tasksel
Version: 2.04
Severity: minor

While building tasksel:

chinese-s: doc-linux-zh-s is not a valid package.
chinese-s: gs-cjk-resource is in non-free.
chinese-s: cmap-adobe-gb1 is in non-free.
chinese-t: gs-cjk-resource is in non-free.
chinese-t: cmap-adobe-cns1 is in non-free.
chinese-t: cedictb5 is not a valid package.
italian-desktop: openoffice.org-hyphenation-it is in contrib.
thai-desktop: kde-i18n-th is not a valid package.


-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.7-1-686
Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (ignored: LC_ALL set to fr_FR.UTF-8)

Versions of packages tasksel depends on:
ii  aptitude  0.2.15.2-1 curses-based apt frontend
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.4.29 Debian configuration management sy
ii  liblocale-gettext-perl1.01-17Using libc functions for internati

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Re: powerpc status and missing 2.6.7 .udebs and .debs in sarge.

2004-07-19 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 01:13:47PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 10:11:56AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
  And businesscard failed because of some stupid kernel-image postinst
  warning about overwriting the modules. I guess it may well be a bug of
  RC status that kernel-package doesn't provide debconfified
  pre/postinst/rm scripts.
 
 Wearing my release assistant hat: no, this is not release-critical. See

Well, it will be fixed by tomorrow i think, since mkvmlinuz 5 was only in
sarge, and kernel-image conflict with mkvmlinuz  7, it did desinstall it
again, and thus base-installer failed when trying to execute non-installed
mkvmlinuz :/

Still having a non-debconfified kernel-image postinst is a pain.

 http://release.debian.org/sarge_rc_policy.txt.

The requested URL /sarge_rc_policy.txt. was not found on this server. 

Mmm.

Friendly,

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Re: timeline for next release

2004-07-19 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 06:57:43PM +0900, Kenshi Muto wrote:
 At 19 Jul 04 05:41:01 GMT,
 Sven Luther wrote:
  On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 12:56:36PM +0900, Kenshi Muto wrote:
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   Hi,
   
   We, debian-installer team decided next release schedule.
  
  Nope, it is the release of the debian-installer, not the whole of sarge.
 
 Ah, yes, of course. This schedule is only about debian-installer.
 
 I mean how about do we sync (at least have relationship) Sarge pulse
 with this schedule.

Well, i guess once debian-installer is ready, we have done our part of the
contract, and the rest of the decision is in the RM's hand.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Processed: Re: Bug#260227: countrychooser: console-cyrillic always installs AT keymaps

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Bug#260227: countrychooser: console-cyrillic always installs AT keymaps
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Bug#260233: tasksel: incorrect description of th japanese-desktop task

2004-07-19 Thread Christian Perrier
tags 260233 pending
thanks

Quoting Eugeniy Meshcheryakov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Package: tasksel
 Version: 2.06
 Severity: normal
 
   Description of the japanese-desktop is Japanese environment, should
 be Japanese desktop. 

I have corrected this in trunk



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Bug#260154: PowerMac G3 (beige) sarge d-i Installation Report

2004-07-19 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 10:53:00PM +0100, Clive Menzies wrote:
 Package: installation-reports
 
 Debian-installer-version: sarge powerpc tcl.1 9 June 2004
 uname -a: Linux Homer 2.4.25-powerpc #1 mer avr 14 15:38:38 CEST 2004
 ppc GNU/Linux

Could you have the 2.6 debian-installer a try also ?

We really want to go the 2.6 route for sarge, as i (and Jens, and the rest of
the debian-kernel team), really odn't want to support the 2.4 kernels for the
sarge lifetime.

Friendly,

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Bug#260227: countrychooser: console-cyrillic always installs AT keymaps

2004-07-19 Thread Eugeniy Meshcheryakov
Christian Perrier :
 Quoting Eugeniy Meshcheryakov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
Package: countrychooser, console-cyrillic
Version: SVN
Severity: important

  Languagechooser currently uses console-cyrillic package to set up
 
 
 Uh, why assign this to countrychooser, then ? :-)
 
Countrychooser contains code for console setup...
 Except if there's a reason I'm missing, I think this needs to be
 reassigned to languagechooser, console-cyrillic and probably more to
 console-cyrillic with Please also provide non-AT keymaps
 
Maybe. But providing keymaps for all architectures and than selecting
right keymap... I think possibility to use console-cyrillic without
setting up keymaps (only fonts) will be useful though. Keymap setup may
be done by using console-tools+console-data.



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Re: powerpc status and missing 2.6.7 .udebs and .debs in sarge.

2004-07-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 05:36:05PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 01:13:47PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
  http://release.debian.org/sarge_rc_policy.txt.
 
 The requested URL /sarge_rc_policy.txt. was not found on this server. 

It was at the end of a sentence, so you might have been able to guess
that the . should be removed. Sure, I should probably have put angle
brackets round it or something.

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Re: Bug#260185: install-reports: [usb] success for ThinkPad X22

2004-07-19 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Chong-Dae Park ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 11:02:03AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
  
   Comments/Problems:
I can install without any problems. Good job!
  
  Did you use the Korean translation??
 
 I've tried both the Korean translation and the English one.
 Both time, work smoothly.

OK, that's great. Having localised version tested is always good. I
wasn't sure there had been that much tests of d-i in Korean as I'm
unsure if Changwoo can easily test d-i.

As you mentioned the tasks problem is on itw way of being solved. This
was a general problem for all localised installs.




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Bug#260258: languagechooser: jfbterm is not required for Ukrainian

2004-07-19 Thread Eugeniy Meshcheryakov
Package: languagechooser
Severity: minor
Tags: patch

  jfbterm and unifont are not required for installation in Ukrainian but
installed by languagechooser.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.4.26
Locale: LANG=uk_UA.KOI8-U, LC_CTYPE=uk_UA.KOI8-U
Index: languagechooser
===
--- languagechooser (revision 17985)
+++ languagechooser (working copy)
@@ -70,7 +70,7 @@
 fi
 
 case $LANGUAGE in
-ja|ko|ko_KR|el|zh|zh_CN|zh_TW|bg|ar|he|uk|uk_UA)
+ja|ko|ko_KR|el|zh|zh_CN|zh_TW|bg|ar|he)
 # Japanese, Korean, Greek, Chinese, Bulgarian, Arabic, Hebrew,
 # Ukrainian
 apt-install jfbterm || true


Bug#260257: Installation report (failure on scanning disks)

2004-07-19 Thread Jason Williams
Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: 
http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/daily/netboot/pxeboot.tar.gz (dated 
2004-07-18 12:36), downloading testing packages
uname -a: Linux hostname 2.4.26-1-386 #2 Sat May 1 16:31:24 EST 2004 i686 unknown
Date: 2004-07-19 16:00
Method: PXE boot using an existing debian machine as server (atftpd and dhcp)
Machine: Homebuilt PC
Processor: AMD Duron 1600
Memory: 512MB
Root Device: IDE controller chipset SiS 5513 Ultra 133, hard drive WDC WD307AA

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [E]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:[ ]
Mount partitions:   [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

Gets stuck loading module ide-detect for just over five minutes,
then on Scanning disks (38%) for fifteen minutes, and on 
Starting up the partitioner / Please Wait (55%) for an undetermined
amount of time of at least ten minutes after which I gave up. The
machine has worked well with previous versions of debian.

Excerpts from the logfile:

Jul 19 15:14:38 hw-detect: Trying to load module 'ide-detect'
Jul 19 15:14:42 kernel: SIS5513: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:02.5
Jul 19 15:14:42 kernel: SIS5513: chipset revision 0
Jul 19 15:21:12 hw-detect: Detected module 'ide-disk' for 'Linux ATA DISK'
 ...  (skipped many entries here)
Jul 19 15:21:12 main-menu[304]: DEBUG: configure hardrive-detection, status:
Jul 19 15:21:12 main-menu[304]: DEBUG: virtual package harddrive-detection


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Bug#260225: Sarge installer not recognising partition table for disk larger than 137GB

2004-07-19 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Christian Perrier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  I'll paste it below for your convenience:
  
   Problems with the debian (sarge) installer
 
 For the record, after the IRC talk we had : this was reproducible on
 20040718 sid_d-i image
 
 I have asked Sara to try reproducing with a 2.6 install.

Still for the record : 2.6 failed too.

After this, a lot of tests:-)

Kamion  sazzle: same question to you; what does 'parted -s /dev/hda print' on 
tty2 show?
Kamion  er
bubulle tries to remember whether the old partitioner is on the 
netinst/businesscard CD's
Kamion  /dev/discs/disc0/disc I mean, not /dev/hda, sorry
Kamion  bubulle: doubt it's even built any more, *fdisk may be there
sazzle  Kamion: not sure, i'll have to reboot again
sazzle  i'm look with knoppix atm
sazzle  knoppix detects the disks
bubulle sazzle: well, if you say the partitions are there, it's OK. They *are* 
there
bubulle the problem is trying to find why partman doesn't see them..:-)
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sazzle  yeah
bubulle So, Kamion suggestion is interesting
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bubulle and also trying fdisk /dev/discs/disc0/disc on tty2 may be of some 
interest
joshk   yawns
joshk   not enough sleep
bubulle of cfdisk, I don't remember
bubulle joshk: damn...already there
gravity joshk: morning
joshk   that was a Bad Idea
joshk   brb
bubulle he went ot bed at 10:00UTC, I remember
--|simonrvn has left #debian-boot (thanks)
sazzle  just a question, why is it to get to the 2.6 kernel in sarge, you type 
linux26, but in woody to use 2.4 you had to do bf26?
sazzle  er, bf24
nictuku bf = boot floopies
nictuku they don't exist anymore
sazzle  ah
sazzle  always wondered what bf stood for
nictuku is the current daily build of d-i safe for i386, or is it broken? (I 
can't afford to download it twice..)
Kamion  sazzle: 2.4 was too new to be the default in woody
Kamion  sazzle: it's rock-stable now
Kamion  nictuku: you could use rsync, then you don't have to download twice ...
nictuku Kamion, he meant why the bf string
sazzle  Kamion: parted -s prints nothing
sazzle  sorry
Kamion  sazzle: with the other arguments?
sazzle  forgot the print
Kamion  right
nictuku Kamion, rsync the iso?
sazzle  Kamion: disk0 is my 80Gb drive
sazzle  Kamion: it prints it correctly, but that's not interesting
Kamion  nictuku: sure, from cdimage.debian.org::cdimage-testing/
Kamion  nictuku: look through that to find the iso you want; the structure is 
the same as via http
bubulle sazzle: try ls -l /dev/discs/disc0
Kamion  sazzle: well, disk1 or disk2 or whatever ...
sazzle  Kamion: but, if i do it with disk1, it's interesting
sazzle  Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk
sazzle  ..that.. explains everything doesn't it?
nictuku thanks kamion
bubulle sazzle: just to confirm, try cfdisk /dev/discs/disc0/disc
bubulle this should bring you into the goold old partitioner
sazzle  and with cfdisk, doing the same thing, I get: FATAL ERROR: Bad 
primary partition 3: Partition begins after end-of-disk
bubulle OK...
sazzle  just did
bubulle Kamion: what do you think of this? Kernel problem?
sazzle  it seems like a bug in parted, not the kernel
sazzle  as the kernel can read adn write to the disks
Kamion  bubulle: could be a screwed-up partition table that the kernel somehow 
tolerates anyway
bubulle hmmm, /me wonders whether fdisk uses parted
Kamion  bubulle: I doubt it
joshk   no way
joshk   definitely not
bubulle I was pretty sure..:-)
bubulle so, not a parted bug
bubulle what about completely erase the partitions with something else and try 
partitioning with the installer again
sazzle  bubulle: i'm trying to mount the partitions
sazzle  and finish the install
sazzle  lets see if this works
sazzle  hm
sazzle  no
sazzle  i mounted the first and 2nd partitions onto /target
sazzle  is there a way to skip the partitioning step?




Bug#260154: PowerMac G3 (beige) sarge d-i Installation Report

2004-07-19 Thread Clive Menzies
On (19/07/04 17:39), Sven Luther wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 10:53:00PM +0100, Clive Menzies wrote:
  Package: installation-reports
  
  Debian-installer-version: sarge powerpc tcl.1 9 June 2004
  uname -a: Linux Homer 2.4.25-powerpc #1 mer avr 14 15:38:38 CEST 2004
  ppc GNU/Linux
 
 Could you have the 2.6 debian-installer a try also ?
Hi Sven

As I reported, when I tried to boot the installer from initrd.gz and
vmlinux from the 2.6 folder, I got a kernel panic - sorry I didn't note
the exact error but it related to USB and my beige G3 doesn't have USB.
I'd be happy to acquire a USB/PCI card but that will take a little
while.  Or is there another image you'd like me to try?

If you want me to try booting the 2.6 kernel again and record the error
message, let me know.

Regards

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Bug#260225: Sarge installer not recognising partition table for disk larger than 137GB

2004-07-19 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Christian Perrier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  I'll paste it below for your convenience:
  
   Problems with the debian (sarge) installer
 
 For the record, after the IRC talk we had : this was reproducible on
 20040718 sid_d-i image
 
 I have asked Sara to try reproducing with a 2.6 install.

As I forgot to do so : thanks a lot, Sara, for the time you spent on
this problem. This was not wasted, definitely, though it may have
appeared to be.





Bug#254830: Please include firewire for network installs

2004-07-19 Thread Joey Hess
Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
 Here is what discover1 loads for Firewire:
 
 Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
 ehci-hcd   25704   0  (unused)
 usb-ohci   24136   0  (unused)
 
 and this is what discover2 loads:
 
 Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
 usb-ohci   24136   0  (unused)

None of the above are firewire modules, they're usb.

 So I manually have to load (by using /etc/modules) eth1394 and
 ohci1394. This is on my alpha/2.4.26. I can also check my ibook (ppc)
 with discover{1|2} and 2.{4|6} if that makes sense (but I vaguely
 remember it to be the same there).

If you'll provide the lspci and lspci -n information I asked for, then
discover can be fixed to load ohci1394 for your firewire controller, and
the rest of loading eth1394 is taken care of.

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Re: timeline for next release

2004-07-19 Thread Kenshi Muto
At 19 Jul 04 15:37:08 GMT,
Sven Luther wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 06:57:43PM +0900, Kenshi Muto wrote:
  I mean how about do we sync (at least have relationship) Sarge pulse
  with this schedule.
 
 Well, i guess once debian-installer is ready, we have done our part of the
 contract, and the rest of the decision is in the RM's hand.

So this is because I sent this thread as To: debian-release, Cc: debian-boot.

Further, to make debian-installer ready, it needs to make base packages
stable. They are out of d-i team control. RM's help is needed.

I saw Collin's response. I hope RM team provides us a good vision.

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Bug#260154: PowerMac G3 (beige) sarge d-i Installation Report

2004-07-19 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 05:10:15PM +0100, Clive Menzies wrote:
 On (19/07/04 17:39), Sven Luther wrote:
  On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 10:53:00PM +0100, Clive Menzies wrote:
   Package: installation-reports
   
   Debian-installer-version: sarge powerpc tcl.1 9 June 2004
   uname -a: Linux Homer 2.4.25-powerpc #1 mer avr 14 15:38:38 CEST 2004
   ppc GNU/Linux
  
  Could you have the 2.6 debian-installer a try also ?
 Hi Sven
 
 As I reported, when I tried to boot the installer from initrd.gz and
 vmlinux from the 2.6 folder, I got a kernel panic - sorry I didn't note
 the exact error but it related to USB and my beige G3 doesn't have USB.

Notice that USB is modular, and should not be loaded or even attempted. Could
you try to install and boot a 2.6 kernel in your already installed system, and
debug it that way ? And fill a bug report against kerne-image-2.6.7-powerpc.

 I'd be happy to acquire a USB/PCI card but that will take a little
 while.  Or is there another image you'd like me to try?

I don't think that is needed, see above.

 If you want me to try booting the 2.6 kernel again and record the error
 message, let me know.

Yes, please a full log output would be nice, i suppose that since 2.6.7-3, you
should be able to get a serial log on your old world box. This would be the
most perfect solution. But again, a bug report should go against the
kernel-image-2.6.7-powerpc package.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Problem installing debian on large disk with sarge installer

2004-07-19 Thread Joey Hess
Sara Falamaki wrote:
 I tried installing debian on a 160Gb disk recently.  I had problems
 partitioning it, and I've detailed them at the following url:
 http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~saraf/debian-install.html
 
 Could you please look into this?  I suspect this can potentially
 cause a lot of data loss if attempted on a disk that's not new.

I can't get to that page (couldn't you just include the details in your
email?) but we have recently fixed some problems with  100 gb disks,
and it's possible these included your problems, if you did not install
using a daily build of the installer.

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Re: r17990 - in trunk/packages/prebaseconfig: debian prebaseconfig.d

2004-07-19 Thread Joey Hess
Adam Thornton wrote:
 Added:
trunk/packages/prebaseconfig/prebaseconfig.d/51fix-network-modules-s390
 Modified:
trunk/packages/prebaseconfig/debian/changelog
 Log:
 Added script to copy modutils info to target system, and to detect whether
 ethX and trX are LCS or QDIO devices.

This script is s390 specific, is there some s390-specific package that
it could be added to, instead of to prebaseconfig?

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Bug#260250: tasksel: Some tasls reference invalid or non-free packages

2004-07-19 Thread Joey Hess
Christian Perrier wrote:
 chinese-s: doc-linux-zh-s is not a valid package.
 chinese-s: gs-cjk-resource is in non-free.
 chinese-s: cmap-adobe-gb1 is in non-free.
 chinese-t: gs-cjk-resource is in non-free.
 chinese-t: cmap-adobe-cns1 is in non-free.
 chinese-t: cedictb5 is not a valid package.
 italian-desktop: openoffice.org-hyphenation-it is in contrib.
 thai-desktop: kde-i18n-th is not a valid package.

Note that this isn't really fatal, it just means that none of the above
will appear in their respective tasks. Are there any alternatives for the
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Re: Problem installing debian on large disk with sarge installer

2004-07-19 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 I can't get to that page (couldn't you just include the details in your
 email?) but we have recently fixed some problems with  100 gb disks,
 and it's possible these included your problems, if you did not install
 using a daily build of the installer.

#260225Sara was using 20040718 sid_d-i which I pointed her to


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Bug#260225: Problem installing debian on large disk with sarge installer

2004-07-19 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 19 July 2004 19:29, Christian Perrier wrote:
 Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  I can't get to that page (couldn't you just include the details in your
  email?) but we have recently fixed some problems with  100 gb disks,
  and it's possible these included your problems, if you did not install
  using a daily build of the installer.

 #260225Sara was using 20040718 sid_d-i which I pointed her to

Could this be the 'partition table recognized as loop instead of msdos' 
problem again? That would make it the 3rd report and probably major bug.
/var/log/partman will be able to tell you...

See #249371 and #258889 for details.

Cheers,
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Bug#260225: Sarge installer not recognising partition table for disk larger than 137GB

2004-07-19 Thread Rick Thomas
I don't know if this is relevant, but some IDE controllers only
recognize the first 128 GB(binary) = 137*10^9 bytes.

Is it possible that your controller has two modes?  Windows uses one
mode that recognizes the whole disk, and Linux uses the other
(compatibility?) mode that only recognizes the first 137 GB(decimal)...?

I haven't tried a big disk on an x86 box, but on my Beige G3 PowerMacs,
I have to use a SIIG UltraIDE PCI controller to see the tail-ends of my
larger disks.  The on-board IDE controller that Apple built into those
boxes refuses to see beyond 137 GB(decimal).

For what it's worth, the SIIG controller works fine with Linux -- as
well as with MacOS. 

Enjoy!

Rick


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Partman

2004-07-19 Thread Margarita Manterola
Hi!

I know we are really really close to release time, but I'm worried about
partman usability.  We talked about some of these issues during debconf4,
but I've seen that partman is still the same.

Is there still a chance to change some part of this?

I have some ideas on how to make it a little better, I could write a
report about them, if you tell me there's till time for change.  If there
isn't, PLEASE do include a use cfdisk instead of partman option in
some place.



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Re: Partman

2004-07-19 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Margarita Manterola ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Hi!
 
 I know we are really really close to release time, but I'm worried about
 partman usability.  We talked about some of these issues during debconf4,
 but I've seen that partman is still the same.
 
 Is there still a chance to change some part of this?
 
 I have some ideas on how to make it a little better, I could write a
 report about them, if you tell me there's till time for change.  If there
 isn't, PLEASE do include a use cfdisk instead of partman option in
 some place.

See last IRC meeting log. Anton mentioned he will work on
this. Manpower is missing aroung this, I'm afraid

Also, some usability issues may require too much changes,
unfortunately.



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Bug#248576: marked as done (Beta Debian installer on Sparc64 - Kernel panic)

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Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: 11 May 2004, Beta version for Sparc from Debian 
Website, the 110 Mb version
uname -a: None (Kernel panic happened before that)
Date: 11 May 2004, around 18h CET
Method: Boot off CD-Rom, I/O on terminal through serial port

Machine: Sparc Ultra 30
Processor: Ultrasparc II 300 MHz
Memory: 256 Mb
Root Device: Theoretically a SCSI drive, /sca
Root Size/partition table: Kernel paniced before this stage
Output of lspci: N/A

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[E ]
Configure network HW:   [ O]
Config network: [ ]
Detect CD:  [ O]
Load installer modules: [ ]
Detect hard drives: [ O]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:[ ]
Mount partitions:   [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

Kernel panic shortly after launching install, see screen print-out.

[ ENTER - Boot install ]   [ Type rescue - Boot into rescue mode ]
boot:
Allocated 8 Megs of memory at 0x4000 for kernel
Loaded kernel version 2.4.24
Loading initial ramdisk (1808523 bytes at 0x40C0)...
\
Remapping the kernel... done.
Booting Linux...
PROMLIB: Sun IEEE Boot Prom 3.9.5 1997/04/11 10:03
Linux version 2.4.24-sparc64 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.3 20040125 
(prerel4
ARCH: SUN4U
Ethernet address: 08:00:20:9b:dd:f3
initrd extends beyond end of memory (0xc0db988b  0x6ff28000)
disabling initrd
On node 0 totalpages: 32142
zone(0): 32660 pages.
zone(1): 0 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
Found CPU 0 (node=f0072258,mid=0)
Found 1 CPU prom device tree node(s).
Kernel command line: root=/dev/rd/0 cdrom devfs=mount rw
Calibrating delay loop... 591.46 BogoMIPS
Memory: 254016k available (2504k kernel code, 584k data, 184k init) 
[f8]
Dentry cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 524288 bytes)
Inode cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 262144 bytes)
Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 8192 bytes)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 3, 65536 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 262144 bytes)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
PCI: Probing for controllers.
PCI: Found PSYCHO, control regs at 01fe
PSYCHO: Shared PCI config space at 01fe0100
PCI0(PBMB): Bus running at 33MHz
PCI0(PBMA): Bus running at 66MHz
ebus0: [auxio] [power] [SUNW,pll] [sc] [se] [su] [su] [ecpp] [fdthree] 
[eeprom]]
PCIO serial driver version 1.54
su(mouse) at 0x1fff13062f8 (irq = 4,7ea) is a 16550A
Sun Mouse-Systems mouse driver version 1.00
su(kbd) at 0x1fff13083f8 (irq = 9,7e9) is a 16550A
keyboard: not present
SAB82532 serial driver version 1.65
ttyS00 at 0x1fff140 (irq = 12,7eb) is a SAB82532 V3.2
ttyS01 at 0x1fff1400040 (irq = 12,7eb) is a SAB82532 V3.2
Console: ttyS0 (SAB82532)
power: Control reg at 01fff1724000 ... not using powerd.
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039

Bug#260303: base-config: hwclock | cut doesn't work in some locales

2004-07-19 Thread Colin Watson
Package: base-config
Version: 2.35
Severity: normal
Tags: patch

In some locales, the cut -d ' ' -f 1-6 that tzsetup does to remove
drift information doesn't work properly, because ctime() output in those
locales doesn't contain the same number of spaces. This is quite
noticeable in ja_JP.UTF-8, for instance.

Using sed 's/  .*//' instead works better, since ctime() output
doesn't seem to contain a double space in any locale I can see while
hwclock always outputs the double space.

The following patch fixes this:

  http://www.no-name-yet.com/patches/base-config.hwclock-cut.diff

I've also filed bug #260272 asking for a proper option to hwclock so
that this hack can be removed.

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Bug#248434: marked as done (sparc install error)

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Debian-installer-version: beta4
uname -a: The result of running uname -a on a shell prompt
Date: May of ten
Method: cdrom

Machine: SUn ultra5
Processor: sparc
Memory:64MB
Root Device: IDE
Root Size/partition table: 4GB
Output of lspci:

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[E ]
Configure network HW:   [ ]
Config network: [ ]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [ ]
Detect hard drives: [ ]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:[ ]
Mount partitions:   [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install boot loader:[o]
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[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

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Hi,

first and foremost: thank you for your bug report.

I'm currently processing old bug reports, and I am confident that the
bug you mention has been resolved with the current sparc cd images.

So I will close down this bug report. However, it would be great and
much appreciated if you could find time to download and test the
latest[1] sparc cd image and open a new bug report with any problems
that you might encounter.

Even with no problems encountered, a bug report is much appreciated,
since this will confirm that your particular system works with the
installer.

Thank you for your time.


shadow package 4.0.3-29.1 NMu uploaded

2004-07-19 Thread Christian Perrier
I just uploaded the shadow package NMU (built with general maintainer
agreement) to DELAYED/2-day. It should then appear in unstable on July
22th and be then just in time for the next d-i release if nothing bad
happens...:-)

Fixes are mostly programs translation fixes (not that important for
d-i). There is only one debconf translation update (meaning new
translations, directly seen by d-i users : finnish translation

I also applied the #259827 fix for avoiding FTBFS with gcc 3.4. This
is the main reason for the 2 days delay despite maintainer's agreement.)


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Re: Lock installer / network-console

2004-07-19 Thread Geert Stappers
On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 01:14:19AM +0200, Dennis Stampfer wrote:
 hey!
 
 I played with network-console (after copying/fixing the liraries). It's
 really nice!
 
 May it be a problem that now two interfaces exist for the installer? I
 think of something like locking the interface on local-side when the
 remote-installer gets startet and any action is taken remotely - if not,
 continuing the installation locally stops the sshd again.

I expect that network-console will be use by people who don't use real console.
And real console that stops network console, seems a perfect lock to me.

 
 dennis

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Bug#233007: More info needed: Bug#233007: various problems on Toshiba A100

2004-07-19 Thread Frederik Dannemare
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Hi,

first and foremost: thank you for your bug report.

I'm currently processing old bug reports, and since you reported some 
problems with the debian-installer back in February, I would very much 
appreciate it, if you could find time to download and test the
latest[1] cd image and confirm whether you still see the problems you've 
mentioned.

So much has changed with the installer since February, and it is only 
reasonable to assume that many (if not all) of your problems have been 
dealt with by the Debian Developers working on the installer. So if we 
haven't heard from you again within a month, I will close this report.

Thank you for your time.

[1]http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/current/
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Bug#260154: PowerMac G3 (beige) sarge d-i Installation Report

2004-07-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 11:03:00PM +0100, Clive Menzies wrote:
 I also tried to boot the installer (from the RamDisk option) using the
 2.6 initrd.gz and vmlinux files and got the following (again I don't
 know how to get this serial log and so I copied it):
 umount: /initrd: Invalid argument
 cp: unable to link '/mnt/usr/share/discover/usb.lst': Operation not
 Permitted
 cp: unable to link to '/mnt/var/log/messages': Operation not Permitted

That's the old busybox-cvs-udeb cramfs bug, which was fixed in sid_d-i
ages ago. We'll get the fix into sarge_d-i eventually (before the next
release).

In the meantime, 2.6 is only usable with images from the daily or
sid_d-i directories.

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Re: Partman

2004-07-19 Thread Margarita Manterola
 See last IRC meeting log. Anton mentioned he will work on
 this. Manpower is missing aroung this, I'm afraid

Ok, here is my report, for what it's worth.  I hope it can help making a
difference.

*   Main screen.

-= This is about moving the things on the screen.  A few string changes. =-

The problem with partman main screen is that everything is an option,
and it becomes really confusing to the user.  A simple change, like
putting the hard-drive information at the top and joining all the other
options at the bottom may be a bit more clarifying.

Then, I think that a GREAT difference could be made by transforming the Help
and Finish options into buttons at the bottom of the screen.  In this
way, we could have two less lines on the selection screen, and the help
and finish options would always be visible.  

Help and Finish being buttons rather than options is a more intuitive
approach (from my point of view, and some others I've collected as well)
and more user-friendly.  Please think about it.  I know it's different
from the rest of d-i, but it can make a real difference to the user.

* Formatting screen

-= This implies changing strings.  But it's quite important!! =-

The formatting screen is the one that I've found out to be more
confusing.  Specially when people that's new to partman try to find
where the swap is.

We've discussed this with some friends, and we came to the agreement
that if in Usage method it said Create a File System or maybe just
File System instead of Format the partition it would make the user
realize that that's the option he wants to change to use swap.

I think this is not enough, though.  I think we need some sort of tips
to allow people to realize where the things are, but this is much more
difficult, I know.

-= This is a code fix.  No string change needed =-

It's kind of dumb to show the Bootable flag for certain partition
types (like swap), I think it would be better to not show it when it
makes no difference, so as not to confuse the user unnecesarily.

* LVM and RAID

-= This is a code fix. No string changes =-

LVM and RAID options should NOT appear on the screen until the RAID or
LVM partitions have been selected.  These are two options, that eat up
screen space, when the user might not be interested at all in them, no
matter debconf level.

* More recipes

-= This implies adding some strings, please do think about it though =-

partman-auto is awesome.  I think it would be really nice to have some more
recipes, so that the least amount of people has to use partman to
actually set the values.

The one I already submitted is a Server recipe, that exchanges the
/var and /home sizes from the Multi-User recipe (or something like
that), I think that having this one would make a lot of people's lives
easier.

I can't think of any other sensible general recipe right now, but if
there are, I'd certainly say it's a good idea.  Remember: the least
people that use partman, the more people that will love debian installer
:)

 Also, some usability issues may require too much changes,
 unfortunately.

I've tried to keep the changes to the minimum possible.  But I think
that we *have* to address this before release.

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Bug#260348: Cannot specify that failed downloads should be automatically retried

2004-07-19 Thread Matt Kraai
Package: anna
Version: 0.065

After each failed download, anna asks whether I want to retry,
change the mirror, or cancel.  Since the network connection here
is poor, I see this question a lot.  It would be nice to have an
option to always retry failed downloads.

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Re: Partman

2004-07-19 Thread Joshua Kwan
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:33:48 -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote:
 I know we are really really close to release time, but I'm worried about
 partman usability.  We talked about some of these issues during debconf4,
 but I've seen that partman is still the same.

The problem is that the concept of partman is so difficult to grasp that
it's hard to make UI changes to it for anyone but Anton Zinoviev...

It's a well engineered concept, just that maybe there should be a README
file explaining all of the little directories and files in any given
partman directory, instead of having to read the entire partman manual in
doc/... Anton?

Alternatively if Anton maintained it more actively than he does then
perhaps we could all continue viewing partman like a glorious black-box...

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Re: Partman

2004-07-19 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 10:05:34PM -0700, Joshua Kwan wrote:
 On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:33:48 -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote:
  I know we are really really close to release time, but I'm worried about
  partman usability.  We talked about some of these issues during debconf4,
  but I've seen that partman is still the same.

 The problem is that the concept of partman is so difficult to grasp that
 it's hard to make UI changes to it for anyone but Anton Zinoviev...

 It's a well engineered concept, just that maybe there should be a README
 file explaining all of the little directories and files in any given
 partman directory, instead of having to read the entire partman manual in
 doc/... Anton?

I think reading the entire partman manual is strongly advisable for
anyone who's going to be hacking on it.

I say this in hindsight, having only read through it after
aboot-installer was about 80% written, but I nevertheless found it very
enlightening. :-)

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Re: Partman

2004-07-19 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 11:51:25AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
 It's kind of dumb to show the Bootable flag for certain partition
 types (like swap), I think it would be better to not show it when it
 makes no difference, so as not to confuse the user unnecesarily.

 To the best of my knowledge, the bootable flag has no significance 
 unless you have a DOS-family MBR.

It is also significant on Macintosh partition tables, AIUI.

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Bug#260225: Sarge installer not recognising partition table for disk larger than 137GB

2004-07-19 Thread Rick Thomas
Controllers that don't believe in disks larger than 137 GB(decimal) 
report any disk larger than that as being exactly 137 GB in size.  
This is probably why cfdisk et al are telling you that your 
partitions go beyond the end of the disk -- as far as they know, 
the disk ends before the beginning of the partition: at 137 GB.

It's a good sign that Windows can see the tail of the disk.  That 
means that the controller is capable of seeing it, even if Linux 
isn't forcing the right mode to make it do so.  It's also a hopeful 
sign that Knoppix can mount the partitions on the tail of the disk.

To see if the problem really lies with parted and/or cfdisk you 
might try them under Knoppix...

Is there a jumper or BIOS setting for the controller (or on the 
disk itself) to tell it to always use large disk mode?  (I don't 
know what the official name for that mode is -- maybe somebody on 
the list knows?)  That would be worth a try.

I know it's possible to use disks larger than 137 GB with Linux -- 
I'm doing it!

Rick
On Monday, July 19, 2004, at 08:33 PM, Sara Falamaki wrote:
On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 04:15:36PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
I don't know if this is relevant, but some IDE controllers only
recognize the first 128 GB(binary) = 137*10^9 bytes.
Is it possible that your controller has two modes?  Windows uses one
mode that recognizes the whole disk, and Linux uses the other
(compatibility?) mode that only recognizes the first 137 
GB(decimal)...?
Doubt it, as the problem doesn't seem to be recognising the whole
disk, 4 parts appear under /dev/discs/disc1/ as expected.  I was also
able to mount all the partitions in knoppix.  An error arises when
parted (or cfdisk) try to read the partition table, and die when
they think there is a partition after the end of the disk.
With parted -s /dev/discs/disc1/disc print I get the message:
   Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk
With cfdisk, doing the same thing, I get:
   FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 3: Partition begins
   after end-of-disk
 -S

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