Re: release update and branching

2004-12-03 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 12:31:43AM -0500, martin yazdzik wrote:
 Dear Friends,
 
 THe question I would like to have had answered, to wit, is the dual boot 
 disk geometry problem solved, has been.  Thanks.
 
 For the record, when using 2.6 to boot the cd, one sees that no matter 
 what, when checking the c,h,s before committing to the formatting, it 
 remains x,16,63, in rc2.
 
 It rather sounds to me from the exchange herein as were the coders 
 either amused at the pain they will inflict upon the unsuspecting, or 
 willing to release an installer which they know full well will cost 
 hundreds of people thousands of hours simply because non-coders are 
 somehow less than human. This issue has been discussed since at least 

Ah, no, it is just part of a master plan to have people get ride of windows :)

No, seriously, it is not that, but the CHS issue is less than evident to
solve, as i believe in particular that it is linked with the various hacks
that were done back then to break the 528MB barrier.

 June.  At the moment, neither Ubuntu nor Debian can be installed on a 
 non LBA bios to dual boot with a pre-existing windows installation using 
 the ntloader.

Can you do an install without touching the partition table, and then try the
experimental version of parted, and see if it fixes your issue ?  The packages
are :

  ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/parted/parted_1.6.19-0.exp.1_i386.deb

and : 

  
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/parted/libparted1.6-12_1.6.19-0.exp.1_i386.deb

 As recently as yesterday, the issue came up in the DSLReports unix 
 forum, http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12006676~mode=flat.
 
 While no one respects the work here more than I, there is a lingering 
 prejudice that non-coders do not count.  So, the d-i sort of works.  I 
 have checked every week or so, getting as far as the partitioning, and, 
 when I see x.16.63, stop, as I know the result.

Well, windows made a mess of it, they should pay by getting erased :)

Seriously again, i think the issues are more involved than that

 That is is silly that many notebook manufacturers use the 
 non-user-changeable Phoenix bios, or that windows uses the legacy 
 interrupts, c, may be well true, but there has to be a solution before 
 the final, in my opinion.  Obviously, the opinion of non-hackers is also 
 taken to be irrelevant, since the attitude has become more and more that 
 the only valid use of human intelligence is coding, and those who choose 
 to be lawyers, or musicians, or physicians who merely want to use debian 
 as they would windows must be somehow mentally deficient.  We are not, 
 and actually understand the problem rather well.

Please calm done a bit, and help test the above packages.

 Therefore, I will admit my sheer stupidity and ask if someone could 
 explain to the village idiot why one cannot simply prepare the free 
 space, have the d-i format the free space without touching the partition 

This is absolutely no problem. i believe you have to do manual partitioning in
partman, chose the partitions you want to use, and select them for root, swap,
etc.  Notice that on my pegasos box, which uses amiga partition tables, i have
no such stupid CHS problems, and me lacking x86 hardware, it makes it a bit
difficult for me to play with these issues. You are welcome to help out in the
maintenance of the parted package, it is well known that i have asked for help
on this since a while. Also, it is not known that the trunk version of parted
does fix 100% of those cases, but it fixes more than the version currently in
sarge/sid.

Skipped load of other angry stuff

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: release update and branching

2004-12-03 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 06:34:55AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote:
 
  That said, if we had done the change in august, then we would not have this
  problem anymore now, so the whole discussion comes down to if we will 
  release
  this year yet (highly unlikely), or 6 or more onth from now.
 
 
 As a side remark in this thread, it would certainly be nice if we
 don't read such remark (it's unlikely that we release in less than 6
 months) too often. I'm sometimes thinkink that part of our release

No, i said it is unlikely that we release this year yet, i would bet for
january/feburary if all goes well, but this year is in 28 days, and i believe
this is less than the RMs post t-p-u fixing schedule, so ...

And the main thing is that for cases where not much packages are involved,
holding back for a maybe release that never happens is not a nice thing to do,
and create more work for the maintainers, and more frustration than it is
worth. Notice that i was told, we will release imminently and held back
progress in packages two times already. Once for kernel-pckage in december
2003, and once about this selfsame issue in august,

 problems is because there is a strange feeling among developers that we
 cannot release.

 We should always be in a release mood...even two days after a release
 happened..:-)

Well, but not to the point of freezing progress. In this case, if it was not
for d-i, i believe that solving the issues involved takes less time that any
upto freeze schedule we might have, so it is worth it. Even for d-i, i don't
think the issues are all that complicated, but let's wait and hear back from
Colin's tests in ubuntu, if that can make joeyh happier.

 On my own side, given the recent release update, I'm still optimistic
 about the release.

I bet you a champaign bottle that we will not release in 2004 :)

 Given the arguments exchanged in this thread, I'm also not really in
 favour of a parted change now, for d-i sarge release.

fine, you just volunteered with joeyh to hand-hold all those users whose
windows will have become unusable to fix it :)

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Bug#284058: Package: installation-reports

2004-12-03 Thread Łukasz Studziński
Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: sarge-powerpc-netinst.iso (debian-installer
rc2)
uname -a: 2.6.8-powerpc #1 Sun Oct 3 13:22:21 CEST 2004 ppc GNU/Linux
Date: December 2nd, 2004
Method: cd

Machine: iBook G4 
Processor: PowerPC G4 (7447A, altivec supported, clock 1066MHz)
Memory: 256 MB
Root Device: IDE
Root Size/partition table:  
#type name length   base
( size )  system
/dev/hda1 Apple_partition_map Apple63 @ 1
( 31.5k)  Partition map
/dev/hda2  Apple_Boot eXternal booter   17408 @ 64
(  8.5M)  Unknown
/dev/hda3   Apple_UFS Apple_UFS_Untitled_2  8443192 @ 17472
(  4.0G)  Unknown
/dev/hda4 Apple_Bootstrap untitled   1954 @ 8460664
(977.0k)  NewWorld bootblock
/dev/hda5 Apple_UNIX_SVR2 untitled9765625 @ 8462618
(  4.7G)  Linux native
/dev/hda6 Apple_UNIX_SVR2 untitled   38476563 @ 18228243
( 18.3G)  Linux native
/dev/hda7 Apple_UNIX_SVR2 swap1900314 @ 56704806
(927.9M)  Linux swap

Root is mounted on /dev/hda5, home on /dev/hda6, MAC OS X shipped with
the computer is on /dev/hda3.

Output of lspci and lspci -n:
#lspci
:00:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth 2 AGP
:00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV250 5c63
[Radeon Mobility 9200 M9+] (rev 01)
0001:10:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth 2 PCI
0001:10:17.0 ff00: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Intrepid Mac I/O
0001:10:18.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Intrepid USB
0001:10:19.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Intrepid USB
0001:10:1a.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Intrepid USB
0001:10:1b.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43)
0001:10:1b.1 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43)
0001:10:1b.2 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 (rev 04)
0002:20:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth 2 Internal PCI
0002:20:0d.0 ff00: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Intrepid ATA/100
0002:20:0e.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth 2
FireWire (rev 81)
0002:20:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth 2 GMAC
(Sun GEM) (rev 80)

#lspci -n
:00:0b.0 0600: 106b:0034
:00:10.0 0300: 1002:5c63 (rev 01)
0001:10:0b.0 0600: 106b:0035
0001:10:17.0 ff00: 106b:003e
0001:10:18.0 0c03: 106b:003f
0001:10:19.0 0c03: 106b:003f
0001:10:1a.0 0c03: 106b:003f
0001:10:1b.0 0c03: 1033:0035 (rev 43)
0001:10:1b.1 0c03: 1033:0035 (rev 43)
0001:10:1b.2 0c03: 1033:00e0 (rev 04)
0002:20:0b.0 0600: 106b:0036
0002:20:0d.0 ff00: 106b:003b
0002:20:0e.0 0c00: 106b:0031 (rev 81)
0002:20:0f.0 0200: 106b:0032 (rev 80)

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]

Comments/Problems:
Installer does not add existing MAC OS X installation to yaboot. On
intels grub is able to add existing Windows to its config, it would be
nice for yaboot to also have such option.

Also debian-installer might be used as a very reliable hardware test - I
got a computer which failed many times on installation procedure.
Apple's hardware test CD stated that the computer was OK. But clearly it
was not. Later it started to hang on MAC OS X and finally Apple replaced
the unit for the good one.



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Bug#269036: Sarge: debian-installer partitioning failure

2004-12-03 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 08:43:35PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Thursday 02 December 2004 15:28, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
  Notice that hda7 and hda8 start before the end of hda6.  This partition
  table is broken (some partitioning tools are making such partition
  tables) and in order to be safe the partitioning program of the
  installer refuses to work with it.  If you remove hda7 and hda8 the
  problem (I hope) will disappear.
 
 Well
 Actually, partman does just that itself if you for instance delete a large 
 partition that's not on the end of the disk and create one or two new 
 partitions in it's place.

Hm, I wasn't clear enough.  The problem is not that the partitions are
not numbered acording to their disk order.

   Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   * 1  2349  17758408+   7  HPFS/NTFS 
/dev/hda2  4695  5168   3583440   41  PPC PReP Boot
/dev/hda3  2350  3321   7348320c  Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/hda4  3738  4694   7234920f  Win95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hda5  3738  3805514048+  82  Linux swap
/dev/hda6  3806  4694   6720808+  83  Linux 
/dev/hda7  3738  373830+  83  Linux
/dev/hda8  3806  380631   83  Linux

Notice that hda7 is inside hda5 and hda8 is inside hda6.  The start and
the end here are measured in cylinders, so although I can not be sure, I
suppose that hda7 and hda8 lay in the first track of the first cylinder
of hda5 and hda6.  Parted is not happy with such partitions so it is
possible that this bug is the same as #242114, #258880, #263208 and
#268580.

Now I remember that parted allows creation of partitions in this
forbiden area but partman has internal protection against this.  I
suppose that the partitioning tools of Mandrake and SuSE do not have
such a protection.

Anton Zinoviev





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Re: Which package versions a d-i release contains?

2004-12-03 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 08:34:58PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Thursday 02 December 2004 14:39, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
  How I can determine which version of partman was in rc1, beta4, etc.?
 
 One way would be to download the netinst CD and see what version is 
 in /pool.
 
 If that's a problem for you, I still have copies of all the netinsts from 
 beta3 onwards, so I could look the versions up for you.

No, thanks.  We definitely need a better instrument to keep our history.
Would you mind if I create files

installer/history/sarge-rc2/Packages-{arm,i386,m68k,}

in trunk.  The directory sarge-rc2/ could contain also other
information for rc2.

Anton Zinoviev



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Bug#284070: Package: installation-reports

2004-12-03 Thread Nils Krueger
Package: installation-reports
Debian-installer-version: 18-Nov-2004 16:28 
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-powerpc/rc2/images/powerpc/netboot/vmlinuz-prep.initrd
uname -a: Linux powerstack 2.6.8-powerpc #1 Sun Oct 3 13:22:21 CEST 2004 
pc unknown
Date: 1-Dec-2004 19:00
Method: tftpboot with LAN tftp-server, network-installation without proxy 
using http://ftp2.de.debian.org

Machine: Motorola PowerStack Series E
Processor: PowerPC 604e
Memory: 64M
Root Device: SCSI 0:1:0
Root Size/partition table: Fügen Sie einfach die komplette Partitions-
  Tabelle ein, mit Notizen, welche Partition wo eingebunden wurde.
Output of lspci and lspci -n:
Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O] DHCP
Detect CD:  [ ]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [E]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[E]
Reboot: [E]
Comments/Problems:
There is no way to add a PReP Boot Partition while partitioning the hard 
drive. I had to add a boot partition manually but was unable to set it to 
partition type PReP Boot. During installation process Thus no bootloader 
has been installed and reboot failed.


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Bug#284082: Incomplete entry in the errata of rc2

2004-12-03 Thread Anton Zinoviev
Package: debian-installer
Severity: critical

Merit for the severity: may cause serious data loss.

The current text in the errata is:

  * LVM failure on Sparc32 (at least). If you want to create LVM volume
  groups, the physical volumes must not reside at the beginning of the
  disk, or else activating new logical volumes within the volume group
  will fail. This is due to some unforeseen quirks in Sun disk labels.

This failure happened because the the sun disk label resides at the
beginning of the disk and the first partition may start from the
beginning of the disk.  Hence the partition table becomes part of the
first partition. Most file systems are smart enough not to write data at
the beginning of their place but this is not the case with the phisical
volumes for LVM or RAID and not the case with the swap spaces.

The users MAY NOT create swap spaces or partitions for LVM and RAID at
the beginning of the disk or the partition table will be subsequently
completely erased.

Anton Zinoviev




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Re: installing debian on IBM 43P-150 (CHRP)

2004-12-03 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 12:51:13PM -, Leigh Brown wrote:
 Sven Luther said:
  On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 12:10:31PM -, Leigh Brown wrote:
  Sven Luther said:
   On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 01:25:46PM -, Leigh Brown wrote:
  [...]
   You can't boot from the CD's because they haven't been built to
   work on AIX firmware.  To work on AIX firmware, they require
   the -U option to be specified in the mkisofs command.
  
   Huh, and you tell us only now :)
 
  No :-)
 
  http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2004/01/msg01031.html
 
   Let's fix that, or will it break other subarches booting ?
 
  I don't believe so, but testing might be an idea ;-)
 
  Colin mentioned that the -U option has to be used with great care though.
 
 It may be that a subset of the options enabled by -U will work.  I
 will investigate.

Ok, that would be nice, CCing Colin as he isn't actively following here right
now ...

  Can we also add /ppc/bootinfo.txt onto the image?  This will
  allow RS/6000's to autoboot, and, on newer ones, to display a
  nice message indicating what O/S is on the CD.
 
  Ok. What should be the content pf this file then ?
 
 Exactly as I described in the email I referenced ;-)
 (you need the icon data, even though it isn't used)

I suppose any icon data would do, no ? Could we use a debian swirl of some
kind instead ? or do you mean it will never be showed or something ? 

Friendly,

Sven Luther
 description can be anything you like, as can os-name
 os-name is displayed by newer RS/6000 firmware.
 I put yaboot in /ppc/chrp, as that's where AIX's boot
 image goes.  However, I think you could specify another
 path.  Note, also, that the yaboot needs to have the note
 section added in order to work (ybin does this when it
 installs it normally).
 
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 chrp-boot
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Bug#273343: About you failed installation attempt on SPARC64

2004-12-03 Thread Anton Zinoviev
Hi!

Thanks about your installation report.  You sent it on 25 Sep 2004:

http://bugs.debian.org/273343

You wrote:

 I have two SCSI hard drives of 2.2GB each.  The plan was as follows:
 sda1  50MB /boot
 sda2 200MB swap
 sda4 1.9GB RAID0 storage \
 sdb1 250MB swap/ (root)
 sdb2 1.9GB RAID0 storage /

The problem was that you put swap space (sdb1) at the beginning of the
disk.  This is not allowed on sun disk labels because if the first
partition start at the beginning of the disk then the partition table is
part of the first partition.  This is OK if the first partition contains
some file system but it is not allowed if the first partition is swap or
phisical volume for LVM or RAID.

 I selected Configure Software Raid, it wrote the partition layout to
 disk, created filesystems etc.  Then it complained that there were no
 partition for RAID available, so I went back to the partitioning menu.
 Now my layout looked like this:

 sda1  51.0MB /boot
 sda2 199.9MB swap
 sda4   1.9GB physical volume (LVM)
 sdb1   2.2GB swap

 Where did my second physical volume go???

Because the partition table was part of sdb1 it was erased when the
partitioner formatted the swap space.

We definitely need a warning message if the user tries to put swap, LVM
or RAID at the beginning of the disk.  Thanks again for you report.

Anton Zinoviev



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Bug#273982: partman: Broken display during Arabic installs

2004-12-03 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 07:38:19AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
 
 The attached screen captures show the main partman screen and the partition
 aditiing screen during an Arabic install. As you may see, the display is
 somewhat broken. For instance the partition size and the unit are not close
 together and the display is not properly aligned.
 
 This is probably a consequence of formatting with a left-to-right
 reasoning and will probably affect all install with right-to-left languages.

What algorithms are used to format the screen for such languages?

Anton Zinoviev




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Bug#273867: marked as done (Sarge partman unable to reuse Woody swap partition successfully)

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Package: partman

I downloaded and burned a Sarge CD on 20040923. I booted expert26 mode.

The PC I was installing on had already been partitioned / used by Woody, then
pointed at the testing files and updated to testing.

I reformatted existing Linux partitions from ReiserFS to XFS successfully.

However, swap came up with the smiley face, and so I did nothing with it.
Committing the partitioning was successful other than swap which made it
through to 100% on its progress bar, then a failure message came up. I had
tried to allow it to prepare swap multiple times without success. I had to
physically delete the partition and recreate it as a swap partition.

I have reinstalled Sarge, smiley face for swap, and all was well. So I guess I
would have to drop back to Woody, then up to Sarge to recreate this, or does
someone know of an incompatibility in swap format off the top of your head and
you don't need me to do a recreate on this one?

Thanks!

Michael Lueck
Lueck Data Systems
http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/



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Thanks for your installation report.

On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 10:59:16AM -0400, Michael Lueck wrote:
 
 However, swap came up with the smiley face, and so I did nothing with it.
 Committing the partitioning was successful other than swap which made it
 through to 100% on its progress bar, then a failure message came up.

In the resent verions of the installer partman always reformats the
swap 

Bug#283967: installation-reports: languagechooser error on alpha

2004-12-03 Thread Paul Telford
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004, Christian Perrier wrote:


  rc2 businesscard install, automated via preseed/url file.  On my initial
  attempt I booted with:
0 languagechooser/language-name=English preseed/url=http://url 
  debconf/priority=critical


 That one may be tricky...as I'm doing nearly the same with my
 babelbox which autoinstalls itself in all languages.

 The only difference is that I use DEBCONF_PRIORITY=critical...and it
 is a i386 machine, not alpha.

Agreed.. I think it may ba alpha specific.  I've booted with the exact
same arguments dozens of times on i386, and several times each on hppa
and ia64 all with no problems.


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Bug#274290: FWD: Re: Bug#274290: debian-installer: Manual partitioning does not give full control

2004-12-03 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 you wrote:
 
 * I miss the exact partition sizes that cfdisk gives me.  The new one says
   things like 1.9GB, whereas cfdisk says e.g. 5996.23MB.

This is a good wishlist - give the user the chance to change the format
of the screen and in particular the precision and measure units.

 * I like to be able to see the partition data for all partitions at once.

Would it be enough if the user is able to hide the explanatory messages
in the upper part of the screen?

 * I like cfdisk's ability tho show partitions either by their size, or by 
   cylinders/sectors.

A very long time ago the partitioner was able to do so.  Then this
possibility was removed but you still are able to check the
cylinder/sector start and end of the free spaces.  How stupid... ;-)

 * I like to be able to specify partitions by their starting and ending 
 * cylinders.

OK.

 * And in addition: cfdisk is available (also) after installation.  The new 
   is not(?).

It is available on your installation media. ;-)

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Bug#275089: sarge-i386-netinst: bug report

2004-12-03 Thread Anton Zinoviev
Thanks for your installation report.

On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 03:58:31PM -0700, Charles Lear wrote:
 
Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
 /dev/hda1   *   14857390138217  HPFS/NTFS   
 /dev/hda26690996426306437+   5  Extended
 /dev/hda34858668914715536+  83  Linux  [Suse Linux]
 /dev/hda46822812810498477+  83  Linux [Slack /home]
 /dev/hda566906821 1060258+  82  Linux swap
 /dev/hda681299178 8434092+  83  Linux  [Slackware /]
 /dev/hda791799964 6313513+  83  Linux  

Some partitioning tools (probably SuSE in your case) create broken
partition tables.  Notice that the primary partition hda4 is inside the
extended partition hda2.  Thats why the Debian installer does not
recognise the partition table. 

It is a good idea however to show the user an informational message
about the reasons why the partition table was not recognised.

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Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: 20040930 ( rc2 from web )
uname -a: Linux slave13 2.4.27-1-386 #1 Fri Sep 3 06:24:46 UTC 2004 i686 
GNU/Linux

Date: 2004-oct-02
Method: boot CD (Debian GNU/Linux testing Sarge - Official Snapshot i386 
Binary-1 (20040930))

Machine: desktop PC ( MB : Gigabyte GA-7VAXP Ultra , BIOS version F7 )
Processor: AMD K-7 Athlon XP2200+
Memory: 768 MB DDR (2x133 MHz)
Root Device: Maxtor 6Y160P0, ATA DISK drive, partition /dev/hdg5
Root Size/partition table: 

# fdisk -l /dev/hdg

Disk /dev/hdg: 163.9 GB, 163928604672 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19929 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hdg1   1 608 4883728+  82  Linux swap
/dev/hdg2 609304019535040f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hdg33041547319543072+  83  Linux ( this is not 
used )
/dev/hdg5 609304019535008+  83  Linux ( this it root )

Output of lspci and lspci -n:

:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8377 [KT400/KT600 AGP] Host 
Bridge
:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 PCI Bridge
:00:0c.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video 
Capture (rev 11)
:00:0c.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture 
(rev 11)
:00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: Promise Technology, Inc. PDC20276 
(MBFastTrak133 Lite) (rev 01)
:00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 80)
:00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 80)
:00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 80)
:00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82)
:00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge
:00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus
Master IDE (rev 06)
:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio
Controller (rev 50)
:00:13.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
:00:14.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host 
Controller (rev 46)
:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R200 QL 
[Radeon 8500 LE]

:00:00.0 0600: 1106:3189
:00:01.0 0604: 1106:b168
:00:0c.0 0400: 109e:036e (rev 11)
:00:0c.1 0480: 109e:0878 (rev 11)
:00:0f.0 0104: 105a:5275 (rev 01)
:00:10.0 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 80)
:00:10.1 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 80)
:00:10.2 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 80)
:00:10.3 0c03: 1106:3104 (rev 82)
:00:11.0 0601: 1106:3177
:00:11.1 0101: 1106:0571 

Summary / new quik available (was Re: please test new quik with initrd-support (was: Re: getting quik into sarge?

2004-12-03 Thread Holger Levsen
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Hi,

Peter 'p2' De Schrijver has made some new updates to the quik - you can get it 
(.deb and source) at the http://www.ulyssis.org/~p2/debjes/

changes include:
 - manpage tells about initrd
 - compiles with gcc3
 - sprintf bug fixed
 - ANS raid support

quik with initrd has been tested on
- - ANS (Peter 'p2' De Schrijver)
- - PMac 4400/200 (me)
- - PMac 6500/250 (Romain Francoise)
- - PMac 7200/90 (Peter 'p2' De Schrijver, me)
- - PMac 9500 (Jaakko Niemi)
- - PMac Beige G3 Rev II (Simon Vallet)

If you got an(other) oldworld machine, please test this quik while installing 
the latest kernel-image-2.6.8-powerpc.deb (contains an initrd).

Nobody mentioned to have tried with less than 32mb ram, if you do, please 
report your results as well.

Colin Watson wrote:

 This seems to be inappropriately built as a native package. If it were
 built non-native then it would be easier for me to look over the
 .diff.gz to see the changes from upstream.

Still on the todo list - should be done as fast as possible to be able to 
achieve the goal of inclusion in sarge.. ;-)


regards,
 Holger 
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Bug#284058: Package: installation-reports

2004-12-03 Thread Christian Perrier
reassign 284058 os-prober
retitle 284058 Did not detect a Mac OS/X install
thanks

 Installer does not add existing MAC OS X installation to yaboot. On
 intels grub is able to add existing Windows to its config, it would be
 nice for yaboot to also have such option.


As far as I can see, os-prober is supposed to detect OS/X installs.

The test is by trying to find a file named mach_kernel at the root of
the tested partitions.

I have no clue on PPC systems...just quickly analysing your install
report.




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Re: release update and branching

2004-12-03 Thread Joey Hess
Sven Luther wrote:
 That said, if we had done the change in august, then we would not have this
 problem anymore now, so the whole discussion comes down to if we will release
 this year yet (highly unlikely), or 6 or more onth from now.

I'm sorry, but I regard that attitude as such complete bullshit that I
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FWD: megaraid2 issue debian sarge

2004-12-03 Thread Joey Hess
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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 12:07:34 +0100
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Subject: megaraid2 issue debian sarge

Hi Joey

I read the workaround to install debian sarge on
a dell 2850 on the debian list, but couldn't figure 
out, how exactly I can do that. Do you can give me
some more details how I get the megaraid2 controller
working with debian sarge?


thanks a lot.
best regards
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Bug#284082: Incomplete entry in the errata of rc2

2004-12-03 Thread Joey Hess
Please don't file RC bug reports about the WEB SITE on the
debian-installer pseudo package. We have a pasudo-package for the web
site, and the d=-i psudo package is abused enough as it is, and huge
time sink for me to reassign all the crap that is assigned here to the
correct package.

Anton Zinoviev wrote:
 The current text in the errata is:
 
   * LVM failure on Sparc32 (at least). If you want to create LVM volume
   groups, the physical volumes must not reside at the beginning of the
   disk, or else activating new logical volumes within the volume group
   will fail. This is due to some unforeseen quirks in Sun disk labels.
 
 This failure happened because the the sun disk label resides at the
 beginning of the disk and the first partition may start from the
 beginning of the disk.  Hence the partition table becomes part of the
 first partition. Most file systems are smart enough not to write data at
 the beginning of their place but this is not the case with the phisical
 volumes for LVM or RAID and not the case with the swap spaces.
 
 The users MAY NOT create swap spaces or partitions for LVM and RAID at
 the beginning of the disk or the partition table will be subsequently
 completely erased.

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Bug#284112: installation-reports

2004-12-03 Thread John Smith
Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: rc2 dated 18-11-2004
uname -a: Linux indeb005 2.6.8-1-686 #1 Thu Nov 25 04:34:30 UTC 2004 i686 
GNU/Linux
Date: 2004-12-03 16:00
Method: netboot using a dhcp-ed pxe nic (tg3) with tftp-hpa from a local apt 
mirror through apt-proxy
Machine: Compaq/HP DL-380 dual processor
Processor: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz (2x)
Memory: 1GB RAM
Root Device: Compaq Smart Array 5i/532 with 2 x 72GB scsi hd's in mirror
Root Size/partition table: 

indeb005:~# fdisk -l /dev/cciss/c0d0

Disk /dev/cciss/c0d0: 72.8 GB, 72826629120 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 8854 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/cciss/c0d0p1   1  34  273073+  83  Linux
/dev/cciss/c0d0p2  351994157437005  Extended
/dev/cciss/c0d0p3   *19952116  979965   83  Linux
/dev/cciss/c0d0p5  35 642 4883728+  83  Linux
/dev/cciss/c0d0p6 6431007 2931831   83  Linux
/dev/cciss/c0d0p710081337 2650693+  82  Linux swap
/dev/cciss/c0d0p813381386  393561   83  Linux
/dev/cciss/c0d0p913871994 4883728+  83  Linux

Output of lspci and lspci -n:

indeb005:~# lspci
:00:00.0 Host bridge: ServerWorks CMIC-LE Host Bridge (GC-LE chipset) (rev 
33)
:00:00.1 Host bridge: ServerWorks CMIC-LE Host Bridge (GC-LE chipset)
:00:00.2 Host bridge: ServerWorks CMIC-LE Host Bridge (GC-LE chipset)
:00:03.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL (rev 27)
:00:04.0 System peripheral: Compaq Computer Corporation Integrated Lights 
Out Controller (rev 01)
:00:04.2 System peripheral: Compaq Computer Corporation Integrated Lights 
Out  Processor (rev 01)
:00:0f.0 ISA bridge: ServerWorks CSB5 South Bridge (rev 93)
:00:0f.1 IDE interface: ServerWorks CSB5 IDE Controller (rev 93)
:00:0f.2 USB Controller: ServerWorks OSB4/CSB5 OHCI USB Controller (rev 05)
:00:0f.3 Host bridge: ServerWorks CSB5 LPC bridge
:00:10.0 Host bridge: ServerWorks CIOB-X2 PCI-X I/O Bridge (rev 05)
:00:10.2 Host bridge: ServerWorks CIOB-X2 PCI-X I/O Bridge (rev 05)
:00:11.0 Host bridge: ServerWorks CIOB-X2 PCI-X I/O Bridge (rev 05)
:00:11.2 Host bridge: ServerWorks CIOB-X2 PCI-X I/O Bridge (rev 05)
:01:03.0 RAID bus controller: Compaq Computer Corporation Smart Array 
5i/532 (rev 01)
:02:01.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5703X 
Gigabit Ethernet (rev 02)
:02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5703X 
Gigabit Ethernet (rev 02)
:06:1e.0 PCI Hot-plug controller: Compaq Computer Corporation PCI Hotplug 
Controller (rev 14)
indeb005:~# lspci -n
:00:00.0 0600: 1166:0014 (rev 33)
:00:00.1 0600: 1166:0014
:00:00.2 0600: 1166:0014
:00:03.0 0300: 1002:4752 (rev 27)
:00:04.0 0880: 0e11:b203 (rev 01)
:00:04.2 0880: 0e11:b204 (rev 01)
:00:0f.0 0601: 1166:0201 (rev 93)
:00:0f.1 0101: 1166:0212 (rev 93)
:00:0f.2 0c03: 1166:0220 (rev 05)
:00:0f.3 0600: 1166:0225
:00:10.0 0600: 1166:0101 (rev 05)
:00:10.2 0600: 1166:0101 (rev 05)
:00:11.0 0600: 1166:0101 (rev 05)
:00:11.2 0600: 1166:0101 (rev 05)
:01:03.0 0104: 0e11:b178 (rev 01)
:02:01.0 0200: 14e4:16a7 (rev 02)
:02:02.0 0200: 14e4:16a7 (rev 02)
:06:1e.0 0804: 0e11:a0f7 (rev 14)

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [ ]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[E]
Reboot: [O]

Comments/Problems:

Grub still does not install on these kind (scsi?) of machines.
The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly. is the main
error message, I think. Worked around it by installing lilo.
Does anybody know of a way to install grub?

debian-installer logs available on request.

Have control of this beast, when asked, available for debugging.

Screens (typos possible, had to copy it the chinese way ;-)) :

tty1:

[!!] Install the GRUB boot loader on a
Unable to install GRUB in (hd0)
Executing 'grub-install (hd0)' failed.

This is a fatal error.

Go Back Continue

tty3:

Setting up usbutils (0.11+==cvs20041108-1) ...

Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...
e2fsprogs is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...
Suggested packages:
  grub-doc grubconf
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  grub
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 350kB of archives.
After unpacking 

Re: release update and branching

2004-12-03 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 01:39:49PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
 Sven Luther wrote:
  That said, if we had done the change in august, then we would not have this
  problem anymore now, so the whole discussion comes down to if we will 
  release
  this year yet (highly unlikely), or 6 or more onth from now.
 
 I'm sorry, but I regard that attitude as such complete bullshit that I
 cannot talk to people who have it. Bye.

Joeyh, do you seriously think we can release this year yet (as in the next 4
weeks) ? I don't think there is time for this even if t-p-u was fixed today. I
agree on a january-feburary timeframe, and even in this case, using the new
parted would be problematic, as you well know.

On the other hand, if the release is going to happen months from now, as
already happened two times in the past (december 2003, august 2004), then we
will have time to do the switch.

I am right now making sure that we have a version in experimental of all the
rdepends of libparted, so that this second solution is doable if we go that
way, but this is seriously no particular reason to take it that way, is it ? 

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Bug#283793: marked as done (debian-installer: quik is still installed and trying to do unwanted things on my harddisk which my break.)

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On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 07:52:13PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
 The bug is that quik is Priority: important when it should be extra (as
 a package only appropriate to specific hardware); this is bug #278187
 against ftp.debian.org.
 
 However, the current version of quik in unstable works around this, and
 I've approved that for testing, so that should fix this bug too. It's
 still ugly that quik is installed, but 

Bug#284128: GRUB fails with Sarge RC2

2004-12-03 Thread Maxime GEORGE-BOURREAU
Package: installation-reports
Debian-installer-version:
Sarge i386 RC2
Downloaded the 2004/12/01
on http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/cd-images/debian-weekly/i386/sarge-i386-1.iso
uname -a:
Date: 2004/12/02
Method: install from cd-rom
Machine: Acer Aspire 1300
Processor: Athlon
Memory: 256MB
Root Device: IDE
Root Size/partition table:
  Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *   1 608 4883728+   b  W95 FAT32
/dev/hda2 609243214651280f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hda5 609 632  192748+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/hda6 6331440 6490228+  83  Linux
/dev/hda714412092 5237158+  83  Linux
/dev/hda820932432 2731018+  83  Linux
Output of lspci and lspci -n:
Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[E]
Reboot: [ ]
Comments/Problems:
/dev/hda6 contains a previously installed Sarge RC1, ReiserFS
I try an install of Sarge RC2 on /dev/hda7, ReiserFS
GRUB seems to fail when it seeks partitions

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sarge installer and 3rd party modules

2004-12-03 Thread Bart Duchesne
Hi all,
I've been trying to get my system installed with the latest 
sarge-netinst image using a USB flashdisk.

I have a supermicro system containing a marvell 4-port SATA controller, 
I received the driver source from supermicro compiled it for 2.6.8-1-386 
and put the resulting module on the USB stick.

The installer boots allows me to configure country/language/keyboard, 
before the install program itself starts I exit to a shell and load the 
mv_sata.ko driver, it loads correctly and disks are detected.
I can continue to setup the system (even the RAID ; it surprised me but 
you guys made really a great installer).
But when installing the base system, there suddendly comes an error 
while creating the initrd image that it cannot find the mv_sata module 
and the installer stops.

What is the best way to include a 3rd party module that works as it 
should in the installer process ?

regards,
Bart Duchesne
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Re: please test new quik with initrd-support (was: Re: getting quik into sarge?

2004-12-03 Thread simon
Ce jour Sun, 28 Nov 2004, Christian Leimer a dit:

 Hi!
 
 Can someone please post a sample quik.conf?
 
 Do you use the ramdisk option or the append string one, any other settings?
 
 I have an Umax S900 and it does not work here.
 Says something about can not find the root device.
 
 I use an adaptec uw2940 and a ext3 formated hd. Maybe this is the
 troublemaker.

adaptec 2940uw can't boot from. and do not use anything BUT ext2 for
quik, it does not have ext3 or other support.

 And what is that chosen/bootargs= for?

that gets initialised only when a client OS (e.g., like linux) gets
loaded into memory.

 Thanks.
 
 Bye chris.
 
 
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Bug#276482: acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#276482: installer creates too small extended partition)

2004-12-03 Thread xerces8
Anton Zinoviev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :

 Yes, the installer creates the extended partition as small as possible.
 This is not a problem because the extended partition can always be
 resized provided it doesn't cover some primary partition.
 
 Most partitioning programs can resize the extended partition.  For
 example cfdisk does this for you whithout your knowledge.  Parted also
 can resize the extended partition.

I must disagree here. No tool that I tried could extend the partition.
It is not the job of the user to go around and hunt for a tool that happens
to work. Especially if he used for 15 years partitions that did not require
such an exercise.
For the record, I tried fdisk ( util-linux ) and Disk Manegement under Windows 
XP.
Maybe some other tool too, I don't remember.

So what are the advantegs of this, let's say unusual, partitioning ?
Because this is the first time I see such a thing.

Thanks for your time,
David




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Bug#283233: static user needed; rest done in base-config

2004-12-03 Thread Joey Hess
I have made base-config add the first user to plugdev, if that group
exists. So we only need a static plugdev group to be added in
base-passwd and this will be fixed. See
http://oskuro.net/blog/freesoftware/gnome-2.8-sarge-2004-12-03-18-19 for
some good reasoning about why this will become a FAQ if it's not fixed.

Note that pmount's postinst does this, which should not break or even
complain if the group already exists:

addgroup --quiet --system plugdev || true

The group is not deleted when plugdev is removed, so that's ok too.

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Re: please test new quik with initrd-support

2004-12-03 Thread simon
Ce jour Sun, 28 Nov 2004, Simon Vallet a dit:

 On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:58:48 +0100
 Holger Levsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 kernel-image-2.6.9-powerpc and initrd : I get stuck at 
 VFS : Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (1,0),
 which is what I experienced with previous quik versions.

do you have support for the device you're trying to boot from? adaptec 2940
isn't bootable, period. it's missing an OF 'open' word.

 Here are the relevant quik.conf options I used :
 
 image=/boot/vmlinux-2.6.9-powerpc
 append=root=/dev/ram0 initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.6.9-powerpc
 video=radeonfb:1024 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Label=Test
 
 Are there other kernel command-line options to try ?

read man quik.conf.

also an option that was added with the new code, is that pause-after=
option another list member posted. probably should go in the same
section as the root= and partition= options.

eric

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Re: please test new quik with initrd-support

2004-12-03 Thread simon
Ce jour Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Simon Vallet a dit:

 On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:05:03 +0100
 Peter 'p2' De Schrijver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The quik.conf should be :
  
  image=/boot/vmlinux-2.6.9-powerpc
  append=root=/dev/ram video=radeonfb:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.6.9-powerpc
  Label=test
 
 this works indeed *much* better :-)
 
 The kernel boots fine,with some glitches :
 - the video output is not sent to the third party video card, despite
 the video= option. This is a Radeon 7000, which is set as OF
 output-device. I get kernel messages and login prompt on the built-in
 RageII, although the radeon is recognized by the kernel.
 
 - neither network adapter is recognized -- eth0 is a natsemi card, and
 eth1 is a BMAC -- but I suppose this is purely a missing module problem
 
  Could you send me the boot log ?
 
 Attached are the boot.log, relevant kern.log parts, and a dmesg output

2.6.9 boots on yours? i get a kernel segfault when route sets up the
ipv6 routes

eric

 HTH,
 Simon
 
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Re: please test new quik with initrd-support (was: Re: getting quik into sarge?

2004-12-03 Thread simon
Ce jour Sun, 28 Nov 2004, Colin Watson a dit:

 On Fri, Nov 26, 2004 at 10:58:48AM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
  and, better not to forget, the new quik.deb is available at 
  http://www.ulyssis.org/~p2/debjes/
 
 Could the quik.conf(5) man page also be modified to include
 documentation of the initrd option? I'd be more comfortable with
 modifying quik-installer to match then.

i meant to do some doc updates in my last update, but i ran out of time (was 
leaving
for ottawa), so i didn't get a chance to do so :(. in my next upload i
will have the updated docs (initrd= and pause-after= included).

eric
 
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[d-i manual] Call to update translation (es and pt_BR)

2004-12-03 Thread Frans Pop
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Hello fellow translators,

Currently the Portuguese and Spanish translations of the installation 
manual are somewhat outdated:

es: 21 files not up-to-date
pt_BR : 58 files not up-to-date

(The other languages are fairly up-to-date AFAICT. Not sure about Czech.)

As there will be (at least) one more build of the initrd's before the 
release of Sarge, you still have time to update your translations.

Although the changes are not major, there are some fairly important 
updates for a few architectures.

As you may know, the SVN repository has been branched for Sarge. However, 
as there currently are no differences for the manual between trunk and 
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For the short term at least I plan to synchronize the Sarge branch with 
trunk at least once a week.

Cheers,
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Re: Summary / new quik available (was Re: please test new quik with initrd-support (was: Re: getting quik into sarge?

2004-12-03 Thread simon
Ce jour Fri, 03 Dec 2004, Holger Levsen a dit:

i'd appreciate not having it hijacked from under me. i don't mind
getting help, and i do appreciate that, but i get the feeling it's being
hijacked from me. you could at least tell me WTF is going on.

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Bug#283983: FWD: Sarge debian-installer

2004-12-03 Thread Joey Hess
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From: Emeric Maschino [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 03 Dec 2004 10:08:43 +0100
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Sarge debian-installer
Organization: 
X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) 

Hello,

Am I the only one having problems with the RC2 or daily-built Sarge
debian-installer? It works flawlessly if you choose 2.4 VGA console in
the install menu, but 2.6 VGA console is an other story.

On my hp workstation i2000, the only way to install Sarge using a 2.6
kernel is with a serial console (the keyboard isn't working with 2.6 VGA
console). Once the base system is installed and I'm asked to reboot, if
I switch back to a VGA console by removing the line
append=console=ttyS0,115200n8 from elilo.conf, I'm given a completely
unusable system since the keyboard is still not responding. Please note
this is PS/2 keyboard, not a USB device. I already noticed this problem
3 months back (see the Linux kernel 2.6 freezes on my hp workstation
i2000 post on the www.gelato.org website). The problem is due to the
fact that the i8042 and AT keyboard supports are compiled as modules and
are not loaded. I had to boot with a recovery CD to manually add i8042,
atkbd and psmouse lines in the /etc/modules file to have a usable
system. Is there a good reason to build the i8042 and keyboard support
as modules? In this case, why isn't the /etc/modules file automatically
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Bug#283983: ia64 ps2 keyboard no worky

2004-12-03 Thread Joey Hess
See the forwarded mail from debian-ia64 for some details. I notice that
rootskel has some code for powerpc to modprobe i8042 and atkbd on
chrp|chrp_pegasos|prep. Seems we should do this for ia64 too, but I'm
puzzled how that manages to get the modules loaded after these system
reboot, since it does not register-module those modules.

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Bug#283142: Quik fails to install on beige G3

2004-12-03 Thread simon
Ce jour Sat, 27 Nov 2004, Sven Luther a dit:

 On Fri, Nov 26, 2004 at 11:55:30PM +, Clive Menzies wrote:
  On (26/11/04 22:39), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   reassign #283142 debian-installer
   thanks
  installer and may have imagined I saw vmlinuz and unfortunately I
  didn't have time to repeat the process to make sure.
 
 Actually, there is a vmlinuz on prep and chrp machines, and even for oldworld
 .coff kernels. The vmlinuz symlink (actually it is /boot/vmlinuz, not
 /vmlinuz) is provided by the 2.4 kernel, both the -chrp and -prep one, and
 probably by the -pmac also, since it provides the .coff vmlinuz kernel.

ah, i see. thank you for the info.

 Friendly,
 
 Sven Luther
 

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Re: Re: Debian-install kernel and AIC-7901

2004-12-03 Thread Jan Medlock
Joey Hess wrote:
 Jan Medlock wrote:
 I tried the d-i daily for 23 Nov 2004, which seems to use the same
 kernel source (2.6.8-1) and, thus, has the same problem.  Can anyone
 confirm this is the case?

 IIRC this is a known problem with the 2.6.8 kernel and it's fixed in
 the newest kernel debs and udebs. Those udebs were uploaded yesterday,
 and should be on tomorrow's daily build of the installer.
I'm still having the same trouble with the latest (02.Dec) installer 
with an AIC-7901 SCSI controller.  The following changelog entry is from 
the latest kernel-source-2.6.8 update (-10):

* Fix missing backport of ssleep declaration so that new aic7xxx works.
Thanks Matt Taggart for pointing out the problem. (Joshua Kwan)
I wonder if this is still causing the problem.  Any ideas?
On a related note, I've been trying to use the linux-kernel-di-i386-2.6 
and debian-installer source packages to make a 2.6.9 kernel image to use 
with d-i with no success.  Using either the images in sid or ones I 
compile myself, the kernel is unable to load the root filesystem and panics.

How can I find out what version of kernel-source-2.6.8 is used to 
generate the d-i kernels?  How can see the .config used?

Thanks,
Jan Medlock
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Bug#273982: partman: Broken display during Arabic installs

2004-12-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 05:08:16PM +0200, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 07:38:19AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
  
  The attached screen captures show the main partman screen and the partition
  aditiing screen during an Arabic install. As you may see, the display is
  somewhat broken. For instance the partition size and the unit are not close
  together and the display is not properly aligned.
  
  This is probably a consequence of formatting with a left-to-right
  reasoning and will probably affect all install with right-to-left languages.

 What algorithms are used to format the screen for such languages?

One problem with Arabic displays is simply that RTL text ought to be
*right*-justified, instead of left-justified, within a field; this is a
low-level issue with the way information is being passed to libslang about
how much screen real estate a given string should occupy.  Fixing this means
that libslang should know how wide the available field is, and pad the
string with spaces at the end to get the desired formatting effect.

Another issue is that some of the Arabic translations for partman seem to be
just plain screwy:

#. Type: text
#. Description
#: ../partman.templates:252
#, no-c-format
msgid SCSI%s (%s,%s,%s) (%s)
msgstr SCSI%s )%s%s%s(

#. Type: text
#. Description
#: ../partman.templates:256
#, no-c-format
msgid SCSI%s (%s,%s,%s), partition #%s (%s)
msgstr %s (%s,%s,%s),  #%s (%s)

While the rules regarding bidi transitions are rather complex (and setting
aside for the moment the inconsistency of whether or not to translate
SCSI), it's clear that these translation's can't *both* be right: the
parentheses need to go one way or the other, not just picking one at random.

Which way to go is up to the Arabic translators, I think, but if they decide
to use the parenthesis inversion (which I imagine is the more natural style
in Arabic), they will also need to use a direction marker so that the string
actually gets formatted right-to-left!  The necessary marker appears to be
Unicode character U+200f, RIGHT-TO-LEFT MARK.  Unfortunately, I can't seem
to actually make this work in testing here (outside of d-i); I'm happy to
float some patched po files to you, Christian, if you have time to look into
this further to confirm whether the results are correct under d-i itself.

Oh, and the fact that the translation of the first string above has a
different number of %s substitutions than the original can't help matters...

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Bug#273982: partman: Broken display during Arabic installs

2004-12-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 07:21:40PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
 While the rules regarding bidi transitions are rather complex (and setting
 aside for the moment the inconsistency of whether or not to translate
 SCSI), it's clear that these translation's can't *both* be right: the
 parentheses need to go one way or the other, not just picking one at random.

 Which way to go is up to the Arabic translators, I think, but if they decide
 to use the parenthesis inversion (which I imagine is the more natural style
 in Arabic), they will also need to use a direction marker so that the string
 actually gets formatted right-to-left!  The necessary marker appears to be
 Unicode character U+200f, RIGHT-TO-LEFT MARK.  Unfortunately, I can't seem
 to actually make this work in testing here (outside of d-i); I'm happy to
 float some patched po files to you, Christian, if you have time to look into
 this further to confirm whether the results are correct under d-i itself.

Further research shows that RIGHT-TO-LEFT MARK is used for modifying the RTL
property of the preceding character; two other modifiers, RIGHT-TO-LEFT
EMBEDDING and RIGHT-TO-LEFT OVERRIDE, are more relevant to changing the
orientation of strings.

http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/msdn/Control.aspx has some information
about these control characters, though I'm afraid I didn't find it very
enlightening about the difference between EMBEDDING and OVERRIDE here.  I'm
still trying to trial-and-error my way to something that turns the string
the right way around.

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Bug#273982: partman: Broken display during Arabic installs

2004-12-03 Thread Steve Langasek
The attached patch is a proof-of-concept of fixing the muddled Arabic
displays in partman using Unicode bidi control characters.  It's not
comprehensive, and it's actually not suitable for use as-is because the two
strings involved are still inconsistent in their handling of the text
SCSI; but it does introduce consistent use of parentheses and Arabic
punctuation, and demonstrates how various control characters (U+202E,
U+202A, U+202C) can be used to override the direction of otherwise LTR
character sequences.

Christian, any chance you'd be able to test this out in d-i?  My main d-i
box remains an alpha w/o bterm support.

Thanks,
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Index: partman/debian/po/ar.po
===
--- partman/debian/po/ar.po (revision 24176)
+++ partman/debian/po/ar.po (working copy)
@@ -439,14 +439,14 @@
 #: ../partman.templates:252
 #, no-c-format
 msgid SCSI%s (%s,%s,%s) (%s)
-msgstr SCSI%s )%s%s%s(
+msgstr SCSI%s (%s%s%s) (%s)
 
 #. Type: text
 #. Description
 #: ../partman.templates:256
 #, no-c-format
 msgid SCSI%s (%s,%s,%s), partition #%s (%s)
-msgstr %s (%s,%s,%s),  #%s (%s)
+msgstr %s (%s%s%s)  #%s (%s)
 
 #. Type: text
 #. Description


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Bug#273982: partman: Broken display during Arabic installs

2004-12-03 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 Christian, any chance you'd be able to test this out in d-i?  My main d-i
 box remains an alpha w/o bterm support.


Hmmm, maybe but I can't promise anything. My week-end will have few
windows for hacking.




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