Classical G-I crash on PPC [was: Re: [G-I] ppc dailies are still missing cyrillic fonts]

2006-06-04 Thread Eddy Petrişor

On 6/4/06, Davide Viti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


does this mean that the problem got fixed (as expected) with Colin's latest 
changes?


I can't tell, the iamge does not boot.
I will add this info to the wiki.

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Re: ATTENTION: d-i build machines need upgrae to glibc >= 2.3.6-11

2006-06-04 Thread Kenshi Muto
At 2 Jun 06 10:11:24 GMT,
Geert Stappers wrote:
> On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 11:58:26AM +0100, Thiemo Seufer wrote:
> > 
> > The advice might be a bit over the top, 2.3.6-13 is supposed to fix
> > that particular bug, which AFAICS means older images will work again
> > once it is built and in the archive.
> 
> 
> FYI: the daily build sparc has now 2.3.6-13 installed

arm has also.
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Bug#370398: debian-installer: support testing memory

2006-06-04 Thread Matt Taggart
Package: debian-installer
Version: 20060604
Severity: wishlist

One of the first things I do before installing a new debian system is run 
memtest86+ on it for a while. I read somewhere that Ubuntu dapper's new 
installer has some sort of memory tester (I guess they have isolinux/syslinux 
launch memtest86+).

Has this been considered for d-i?

The memtest86+ option is one possibility, but it's i386 specific. Another 
option might be providing a udeb of the "memtester" utility. I haven't used it 
but it appears to be a Linux userspace app and not i386 specific. So that 
might be a better fit for Debian.

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Re: wget failing in a recent d-i build

2006-06-04 Thread Black Dew

David Härdeman wrote:
I've tried to downgrade busybox, but that didn't help, and now I'm 
running out of ideas...is anyone else seeing this?


The error message from wget is:
~ # wget http://www.debian.org
wget: www.debian.org: Unknown server error


Happens here too with the latest snapshot.

It does work if you put an ip address instead, so i guess something 
about resolving is borked.


I've looked thru the logs and didn't find anything suspicious, so no 
idea why it hapens



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Bug#370318: tasksel: Please provide hardinfo in desktop-environment task

2006-06-04 Thread Eduardo Silva
--- Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Eduardo Silva wrote:
> > Hardinfo is both a gtk2 and text program that
> shows all the hardware on the system. 
> > The gtk2 version is placed under system tools menu
> in Gnome, as is very slick, simple 
> > and effective. I find it easier to understand, and
> better than ubuntu's equivalent.
> >  
> > A gui program like this is very important in the
> desktop-environment task, I think, 
> > because the #1 question users have when some
> hardware isn't working is, "but what 
> > hardware do I have?". Using this program, they
> don't have to learn the more exoteric 
> > lspci and lsusb commands.
> 
> Good idea. You said it was a text program too; if so
> it might make sense
> to integrate it into installation reports. But I
> cannot seem to find a
> way to run it in text mode.

I'm sorry, after all it doesn't run in text mode!... I
was trying out some hardware-reporting programs, and I
mixed both hardinfo and hwinfo together. It's a pitty
it doesn't work on the command line... I searched for
its website to make sure  (
http://hardinfo.berlios.de/wiki/index.php/Main_Page ),
and nope, it doesn't ...

There's also hwinfo:

"hwinfo is collecting information about the hardware
installed on a system. Among others, libhd contains
information about
 cdrom, zip, floppy, disks and partitions, network
card, graphics card, monitor, camera, mouse, sound,
pppoe, isdn, modem,
 printer, scanner, bios, cpu, usb, memory and smp.
"
It needs to be run as root, and hwinfo gives a _very_
detailed report, while 'hwinfo --short' gives a short
one.

>I guess it's worth considering that the desktop task
already has
>hal-device-manager, which probably provides a lot
more details about
>more hardware. However, hardinfo does have some nice
things, including
>the benchmarks and a broader focus (cups, etc).

Ah, I didn't see it, because my installation didn't
have it (used d-i beta2 netinstall cd).

OH MY ... http://www.geocities.com/jobezone/index.html

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Something is wrong in the daily build process for debian testing netinst and businesscard images

2006-06-04 Thread Rick Thomas

Package: debian-installer


Interestingly enough, though I first discovered this on the "powerpc"  
it's not unique to the "powerpc" -- the same thing seems to be  
happening for "i386".




Looking at the DebianInstaller/FAQ - Debian Wiki question 29 takes us  
to:


	http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/ 
FAQ#head-1b80545b9731828a5f8298ff1b431748501b4382


Q: What types of media are available? What versions are available?  
Where to download?


Which points to

http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

Going to the testing daily netinst cd image for powerpc takes us to

	http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/ 
powerpc/iso-cd/


Which contains:

Index of /cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd
Name Last modified  Size

Parent Directory  -
MD5SUMS  31-May-2006 02:57   69
debian-testing-powerpc-businesscard.iso  04-Jun-2006 02:57   58M
debian-testing-powerpc-netinst.iso   04-Jun-2006 02:59  167M

Apache/2.0.53 (Debian GNU/Linux) Server at cdimage.debian.org Port 80



Note the respective dates of the MD5SUMS file and the ".iso" images!

The MD5SUMS file contains:

35e5eb99fd6fd3cf99d1eccf85ea6a9c  debian-testing-powerpc-netinst.iso


There is nothing for the businesscard image!  Not that it matters,  
because when you download the netinst image, its md5 checksum doesn't  
match the one given in the MD5SUMS file.  Which is not really  
surprising given the respective dates.



Something's wrong...

If this is not the right place to get daily testing images, then the  
links should be changed -- and incidentally, what *is* this directory  
for anyway?


If it is the right place to get daily testing images, then the build  
process is broken and ought to be fixed.



Rick



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Bug#370318: tasksel: Please provide hardinfo in desktop-environment task

2006-06-04 Thread Joey Hess
Eduardo Silva wrote:
> Hardinfo is both a gtk2 and text program that shows all the hardware on the 
> system. 
> The gtk2 version is placed under system tools menu in Gnome, as is very 
> slick, simple 
> and effective. I find it easier to understand, and better than ubuntu's 
> equivalent.
>  
> A gui program like this is very important in the desktop-environment task, I 
> think, 
> because the #1 question users have when some hardware isn't working is, "but 
> what 
> hardware do I have?". Using this program, they don't have to learn the more 
> exoteric 
> lspci and lsusb commands.

Good idea. You said it was a text program too; if so it might make sense
to integrate it into installation reports. But I cannot seem to find a
way to run it in text mode.

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Bug#370318: tasksel: Please provide hardinfo in desktop-environment task

2006-06-04 Thread Joey Hess
I guess it's worth considering that the desktop task already has
hal-device-manager, which probably provides a lot more details about
more hardware. However, hardinfo does have some nice things, including
the benchmarks and a broader focus (cups, etc).

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wget failing in a recent d-i build

2006-06-04 Thread David Härdeman

Hey all,

I did a new d-i build today for partman-crypto testing, and it seems 
that wget no longer works, meaning that the Release file is not 
downloaded and things fall apart after that.


I've tried to downgrade busybox, but that didn't help, and now I'm 
running out of ideas...is anyone else seeing this?


The error message from wget is:
~ # wget http://www.debian.org
wget: www.debian.org: Unknown server error

Re,
David


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Re: Bug#370098: tasksel: Desktop Environment installs both firefox and galeon

2006-06-04 Thread Joey Hess
Josselin Mouette wrote:
> No. Both epiphany and galeon depend on libxul, not firefox. Something
> else must have brought firefox.

The desktop task pulls in firefox.

> As galeon is more compliant with the GNOME HIG than firefox, it makes
> sense to give it a higher priority than firefox. The problem here is
> that firefox shouldn't have been installed.

Yes it should; it's the browser a great many users expect to have
installed with their desktop.

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Re: Debian IRC channels moving to OFTC....we shoudl do something

2006-06-04 Thread Joey Hess
Marco d'Itri wrote:
> People used OFTC for development channels even when it was not
> "official", why do you want to set a double standard now?

The d-i team has never used more than one channel. We're a small team
who can agree on a single channel to use.

(FWIW, I will be leaving #debian-boot on freenode as soon as CIA gets
subscribed to it on oftc. It might also be relevant to note that I do
not use #debian-devel because I refuse to be on two channels for it and
the useless split into two channels greatly decreases the utility of
using either channel. I'm hopeful that the irc.d.o move might amelorate
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Re: Integration of the DFB backend into current GTK+ 2.8.17 sources

2006-06-04 Thread Attilio Fiandrotti

Josselin Mouette wrote:

Le vendredi 26 mai 2006 à 10:01 +0200, Attilio Fiandrotti a écrit :


Hi all

I'm writing to you just to know if the patch i wrote [1] to add a DFB 
backend to GTK+ 2.8.17 is appliable to current debian 2.8.17 GTK+ sources.



Sorry for not answering earlier, but I've been exhausted these days. I
hope I'll have a chance to look into it this weekend, and will tell you
more about it.

I support this patch requires newer directfb and cairo packages, are
these packages available somewhere?


hi

i've just updated the section [1] of DirectFB wiki about how to build 
2.8.x GTK+ with DFB backend (updated to GTK+ 2.8.17).

Please, tell me if the howto is clear enough.

friendly

Attilio

[1] 
http://www.directfb.org/wiki/index.php/Projects:GTK_on_DirectFB#2.8.17_Version



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Re: Graphical Installer GTKDFB 2.9 issue

2006-06-04 Thread Attilio Fiandrotti

Eddy Petrişor wrote:

On 6/4/06, Attilio Fiandrotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Eddy Petrişor wrote:
> On 6/4/06, Attilio Fiandrotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> > AND
>> > I'm not 100% sure but it seems as if the Screenshot button isn't
>> > selectable with TAB. It's ignored while switching around.
>>
>> That was meant to be a feature to facilitate installation: when you 
tab

>> between widgets you usually don't want to tab also over the screenshot
>> button, that's rarely used.
>
>
> Yes, but an accelerator key should be available for the screenshot
> button (Ctrl+s, maybe?)
>
yes, but if you introduce an accelerator you should also document it
somewhere and the idea of introducing a "Help" button that pops up a
window that lists all GTK-specific accelerator keys was rejected some
times ago.



I think that having a character underlined would be quite intuitive
for many people ('though usually that means Alt+)



ok, i just have to look for a key combination that means nothing to DFB's wm

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Re: Graphical Installer GTKDFB 2.9 issue

2006-06-04 Thread Eddy Petrişor

On 6/4/06, Attilio Fiandrotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Eddy Petrişor wrote:
> On 6/4/06, Attilio Fiandrotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> > AND
>> > I'm not 100% sure but it seems as if the Screenshot button isn't
>> > selectable with TAB. It's ignored while switching around.
>>
>> That was meant to be a feature to facilitate installation: when you tab
>> between widgets you usually don't want to tab also over the screenshot
>> button, that's rarely used.
>
>
> Yes, but an accelerator key should be available for the screenshot
> button (Ctrl+s, maybe?)
>
yes, but if you introduce an accelerator you should also document it
somewhere and the idea of introducing a "Help" button that pops up a
window that lists all GTK-specific accelerator keys was rejected some
times ago.


I think that having a character underlined would be quite intuitive
for many people ('though usually that means Alt+)

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Bug#370318: tasksel: Please provide hardinfo in desktop-environment task

2006-06-04 Thread Eduardo Silva
Package: tasksel
Version: 2.44
Severity: wishlist

Hardinfo is both a gtk2 and text program that shows all the hardware on the 
system. 
The gtk2 version is placed under system tools menu in Gnome, as is very slick, 
simple 
and effective. I find it easier to understand, and better than ubuntu's 
equivalent.
 
A gui program like this is very important in the desktop-environment task, I 
think, 
because the #1 question users have when some hardware isn't working is, "but 
what 
hardware do I have?". Using this program, they don't have to learn the more 
exoteric 
lspci and lsusb commands.

-- System Information:
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  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (700, 'testing'), (600, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.16-2-k7
Locale: LANG=pt_PT.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=pt_PT.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)

Versions of packages tasksel depends on:
ii  aptitude  0.4.1-1terminal-based apt frontend
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.1  Debian configuration management sy
ii  laptop-detect 0.12.1 attempt to detect a laptop
ii  liblocale-gettext-perl1.05-1 Using libc functions for internati

tasksel recommends no packages.

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  tasksel/tasks:


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Re: Short feedback about the ``Debian Installer etch beta 2''

2006-06-04 Thread Thomas Schwinge
On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 07:12:27AM -0400, I wrote:
> The installation went flawlessly then!  :-)

The first reboot also did.  But then I `apt-get upgrade'd and rebooted
again.  Booting stops with ``Waiting for root file system...'', dropping
into a shell after some time.  There I run `insmod ide-disk', followed by
`vgchange -ay vg0' (my root file system is on LVM) and exit the shell to
successfully boot the system.

Installed are
  - initramfs-tools 0.60
  - udev 0.085-1
  - linux-image-2.6.15-1-486 2.6.15-8
  - linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 2.6.15-8

I tried with both kernel images.

As a workaround, I put ``ide-disk'' into the otherwise-empty
/etc/mkinitramfs/modules and rebuilt the initrd.


#v+
$ udevinfo -p /block/hda -a

udevinfo starts with the device the node belongs to and then walks up the
device chain, to print for every device found, all possibly useful attributes
in the udev key format.
Only attributes within one device section may be used together in one rule,
to match the device for which the node will be created.

  looking at device '/block/hda':
KERNEL=="hda"
SUBSYSTEM=="block"
SYSFS{stat}=="8509 3228   172539   142600 931355845   
130510 100448780   176880 10254428"
SYSFS{size}=="4224150"
SYSFS{removable}=="0"
SYSFS{range}=="64"
SYSFS{dev}=="3:0"

  looking at device '/devices/pci:00/:00:07.1/ide0/0.0':
ID=="0.0"
BUS=="ide"
DRIVER=="ide-disk"

  looking at device '/devices/pci:00/:00:07.1/ide0':
ID=="ide0"
BUS==""
DRIVER==""

  looking at device '/devices/pci:00/:00:07.1':
ID==":00:07.1"
BUS=="pci"
DRIVER=="PIIX_IDE"
SYSFS{modalias}=="pci:v8086d7111svsdbc01sc01i80"
SYSFS{local_cpus}=="1"
SYSFS{irq}=="0"
SYSFS{class}=="0x010180"
SYSFS{subsystem_device}=="0x"
SYSFS{subsystem_vendor}=="0x"
SYSFS{device}=="0x7111"
SYSFS{vendor}=="0x8086"

  looking at device '/devices/pci:00':
ID=="pci:00"
BUS==""
DRIVER==""

#v-


#v+
$ lspci -v
:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX Host bridge 
(rev 03)
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64
Memory at e000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
Capabilities: 

:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX AGP bridge 
(rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64
Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=64
I/O behind bridge: d000-dfff
Memory behind bridge: e400-e7ff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: e800-e8ff

:00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 01)
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0

:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) 
(prog-if 80 [Master])
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64
I/O ports at f000 [size=16]

:00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) 
(prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 10
I/O ports at e000 [size=32]

:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 01)
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 9

:00:09.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] 
(rev 24)
Subsystem: 3Com Corporation 3C905B Fast Etherlink XL 10/100
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 12
I/O ports at e400 [size=128]
Memory at ea00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128]
Expansion ROM at e900 [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: 

:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G200 AGP (rev 
01) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: Matrox Graphics, Inc. Millennium G200 AGP
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11
Memory at e800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=16M]
Memory at e400 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Memory at e500 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8M]
Expansion ROM at e401 [disabled] [size=64K]
Capabilities: 

#v-


Regards,
 Thomas


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Re: Debian IRC channels moving to OFTC....we shoudl do something

2006-06-04 Thread Marco d'Itri
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>> >After tha announcement of irc.debian.org being moved to OFTC, I think
>> >we should take care of moving #debian-boot there.
>> Why?
>Because it makes sense to have the Debian Installer development
>channel on the Debian IRC server.
People used OFTC for development channels even when it was not
"official", why do you want to set a double standard now?

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Bug#370172: cdebconf-gtk-udeb: yes/no questions through checkbox aren't understandable

2006-06-04 Thread Joey Hess
Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
> This cold be easily implemented by not displaying the boolean question's 
> description above it, like this
> 
> Question's extended description
> 
> [ ] Question's description

The extended description shouldn't usually be a copy of the short
description, which is what this bug showed being displayed..

> >Or, if you're going to use the button-* strings, why not use buttons:
> >
> >White the changes to disks? [yes] [no]
> >
> 
> This is a little less clean: the general approach in the GTK frontend is 
> delegating to [back] and [forward] buttons only returning from 
> frontend_go().

Well, you could instead use radio buttons for the yes/no selection..

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Bug#370172: cdebconf-gtk-udeb: yes/no questions through checkbox aren't understandable

2006-06-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Joey Hess, le Sat 03 Jun 2006 23:20:05 -0400, a écrit :
> Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
> > >Write the changes to disks?
> > >
> > >[ ] Write the changes to disks?
> > >
> > >A simple correction for now could be to just not repeat the question:
> > >
> > >Write the changes to disks?
> > >
> > >[ ] Yes.
> > 
> > I agree with you and this can be easily done, as cdebconf package 
> > provides debconf/button-yes and debconf/button-no templates.
> > Does anyonne see any possible problem that could arise with the "yes/no" 
> > approach ?
> 
> Why not just:
> 
> [ ] Write the changes to disks?

This phrasing is a bit strange: checkbox are usually used with
affirmative labels, not questions.

Samuel


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Re: Fw: Bug#369664: Graphical DebianInstaller does not save passwords

2006-06-04 Thread Holger Wansing
Hello,

On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 17:27:06 +0200 B. Janssen wrote:
> Hi Holger, hi Attilio,
> 
> i just performed an Etch installation on the original machine, albeit on 
>   another partition.

> I have noticed some unrelated problems mainly concerned with the 
> localization (i'm a freelance translator and proofreader and tend to 
> notice this stuff...)

Please post details here...
I will pick this up.

> Björn


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Short feedback about the ``Debian Installer etch beta 2''

2006-06-04 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hello!

I just spent some time trying to install Debian testing i386 (etch beta 2
release, netinst CD image) on a system with only 32 MiB of RAM...  (No, I
don't intend to use the system like that, but I thought I could already
install it, albeit not having the final memory equipment at hand.)

After using the console for adding a swap partition, real problems
nevertheless showed up at the time I was configuring the LVM setup:
lvcreate was OOM-killed by the kernel, although there was swap space
available.  My work-around--after having tried once more--was then to
borrow another 32 MiB of RAM from another system.  In the documentation
it is written that 32 MiB of RAM should be sufficient for installation.

Another issue popped up when the installer was trying to install the main
software packages (i.e. after installing the base system).  The
installation hung.  Lacking a better idea, on the console, I killed the
hanging apt-get and re-ran it by hand, chrooting into /target/.  apt-get
then prompted me to make the Debian CD available at /cdrom--which it was
already.  I interrupted the installer, removed the ``deb cdrom'' line
from /target/etc/apt/sources.list and resumed installation having it
retrieve the packages over the network.

The installation went flawlessly then!  :-)


Regards,
 Thomas


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Bug#369664: Graphical DebianInstaller does not save passwords

2006-06-04 Thread Attilio Fiandrotti

Davide Viti wrote:

Ciao Attilio,

On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 02:27:25AM +0200, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:


Davide Viti wrote:


On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 12:11:25AM +0700, Christian Perrier wrote:



There are also problemns with capitalized letters (already reported).



#339352 and #368881 in case you needed to have more infos.

Ciao,
Davide


Bjorn privately reported this bug to have disappeared when using recent 
GTKDFB libraries.
Don't know if this bug shall be closed or left open until GTKDFB 
libraries upgrade is complete.



I'd leave everything open until the new libs hit the archives, so we can use
the bugreports as reminders and as test cases.


ok

Attilio


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Bug#369664: Graphical DebianInstaller does not save passwords

2006-06-04 Thread Davide Viti
Ciao Attilio,

On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 02:27:25AM +0200, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
> Davide Viti wrote:
> >On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 12:11:25AM +0700, Christian Perrier wrote:
> >
> >>There are also problemns with capitalized letters (already reported).
> >
> >
> >#339352 and #368881 in case you needed to have more infos.
> >
> >Ciao,
> >Davide
> 
> Bjorn privately reported this bug to have disappeared when using recent 
> GTKDFB libraries.
> Don't know if this bug shall be closed or left open until GTKDFB 
> libraries upgrade is complete.

I'd leave everything open until the new libs hit the archives, so we can use
the bugreports as reminders and as test cases.

ciao,
Davide


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Re: Bug#370098: tasksel: Desktop Environment installs both firefox and galeon

2006-06-04 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 03 juin 2006 à 13:32 -0700, Eduardo Silva a écrit :
> > Eduardo Silva wrote:
> > > The Desktop Environment task installs galeon and
> > firefox, but I don't 
> > > understand why. Why both?

> > The gnome-desktop-environment depends on
> > epiphany-browser (>= 1.8.5) | galeon (>= 1.3.1 8) |
> > firefox-gnome-support |
> > mozilla-firefox-gnome-support

> I had already written here a big explanation on why
> epiphany should be the only browser, and now I
> remember that it needs firefox, so that's that.

No. Both epiphany and galeon depend on libxul, not firefox. Something
else must have brought firefox.

As galeon is more compliant with the GNOME HIG than firefox, it makes
sense to give it a higher priority than firefox. The problem here is
that firefox shouldn't have been installed.
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Re: [G-I] ppc dailies are still missing cyrillic fonts

2006-06-04 Thread Davide Viti
On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 12:47:13PM +0300, Eddy Petrişor wrote:
> On 6/3/06, Davide Viti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Sat, Jun 03, 2006 at 02:30:38PM +0300, Eddy Petrişor wrote:
> >> No,
> >
> >Are you sure you're testing the latest initrd file and not the old one not 
> >containing
> >dejavu?
> >I know it's an obvious question, but the build log [1] looks ok:
> 
> Ah, crap, my cron job which does the downloading of the image got
> stumbled when trying to remove the old mini.iso and wget downloaded it
> as mini.iso.1.
> 
> The non erasable file was copied from a remote sshfs on my router
> while mounted by root and it inherited the -w attribute for others, so
> the cron job ran as my user could not delete the old file.
> 
> Sorry guys for the false alarm.

does this mean that the problem got fixed (as expected) with Colin's latest 
changes?

ciao,
Davide


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Re: Graphical Installer GTKDFB 2.9 issue

2006-06-04 Thread Attilio Fiandrotti

Eddy Petrişor wrote:

On 6/4/06, Attilio Fiandrotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> AND
> I'm not 100% sure but it seems as if the Screenshot button isn't
> selectable with TAB. It's ignored while switching around.

That was meant to be a feature to facilitate installation: when you tab
between widgets you usually don't want to tab also over the screenshot
button, that's rarely used.



Yes, but an accelerator key should be available for the screenshot
button (Ctrl+s, maybe?)

yes, but if you introduce an accelerator you should also document it 
somewhere and the idea of introducing a "Help" button that pops up a 
window that lists all GTK-specific accelerator keys was rejected some 
times ago.


Attilio


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Re: Graphical Installer GTKDFB 2.9 issue

2006-06-04 Thread Eddy Petrişor

On 6/4/06, Attilio Fiandrotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> AND
> I'm not 100% sure but it seems as if the Screenshot button isn't
> selectable with TAB. It's ignored while switching around.

That was meant to be a feature to facilitate installation: when you tab
between widgets you usually don't want to tab also over the screenshot
button, that's rarely used.


Yes, but an accelerator key should be available for the screenshot
button (Ctrl+s, maybe?)

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Re: [G-I] ppc dailies are still missing cyrillic fonts

2006-06-04 Thread Eddy Petrişor

On 6/3/06, Davide Viti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sat, Jun 03, 2006 at 02:30:38PM +0300, Eddy Petrişor wrote:
> No,

Are you sure you're testing the latest initrd file and not the old one not 
containing
dejavu?
I know it's an obvious question, but the build log [1] looks ok:


Ah, crap, my cron job which does the downloading of the image got
stumbled when trying to remove the old mini.iso and wget downloaded it
as mini.iso.1.

The non erasable file was copied from a remote sshfs on my router
while mounted by root and it inherited the -w attribute for others, so
the cron job ran as my user could not delete the old file.

Sorry guys for the false alarm.

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Bug#370172: cdebconf-gtk-udeb: yes/no questions through checkbox aren't understandable

2006-06-04 Thread Attilio Fiandrotti

Joey Hess wrote:

Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:


Write the changes to disks?

[ ] Write the changes to disks?

A simple correction for now could be to just not repeat the question:

Write the changes to disks?

[ ] Yes.


I agree with you and this can be easily done, as cdebconf package 
provides debconf/button-yes and debconf/button-no templates.
Does anyonne see any possible problem that could arise with the "yes/no" 
approach ?



Why not just:

[ ] Write the changes to disks?


This cold be easily implemented by not displaying the boolean question's 
description above it, like this


Question's extended description

[ ] Question's description


Or, if you're going to use the button-* strings, why not use buttons:

White the changes to disks? [yes] [no]



This is a little less clean: the general approach in the GTK frontend is 
delegating to [back] and [forward] buttons only returning from 
frontend_go().


friendly

Attilio


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