Bug#418850: Usb cdrom unit not automatically recognized by installer

2007-04-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 12 April 2007 23:07, Daniele Pizzolli wrote:
> This line look strange:
> ID_TYPE=floppy

Yes, that is where the problem comes from. Could you also provide the 
output of 'udevinfo -a -p /sys/block/sr0'?

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Re: etch/volatile -- public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3

2007-04-14 Thread Holger Wansing
Hello,

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 20:14:54 +0200 Holger Levsen wrote:
> > 2) What's the reasoning behind not including it in the default debian-
> > archive-keyring package?  Is it not recommended that everyone use
> > volatile for the things like security and spam updates that it provides?
> 
> volatile is not a official service (yet).

Release Notes says it is:

http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#s-volatile


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Re: basic change

2007-04-14 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-04-10 16:25]:
> arcboot-installer
> sibyl-installer
> colo-installer
> delo-installer

I've uploaded these.  Sorry for the delay.
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Processed: Re: Bug#419156: debian-installer-ar: GUI d-i Arabic from DVD fails when selecting all install tasks and using a mirror

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Bug#419156: debian-installer-ar: GUI d-i Arabic from DVD fails when selecting 
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Re: A small udeb contribution from an arm-chair developer

2007-04-14 Thread Michael S Peek

Geert Stappers wrote:

First:
 The idea of promoting of software (enhancements) does intrique me.
 This posting is mostly about "What is so good about these udebs?"

Reading the announce of the multi-netcfg and multi-partman packages,
I couldn't see where the added value is, nor didn't see where
the Debian-installer should/could be improved.

Please try "to sell" the packages to me.

Consider me as an administrator of several computers
who is allready able to install those systems handsfree with d-i
and that I'm willing to change my setup for a better configuration.
  


Hmm...  Not much of a salesman, am I?  All right, let's see here...

Let's say that you have about 50 or 100 (or more) machines that you are 
going to install Debian on, and not all of the machines are the same:

- Some may be low-cost PC workstations with a maximum of 40GB hard dives
- Some may be Sun UltraSPARC SMP servers (or some other non-PC 
architecture machines)
- Some may be high-end, multi-core multimedia boxes w/ a minimum of 
400GB and snappy 3D cards that require special drivers packages to be 
installed
- Machines may be broken up in locations that span multiple buildings 
and multiple subnets.


Whatever their differences, the only thing homogeneous about these 
machines is that they are all to have Debian installed on them.


Furthermore, lets say that for whatever reason, a DHCP server and/or a 
netboot installation just doesn't work for you.  (Maybe you don't have a 
DHCP server and you don't want to take the time to set one up.  Or maybe 
you're in the same boat with me and you don't have access to your 
organization's DHCP server, and whenever a new, unconfigured host 
appears on the net, the DHCP server /always/ gives out the wrong network 
configuration information, so that you can't use DHCP anyway.)


To the best of my knowledge, with the stock Debian installer that you 
have now, you only have two options left to you: do each installation 
manually, or build a separate installation media for each machine, where 
each media includes just the preseed files necessary for that one 
machine.  One approach is just asking for human error, and the second 
approach requires either writing lots of media, or blanking and 
re-writing the media over and over again in between each installation.


What would be nice, instead, is if you could just have one copy of 
installation media per architecture, and place on each media all of the 
preseed information for all of the machines you're installing, and have 
the Debian installer automagically choose the correct set of preseed 
files for each machine.  This is where my multi-config udebs come in.


The first udeb, multi-netcfg, is run just after the ethernet hardware 
has been discovered, but before the network has been configured.  
Multi-netcfg will search for ethernet hardware on the install client and 
build a list of hardware addresses.  Then multi-netcfg will search for a 
preseed file (or a directory containing preseed files) that match any of 
the hardware addresses for the ethernet cards it has found.  If it finds 
anything that matches, then it will read the preseed information into 
the debconf database for use by the installer.  Presumably this preseed 
information includes the necessary network configuration, but it could 
just as easily include hard drive partitioning information, or package 
selection, or X11 configuration -- or anything that can be preseeded for 
udebs that are run after network hardware discovery.  And if no preseed 
file is found that matches for this host, then no harm/no foul, nothing 
is preseeded and networking can still be configured either by DHCP or 
manually by the admin.


The second udeb, multi-partman is very similar in function.  It's run 
after the drives have been discovered but before partitioning occurs.  
It too will search for preseed files based on ethernet hardware 
addresses, but it can also search for preseed files based on hostname, 
IP address, or the number and sizes of disks found.  It also has a 
fallback feature where a generic partitioning preseed file can be used 
in the event that no other preseed files/directories match for this 
install client.  And again, if no preseed file is found that matches 
this install client (and no default has been specified), then 
partitioning can still be done manually by the admin.


The inspiration for these udebs was a desire to minimize human error as 
well as effort. The udebs are tiny (1.5k and 1.9k respectively), and are 
architecture-independent, so they should run on any architecture for 
which a port of the Debian installer exists.


Michael Peek

P.S.  Perhaps the situation in which I find myself is merely one small 
niche in the larger Debain administrator community, but it was a niche 
in need of a fill.  Therefore, I give back to the community my solution: 
the multi-config package.


P.P.S. Act now, and I'll even throw in a jpeg of a jade elephant.

P.P.P.S. I'll be rea

Bug#418043: debian installer: problems with timezone, grub & sata drive, noacpi bootparam, and encrypted partitions

2007-04-14 Thread Josh Buhl

> > Comments/Problems:
> > 0. The zeroth problem was booting. Somewhere in the help where you find
> > it right away it says to use noacpi if the system hangs. I tried that
> > and it didn't work. In another spot more buried (I think in the special
> > parameter section) it says use acpi=off. Well, only the acpi=off
> > worked.
> 
> That is basically a kernel problem and nothing we can solve in the 
> installer itself. 

if this is the case, then *both* options obviously need to be be on both help 
pages, not one on one page and the other on a completely different page. In 
particular, both options should be right on that first troubleshooting help 
page where it first talks about what to do if the system hangs on booting.




> 
> > 4. The fourth and worst problem came when I tried to reboot my "new
> > system"...didn't work at all, 
> 

> The dialog actually says "the MBR of the 
> _first_ harddisk".

as far as I'm concerned, my sata1 drive *is* the first harddisk! If you had a 
sata1 drive, a dvd-recorder on hda, and an old ide on hdb, what would you 
consider to be your first harddisk? Is a sata1 drive not a harddisk?

Most importantly, this behaviour isn't mentioned in the dialogue nor documented 
in the guide, so at the very least, this is an important piece of information 
to add to both.



> Closing your report as there were no real new issues. 

I  must say I feel put off by this. Most of the issues are minor (as I myself 
also stated), but the sata problem cost me a lot of time (as did the careful 
documentation and submission of my installation report) and I feel completely 
guiltless in this issue. It's not a faq, it's not in the guide, it's unexpected 
behaviour, and it cost me a couple hours. All you need is to do is add a 
comment to the grub dialogue screen and the guide to the effect that this might 
be a problem. How can you be so cavalier about closing this bug and stating "no 
real issues"? Most new computers have sata drives and many people installing 
new systems will be plugging in some old ide drive to transfer data from.  Are 
you prepared to potentially waste the hours of other people's lives by not 
addressing this real problem? 

I don't think the acpi thing should be so flippantly disregarded either. It's 
just too easy to add a comment on the right page to save users trouble, so why 
not do it?


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Re: Dual boot auto partitioning

2007-04-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 14 April 2007 14:26, Pierre THIERRY wrote:
> I would like to know i fit could be possible to add an option, in
> partman I suppose, to do some autopartitioning while keeping an
> existing OS in place?
>
> If not, would it be possible to adapt the automatic partitioning such
> that they could be told to use all the free space instead of a whole
> disk?

That option is already there, but is only shown if there is free space.

Our our list of plans for Lenny [1] we have adding an option to support 
resizing an existing partition as part of guided partitioning.

Cheers,
FJP

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/LennyGoals


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Re: Add a standardized comment to udeb packages description?

2007-04-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 14 April 2007 08:17, Christian Perrier wrote:
> The following comes from discussions in dle when we proofread the
> debconf templates and package description of udev.
>
> James suggests that packages prodicing udebs should add a comment
> explaining that udebs should not be installed on normal systems. What
> do you think of this proposal?

As Steve already said, I don't feel there is any real risk that udebs will 
get installed on a normal system as you'd have to add a really twisted 
line in your sources.list to get them.

Also, packages.d.o already includes a huge warning with each udeb; see for 
example:
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/debian-installer/grub-installer

So I also don't see any need to standardize such a warning in the package 
descriptions. It would just be a lot of work that does not any real 
value.

Cheers,
FJP


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[g-i] new screenshots available (dejavu 2.16)

2007-04-14 Thread Davide Viti
Hi,
bubulle has kindly uploaded the new version of ttf-dejavu (2.16-1).
I took the usual screenshots; please refer to [1] to see what changed
since version 2.15.

The screenshots can be found in [2], where you can see what changed
from the previous version.
You'll notice there are many differences: it is a bug in pango, which
is said to be currently worked on.
For those who care here is a conversation on #dejavu about the problem:

i think it's the latn {DNK DFLT} that makes pango overkern
i think it's this bug 
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=334758
it only seems to be affecting Latin script, so it's probably 
overkerning with pango
   but what triggered it just starting with 2.16?
 kerning classes?
no
it's the two languages DNK and dflt
before 2.16 the kerning was only latn {dflt}
now it's latn {DNK, dflt}
 moyogo: is there any reason why pango is not fixed yet?
 or do they think that this is not a bug?
   if DejaVu doesn't break things, they won't be fixed
no, behdad wants to fix it, but i think he wants to fix bigger 
things in the process


regards,

Davide

[1] http://dejavu.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/News
[2] http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/gtk-frontend/screenshots



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Bug#329743: Silly ideas exchanged about the memory impact of translations on D-I

2007-04-14 Thread Davide Viti
On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 06:37:30PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> That would mean we have to keep track of which font is needed by what
> language. A new field in languagelist?

yes, probably we need to keep in mind there can be corner cases like
CJK where  a language may need more than just a ttf file (IIRC CJK langs
share glyphs among different ttf files).

regards,
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Re: etch/volatile -- public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3

2007-04-14 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Rick,

On Saturday 14 April 2007 19:33, Rick Thomas wrote:
> 1) How do I import the public key for volatile?  (If it's in the fine
> manual, then please point me to it so I can RTFM)

To be executed as root:

gpg --keyserver pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de --recv-keys AC583520
gpg --fingerprint  AC583520
# compare the fingerprint with a fingerprint on a machine with a trust path
gpg --export -a AC583520 | apt-key add -


This is for a different key, but besides that, that's it - and you may use a 
different keyserver. 

> 2) What's the reasoning behind not including it in the default debian-
> archive-keyring package?  Is it not recommended that everyone use
> volatile for the things like security and spam updates that it provides?

volatile is not a official service (yet).


regards,
Holger


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Re: etch/volatile -- public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3

2007-04-14 Thread Rick Thomas


On Apr 14, 2007, at 6:39 AM, Steve Langasek wrote:


On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 11:21:56PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:

Anybody know what the problem is here?  Or how to fix it?



W: GPG error: http://volatile.debian.org etch/volatile Release: The
following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is
not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems


You need to import the public key for volatile.debian.org  
separately using

apt-key if you want to use this repo with secure apt, the key is not
included in the default debian-archive-keyring package.


Thanks,

Two questions:

1) How do I import the public key for volatile?  (If it's in the fine  
manual, then please point me to it so I can RTFM)


2) What's the reasoning behind not including it in the default debian- 
archive-keyring package?  Is it not recommended that everyone use  
volatile for the things like security and spam updates that it provides?


Enjoy!

Rick


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Re: automate steps thru network console

2007-04-14 Thread John Kelly
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 07:13:45 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Geert
Stappers) wrote:

>> > Is it possible to automate loading the network console component and
>> > setting its ssh password?

>> Try http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetworkConsole

>That Wiki page got just an important update ( and needs more love ;- )

So to get it working, I must build from svn.  No time for that right
now, I was looking for something ready to use.

Thanks for the info, Geert.




Re: Add a standardized comment to udeb packages description?

2007-04-14 Thread Christian Perrier
> > Why, when there is no risk of these packages being inadvertently installed
> > on a normally-configured system?
> 
> Ok, well in that case lets strip the warning off the packages that
> already have it.


We can still keep a small sentence:

fontconfig:

Package: fontconfig-udeb
Section: debian-installer
XC-Package-Type: udeb
Architecture: any
Priority: extra
Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}
Description: generic font configuration library - minimal runtime
 Fontconfig is a font configuration and customization library, which
 does not depend on the X Window System. It is designed to locate
 fonts within the system and select them according to requirements
 specified by applications.
 .
 This package contains the minimal runtime library and configuration,
 only for use in the installation system.



udev:

Package: udev-udeb
XC-Package-Type: udeb
Section: debian-installer
Architecture: any
Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}
Description: /dev/ and hotplug management daemon
 udev is a daemon which dynamically creates and removes device nodes from
 /dev/, handles hotplug events and loads drivers at boot time. It replaces
 the hotplug package and requires a 2.6.12 or later kernel.
 .
 This is a minimal version, only for use in the installation system.




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Bug#329743: Silly ideas exchanged about the memory impact of translations on D-I

2007-04-14 Thread Christian Perrier
> which means that if I install debian using Italian translations
> (and thus using dejavu fonts, used by more than 40 languages), I "waste"
> 5.2 Mb rather than just 660 Kb, which is crazy.
> When using g-i, besides trimming templates.dat, we could delete unused ttf 
> files.


Should be possible, if we go the way of not allowing users to switch
languages after a given step.

That would mean we have to keep track of which font is needed by what
language. A new field in languagelist?




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Re: Add a standardized comment to udeb packages description?

2007-04-14 Thread James Westby
On (14/04/07 12:43), Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 08:17:49AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > The following comes from discussions in dle when we proofread the
> > debconf templates and package description of udev.
> 
> > James suggests that packages prodicing udebs should add a comment
> > explaining that udebs should not be installed on normal systems. What
> > do you think of this proposal?
> 
> Why, when there is no risk of these packages being inadvertently installed
> on a normally-configured system?

Ok, well in that case lets strip the warning off the packages that
already have it.

Thanks,

James

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Bug#418341: "IDE" hardware detection

2007-04-14 Thread Geert Stappers
Op 13-04-2007 om 08:31 schreef Renato S. Yamane:
> Hi Geert,
> I found another bug report about "CD ROM / HD not recognized" in Debian 4.0:
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=418972

With this message to both bugreports are they crosslinked
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=418341


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Re: etch/volatile -- public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3

2007-04-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 11:21:56PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
> Anybody know what the problem is here?  Or how to fix it?

> W: GPG error: http://volatile.debian.org etch/volatile Release: The  
> following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is  
> not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3
> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

You need to import the public key for volatile.debian.org separately using
apt-key if you want to use this repo with secure apt, the key is not
included in the default debian-archive-keyring package.

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Re: Add a standardized comment to udeb packages description?

2007-04-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 08:17:49AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> The following comes from discussions in dle when we proofread the
> debconf templates and package description of udev.

> James suggests that packages prodicing udebs should add a comment
> explaining that udebs should not be installed on normal systems. What
> do you think of this proposal?

Why, when there is no risk of these packages being inadvertently installed
on a normally-configured system?

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Bug#329743: Silly ideas exchanged about the memory impact of translations on D-I

2007-04-14 Thread Davide Viti
On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 05:31:15PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> The following are mostly ideas exchanged in the wild about what could
> be done in cdebconf to reduce the impact of the increasing number of
> translations on the memory requirements of D-I:
 
while on the subject (but on the g-i tip), is worth noticing that alot
of memory is taken up by unused font files:

1332./truetype/ttf-tmuni
132 ./truetype/thai
52  ./truetype/ttf-bpg-georgian
660 ./truetype/ttf-dejavu
136 ./truetype/ttf-farsiweb
664 ./truetype/freefont
268 ./truetype/ttf-khmeros
204 ./truetype/ttf-malayalam-fonts
72  ./truetype/ttf-tamil-fonts
5320./truetype

which means that if I install debian using Italian translations
(and thus using dejavu fonts, used by more than 40 languages), I "waste"
5.2 Mb rather than just 660 Kb, which is crazy.
When using g-i, besides trimming templates.dat, we could delete unused ttf 
files.

regards,
Davide





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Re: A small udeb contribution from an arm-chair developer

2007-04-14 Thread Geert Stappers
Op 14-04-2007 om 02:25 schreef Michael S Peek:
> Hi guys,
> 
> Many moons ago I wrote a few small udebs that I found useful.
   
> If anyone is interested in taking this package under their wing, let me 
> know.


First:
 The idea of promoting of software (enhancements) does intrique me.
 This posting is mostly about "What is so good about these udebs?"



Reading the announce of the multi-netcfg and multi-partman packages,
I couldn't see where the added value is, nor didn't see where
the Debian-installer should/could be improved.

Please try "to sell" the packages to me.

Consider me as an administrator of several computers
who is allready able to install those systems handsfree with d-i
and that I'm willing to change my setup for a better configuration.


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Dual boot auto partitioning

2007-04-14 Thread Pierre THIERRY
I would like to know i fit could be possible to add an option, in
partman I suppose, to do some autopartitioning while keeping an existing
OS in place?

If not, would it be possible to adapt the automatic partitioning such
that they could be told to use all the free space instead of a whole
disk?

Currently, the user has only the choice between erasing everything and
manually partitioning.

Curiously,
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Bug#419211: d-i fails in fetching "Release.gpg" in netboot install of etch r0

2007-04-14 Thread nitesh
Package: installation-reports

Boot method: network
Image version: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r0/i386/iso-dvd/
Date: 14 April 2007, 10 AM
Machine: HP Compaq
Processor: Pentium D
Memory: 1024 MB
Partitions: Did not reach this stage.
Output of lspci -nn and lspci -vnn: Did not reach this stage.

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:   [O]
Detect network card:[O]
Configure network:  [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [E]
Detect hard drives: [ ]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Clock/timezone setup:   [ ]
User/password setup:[ ]
Install tasks:  [ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Overall install:[ ]

Comments/Problems: The d-i says it fails to download a valid Release.gpg file 
from the mirror specified.

I am installing the Debian etch 4.0 r0 onto HP machines through network install 
(PXE boot with DHCP/tftp).
Everything goes alright until it (netboot d-i) tries to fetch the "Release.gpg" 
file from the mirror which is just
another machine running sarge in a LAN. In reality, the ISO (DVD) that I have 
mounted at the HTTP mirror
does not have any "Release.gpg" file in the specified directory.

The path is:

wget "debian/dists/etch/Release.gpg"



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Re: Bug#418998: fontconfig-config: for korean font, Baekmuk is obsolete

2007-04-14 Thread Christian Perrier

> It depends on what our default desktop looks like.
> 
> While ttf-unfonts is a much better choice in antialiased environment
> (GNOME/KDE) or for printing, it's almost unusable in non-antialiased
> environment (ie. traditional X apps). That's why baekmuk is used in
> bf-utf-source, while ttf-unfonts is used for G-I. If we can just ignore
> such traditional apps in the default desktop installation, it's ok to
> drop ttf-baekmuk and xfonts-baekmuk.


I think it's clear, thanks for your answer.

Based on Changwoo's answer, I suggest we keep baekmuk in
korean-desktop. There are enough "traditionnal" X apps to make this
package still useful enough for Korean-speaking users.






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Re: Add a standardized comment to udeb packages description?

2007-04-14 Thread Geert Stappers
Op 14-04-2007 om 08:17 schreef Christian Perrier:
> 
> Please keep both lists CC'ed
> 
> 
> - Forwarded message from James Westby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:18:32 +0100
> Subject: Re: [RFR] templates://udev/{udev.templates}
> 
> On (12/04/07 13:05), Christian Perrier wrote:
> > Please find, for review, the debconf templates of udev.
> > 
> > - the hotplug package and requires a kernel not older than 2.6.12.
> > + the hotplug package and requires a 2.6.12 or later kernel.
> 
> I think it should be "requires a version 2.6.12 or later kernel"

For me reads "requires a 2.6.12 or newer kernel version" nicer,
mayby also for others.

> >   .
> >   This is a minimal version for use in debian-installer.
> 
> Should we start adding "This package should not be installed on a normal
> system" to udebs?

That would make two lines:

|  This is a minimal version for use in debian-installer.
|  This package should not be installed on a normal system.


My proposal is:
|  This is a minimal version, only for use in the Debian-installer.


Or perhaps:
|  This is a minimal version, only for use in the installation system.
to make rebranding more easy.


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Re: Bug#418998: fontconfig-config: for korean font, Baekmuk is obsolete

2007-04-14 Thread Changwoo Ryu
2007-04-13 (금), 16:50 +0200, Christian Perrier 쓰시길:
> Quoting trand ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > Package: fontconfig-config
> > Version: 2.4.2-1.2
> > Severity: wishlist
> > Tags: l10n
> > 
> > For korean font, ttf-baekmuk is almost dead.
> > development is stop, people don't use it.
>
> Please note that I am not the fontconfig maintainer. I just happen to
> be subscribed to the package's PTS and saw your bug report.
> 
> As you suggest this, it seems to me that D-I should probably stop
> installing ttf-baekmuk when the installation language is Korean.
> 
> The korean-desktop task currently installs:
> 
> Packages-list:
>  imhangul
>  nabi
>  ttf-unfonts
>  imhangul-status-applet
>  iceweasel-l10n-ko
>  xfonts-baekmuk
>  ttf-baekmuk
>  openoffice.org-help-ko
>  openoffice.org-l10n-ko
>  kde-i18n-ko
> 
> 
> So, ttf-unfonts are already installed and, if this is what you
> suggest, we could remove ttf-baekmuk.

> What about xfonts-baekmuk? Should they be dropped from there also?

It depends on what our default desktop looks like.

While ttf-unfonts is a much better choice in antialiased environment
(GNOME/KDE) or for printing, it's almost unusable in non-antialiased
environment (ie. traditional X apps). That's why baekmuk is used in
bf-utf-source, while ttf-unfonts is used for G-I. If we can just ignore
such traditional apps in the default desktop installation, it's ok to
drop ttf-baekmuk and xfonts-baekmuk.


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Bug#418341: turning DMA off

2007-04-14 Thread Chris Bell
On Fri 13 Apr, Geert Stappers wrote:
> 
> Op 13-04-2007 om 18:27 schreef Chris Bell:
> > 
> > I usually find that DMA has been turned on but the drive is unable to
> > comply, so I turn DMA off for that drive.
> 
> 
> How?
> 
> 
> Please spend some more time on this bugreport.
> Example given: tell/explain how to turn off DMA.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> Geert Stappers
> 
> 
> 
   By coincidence I have just seen this problem on an older box, and
followed the installation instructions in Chapter 5.3.1.2
   The screen display "Detect CDROM" is followed by a list of modules to be
loaded, I just pressed , the modules were loaded, then the screen
went mostly blue, followed by an error message reporting a CDROM access
problem.

   I changed to console 2 F2>
 to activate 
cd /proc/ide/hdc
echo -n "using_dma:0" >settings

then return to console 1  and retry CDROM detection. This brought
up the screen "CD-ROM detected"

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Bug#264530: LOADLIN is for booting from MS-DOS or old WINDOWS

2007-04-14 Thread Pablo De Napoli
I strongly support this bug report
(this could be really usefull and LOADLIN is included in the tools directory 
from the CD
1 in Etch)

However, the sugested title "5.1.2. Booting from linux using LILO or GRUB or 
LOADLIN"
is not correct.
(as Loadlin is not for booting from Linux)

So a new section 5.1.x should be added with a title like "Booting from 
MS-DOS/Windows 95/
Windows 98/FreeDos using LOADLIN"



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