Request to support KDE as first-class citizen in Debian and add GNOME3 as technical-preview
Hello, The debian-installer defaults to GNOME, which is a bit sad for KDE users alike. Currently d-i supports KDE, but on the standard Debian DVD media bootloader, it is buried quite deep. I'd like to see KDE and GNOME supported on an equal footing in Debian. openSUSE's Yast gives equal footing to top-tier desktop environments. [ ]-KDE4 [ ]-GNOME [ ]-Extra environments One advantage is that both KDE and GNOME are supported on the same level. Another advantage is that it allows to put 'technical preview' into stable distro. openSUSE 11.0 had a though choice - KDE3 (mature) or KDE 4.0 (which was immature at the time) So they added both options: [ ]-KDE3 [ ]-KDE4[ ]-GNOME Fedora 9 didn't had the KDE3 option, so many frustrated KDE users moved to openSUSE during early KDE4 fiasco. The same problem now happens with Debian Wheezy which will have to decide for GNOME3 or GNOME2. But with improved d-i it would be possible to include *both*, and call GNOME3 'technical preview'. Wheezy could look like: [ ]-KDE [ ]-GNOME2 [ ]-GNOME3 (technical preview) [Extra environments] button GNOME3 largely shares the problem of early KDE4 -- too big change to swallow by many (GNOME2) users. I understand this will toss packages on the DVDs, but still it looks like a good idea. Thanks in advance,-- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOJ6w=hj+ac50pkutr_hqtthzrz5m5sgyosrcmdpfcedp1k...@mail.gmail.com
Debian installer build: failed or old builds
Debian installer build overview --- Failed or old builds: * OLD BUILD:sparc Dec 13 00:13 buildd@zee build_cdrom http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/sparc/daily/build_cdrom.log * OLD BUILD:sparc Dec 13 00:17 buildd@zee build_netboot http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/sparc/daily/build_netboot.log * OLD BUILD:sparc Dec 13 00:20 buildd@zee build_miniiso http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/sparc/daily/build_miniiso.log Totals: 110 builds (0 failed, 3 old) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e1razg4-0001yh...@ravel.debian.org
Re: libnl3 soname change
Heiko Stübner wrote: > Another question for the installer folks: should the udeb stay as it is, or > should it be split too. d-i only needs it for wpasupplicant, so if that does not need all the libraries, some could be dropped from the udeb. Otherwise, I see no point of splitting the udeb. joey@gnu:~>ldd =wpa_supplicant|grep libnl libnl.so.3 => /usr/lib/libnl.so.3 (0xb7707000) libnl-genl.so.3 => /usr/lib/libnl-genl.so.3 (0xb7702000) Perhaps it only needs those 2, but I have not checked closely. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#411585: pinging bug
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:24:05 +, Nicholas Bamber wrote: Regis, Thanks for responding. Yes I had cdebconf installed for a while and I was trying to use it. I was motivated to try it out after having issues during the recent perl transition. If cdebconf could make perl transitions smoother I think that would be a big plus in its favour. If cdebconf actually fully worked on an installed system, it would be an even better point in its favour, but I'm working on it. I would appreciate it if you would make sure that there was a bug report called something like "cdebconf not ready for general use" and all the issues with using cdebconf in a general way, such as this one, were marked as blocking that bug. Or perhaps all those bug reports could be tagged in some way. Well, to be fair there is one (#328498), and this bug wasn't considered a blocker. I'll probably update the description of the .deb package to make it clear that it is not production material yet. Thanks, Regis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/d3d9cdf96af37f59831a92f4ce615...@imalip.net
libnl3 soname change
Hi all, last week I did an upload of the current version 3.2.3 libnl3 to experimental. Libnl >= 3.2 is for example necessary for network-manager. Beginning from 3.2 upstream changed the soname changed from libnl3 to libnl3-200 and due to now correct .pc files it was possible to also create separate packages for the individual libraries instead of cramming all of them into one package. So the question would be on how to proceed to get this into unstable without breaking to much. Another question for the installer folks: should the udeb stay as it is, or should it be split too. Thanks Heiko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201112141623.20369.he...@sntech.de
Bug#648567: Wheezy installer : No usb detection on Sheevaplug (marvell armel kirkwood), installer stop with mess "Error while running 'modprobe -v usb-storage'"
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 09:00:41AM -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 06:01, Philipp Kern wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:39:17PM -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote: > > > > The installer image above is an old image from January. Otavio: we > > > > should either ask ftp-master to remove that old 20110106+b1 build > > > > from the wheezy directory, or make an upload of current d-i (or do > > > > both). Can you take care of this? > > > I will do an upload of installer soon so we check how it goes in > > autobuilders. > > > > I presume that would pick the old rootskel? Or we'd need to NMU klibc > > in unstable with the fix for the klcc issue (the patch provided by > > Ubuntu is applyable onto the 1.5 in unstable). > > > > Having klibc NMUed is required. Can you handle it? not happy about the multiarch fix, but it is in experimental anyway. if there is not a soon release of 2.0 (meaning until this weekend), i'll upload fixed klibc this week. (which is probably as I didn't regain the kernel.org account yet) thanks for your patience and sorry for the mess. -- maks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111214110731.ga4...@vostochny.stro.at
Bug#648567: Wheezy installer : No usb detection on Sheevaplug (marvell armel kirkwood), installer stop with mess "Error while running 'modprobe -v usb-storage'"
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 06:01, Philipp Kern wrote: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:39:17PM -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote: > > > The installer image above is an old image from January. Otavio: we > > > should either ask ftp-master to remove that old 20110106+b1 build > > > from the wheezy directory, or make an upload of current d-i (or do > > > both). Can you take care of this? > > I will do an upload of installer soon so we check how it goes in > autobuilders. > > I presume that would pick the old rootskel? Or we'd need to NMU klibc > in unstable with the fix for the klcc issue (the patch provided by > Ubuntu is applyable onto the 1.5 in unstable). > Having klibc NMUed is required. Can you handle it? -- Otavio Salvador O.S. Systems E-mail: ota...@ossystems.com.br http://www.ossystems.com.br Mobile: +55 53 9981-7854 http://projetos.ossystems.com.br
Bug#648567: Wheezy installer : No usb detection on Sheevaplug (marvell armel kirkwood), installer stop with mess "Error while running 'modprobe -v usb-storage'"
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:39:17PM -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote: > > The installer image above is an old image from January. Otavio: we > > should either ask ftp-master to remove that old 20110106+b1 build > > from the wheezy directory, or make an upload of current d-i (or do > > both). Can you take care of this? > I will do an upload of installer soon so we check how it goes in autobuilders. I presume that would pick the old rootskel? Or we'd need to NMU klibc in unstable with the fix for the klcc issue (the patch provided by Ubuntu is applyable onto the 1.5 in unstable). Kind regards Philipp Kern signature.asc Description: Digital signature
