Bug#765976: aiming for 8.2: tzsetup: please don't offer time zone selection for Germany

2015-08-10 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org (2015-08-10):
 On Montag, 10. August 2015, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
  Looking at the bug log, I see a patch, I see it applied in git, and all
  I see about this bug's not being fixed is:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=765976;msg=55
 
 it's also mentioned in http://www.heise.de/open/artikel/Debian-8-0-Jessie-im-
 Kurztest-2620923.html and probably elsewhere.
  
  where you didn't exactly explain anything about why this patch is not or
  no longer sufficient, or what a new patch should look like.
 
 I have no idea, the only thing I know that Büsingen and the rest of Germany 
 had a different time zone in 1983, for six months. Since then, the last 32 
 years, the times were always aligned.
 
 And that in spring 2014 I pointed this mistake out before it was in sid and 
 then it was still uploaded - as Büsingen is obviously the correct german 
 spelling of it(!)... since then, I kinda gave up and just whined on irc. Then 
 you asked me to file this bug, I did, nothing happened, so I thought I'd ping 
 this bug…

So you have no idea why the patch you supplied in not sufficient, yet
you're repeatedly laughing at us and pointing how much we're sucking for
not fixing an issue that should have been fixed by your patch, which was
applied? And you still call this “trivial”? I'm very much not following
you here!


  So I suggest you stop bitching about how “trivial” and “hillarious” this
  bug is
 
 will do. I just cannot promise to not laugh, sigh, cry or giggle a bit when I 
 see it or am being pointed at. But I'll promise to not mention this bug 
 online 
 in Debian forums anymore.

Nice to see how you cut off the other part… you know, where one is
supposed to be *contributing* when one wants to see something fixed.

I'm really at a loss for words. It's not like you're a stranger to how
an issue should be dealt with in Debian. I'm not sure why you're
behaving this way…

Maybe that's your way of trying to get someone to do the debugging and
fixing for you. But I can assure you this is not motivating at all,
quite the opposite!


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Bug#765976: aiming for 8.2: tzsetup: please don't offer time zone selection for Germany

2015-08-10 Thread Philip Hands
Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org writes:
...
 And that in spring 2014 I pointed this mistake out before it was in sid and 
 then it was still uploaded - as Büsingen is obviously the correct german 
 spelling of it(!)... since then, I kinda gave up and just whined on irc. Then 
 you asked me to file this bug, I did, nothing happened, so I thought I'd ping 
 this bug…

This appears to be a misunderstanding.

Holger seems to be working on the assumption that the patch was not
applied, whereas when I look at the git log I see that Christian
committed that change on Oct 22 last year, and that the change was in the
changelog as version 1:0.60

I've not checked when that got into an installer, but I guess it did
quite a long time ago.  The version in the current installer is 1:0.66

Presumably (judging from the fact that Holger's still talking about it)
the patch didn't work for some reason.

OK, so I just tried it with the debian-8.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso image,
and Holger is certainly right (see screenshot attached).

I note that there is only Berlin listed if I run this on the console:

  # grep DE /usr/share/tzsetup/tzmap
  DE Europe/Berlin

Whereas there is mention of both in /var/lib/cdebconf/templates.dat in
tzsetup/country/DE in the Choices: and Choices-C fields.  I guess that's
the cause of this bug.

In tzsetup there is a line:

  zone=$(grep ^$CC /usr/share/tzsetup/tzmap | cut -d ' ' -f 2)

which I suppose we were expecting to do the trick, but that's in an if's
else branch, so I guess we're actually using the then branch instead.

tzsetup has not been touched since 2009, so it's not been introduced
recently there.

Did anyone actually test that the patch did what we had hoped after
Christian's commit?

Cheers, Phil.


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Bug#795100: os-prober: It hangs on kernel package upgrade, making impossible to generate a correct ramdisk

2015-08-10 Thread mansiweb
Package: os-prober
Version: 1.65
Severity: important

Dear Maintainer,

today upgrading the kernel on a server having many FC connected disk I
got grub-mount stuck when trying to mount a logical volume used by
another machine. I got a process in D state, the ramdisk was not
created, I had to stop apt-get by means of kill -9 and I was risking
to have an unbootable server.

I had to remove it to correctly complete the kernel upgrate. 

The server was installed selecting just SSH server in tasksel and I do
not uderstand why this package is installed. I cannot understand why a
server installation has to probe all available disk for other
operating systems, a server is never installed as dual boot, and there
is no reason to check for other OS, that's a desktop/laptop feature.

Please remove this package form standard installation and put it only
when user select a desktop environment or a laptop. 



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Bug#765976: aiming for 8.2: tzsetup: please don't offer time zone selection for Germany

2015-08-10 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org):

 Nice to see how you cut off the other part… you know, where one is
 supposed to be *contributing* when one wants to see something fixed.
 
 I'm really at a loss for words. It's not like you're a stranger to how
 an issue should be dealt with in Debian. I'm not sure why you're
 behaving this way…
 
 Maybe that's your way of trying to get someone to do the debugging and
 fixing for you. But I can assure you this is not motivating at all,
 quite the opposite!

I just see that #765976 was reopened, nearly silently, on June 8th
2015.

As it seems obvious, I didn't notice that (and maybe Cyril didn't
either).

I'm vry happy that german Debian users have good laughs. I'd be even
more happy if one of them would take care to look in detail why the
solution we implemented, which was suggested by Joey himself, doesn't
work.

(indeed, I don't know whether it's working or not, as I didn't try a
de_DE install)



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Bug#765976: aiming for 8.2: tzsetup: please don't offer time zone selection for Germany

2015-08-10 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Philip Hands p...@hands.com (2015-08-10):
 Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org writes:
 ...
  And that in spring 2014 I pointed this mistake out before it was in sid and 
  then it was still uploaded - as Büsingen is obviously the correct german 
  spelling of it(!)... since then, I kinda gave up and just whined on irc. 
  Then 
  you asked me to file this bug, I did, nothing happened, so I thought I'd 
  ping 
  this bug…
 
 This appears to be a misunderstanding.

Misunderstanding, I'm not sure; miscommunication, certainly.


 Holger seems to be working on the assumption that the patch was not
 applied, whereas when I look at the git log I see that Christian
 committed that change on Oct 22 last year, and that the change was in
 the changelog as version 1:0.60

Holger commented on the patch Christian pushed:
  https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=765976#45

so I /think/ he saw the patch had been applied…

 I've not checked when that got into an installer, but I guess it did
 quite a long time ago.  The version in the current installer is 1:0.66

Certainly. In any version past [2014-11-02] which is the date where
1:0.60 entered testing. Those can be checked here:
  https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2014/
  https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2015/

 Presumably (judging from the fact that Holger's still talking about
 it) the patch didn't work for some reason.

Presumably, given the silent reopen both Christian and I mentioned
already:
  https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=55;bug=765976

but with no explanations whatsoever.

Holger's dancing around my questions in today's mails doesn't make it
easier to understand what his point actually was… Did the patch get
tested at the beginning? Did it work at some point? Regressed later? I
have no idea at all (other than best guessing based on when components
were updated as you did further down in your mail).

 OK, so I just tried it with the debian-8.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso image,
 and Holger is certainly right (see screenshot attached).
 
 I note that there is only Berlin listed if I run this on the console:
 
   # grep DE /usr/share/tzsetup/tzmap
   DE Europe/Berlin
 
 Whereas there is mention of both in /var/lib/cdebconf/templates.dat in
 tzsetup/country/DE in the Choices: and Choices-C fields.  I guess that's
 the cause of this bug.
 
 In tzsetup there is a line:
 
   zone=$(grep ^$CC /usr/share/tzsetup/tzmap | cut -d ' ' -f 2)
 
 which I suppose we were expecting to do the trick, but that's in an if's
 else branch, so I guess we're actually using the then branch instead.
 
 tzsetup has not been touched since 2009, so it's not been introduced
 recently there.
 
 Did anyone actually test that the patch did what we had hoped after
 Christian's commit?

Presumably the bug reporter who submitted the patch, and tagged it as
such?

But again, we would need slightly more thoughtful input from Holger.


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Bug#765976: aiming for 8.2: tzsetup: please don't offer time zone selection for Germany

2015-08-10 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Philip Hands (p...@hands.com):

 Whereas there is mention of both in /var/lib/cdebconf/templates.dat in
 tzsetup/country/DE in the Choices: and Choices-C fields.  I guess that's
 the cause of this bug.

Likely. In such case, the fix is trivial : remove the following in
debian/common.templates.in:

Template: tzsetup/country/DE
Type: select
Choices-C: Europe/Berlin, Europe/Busingen
# :sl3:
__Choices: Berlin, Busingen
Default: Europe/Berlin
Description: location




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Bug#794936: installation-guide: claims it will use CD-ROM as cover-term then doesn't

2015-08-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

The file you attached doesn't contain all the changes you have
described. (and trying to automatically pick them from the mail is
deemed do fail :) )

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Bug#794936: installation-guide: claims it will use CD-ROM as cover-term then doesn't

2015-08-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
I'm also wondering: this will make all the corresponding translation
bits out of date, thus disabling the translation here and there in the
manual.  I'm thus wondering who should work on updating them.  It's
not nice for translators to see a flurry of fuzzy entries just because
of a CD - CD-ROM update which could have been processed more or less
automatically for all languages.

In most languages, CD-ROM has been kept as such, so it'd make sense
to apply the same change in all those languages more or less
automatically.

A few others have translated the term, I guess we want the same
standardization process there, possibly handled by translators
themselves?  The decision on which places should get the standard term
is probably to be homogeneous across translations, though.

Samuel


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Bug#795139: debian-installer: Softlink target path for /initrd.img is different from /vmlinuz

2015-08-10 Thread Anders Andersson
Package: debian-installer
Severity: minor

Dear Maintainer,

This is a bug so minor, that I am embarassed to report it. It has, however,
bugged me for some time now. After a fresh install of debian jessie, the
softlinks from /initrd.img and /vmlinuz points to different locations:

lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   31 Aug 10 22:20 initrd.img -
/boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-4-amd64
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   27 Aug 10 22:20 vmlinuz -
boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64

Notice how one is to /boot (absolute path) and one is to boot (relative
path).

I would expect these to refer to the exact same boot path. Now, this shouldn't
have any relevance unless one actually moves those links, but the difference
could eventually make a difference (no pun intended). I don't know which one is
more correct: /boot or boot. I also do not know exactly which package creates
those links. I tried to search for them but I could not find any better package
which is why I report it to debian-installer.



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Bug#794936: installation-guide: claims it will use CD-ROM as cover-term then doesn't

2015-08-10 Thread Justin B Rye
Samuel Thibault wrote:
 The file you attached doesn't contain all the changes you have
 described. (and trying to automatically pick them from the mail is
 deemed do fail :) )

Baffling.  I thought the ~/standardize_on_CD-ROM_as_cover-term.patch
that I attached was the same file as I'd included in the body.  I
don't know where the other version comes from - I don't even know what
kind of svn diff I'd need to do to get it.

Fortunately since it was in my home directory overnight there's also a
copy in my backups, and it turns out to be the good version.  That's
perhaps the most baffling part of all, but here it is.
-- 
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sysadmin, and probably no clue about this particular package
Index: manual/en/appendix/chroot-install.xml
===
--- manual/en/appendix/chroot-install.xml	(revision 70017)
+++ manual/en/appendix/chroot-install.xml	(working copy)
@@ -165,7 +165,7 @@
 
 /parapara
 
-If you have a releasename; debian-gnu; CD mounted at
+If you have a releasename; debian-gnu; CD-ROM mounted at
 filename/cdrom/filename, you could substitute a file URL instead
 of the http URL: userinputfile:/cdrom/debian//userinput
 
Index: manual/en/appendix/files.xml
===
--- manual/en/appendix/files.xml	(revision 70017)
+++ manual/en/appendix/files.xml	(working copy)
@@ -202,7 +202,7 @@
 
 By default the installer will install the GNOME desktop environment, but
 alternative desktop environments can be selected either by using one
-of the special CD images, or by specifying the desired desktop environment
+of the special CD-ROM images, or by specifying the desired desktop environment
 when the installer is booted (see xref linkend=pkgsel/).
 
 /parapara
Index: manual/en/appendix/pppoe.xml
===
--- manual/en/appendix/pppoe.xml	(revision 70017)
+++ manual/en/appendix/pppoe.xml	(working copy)
@@ -20,7 +20,7 @@
 /parapara
 
 To have the option of setting up and using PPPoE during the installation,
-you will need to install using one of the CD-ROM/DVD images that are
+you will need to install using one of the CD-ROM images that are
 available. It is not supported for other installation methods (e.g.
 netbootphrase condition=supports-floppy-boot or floppy/phrase).
 
Index: manual/en/appendix/preseed.xml
===
--- manual/en/appendix/preseed.xml	(revision 70017)
+++ manual/en/appendix/preseed.xml	(working copy)
@@ -73,7 +73,7 @@
 
 tbody
 row
-  entryCD/DVD/entry
+  entryCD-ROM/entry
   entryyes/entry
   entryyes/entry
   entryyesfootnote id='apx-ps-net'
@@ -119,7 +119,7 @@
 An important difference between the preseeding methods is the point at which
 the preconfiguration file is loaded and processed. For initrd preseeding
 this is right at the start of the installation, before the first question is
-even asked. For file preseeding this is after the CD or CD image has been
+even asked. For file preseeding this is after the CD-ROM or CD-ROM image has been
 loaded. For network preseeding it is only after the network has been
 configured.
 
@@ -228,7 +228,7 @@
 the location from where you want to use it. Creating the preconfiguration file
 is covered later in this appendix. Putting it in the correct location is fairly
 straightforward for network preseeding or if you want to read the file off
-a floppy or usb-stick. If you want to include the file on a CD or DVD, you
+a floppy or usb-stick. If you want to include the file on a CD-ROM, you
 will have to remaster the ISO image. How to get the preconfiguration file
 included in the initrd is outside the scope of this document; please consult
 the developers' documentation for d-i;.
@@ -290,7 +290,7 @@
   preseed/url=tftp://host/path/to/preseed.cfg
   preseed/url/checksum=5da499872becccfeda2c4872f9171c3d
 
-- if you're booting a remastered CD:
+- if you're booting a remastered CD-ROM:
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   preseed/file/checksum=5da499872becccfeda2c4872f9171c3d
 
@@ -822,7 +822,7 @@
 
 Of course, preseeding the network configuration won't work if you're
 loading your preconfiguration file from the network. But it's great when
-you're booting from CD or USB stick. If you are loading preconfiguration
+you're booting from CD-ROM or USB stick. If you are loading preconfiguration
 files from the network, you can pass network config parameters by using
 kernel boot parameters.
 
@@ -1452,7 +1452,7 @@
 # Some versions of the installer can report back on what software you have
 # installed, and what software you use. The default is not to report back,
 # but sending reports helps the project determine what software is most
-# popular and include it on CDs.
+# popular and include it on CD-ROMs.
 #popularity-contest popularity-contest/participate boolean false
 

Re: Proposal: Drop ttf-cjk-compact, get fonts-droid

2015-08-10 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi!

Kenshi Muto km...@debian.org (2015-07-22):
 This is a proposal to replace ttf-cjk-compact with fonts-droid for
 next (Stretch) debian-installer.
 
 Introduction:
 DroidSansFallback.ttf of fonts-droid package appears best choice for
 graphical debian-installer to show CJK - Chinese, Japanese, Korean -,
 because it is scalable font, quite small footprint (3939852 bytes),
 and enough legible.
 
 ttf-cjk-compact was born in 2005, to display CJK characters on
 graphical debian-installer. Due to lack of small scalable CJK font at
 2005 and limited RAM disk size, I made a workaround font package
 ttf-compact-fonts (former name). This font package made a list of may
 use characters from d-i po files and some other packages, then
 rebuilt reduced font with the list by modifying other font packages;
 vlgothic, unfont, and arphic-uming.  (ja.ttf: 197392 bytes, ko.ttf:
 152000 bytes, zh.ttf: 1258276 bytes.  total: 1607668 bytes.)

Thanks for the detailed history, which matches what I've gathered while
trying to update this package once in a while. :)

 After some tests, I believe it's time to use fonts-droid instead of
 ttf-cjk-compact.
 
 Test:
 - - screenshots:  http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i-font/sc/
 - - graphical netboot mini.iso: http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i-font/mini.iso 
 (50MB)
 
 Step:
 1. Modify fonts-android to provide fonts-android-udeb which has only
DroidSansFallback.ttf.
patch:  http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i-font/fonts-android.diff

→ Uploaded to sid, reached stretch already.

 2. After fonts-android-udeb is installed to the mirror,
Modify d-i/installer to use fonts-droid-udeb instead of 
 ttf-cjk-compact-udeb.
patch:  http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i-font/installer.diff

→ I've just performed some tests, and building + comparing a few screens
for C, J, and K looks good to me. To be inexperienced eyes, the old
glyphs for all 3 languages look a bit thiner and new ones a bit sharper,
but sizes are similar. As usual, we can adjust the size if desired, on a
per-language basis. (I find it a bit difficult to distinguish all
details in Traditional Chinese for example, while Korean and Japanese
don't seem that hard to “read” ;)).

I'm seeing a size increase similar to what you're quoting: building
netboot-gtk on amd64 means initrd.gz grows from 35 MB to 36 MB;
unpacked, it goes from 105 MB to 108 MB. I agree this increase in
worthwhile as maintaining the ttf-cjk-compact hack is quite a burden,
and doesn't provide us with reasonable results, as some glyphs can
regularly go missing…

 3. Remove ttf-cjk-compact from unstable and testing.

→ We can ask for a removal from unstable once the next debian-installer
upload is performed. I've added a note on my side. As usual, the removal
will propagate to testing once it has happened on unstable, and once
there are no more reverse dependencies.

 Pros:
  - d-i code gets smarter way.
  - most CJK characters will be shown correctly.
  - replacing ttf-cjk-compact with DroidSansFallback doesn't break
other languages. (as far as I saw)
  - Chinese gets sans-serif.
 
 Cons:
  - increases +2MB for each graphical initrd.
jessie-amd64/cdrom/gtk/initrd.gz: 25557641 - 281535694
 hd-media/gtk/initrd.gz: 27747025 - 30340894
 netboot/gtk/initrd.gz: 34425758 - 37539446
 netboot/gtk/mini.iso: 49283072 - 52428800
  - Some Japanese characters look bit funny.
(I believe it is negligible for installer.)
 
 Note:
  - Noto family, brand-new Google's free and well-designed font, is
too big. For example NotoSansCJK-Regular.ttc is 17MB.
  - DroidSansFallbackFull doesn't include Korean Hangul characters.

Thanks for the detailed pros  cons  notes, that's much appreciated!

Patch for debian-installer pushed a few minutes ago, it will be used for
daily builds starting with the 2015-08-12 ones.


(If anyone wonders, I've just removed the /git/d-i/ttf-cjk-compact.git
repository from alioth, as it's not going to be used at all.)

Mraw,
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Re: Proposal: Drop ttf-cjk-compact, get fonts-droid

2015-08-10 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 03:02:32AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 Hi!
 
 Kenshi Muto km...@debian.org (2015-07-22):
  This is a proposal to replace ttf-cjk-compact with fonts-droid for
  next (Stretch) debian-installer.

As long as this is a change for debian-boot, and not for the installed 
Debian I have no problems with this.  But if it's for Debian itself, 
well, people may just prefer one set of fonts over the other for 
aesthetic reasons, and both should remain available.

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Bug#794432: debian-installer: please switch from ttf-cjk-compact-udeb to fonts-android-udeb

2015-08-10 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Control: tag -1 pending

Hi,

Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org (2015-08-03):
 I'll perform some checks once sid is no longer having issues with
 libicu, and push once I've done so.

As mentioned in my reply to your CJK proposal on debian-boot@, my tests
look good so I've pushed your patch:
  https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/d-i/debian-installer.git/commit/?id=58f1c1a

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Bug#765976: aiming for 8.2: tzsetup: please don't offer time zone selection for Germany

2015-08-10 Thread Holger Levsen
Dear debian-boot people,

this is a ping about applying the trivial patch to fix this hillarious bug. 
I'm hoping the fix will be uploaded to sid soon to make it possible to push it 
into the 8.2 point update, thus cc:ing the stable release managers, to make 
them aware of the issue too.

You also might use DebConf15 as an opportunity to talk to people affected by 
this bug. I'm refraining from cc:ing debconf-discuss@ though ;-)


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Re: Bug#794468: general: no watchdog support in installer kernel

2015-08-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2015-08-09 at 13:39 +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
 Ben Hutchings dixit:
 
 Which watchdog device is this, that is enabled by the BIOS?  Normally I
 expect them to be enabled only by the kernel driver.
 
 It’s a 19″ server from Supermicro; Dominik would’ve to provide details.
 
 install time since the watchdog devices are not enabled by the system
 firmware.
 
 Oh well… apparently, the firmware setup screens don’t signal the
 watchdog either, so you can’t use that one for five minutes while
 the watchdog is enabled. This all points to buggy firmware. Again,
 details would have to come from Nik.

Then I think this should be fixed in the firmware.

Ben.

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Bug#765976: aiming for 8.2: tzsetup: please don't offer time zone selection for Germany

2015-08-10 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Sehr geehrter Holger,

Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org (2015-08-10):
 Dear debian-boot people,
 
 this is a ping about applying the trivial patch to fix this hillarious bug. 
 I'm hoping the fix will be uploaded to sid soon to make it possible to push 
 it 
 into the 8.2 point update, thus cc:ing the stable release managers, to make 
 them aware of the issue too.

Looking at the bug log, I see a patch, I see it applied in git, and all
I see about this bug's not being fixed is:
  https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=765976;msg=55

where you didn't exactly explain anything about why this patch is not or
no longer sufficient, or what a new patch should look like.

Initial patch was at:
  https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=765976#5

and tzmap.override was last touched in:
| commit 6fe0cece30e4f93917f169a5c6d8d70ab0d5d11e
| Author: Christian Perrier bubulle@Êebian.org
| Date:   Wed Oct 22 08:05:10 2014 +0200
| 
| Use Europe/Berlin as timezone for Germany, skipping the Büsingen 
question. Closes: #765976
| 
| diff --git a/tzmap.override b/tzmap.override
| index a2e452b..086e803 100644
| --- a/tzmap.override
| +++ b/tzmap.override
| @@ -1,5 +1,6 @@
|  AR America/Buenos_Aires
|  GB Europe/London
| +DE Europe/Berlin
|  MH Pacific/Majuro
|  ML Africa/Bamako
|  MY Asia/Kuala_Lumpur

which except for the typo in Christian's mail address looks like what we
were supposed to commit.

So I suggest you stop bitching about how “trivial” and “hillarious” this
bug is, and that you provide details, facts, or if you were so inclined,
an updated patch?


Not amused,
KiBi.


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Bug#765976: aiming for 8.2: tzsetup: please don't offer time zone selection for Germany

2015-08-10 Thread Holger Levsen
Sehr geehrter Herr Brulebois,

On Montag, 10. August 2015, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 Looking at the bug log, I see a patch, I see it applied in git, and all
 I see about this bug's not being fixed is:
   https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=765976;msg=55

it's also mentioned in http://www.heise.de/open/artikel/Debian-8-0-Jessie-im-
Kurztest-2620923.html and probably elsewhere.
 
 where you didn't exactly explain anything about why this patch is not or
 no longer sufficient, or what a new patch should look like.

I have no idea, the only thing I know that Büsingen and the rest of Germany 
had a different time zone in 1983, for six months. Since then, the last 32 
years, the times were always aligned.

And that in spring 2014 I pointed this mistake out before it was in sid and 
then it was still uploaded - as Büsingen is obviously the correct german 
spelling of it(!)... since then, I kinda gave up and just whined on irc. Then 
you asked me to file this bug, I did, nothing happened, so I thought I'd ping 
this bug…

 So I suggest you stop bitching about how “trivial” and “hillarious” this
 bug is

will do. I just cannot promise to not laugh, sigh, cry or giggle a bit when I 
see it or am being pointed at. But I'll promise to not mention this bug online 
in Debian forums anymore.


mit vorzuüglichster Hochachtung,
in Ergebenheit,
Holger


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