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Re: Bug#864423: Software RAID is not activated at boot time

2022-07-30 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Hi debian-boot,

* László Böszörményi (GCS)  [220730 15:34]:
> On Sat, Jul 30, 2022 at 1:50 PM Chris Hofstaedtler  wrote:
> > whats the status of dmraid? Do you have dmraid hardware or is this
> > merely on life-support?
>  Please note dmraid upstream is dead for more than ten years. I might
> find an old i386 hardware that needs it.
> But yes, it's only on life-support.

[..]

> > I'm wondering if we should remove dmraid support from the d-i as a
> > first step. AFAICT Intel Software RAID is supported by mdraid, not
> > sure if the other RAID platforms are still sold.
>  Sounds like a good idea. This will show users early Debian doesn't
> plan to ship it anymore.

I was digging around in the d-i code, and it appears for dmraid to
be invoked, one has to boot with disk-detect/dmraid/enable. 

I have opened merge requests to remove the dmraid/sataraid code from
d-i. The changes look like low risk to me, but obviously I have no
idea. For the lack of a build environment I also didn't test them.

Given d-i does nothing with dmraid unless the boot flag is present,
I want to ask if dmraid could also stop shipping its udeb, if thats
ok with debian-boot?

Thanks,
Chris



Re: Bug#864423: Software RAID is not activated at boot time

2022-07-30 Thread GCS
Hi all,

On Sat, Jul 30, 2022 at 1:50 PM Chris Hofstaedtler  wrote:
> whats the status of dmraid? Do you have dmraid hardware or is this
> merely on life-support?
 Please note dmraid upstream is dead for more than ten years. I might
find an old i386 hardware that needs it.
But yes, it's only on life-support.

> * Paul Gevers :
> > What would you say about this? Even if d-i would not need it anymore, we
> > would need work to drop the dependency chain via
> > libblockdev/udisks2/gnome-control-center.
 Do these have real use of dmraid, tested from time to time at least?

> I'm wondering if we should remove dmraid support from the d-i as a
> first step. AFAICT Intel Software RAID is supported by mdraid, not
> sure if the other RAID platforms are still sold.
 Sounds like a good idea. This will show users early Debian doesn't
plan to ship it anymore.

> If its gone from di-i, at least no new installs can spring into
> existence "by accident", i.e. where mdraid would have been the
> better choice.
 Exactly.

Regards,
Laszlo/GCS



Re: Bug#864423: Software RAID is not activated at boot time

2022-07-30 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Hi Laszlo,

whats the status of dmraid? Do you have dmraid hardware or is this
merely on life-support?

* Paul Gevers :
> What would you say about this? Even if d-i would not need it anymore, we
> would need work to drop the dependency chain via
> libblockdev/udisks2/gnome-control-center.

I'm wondering if we should remove dmraid support from the d-i as a
first step. AFAICT Intel Software RAID is supported by mdraid, not
sure if the other RAID platforms are still sold.
If its gone from di-i, at least no new installs can spring into
existence "by accident", i.e. where mdraid would have been the
better choice.

What do you, Laszlo and d-boot, think?

Chris