Bug#761815: installation adds entries for USB media to /etc/fstab which confuse udisks

2015-01-17 Thread Cameron Norman
On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 10:44:18 + Steve McIntyre  
wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 09:38:05PM +0100, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> >
> >My personal opinion is that the right thing is to not add entries to
> >/etc/fstab for removable devices at all (where "removable" means 
that

> >the device itself can be removed, not just devices with removable
> >media): I think there is no guarantee that the entry added to 
/etc/fstab
> >actually matches the right device later. Plus the problems with 
udisks.

>
> 100% agreed.
>
> >> My patch currently only prohibits adding of USB device entries. 
Should
> >> this be extended to floppies and CD-ROMs? What about kfreebsd and 
hurd?

> >
> >I'm not sure about CD-ROM/floppies or other devices with removable
> >media. I also don't know about kFreeBSD or Hurd.
> >
> >> IMO this should be fixed before the release as it causes 
unexpected and

> >> inconsistent behavior.
> >
> >Agreed. I've personally at least encountered 3 people having 
problems
> >with using USB media under desktop environments (KDE or GNOME) due 
to

> >these entries in /etc/fstab.
>
> I'm thinking the best way to go with this is to simply drop this misc
> USB device support altogether from partman-target. Any objections?
>

As someone hit by this, yes please. I like to start from a fairly 
minimal debian install, so when I add udisks post-install, I could 
still be hit by it if the other previously mentioned patch is used. 
Just removing that removable media handling support would be ideal.


Thank you.
--
Cameron Norman


Re: Packages to install be default for Stretch

2015-05-05 Thread Cameron Norman
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Ansgar Burchardt  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> [ Please send replies only to boot@ ]
>
> I would like to re-evaluate what we change by default for Stretch, that
> is the list of packages with priorities required, important and
> standard.  In general my plan involves installing less, taking into
> consideration that requirements and expectations what should be
> available in containers, chroots, on servers and desktop systems has
> changed (at least IMHO).
>
> Some ideas which might need further though:
>
> - time:
>   'time' is a builtin in at least bash and zsh.
>   -> demote to "optional"

Not a good reason IMO. I think the fact that it is a builtin is
indicative that it is very expected and normal to be present.

> Any comments and/or suggestion for other changes?
>

Cheers,
--
Cameron Norman


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