Re: help with install on Dell SC420 / SATA / Sarge / netinst / at a_piix

2004-11-28 Thread Colleen Hatfield
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 19:45:45 -0600, Colleen Hatfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just installed an SC420 using the RC2 netinstall CD with expert26
 boot parameter yesterday.  Both of these bugs seem to be fixed: I can
 boot without giving acpi=off, and i get no hang after the RTC
 messages.

I just did another install on the same machine to reproduce a
different bug, and found that what I had said here was incorrect.  The
problem isn't fixed in rc2, but in the most recent version of the
2.6.8 kernel that I had gotten via apt from the unstable tree.  So it
is still best to give acpi=off to the installer (though technically
you don't have to if you're willing to ctrl+c a few times).  After
upgrading to the most recent kernel image in unstable
(kernel-image-2.6.8-1-386_2.6.8-10_i386.deb) you will not need that as
a boot option and can remove it from /boot/grub/menu.lst.

Sorry for any confusion :-(

- Colleen


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Bug#283377: RC2 install report on Dell SC420, security issue with network-console udeb installer user not being removed

2004-11-28 Thread Colleen Hatfield
Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: 
RC2 netinstall image for i386, downloaded from
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/rc2/sarge-i386-netinst.iso
on 20041126

uname -a:
Linux chloe 2.6.8-1-386 #1 Thu Nov 25 04:24:08 UTC 2004 i686 GNU/Linux

Date: 
20041126, ~23:00 UTC

Method:
Burnt the netinstall image to CD, using the expert26 boot parameter.
 Apt sources were unstable over HTTP from mirrors.kernel.org and
ftp.debian.org (no proxy).

Machine: Dell PowerEdge SC420
Processor: 2.8GHz Pentium 4
Memory: 256MB DDR2-400 SDRAM
Root Device: 160GB SATA drive (/dev/sda2)
Root Size/partition table:  
sda1  Primary   Dell Utility57.58 
sda2  BootPrimary   Linux ext3   [/] 39983.09 
sda3  Primary   Linux ext3   3.54 
sda5  Logical   Linux swap / Solaris  1003.49 
Debian was installed to /dev/sda2; /dev/sda3 is currently formatted
but unmounted and unused.

Output of lspci and lspci -n:
Note: I took the Aureal Vortex sound card out of another machine; it
didn't come with the SC420 (but it does work nicely in Debian).
lspci:
--
:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. Server Memory Controller Hub (rev 04)
:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. Server Memory Controller Hub PCI
Express Port (rev 04)
:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. Graphics Controller (rev 04)
:00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6
Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03)
:00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6
Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03)
:00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6
Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 03)
:00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6
Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 03)
:00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6
Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 03)
:00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6
Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 03)
:00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6
Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 03)
:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev d3)
:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FR (ICH6/ICH6R) LPC
Interface Bridge (rev 03)
:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6
Family) IDE Controller (rev 03)
:00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801FR/FRW (ICH6R/ICH6RW)
SATA Controller (rev 03)
:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family)
SMBus Controller (rev 03)
:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme
BCM5751 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 01)
:04:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: Aureal Semiconductor Vortex 2 (rev fe)
lspci -n:
-
:00:00.0 0600: 8086:2588 (rev 04)
:00:01.0 0604: 8086:2589 (rev 04)
:00:02.0 0300: 8086:258a (rev 04)
:00:1c.0 0604: 8086:2660 (rev 03)
:00:1c.1 0604: 8086:2662 (rev 03)
:00:1d.0 0c03: 8086:2658 (rev 03)
:00:1d.1 0c03: 8086:2659 (rev 03)
:00:1d.2 0c03: 8086:265a (rev 03)
:00:1d.3 0c03: 8086:265b (rev 03)
:00:1d.7 0c03: 8086:265c (rev 03)
:00:1e.0 0604: 8086:244e (rev d3)
:00:1f.0 0601: 8086:2640 (rev 03)
:00:1f.1 0101: 8086:266f (rev 03)
:00:1f.2 0101: 8086:2652 (rev 03)
:00:1f.3 0c05: 8086:266a (rev 03)
:02:00.0 0200: 14e4:1677 (rev 01)
:04:02.0 0401: 12eb:0002 (rev fe)

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [E]

Comments/Problems:

Error with reboot was http://bugs.debian.org/277298.  This problem is
fixed in the latest 2.6.8 kernel package in the unstable tree
(kernel-image-2.6.8-1-386_2.6.8-10_i386.deb).

A more bothersome (security-related) problem is that when the
network-console udeb is loaded and used to remotely access the install
process via SSH, the installer user isn't deleted from the system at
the end of the install process.

Here's what I did:
- Booted from the RC2 netinstall CD for i386 with the expert26 boot option
- Loaded the network-console udeb so that I would be able to SSH
into the installer
- When I was given the option to Continue installation remotely using
SSH, I set a password for the installer user and then used it to SSH
in from another machine.

The screen where you set the installer user's password says, This
password is used only by the Debian installer, and will be discarded
once you finish the installation.  However, this is not the case -
this user persists after completion of the install and rebooting, etc.
From /etc/passwd:

Bug#283377: RC2 install report on Dell SC420, security issue with network-console udeb installer user not being removed

2004-11-28 Thread Colleen Hatfield
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:06:23 +0100, Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sunday 28 November 2004 17:52, Colleen Hatfield wrote:
  The screen where you set the installer user's password says, This
  password is used only by the Debian installer, and will be discarded
  once you finish the installation.  However, this is not the case -
  this user persists after completion of the install and rebooting, etc.
 
 There is code that does remove this user at the end of the
 base-configuration stage (base-config) after the reboot.
 
 I have checked on an installation I did myself using ssh (on an emulated
 s390 IBM Mainframe), and there the installer user is no longer present.

I thought it was pretty weird, so I went ahead and did a second
installation on another partition on the same machine to see if I
could reproduce it.  The only difference between the two installs was
that the first time I didn't use base-config to install any packages,
while the second time I chose the file-server role since it installs
the ssh package, and I wanted to verify that this problem wasn't
triggered by me skipping the install additional packages step the
first time.

 This leads me to suspect that something went wrong with your base-config.
 Some questions:
 - did you run base-config over ssh (using the installer user) or did you
   run it on the system itself?

On the system itself.  I got to the point where it told me to remove
the CD and reboot the system, then I did so.

 - was base-config started automatically or did you run it manually?

It was started automatically.

 - did you complete base-config normally (including the final dialog and
   final cleanup actions)?

Yes.

 - any other special things you did or noticed that could have caused this?

If you have any ideas, I'll be glad to test them on this machine or
repeat install as necessary.

This is the only thing I've found that looks a little off to me (from
the very end of /var/log/debian-installer/syslog):
Nov 28 09:30:42 prebaseconfig: info: Running
/usr/lib/prebaseconfig.d/70kbd-chooser
Nov 28 09:30:42 prebaseconfig: info: Running
/usr/lib/prebaseconfig.d/80prepare-network-console
Nov 28 09:30:42 prebaseconfig: Installation of network-console-config
into /target failed
Nov 28 09:30:42 prebaseconfig: info: Running
/usr/lib/prebaseconfig.d/90prepare-base-config
Nov 28 09:30:42 prebaseconfig: Configuring /etc/inittab to run
base-config for regular console
Nov 28 09:30:42 prebaseconfig: info: Running
/usr/lib/prebaseconfig.d/93save-install-log
Nov 28 09:30:42 debconf: Setting debconf/priority to low

 - what's the output of 'dpkg -l network-console-config' now?

No packages found matching network-console-config.

Thanks!
- Colleen


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Re: help with install on Dell SC420 / SATA / Sarge / netinst / at a_piix

2004-11-27 Thread Colleen Hatfield
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 22:53:52 +0100, Geert Stappers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Last wednesday I did spend with installing on a Dell SC420.
   The great trick was using a 2.6 kernel. They are available for
   debian-installer
   (I used the netboot images ( no rebuild needed )) and do provide the
   ata_piix module.
  
   After the reboot you will encounter #277298, where control-C allows you
   to get a second console, so you can append acpi=off for the next boot.

I just installed an SC420 using the RC2 netinstall CD with expert26
boot parameter yesterday.  Both of these bugs seem to be fixed: I can
boot without giving acpi=off, and i get no hang after the RTC
messages.

- Colleen


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Bug#264961: still sparc cd boot problems?

2004-10-14 Thread Colleen Hatfield
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 21:43:43 -0400, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Your both reported some debian-installer sparc cd boot problems a while ago.
 Can you check the current daily build (the sid_d-i build) of the
 installer and see if this is still a problem?

Sure, I'll try to test either the netinstall or businesscard image
from the URL below on my Blade 100 tonight:
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sid_d-i/sparc/current/

If that's not correct, or if it matters which one I test from, just
let me know and I'll change plans accordingly.

Thanks,
Colleen


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Bug#264961: still sparc cd boot problems?

2004-10-14 Thread Colleen Hatfield
First the good news:
No more kernel panic from booting the CD!  Consider that problem
fixed, at least on my Blade 100 with the netinstall image from
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sid_d-i/sparc/current/.

The bad news:
Now that I can successfully boot from the CDROM, I am encountering
some of the problems described here:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=275627

I think that the proper BTS etiquette here is to follow up on those
problems at that bug, so that's what I'll do.  If that is incorrect,
just let me know and I'll happily repost here.

Thanks,
Colleen


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Bug#275627: [sparc][netinst][20041007] failure: sun blade 100

2004-10-14 Thread Colleen Hatfield
I am encountering these problems on my Blade 100 as well.

Problem 1:
Same as Vincent; keyboard doesn't work from the first installer
screen.  I am using a Sun Type 6 US UNIX layout USB keyboard.

Problem 2:
Same as Herbert.  Attempting to work around problem 1, I unplugged
keyboard/video/mouse and connected a serial console to Debian x86 box
(minicom).  I get to the Detecting CD-ROM step, where it tells me
that it cannot mount the installer CD-ROM, and that it's possible that
it's not in the drive.  The CD-ROM is definitely in the drive.  ;-)

As requested, lspci  lspci -n (courtesy of Gentoo install):
:00:00.0 Host bridge: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. Ultra IIe
:00:03.0 Non-VGA unclassified device: ALi Corporation M7101 Power
Management Controller [PMU]
:00:05.0 PCI bridge: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21152 (rev 03)
:00:07.0 ISA bridge: ALi Corporation M1533 PCI to ISA Bridge [Aladdin IV]
:00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: ALi Corporation M5451 PCI
AC-Link Controller Audio Device (rev 01)
:00:0c.0 Bridge: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. RIO EBUS (rev 01)
:00:0c.1 Ethernet controller: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. RIO
GEM (rev 01)
:00:0c.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. RIO
1394 (rev 01)
:00:0c.3 USB Controller: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. RIO USB (rev 01)
:00:0d.0 IDE interface: ALi Corporation M5229 IDE (rev c3)
:00:13.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL (rev 65)

:00:00.0 Class 0600: 108e:a001
:00:03.0 Class : 10b9:7101
:00:05.0 Class 0604: 1011:0024 (rev 03)
:00:07.0 Class 0601: 10b9:1533
:00:08.0 Class 0401: 10b9:5451 (rev 01)
:00:0c.0 Class 0680: 108e:1100 (rev 01)
:00:0c.1 Class 0200: 108e:1101 (rev 01)
:00:0c.2 Class 0c00: 108e:1102 (rev 01)
:00:0c.3 Class 0c03: 108e:1103 (rev 01)
:00:0d.0 Class 0101: 10b9:5229 (rev c3)
:00:13.0 Class 0300: 1002:4752 (rev 65)

I can also provide my dmesg output from the Gentoo boot, or my working
2.4.27 kernel config if that would help anyone.

Vincent, re. your cramfs: wrong magic intermittent problem:
I have this problem on my Blade 100 as well, when I don't hit Stop+A
at precisely the instant that the machine wants it.  On my machine I
have to send break after initializing memory, and *immediately* after
it sends the sync signal to the monitor (Boot device: disk a or
whatever is the last line above the ok I get post-break).  If I wait
any longer than this, I get the cramfs: wrong magic issue when
trying to boot from the installer CDROM.  If I wait too long before
sending the break when trying to boot disk2 (my Gentoo installation),
I get a really ugly kernel panic: Aiee! regarding the swapper.  This
is reproducible 100% of the time on my Blade.

Thanks,
Colleen


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Bug#276182: Installation Report: Pre-RC2 on Dell 600SC, success

2004-10-12 Thread Colleen Hatfield
Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: pre-rc2 i386 netinstall iso, 20041010,
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sid_d-i/i386/pre-rc2/sarge-i386-netinst.iso

uname -a: Linux gabbana 2.4.27-1-386 #1 Fri Sep 3 06:24:46 UTC 2004
i686 GNU/Linux

Date: 20041010, ~20:00CDT

Method: I burned the iso to CD and booted from it. No proxy.

Machine: Dell 600SC
Processor: 2.4GHz Pentium 4
Memory: 640MB, but it thinks it has 884MB(???)
Root Device: 40GB IDE HD, hda

Root Size/partition table:
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda3 7.4G   74M  6.9G   2% /
tmpfs 443M 0  443M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda1 118M  9.3M  103M   9% /boot
/dev/hda9 6.7G   33M  6.4G   1% /home
/dev/hda10919M  8.1M  862M   1% /tmp
/dev/hda5 5.5G  225M  5.0G   5% /usr
/dev/hda6 7.4G  179M  6.8G   3% /var
/dev/hda7 912M   14M  850M   2% /var/log
/dev/hda8 7.4G   33M  7.0G   1% /var/www


Output of lspci and lspci -n:
lspci:
:00:00.0 Host bridge: ServerWorks GCNB-LE Host Bridge (rev 32)
:00:00.1 Host bridge: ServerWorks GCNB-LE Host Bridge
:00:02.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet
Controller (rev 02)
:00:08.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL (rev 27)
:00:0e.0 IDE interface: ServerWorks: Unknown device 0217 (rev a0)
:00:0f.0 Host bridge: ServerWorks CSB6 South Bridge (rev a0)
:00:0f.1 IDE interface: ServerWorks CSB6 RAID/IDE Controller (rev a0)
:00:0f.2 USB Controller: ServerWorks CSB6 OHCI USB Controller (rev 05)
:00:0f.3 ISA bridge: ServerWorks GCLE-2 Host Bridge
lspci -n:
:00:00.0 0600: 1166:0017 (rev 32)
:00:00.1 0600: 1166:0017
:00:02.0 0200: 8086:100e (rev 02)
:00:08.0 0300: 1002:4752 (rev 27)
:00:0e.0 0101: 1166:0217 (rev a0)
:00:0f.0 0600: 1166:0203 (rev a0)
:00:0f.1 0101: 1166:0213 (rev a0)
:00:0f.2 0c03: 1166:0221 (rev 05)
:00:0f.3 0601: 1166:0227

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O/E]

Comments/Problems:

A little more about my installer choices:
At the boot: prompt I chose gave the parameters expert
netcfg/disable_dhcp=true.  At the load installer components from CD
step, I enabled network-console and open-ssh-client-udeb so that I
could have SSH access during the installer.

Although I gave it the netcfg/disable_dhcp=true boot parameter, it
still asked me whether I wanted to use DHCP or give parameters for a
static configuration.  I'm not sure whether that is intended behaviour
or not, but I found it a little strange.  It loaded the correct module
for my network card (e1000).

While looking for drivers, it gave me the somewhat scary message that
it was not able to load some of the modules needed to power my
hardware.  I'm not really sure what that was about (I can't remeber
which modules it listed, but it was IDE stuff and included ide-scsi
and 3 or 4 others).  AFAICT everything works just fine, though I
haven't tested the floppy drive.

The installer asked me about PCMCIA three different times, which was
rather annoying, though completely harmless.

After configuring networking, I was told that I could set a password
and SSH into the install as the installer user, and I did.  It was
really nice to be able to do this.  I suspect that this could have
something to do with the weirdness that followed: at the end of the
installer I was told that the base system had been installed, and to
please remove the CDROM from the drive and reboot.  I did so.  When it
came back up, it dropped me into a login prompt.  Of course, at this
point I hadn't been asked to set a root password or set up any user
accounts, so I just logged in as root with no password.  I expected it
to drop me into base-config, but it didn't.  It wasn't a huge issue
because I just ran /usr/sbin/base-config myself, but that has the
potential to be confusing for someone who might not be aware of the
base-config command.

Thanks to everyone for all the hard work!

- Colleen


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Bug#269154: Installation report: i386 businesscard iso from 20040825 on Dell Dimension XPS T450

2004-08-30 Thread Colleen Hatfield
Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: 2004-08-25 version of the i386 business
card.iso from http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/current/
uname -a: Linux fendi 2.4.27-1-686 #1 Sun Aug 15 01:13:41 UTC 2004
i686 GNU/Linux
Date: 2004-08-27, 23:00 UTC
Method: Burned a CD from the ISO; used expert boot parameter, http, no proxy

Machine: Dell Dimension XPS T450
Processor: 450MHz Pentium III
Memory: 128MB
Root Device: 20GB Western Digital IDE drive (WDC WD204BB), /dev/hda
Root Size/partition table:  Feel free to paste the full partition
  table, with notes on which partitions are mounted where.
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/hda3   /   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0   1
/dev/hda1   /boot   ext3defaults0   2
/dev/hda5   /home   ext3defaults0   2
/dev/hda6   /tmpext3defaults0   2
/dev/hda7   /usrext3defaults0   2
/dev/hda8   /varext3defaults0   2
/dev/hda9   /var/logext3defaults0   2
/dev/hda2   noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/hdc/media/cdrom0   iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0   0
/dev/fd0/media/floppy0  autorw,user,noauto  0   0

Output of lspci and lspci -n:
fendi:~# lspci
:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host
bridge (rev 03)
:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP
bridge (rev 03)
:00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
:00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
:00:0e.0 Multimedia controller: C-Cube Microsystems Cinemaster C
3.0 DVD Decoder (rev 01)
:00:0f.0 Multimedia audio controller: Aureal Semiconductor Vortex 2 (rev fe)
:00:10.0 Ethernet controller: National Semiconductor Corporation
DP83815 (MacPhyter) Ethernet Controller
:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5 [RIVA
TNT2/TNT2 Pro] (rev 11)

fendi:~# lspci -n
:00:00.0 0600: 8086:7190 (rev 03)
:00:01.0 0604: 8086:7191 (rev 03)
:00:07.0 0601: 8086:7110 (rev 02)
:00:07.1 0101: 8086:7111 (rev 01)
:00:07.2 0c03: 8086:7112 (rev 01)
:00:07.3 0680: 8086:7113 (rev 02)
:00:0e.0 0480: 123f: (rev 01)
:00:0f.0 0401: 12eb:0002 (rev fe)
:00:10.0 0200: 100b:0020
:01:00.0 0300: 10de:0028 (rev 11)


Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]

Comments/Problems:

The install went quite well - no problems to speak of.  It did ask me
twice about PCMCIA, but that wasn't a big deal.  Did not install X, so
I have no idea if that works or not.  Great job all, and I especially
appreciated the clear explanation of the boot parameter options at the
beginning of the installer.

I do have one question, though I'm not sure if this is the proper
place to ask or not:
The installer has me add locations to /etc/apt/sources.list.  This
works well, and adds both a deb and a deb-src line for each mirror. 
It asked if I wanted security updates, so I said yes and it added a
deb line for security.  It does not, however, add a deb-src line for
security.  Why not?  I only ask because I don't think that it's made
particularly obvious anywhere that (as far as I can tell) you have to
have a deb-src line for security to retreive the most recent source
versions of packages that have had security updates.  I didn't notice
this in the installer manual, the installer itself, the APT HOWTO, or
the man pages for sources.list or apt-get.

If I overlooked an explanation of this somewhere, I apologize.  I am
just curious about the omission since I almost got bitten by this in
the past when building openssl from source.  For example, on Woody
currently if you apt-get source openssl without a deb-src line for
security, you get the source for openssl_0.9.6c-2.woody.4, but if you
include that line in sources.list you get the openssl_0.9.6c-2.woody.6
source.

Thanks!

- Colleen


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