Bug#1050000: installation-reports: please install libpam-fprintd on a laptop with fingerprint reader

[Fabian Greffrath]

Package: installation-reports
Severity: wishlist


Boot method: USB
Image version: 
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso
Date: 20230808

Machine: Lenovo IdeaPad 5 14IAL7
Partitions: 


Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:   [O]
Detect network card:[O]
Configure network:  [O]
Detect media:   [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Clock/timezone setup:   [O]
User/password setup:[O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install tasks:  [O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Overall install:[O]

Comments/Problems:

Hi,

I don't have a bug to report, installation went smooth this time! Just
a suggestion to make: My laptop has a built-in fingerprint reader
(relevant output of lsusb below). However, after installation it is
still impossible to register a fingerprint on the user setup page of
the gnome-settings app. This possibility is only added after the
libpam-fprintd package is installed. Thus, my suggestion is that if a
fingerprint reader is detected during the hardware detection phase
during the Debian installation to install the libpam-fprintd package.

Thanks!

 - Fabian


Bus 003 Device 003: ID 04f3:0c4d Elan Microelectronics Corp. ELAN:Fingerprint


-- Package-specific info:

==
Installer lsb-release:
==
DISTRIB_ID=Debian
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Debian GNU/Linux installer"
DISTRIB_RELEASE="13 (trixie) - installer build 20230808-00:02:33"
X_INSTALLATION_MEDIUM=cdrom

==
Installer hardware-summary:
==
uname -a: Linux brainbug 6.4.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.4.4-2 
(2023-07-30) x86_64 GNU/Linux
lspci -knn: 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:4601] 
(rev 04)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:382b]
lspci -knn: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Alder 
Lake-UP3 GT2 [Iris Xe Graphics] [8086:46a8] (rev 0c)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:382f]
lspci -knn: 00:04.0 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation 
Alder Lake Innovation Platform Framework Processor Participant [8086:461d] (rev 
04)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:3832]
lspci -knn: 00:06.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 12th Gen Core 
Processor PCI Express x4 Controller #0 [8086:464d] (rev 04)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: COMPAL Electronics Inc Device [14c0:013d]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: pcieport
lspci -knn: 00:08.0 System peripheral [0880]: Intel Corporation 12th Gen Core 
Processor Gaussian & Neural Accelerator [8086:464f] (rev 04)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:3838]
lspci -knn: 00:0d.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation Alder Lake-P 
Thunderbolt 4 USB Controller [8086:461e] (rev 04)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device [8086:7270]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: xhci_pci
lspci -knn: 00:14.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation Alder Lake PCH USB 
3.2 xHCI Host Controller [8086:51ed] (rev 01)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:3825]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: xhci_pci
lspci -knn: 00:14.2 RAM memory [0500]: Intel Corporation Alder Lake PCH Shared 
SRAM [8086:51ef] (rev 01)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:3823]
lspci -knn: 00:15.0 Serial bus controller [0c80]: Intel Corporation Alder Lake 
PCH Serial IO I2C Controller #0 [8086:51e8] (rev 01)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:3814]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: intel-lpss
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: intel_lpss_pci
lspci -knn: 00:15.3 Serial bus controller [0c80]: Intel Corporation Alder Lake 
PCH Serial IO I2C Controller #3 [8086:51eb] (rev 01)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:3821]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: intel-lpss
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: intel_lpss_pci
lspci -knn: 00:16.0 Communication controller [0780]: Intel Corporation Alder 
Lake PCH HECI Controller [8086:51e0] (rev 01)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:382d]
lspci -knn: 00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:51ba] 
(rev 01)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:3809]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: pcieport
lspci -knn: 00:1d.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Alder Lake PCI Express 
x1 Root Port #10 [8086:51b1] (rev 01)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:380d]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: pcieport
lspci -knn: 00:1e.0 Communication controller [0780]: Intel Corporation Alder 
Lake PCH UART #0 [8086:51a8] (rev 01)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:3818]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: intel-lpss
lspci -knn: 

Bug#1035824: installation-reports: unable to detect Realtek RTL8188EUS 802.11n USB WiFi adapter

[Fabian Greffrath]

Package: installation-reports
Severity: normal

Boot method: USB
Image version: debian-bookworm-DI-rc2-amd64-netinst.iso (downloaded 2023-05-05)

Machine: Lenovo IdeaPad 5


Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:   [O]
Detect network card:[E]
Configure network:  [ ]
Detect media:   [ ]
Load installer modules: [ ]
Clock/timezone setup:   [ ]
User/password setup:[ ]
Detect hard drives: [ ]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install tasks:  [ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Overall install:[E]

Comments/Problems:

Sadly, another failed attempt to install Debian on my brand-new Lenovo
IdeaPad 5, this time using a USB dongle equiped with the Realtek
RTL8188EUS chip set.

The installer failed to detect the network adapter and presented me
with a list of kernel modules, none of which got my device to work.
This is what dmesg reports after I plug the adapter into a USB port on
my current device, which is obviously not the same one as the report
applies to  (which is why I removed all of the appended logs):

[42871.476218] usb 1-4: new high-speed USB device number 19 using xhci_hcd
[42871.624725] usb 1-4: New USB device found, idVendor=0bda, idProduct=8179, 
bcdDevice= 0.00
[42871.624729] usb 1-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[42871.624731] usb 1-4: Product: 802.11n NIC
[42871.624732] usb 1-4: Manufacturer: Realtek
[42871.624733] usb 1-4: SerialNumber: 00E04C0001
[42871.936975] r8188eu: module is from the staging directory, the quality is 
unknown, you have been warned.
[42871.970033] usbcore: registered new interface driver r8188eu
[42872.005633] r8188eu 1-4:1.0 wlx482254c71aaf: renamed from wlan0
[42872.597812] r8188eu 1-4:1.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware 
rtlwifi/rtl8188eufw.bin
[42872.597825] r8188eu 1-4:1.0: Firmware Version 11, SubVersion 1, Signature 
0x88e1
[42881.731472] r8188eu 1-4:1.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware 
rtlwifi/rtl8188eufw.bin

Interstingly, calling dmesg on the system where the installation
attempt failed, the line starting with 42871.936975,i.e. where the
actual kernel module is loaded, and all following ones are omitted.


Hope this helps!

Cheers,

 - Fabian

Bug#1035569: installation-reports: failed to detect Realtek RTL8852BE WiFi 6 802.11ax PCIe adapter

[Fabian Greffrath]

Package: installation-reports
Severity: normal

Boot method: USB
Image version: debian-bookworm-DI-rc2-amd64-netinst.iso from 2023-05-05
Date: 2023-05-05 12:00

Machine: Lenovo IdeaPad 5 14IAL7
Partitions: 


Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:   [O]
Detect network card:[E]
Configure network:  [ ]
Detect media:   [ ]
Load installer modules: [ ]
Clock/timezone setup:   [ ]
User/password setup:[ ]
Detect hard drives: [ ]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install tasks:  [ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Overall install:[E]

Comments/Problems:

Thi shappened on a different machine than the one I write this report
from (obviously, thus removed the logs below).

Today I attempted to install Debian bookworm on a brand new Lenovo
IdeaPad 5 14IAL7 with an i5-1235U CPU, 16GB RAM and 512GB SDD.

The installation failed to proceed at the network card detection
stage. Apparently, the machine has a Realtek RTL8852BE adapter, which
*should* be supported by recent kernels. However, the installer
presented me with a list of kernel modules to choose from. I went
through the list and selected anything that even remotely matched the
adapter name, but without success. Since I only had downloaded the
netinst image, I had to quit the installation proess at this point.

Cheers,

 - Fabian

Bug#996955: task-desktop silently pulls in task-desktop-gnome via Recommends

[Fabian Greffrath]

Am 21.10.2021 21:05, schrieb Brian Potkin:

Fortunately, not selecting it isn't of any consequence. A user gets
what else is chosen.


I don't consider it "fortunate", it is inconsistent that having that 
choice selected or not does not make a difference as long as any other 
choice is selected. And that having that choice selected but none of the 
others will indeed install one of the others.



No, that is not the case. Selecting "Desktop Environment" only will
have the effect of selecting the default desktop. This could be Xfce,
which is not the first one in the list.


Yes, right, that's on non-amd64/non-i386. That's even more confusing, 
that selecting the generic choice but not explicitly selecting any of 
the choices in the list will implicitly install the third choice in that 
list.


 - Fabian

Bug#996955: task-desktop silently pulls in task-desktop-gnome via Recommends

[Fabian Greffrath]

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Am Donnerstag, dem 21.10.2021 um 18:33 +0100 schrieb Brian Potkin:
> I think this is exactly the way it was designed. Whether the design
> is the best is what has been brought up in this report.

The results are pretty surprising and unpredictable, though.

> There is the concept of "default desktop". At the present time it is
> Gnome. The first selection is for the default. The description for
> task-desktop says:

You don't have a chance to read the description of the task-desktop
package during d-i. As Holger already stated, it must be made clear
that merely selecting "Desktop Environment" will have the same effect
as selecting the first one in the list, even if this has been
explicitly unselected.

 - Fabian

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Bug#996955: task-desktop silently pulls in task-desktop-gnome via Recommends

[Fabian Greffrath]

Hi Holger,

thanks for your reply!

Am 21.10.2021 16:31, schrieb Holger Wansing:

Selecting "Desktop Environment", but not choose one of the displayed
possiblities (like "GNOME", "KDE" and so on) is not the way, how this
dialog was designed, I guess.


Yes, apparently. :/

I could imagine a solution, where the checkbox in the first line 
"Desktop

Environment" is not directly changeable at all, but gets automatically
checked or unchecked, if the user selects one of the desktop 
environment

options below (or does not check any of them).
Or the first line having no checkbox at all would be even better.


Yes, one of these options would clearly help improve this experience.

Thanks!

Cheers,

 - Fabian

Bug#996955: task-desktop silently pulls in task-desktop-gnome via Recommends

[Fabian Greffrath]

Package: task-desktop
Version: 3.68
Severity: normal
Tags: d-i
X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-boot@lists.debian.org

Hi,

I just installed Debian stable in a virtual machine. When I was asked
during the installation process which "meta-packages" to install I
left "Desktop Environment" selected but explicitly deselected GNOME. I
expected to end up with a minimal graphical environment, e.g. X with
twm and xterm or similar. However, I was surprised to find out after
installation that indeed the entire GNOME desktop was installed albeit
me explicitly deselecting it during installation.

The reason seems to be that task-desktop Recommends a whole list of
alternative desktop environments with task-desktop-gnome being the
first on the list -- and since Recommends are installed by default and
since the first of a list of alternatives is installed by default,
this is how I ended up getting GNOME installed, although I didn't even
want it. The outcome is the same as if I had left the GNOME checkbox
selected, which is quite surpsising and unexpected to me.

Please consider introducing an absolute bare minimum package to let
task-desktop depend on (by means of Recommends) instead of falling
back to GNOME. Thanks!

Cheers,

 - Fabian



-- System Information:
Debian Release: bookworm/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable-debug'), (500, 'experimental'), 
(500, 'unstable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 5.14.0-2-amd64 (SMP w/8 CPU threads)
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

Versions of packages task-desktop depends on:
ii  desktop-base11.0.3
ii  tasksel 3.68
ii  xorg1:7.7+23
ii  xserver-xorg-input-all  1:7.7+23
ii  xserver-xorg-video-all  1:7.7+23

Versions of packages task-desktop recommends:
ii  alsa-utils  1.2.5.1-1
ii  anacron 2.3-31+b1
ii  avahi-daemon0.8-5
ii  eject   2.37.2-1
ii  firefox 93.0-1
ii  fonts-symbola   2.60-1.1
ii  iw  5.9-3
ii  libnss-mdns 0.14.1-2
ii  sudo1.9.5p2-3
ii  task-gnome-desktop  3.68
ii  xdg-utils   1.1.3-4.1

task-desktop suggests no packages.

-- no debconf information

Re: Bug#847567: [Pkg-fonts-devel] Bug#847567: ttf-dejavu: Probably removal needed

[Fabian Greffrath]

Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> It would be great to check with debian-boot@ before handling such RM
> requests (removal of udeb-producing packages). We would have had a
> chance to switch to the “new” package.

Oh, I am sorry for this. I hope the actual switch is as easy as I imagine
(s/ttf/fonts/)?

Cheers,

Fabian

Bug#762054: [Pkg-fonts-devel] Bug#762054: d-i.debian.org: investigate ttf-* vs. fonts-* for udebs?

[Fabian Greffrath]

Hi Christian,

sorry for the late reply!

Am Sonntag, den 26.07.2015, 09:19 +0200 schrieb Christian PERRIER:
> Guys, do you think we want to manage a transition for, say
> ttf-freefont-udeb->fonts-freefont-udeb (with transitional package,
> etc. as we did for the ttf->fonts transitions)or will we just
> replace the package (given that only the installer is using the udeb)
> ?

I think we should simply replace the package with the one following the
new naming scheme and just ping the d-i maintainers about it.

Cheers,

Fabian


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Bug#762054: [Pkg-fonts-devel] Bug#762054: d-i.debian.org: investigate ttf-* vs. fonts-* for udebs?

[Fabian Greffrath]

Hi Cyril,

Am Freitag, den 10.07.2015, 04:07 +0200 schrieb Cyril Brulebois:
> fonts-dejavu and fonts-freefont maintainers, do you concur?
> This would post-alpha 1.

speaking as an Uplaoder for both fonts-freefont and fonts-dejavu, I'd
concur that it should be safe and even recommended to switch to the new
font packages and use the new package naming scheme.

 - Fabian


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xfce as default desktop?

[Fabian Greffrath]

Hi all,

I have just seen that as per commit 2a962cc6 tasksel now install xfce 
as default desktop instead of gnome. has this been discussed 
somewhere? The commit text suggests that it has not... :/


 - Fabian


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Re: Bug#680084: memtest86+.postinst script gets stuck

[Fabian Greffrath]

reassign 680084 os-prober
found 680084 1.54
thanks

Am 19.07.2012 09:42, schrieb Harald Dunkel:

Looking at the grub-install: It seems that os-prober (run
by update-grub) starts a "grub-mount" tool that keeps on
running, even though the update-grub already did an exit.
ps -ef showed me a few of these:

grub-mount /dev/mapper/vg00-root2 /var/lib/os-prober/mount

If I kick out os-prober then the old memtest86+ postinst
doesn't get stuck.

So I would suggest to reassign this bug to os-prober.
Version is 1.54.


Agreed.


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Bug#658089: cracklib2: Please add a udeb for early password quality checking in d-i

[Fabian Greffrath]

Package: cracklib2
Severity: wishlist

Hi,

it would be nice if there was a cracklib udeb which could be integrated into
d-i to allow for password quality checking for the root and first user password
entered during installation. It wouldn't necessarily block installation if the
chosen password is of bad quality, just inform the user. I find it embarrassing
if Debian accepts root passwords like "1234" or "qwer" without even
complaining. ;)

 - Fabian



-- System Information:
Debian Release: wheezy/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (901, 'testing'), (501, 'unstable'), (101, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 3.1.0-1-686-pae (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=de_DE.utf8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash



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Bug#649575: task-german: I doubt the usefulness of dict in task-german

[Fabian Greffrath]

Package: task-german
Version: 3.07
Severity: minor

Hi,

I doubt that the dict and trans-de-en packages should still be part of a
default German Debian install, e.g. recommended by task-german. For the desktop
there is gnome-dictionary installed by default and other users probably don't
need a dictionary or are either skilled enough to look up in one of the
powerful web dictionaries (e.g. leo.org or dict.cc) or install the dict package
on purpose.

The same is true for the doc-linux-de package, which contains utterly outdated
HOWTOs and FAQs with regard to system administration. Most of the documents are
obsolete and for the few pieces of information that still apply, I doubt that
doc-linux-de is the right package to provide them.

This is not about disk space or package quality, this is merely about keeping
the default Debian package selection as uncluttered as possible. I have CC:ed
the respective package maintainers for their opinion.

Best regards,
Fabian



-- System Information:
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  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (501, 'unstable'), (101, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 3.0.0-2-686-pae (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=de_DE.utf8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8)
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Bug#636209: tasksel: In debian/control, fix the Vcs-Git field to point to the right location and add a Vcs-Browser field

[Fabian Greffrath]

Am 04.08.2011 18:56, schrieb Joey Hess:

IIRC there was quite a long thread about this during the alioth
transition, and it's not clear to me that it makes sense to use
anonscm.debian.org when git.debian.org still works (and it used by
more than 10 thousand packages). I won't be making this change until I
see a clear communication or consensus toward doing it.


Could you pease add the Vcs-Browser field nevertheless?

 - Fabian




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Bug#636209: tasksel: In debian/control, fix the Vcs-Git field to point to the right location and add a Vcs-Browser field

[Fabian Greffrath]

Package: tasksel
Version: 3.05
Severity: minor

Please find a patch attached.

 - Fabian



-- System Information:
Debian Release: wheezy/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (501, 'unstable'), (101, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 3.0.0-1-686-pae (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=de_DE.utf8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages tasksel depends on:
ii  aptitude  0.6.4-1terminal-based package manager (te
ii  cdebconf [debconf-2.0]0.156  Debian Configuration Management Sy
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.41 Debian configuration management sy
ii  liblocale-gettext-perl1.05-7 module using libc functions for in
ii  perl  5.12.4-2   Larry Wall's Practical Extraction 
ii  tasksel-data  3.05   Official tasks used for installati

tasksel recommends no packages.

tasksel suggests no packages.

-- debconf information:
  tasksel/title:
  tasksel/desktop: gnome
  tasksel/first:
  tasksel/tasks:
>From 9fab2b07a9738e88791aa6b90b10311ff32c5c88 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Fabian Greffrath 
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 14:41:27 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] In debian/control, fix the Vcs-Git field to point to the
 right location and add a Vcs-Browser field.

---
 debian/control |3 ++-
 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/debian/control b/debian/control
index 3b2f668..cb68c9d 100644
--- a/debian/control
+++ b/debian/control
@@ -5,7 +5,8 @@ Maintainer: Debian Install System Team 

 Uploaders: Joey Hess , Otavio Salvador 
 Standards-Version: 3.9.2
 Build-Depends: po-debconf, debhelper (>= 8), gettext, dpkg-dev (>= 1.9.0)
-Vcs-Git: git://git.debian.org/git/tasksel/tasksel.git
+Vcs-Git: git://anonscm.debian.org/tasksel/tasksel.git
+Vcs-Browser: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=tasksel/tasksel.git
 
 Package: tasksel
 Section: admin
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Bug#613966: tasksel: desktop task should maybe install xserver-xorg instead of xorg

[Fabian Greffrath]

Am 19.02.2011 22:00, schrieb Fabian Greffrath:

Argh, sorry! I meant to reassign this request to the X Task Force, i.e.
xtf, but mixed up the letters...


X Strike Force (xsf), gosh!



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Bug#613966: tasksel: desktop task should maybe install xserver-xorg instead of xorg

[Fabian Greffrath]

Am Freitag, den 18.02.2011, 19:34 +0100 schrieb Cyril Brulebois:
> (X Font Server? No.)

Argh, sorry! I meant to reassign this request to the X Task Force, i.e.
xtf, but mixed up the letters...

> If xorg is “too much”, then pick xserver-xorg and add packages…

Alright, would this be feasable for tasksel as well?

 - Fabian





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Bug#613966: tasksel: desktop task should maybe install xserver-xorg instead of xorg

[Fabian Greffrath]

Am Freitag, den 18.02.2011, 19:54 +0100 schrieb Samuel Thibault:
> Err, you mean installing xfs+fonts instead of mere fonts?!

No, sorry. As already answered to Cyril, I was talking about the X Task
Force (xtf) but ended up typing xfs. :/

 - Fabian





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Bug#613966: tasksel: desktop task should maybe install xserver-xorg instead of xorg

[Fabian Greffrath]

Am Freitag, den 18.02.2011, 18:01 +0100 schrieb Samuel Thibault:
> You'll admit that the weight of twm, xcalc etc. is not very high.

Sure, but I consider them obsolete on a system that has Gnome or Kde
installed. And please remember that the release notes had to get deleted
from CD1 for some reason...

> That being said, yes you want the fonts and xbase-clients, else the
> whole X stack will not work without more configuration.

Hm, maybe I should reassign this request to the xfs and ask them to
rearrange the packages again so that at least one of them provides all
the necessary parts that you described.

 - Fabian





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Bug#613966: tasksel: desktop task should maybe install xserver-xorg instead of xorg

[Fabian Greffrath]

Package: tasksel
Version: 2.89
Severity: wishlist

Hi,

the changelog of xorg-server (2:1.9.4-2) reveals the following:

In a nutshell, one may want to choose between installing:
 - xserver-xorg-core: the server itself, with no strings attached.
 - xserver-xorg: pulls the server and drivers, contains the X wrapper
   and some documentation.
 - xorg: pulls xserver-xorg as well as various X11 clients and fonts.

Currently the desktop task of tasksel installs the whole xorg package and thus
pulls in a lot of utility packages. I think tasksel should only install the
xserver-xorg package instead. I mean, do we really need twm and xcalc when
tasksel installs an entire desktop environment?

 - Fabian



-- System Information:
Debian Release: wheezy/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (550, 'unstable'), (400, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=de_DE.utf8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages tasksel depends on:
ii  aptitude  0.6.3-3.2  terminal-based package manager (te
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.38 Debian configuration management sy
ii  liblocale-gettext-perl1.05-6 Using libc functions for internati
ii  tasksel-data  2.89   Official tasks used for installati

tasksel recommends no packages.

tasksel suggests no packages.

-- debconf information:
  tasksel/title:
  tasksel/desktop: gnome
  tasksel/first: Desktop environment, Standard system
  tasksel/tasks:



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Bug#612656: installation-report: ext3, c'mon it's 2011

[Fabian Greffrath]

Am 10.02.2011 09:27, schrieb Fabian Greffrath:

Ahem, <http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SqueezeGoals>.


Sorry, please forget about it. I've read it three more times and 
realized I must have misinterpreted "ext4 support" as "ext4 by default".


 - Fabian



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Bug#612656: installation-report: ext3, c'mon it's 2011

[Fabian Greffrath]

Am 10.02.2011 06:01, schrieb Christian PERRIER:

ext4 has been activated for the first time in squeeze. As we're not
crazy, nobody in the team imagined a single second to make it the
default. This may change for wheezy.


Ahem, .

I don't expect anyone to be crazy, but two years of upstream 
stabilization is a long time, even in terms of Debian. ;) IIRC, even 
RHEL 6 has ext4 as default file system.


 - Fabian



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Bug#612656: installation-report: ext3, c'mon it's 2011

[Fabian Greffrath]

Package: installation-reports
Version: 2.44
Severity: normal

Hi,

installation worked liike a charm. However, I selected automatic partitioning
and formatting and ended up with a single ext3 partition. Come on, it's 2011
and ext4 is considered stable since at least two years now. Please choose ext4
as default file system for fresh installs.

Thanks a lot anyway,
 - Fabian



-- Package-specific info:

Boot method: cd
Image version: firmware-6.0.0-i386-netinst.iso
Date: 

Machine: Virtualbox with Windows 7
Partitions: 


Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:   [ ]
Detect network card:[ ]
Configure network:  [ ]
Detect CD:  [ ]
Load installer modules: [ ]
Detect hard drives: [ ]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
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uname -a: Linux debian 2.6.32-5-486 #1 Fri Dec 10 15:32:53 UTC 2010 i686 
GNU/Linux
lspci -knn: 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 440FX - 82441FX PMC 
[Natoma] [8086:1237] (rev 02)
lspci -knn: 00:01.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation 82371SB PIIX3 ISA 
[Natoma/Triton II] [8086:7000]
lspci -knn: 00:01.1 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 
IDE [8086:7111] (rev 01)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ata_piix
lspci -knn: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: InnoTek Systemberatung 
GmbH VirtualBox Graphics Adapter [80ee:beef]
lspci -knn: 00:03.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation 82540EM 
Gigabit Ethernet Controller [8086:100e] (rev 02)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device [8086:001e]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: e1000
lspci -knn: 00:04.0 System peripheral [0880]: InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH 
VirtualBox Guest Service [80ee:cafe]
lspci -knn: 00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Intel Corporation 
82801AA AC'97 Audio Controller [8086:2415] (rev 01)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device [8086:]
lspci -knn: 00:06.0 USB Controller [0c03]: Apple Computer Inc. 
KeyLargo/Intrepid USB [106b:003f]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd
lspci -knn: 00:07.0 Bridge [0680]: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI 
[8086:7113] (rev 08)
lspci -knn: 00:0d.0 SATA controller [0106]: Intel Corporation 82801HBM/HEM 
(ICH8M/ICH8M-E) SATA AHCI Controller [8086:2829] (rev 02)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ahci
usb-list: 
usb-list: Bus 01 Device 01: OHCI Host Controller [1d6b:0001]
usb-list:Level 00 Parent 00 Port 00  Class 09(hub  ) Subclass 00 Protocol 00
usb-list:Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.32-5-486 ohci_hcd
usb-list:Interface 00: Class 09(hub  ) Subclass 00 Protocol 00 Driver hub
usb-list: 
usb-list: Bus 01 Device 02: USB Tablet [80ee:0021]
usb-list:Level 01 Parent 01 Port 00  Class 00(>ifc ) Subclass 00 Protocol 00
usb-list:Manufacturer: VirtualBox
usb-list:Interface 00: Class 03(HID  ) Subclass 00 Protocol 00 Driver usbhid
lsmod: Module  Size  Used by
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lsmod: ntfs  162591  0 
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lsmod: jfs   133416  0 
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lsmod: ext3   92732  1 
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lsmod: rsrc_nonstatic  7061  0 
lsmod: pcmcia_core20510  1 rsrc_nonstatic
lsmod: ide_generic  801  0 [permanent]
lsm

Bug#611951: Default GNOME desktop installation has both xsane *and* simple-scan

[Fabian Greffrath]

> Would be awesome if this could be integrated into the next squeeze point 
> release.

This would indeed be awesome. Having two scanning applications installed by 
default sucks!

 - Fabian





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Bug#490205: closed by Joey Hess (closing)

[Fabian Greffrath]

found 490205 2.88
thanks


As I suggested, it seems that packages that use ttf-liberation
do depend on it, so I see no reason to explicitly list it.


1) That's still not true for openoffice.org as of version 1:3.2.1-10, 
which only recommends the ttf-liberation package.


2) I don't quite get your argumentation. The ttf-liberation package 
contains fonts that substitute the notorious Arial, Times, etc. fonts 
found in other common *desktop environments*. I do not expect any 
other package to *depend* on them, but I expect them to be installed 
on a standard install desktop system and be available for usage in 
other packages (e.g. office software).


Please add this package to the desktop task. It is independent of the 
used desktop (Gnome, KDE, ...) and also independent of the office 
suite of choice (openoffice.org, abiword, ...).


IMHO, it should simply be there.

 - Fabian



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Bug#579155: tasksel: installs *two* entire office suites

[Fabian Greffrath]

Am 27.09.2010 12:29, schrieb Julien Cristau:

As far as I'm concerned, the former (for what that's worth, which is
probably not much).


Should this discussion be escalated to -devel? I mean, it affects 
every single Debian desktop install.


 - Fabian



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Bug#579155: tasksel: installs *two* entire office suites

[Fabian Greffrath]

Am 27.09.2010 12:19, schrieb Josselin Mouette:

As I already explained a the beginning of the bug report, OOo
integration with GNOME is a bad joke. The question is more: do we want


Yes, sorry, I forgot this part of the issue.


an office suite that can open this or that document, or an office suite
that is consistent and integrated correctly with the desktop?


All I want to achive with this bug report is a reasonable package list 
for the default Debian installation. I don't know what is "wring" or 
"right", either.


 - Fabian



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Bug#579155: tasksel: installs *two* entire office suites

[Fabian Greffrath]

Am 27.09.2010 09:04, schrieb Josselin Mouette:

I’ve seen that (with both abiword and gnumeric), and I’ve seen the
opposite too: documents that display fine in OOo but have everything
messed up in abiword.


Right, but is this really a good reason to keep both of them (i.e. 
that they fail *differently* when attempting to open documents saved 
in proprietary file formats)?


I'd say, OOo is generally more "complete" than Abiword+Gnumeric. 
People who know they want Abiword (e.g. because they want to use one 
of its more advanced features that has no equivalent in OOo) also know 
how to install it via apt.


 - Fabian



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Bug#579155: tasksel: installs *two* entire office suites

[Fabian Greffrath]

No joke, it has been yesterday that somebody told me "Debian is weird,
because it installs two word processors by default."

Am Montag, den 26.04.2010, 11:02 +0200 schrieb Josselin Mouette:
> That’s not a good solution either, since there are lots of features OOo
> has that abiword/gnumeric don’t.

I'd say that people who know they will use the advanced features of
Abiword (e.g. collaborative writing) will also know how to install it.
And, installing Abiword is less a burden than installing OOo-writer
because of the smaller package size.

 - Fabian





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Bug#579155: tasksel: installs *two* entire office suites

[Fabian Greffrath]

Am 26.04.2010 11:02, schrieb Josselin Mouette:

This is how we end up with two office suites and two navigators.


By navigators you mean web browsers?


Yeah, you’re probably right. Let’s demote it to suggests.


xsane does not integrate well with GNOME either. How about simple-scan 
or gnome-scan/flegita?




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Bug#579155: tasksel: installs *two* entire office suites

[Fabian Greffrath]

Am 26.04.2010 09:33, schrieb Josselin Mouette:

I agree it is a problem, but there is no perfect solution.
   * The OOo integration with GNOME is a joke.
   * Gnumeric and Abiword both have features that OOo has not.


So you suggest to drop OOo altogether? Well, that would be rigorous 
but consistent. However, I fear that we'll see some rather long faces 
from user complaining about their pet package missing...



As for planner, I’m not sure either. Maybe it’s not suitable for the
default installation.


I really don't consider it usefull enough to justify it getting 
installed on each and every Debian desktop system out there.



In all cases, dropping gnome-office altogether is not the way to go,
since currently it’s the dependency that brings inkscape (which beats
OOo draw by knock-out), gimp and xsane.


You are definitely right that the latter three packages should get 
installed by default. And indeed, in tasksel, gimp is in the desktop 
task and both inkscape and xsane are in the gnome-desktop task, so 
there is no need to pull them in via gnome-office.


 - Fabian



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Bug#579167: tasksel: is it really necessary to install gnome-accessibility on each and every system?

[Fabian Greffrath]

Package: tasksel
Version: 2.81
Severity: minor
Tags: squeeze

Hi,  one of the first things that I do on each freshly installed Debian desktop
system is deinstalling the gnome-accessibility packages, i.e. dasher, gok and
gnome-orca plus all of their dependencies. The reason is, I am lucky enough to
not depend on any of these software for my daily work. On the other hand I
wonder (and this is really more of a question than a statement) if it is really
necessary to have all these packages installed by default? I mean, is it
possible at all for a person with disabilities to install Debian and use it
from d-i on without the help of another person? And if the answer is "no",
couldn't we expect this helping person to also install all the necessary
accessibility packages, too? Please reconsider if gnome-accessibility does have
to get installed by default. Please don't get me wrong, but I believe the
number of computer users with disabilities who can use their computer ad-hoc
just because gnome-accessibility is installed is rather low. If you find this
bug report inappropriate, please feel free to close it.  Cheers, Fabian


-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (550, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-4-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages tasksel depends on:
ii  aptitude  0.6.1.5-3  terminal-based package manager (te
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.30 Debian configuration management sy
ii  liblocale-gettext-perl1.05-6 Using libc functions for internati
ii  tasksel-data  2.81   Official tasks used for installati

tasksel recommends no packages.

tasksel suggests no packages.

-- debconf information:
  tasksel/first: Graphical desktop environment, Laptop, Standard system 
utilities
  tasksel/tasks:
  tasksel/title:
  tasksel/desktop: gnome



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Bug#579155: tasksel: installs *two* entire office suites

[Fabian Greffrath]

Package: tasksel
Version: 2.81
Severity: minor
Tags: squeeze

Hi,  tasksel installs two entire office suites on a freshly installed Debian
desktop system, namely openoffice.org and gnome-office. So there are two word
processing and two spreadsheet applications (plus the IMHO rather useless
planner application) installed, which all require hard disk space and
installation time. I'd suggest to drop one of both office suites either
directly in tasksel or by e.g. making the gnome meta-package depend on
something like "gnome-office | openoffice.org-gnome".  Cheers, Fabian


-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (550, 'unstable'), (400, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-4-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages tasksel depends on:
ii  aptitude  0.6.1.5-3  terminal-based package manager (te
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.30 Debian configuration management sy
ii  liblocale-gettext-perl1.05-6 Using libc functions for internati
ii  tasksel-data  2.81   Official tasks used for installati

tasksel recommends no packages.

tasksel suggests no packages.

-- debconf information:
  tasksel/title:
  tasksel/desktop: gnome
  tasksel/first:
  tasksel/tasks:



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Bug#560696: tasksel: The mail-server task should install dovecot instead of qpopper and uw-imapd

[Fabian Greffrath]

Let's see whether we have more comments about this.


I second this request. Please install dovecot instead of the other 
packages.



PS: the mail-server task also has a comment with "# HELP: what about
some webmail thing?" which would be a good idea if there is something
that makes a good consensus (roundcube?).


Instead of roundcube I'd recommend squirrelmail, which I have running 
nicely on a server that has nothing more than 50MB of RAM.


 - Fabian


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Bug#571204: tasksel: Does not install network management software for LXDE

[Fabian Greffrath]

Package: tasksel
Version: 2.81
Severity: normal

Hi,

AFAICT of the four desktop environments that Debian offers to install from 
installations CDs, LXDE is currenly the only one that does not ship with 
network management software. In GNOME, network-manager-gnome is pulled in via 
recommends of the gnome meta-package. In KDE network-manager-kde is installed 
via the kde-desktop task. Finally in XFCE wicd is installed in the xfce-desktop 
task. I recommend to do the same for the lxde-desktop task.

Cheers,
Fabian



-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (550, 'unstable'), (400, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-2-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
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Bug#571201: tasksel: The desktop task still depends on swfdec-mozilla

[Fabian Greffrath]

Package: tasksel
Version: 2.81
Severity: normal

Hi,

the desktop task still installs swfdec-mozilla, which has been thrown out of 
the meta-gnome2 (1:2.28+2) package "since it’s incompatible with webkit 
currently :(". In current SVN a dependency on mozilla-plugin-gnash has been 
added instead.

Cheers,
Fabian



-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (550, 'unstable'), (400, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-2-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages tasksel depends on:
ii  aptitude  0.6.1.5-2  terminal-based package manager (te
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.28 Debian configuration management sy
ii  liblocale-gettext-perl1.05-6 Using libc functions for internati
pn  tasksel-data   (no description available)

tasksel recommends no packages.

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Bug#563825: os-prober: /u/l/os-probes/mounted/20microsoft spits an error if partition name contains a blank character

[Fabian Greffrath]

Package: os-prober
Version: 1.35
Severity: normal

Hi,

i have an external HDD connected to my USB port. the manufacturer has chosen 
the name "MY PASSPORT" for its primary partition. When I run os-prober, it 
spits the following error message
  ls: cannot access /media/MY: No such file or directory

This happens, because in line 57 in /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/20microsoft the 
mount point is passed to item_in_dir() without quoting, resulting in 
"/media/MY" to be interpreted as the second argument and "PASSPORT" as the 
third.

The attached patch fixes this behaviour.

Cheers,
Fabian


-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (550, 'unstable'), (400, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-trunk-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages os-prober depends on:
ii  libc6 2.10.2-3   Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib

os-prober recommends no packages.

os-prober suggests no packages.

-- no debconf information
--- 20microsoft 2010-01-05 16:57:01.0 +0100
+++ /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/20microsoft  2010-01-05 16:58:02.0 
+0100
@@ -54,7 +54,7 @@
fi
fi
 # MS-DOS
-elif [ -d "$(item_in_dir dos $2)" ]; then
+elif [ -d "$(item_in_dir dos "$2")" ]; then
long="MS-DOS 5.x/6.x/Win3.1"
short=MS-DOS
 # 95/98/Me

Bug#532852: Please run console-setup during initrd phase

[Fabian Greffrath]

Sven Joachim schrieb:

|   * Set keymap and font in the initramfs if possible. Setting these as early
[...]
The downside is that their package depends on initramfs-tools which
would probably not be desirable for Debian.


The ubuntu changelog tells "Set keymap and font in the initramfs if 
possible.". The phrase "if possible" sounds like this feature will 
simply be unavailable if the appropriate initrd tool package isn't 
found, so console-setup wouldn't have to depend on this package (but 
maybe suggest it instead).


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Bug#532852: Please run console-setup during initrd phase

[Fabian Greffrath]

Package: console-setup
Version: 1.36
Severity: wishlist

Hi,

/etc/rcS.d/S49console-setup is run rather late in the rcS runlevel, 
leading to a visible and ugly flickering of the screen and changing of 
the font during the system boot process.


I don't know if this is possible technically, but if the font and 
keymap setting was moved to the initrd-phase, the whole boot process 
would appear in the improved font and it would not be interrupted by 
visible flickering and font changing anymore.


Best Regards,
Fabian


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Bug#519079: installation-report: please provide an option to skip the attempt to set the system clock via NTP

[Fabian Greffrath]

g
/etc/directfbrc: #disable-module=linux_input
/etc/directfbrc: #disable-module=keyboard
/etc/directfbrc: disable-module=ps2mouse

-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (500, 'testing'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.28-1-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

installation-report depends on no packages.

Versions of packages installation-report recommends:
ii  pciutils  1:3.0.3-2  Linux PCI Utilities
ii  reportbug 3.48   reports bugs in the
Debian distrib

installation-report suggests no packages.

-- no debconf information

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Bug#390139: maybe german should install hunspell

[Fabian Greffrath]

<_rene_> OOo originally used myspell as spellchecking engine, and mozilla did 
too
<_rene_> then with 2.0.2 OOo switched to hunspell, which is fully compatible 
with myspell and its dictionaries
<_rene_> so, for OOo alone, you could use hunspell-*
<_rene_> but as mozilla still uses myspell as their engine, this doesn't work


AFAIUI, both OOo and Iceweasel use hunspell these days, so maybe it is 
appropriate now to switch the dependency to hunspell-de*.


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Bug#490810: please include brasero in the gnome-desktop task

[Fabian Greffrath]

Package: tasksel
Version: 2.74.2
Severity: wishlist

Since the initial bug report #484121 has gone into a different
direction, I am filing this new one.

Please do not include serpentine in the gnome-desktop task, but
brasero instead. While serpentine can do nothing more than burning
audio CDs, brasero can also burn data CDs and DVDs. Additionally it
has a more common look if compared with NERO, which is the software of
choice for most people using a Windows system.

Cheers,
Fabian

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Bug#490205: please add ttf-liberation to the desktop task

[Fabian Greffrath]

Package: tasksel
Version: 2.74.2
Severity: wishlist

Hello Joey,

please add the ttf-liberation font package to the desktop task. I
believe that nearly everybody out there installing a desktop system
would like to have the free variants of the three infamous MS fonts
installed by default.

Thank you!

Cheers,
Fabian





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Bug#484121: tasksel: let's sync on the GNOME task

[Fabian Greffrath]

Emilio Pozuelo Monfort:

Or add brasero and drop serpentine. brasero is really nice and intuitive IMHO.


+1 for brasero.

While serpentine can do nothing more than burning audio CDs, brasero 
can also burn data CDs and DVDs. Additionally it has a more common 
look if compared with NERO, which is the software of choice for most 
people using a Windows system.



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Bug#476349: please provide a '--quiet' option (or similar)

[Fabian Greffrath]

Joey Hess schrieb:

The only way to supress kernel printks to the console is to write to
/proc/sys/kernel/printk. It is out of scope for os-proper to do that.


Allright?


I wish that the grub people had talked to us before deciding to use
os-prober by default. This looks like an increasingly bad idea.



Huh, why? Could you please explain your concerns to us?



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Bug#476349: please provide a '--quiet' option (or similar)

[Fabian Greffrath]

Package: os-prober
Version: 1.24
Severity: wishlist

Hi,

since grub-pc (>= 1.96+20080413-1) provides a wrapper script, that 
interprets os-prober's output and adds other operating systems to the 
grub menu, os-prober is allways run when 'update-grub' is run. It is 
annoying to have the console flooded ech time by kernel messages 
regarding os-prober's attempt to mount this or that partition. Will it 
be possible to introduce a '--quiet' option or similar to os-prober 
which will suppress these kernel messages?


Cheers,
Fabian
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Bug#419537: Video hardware (ATI Radeon 9500 Pro) not recognized during installation

[Fabian Greffrath]

Am Montag, den 16.04.2007, 15:24 +0200 schrieb Frans Pop:
> We need the output of 'lspci -nn' for the video controller for this. Can 
> you provide that please?

Sure!

$ lspci -nn
00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP (different
version?) [10de:01e0] (rev a2)
00:00.1 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller
1 [10de:01eb] (rev a2)
00:00.2 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller
4 [10de:01ee] (rev a2)
00:00.3 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller
3 [10de:01ed] (rev a2)
00:00.4 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller
2 [10de:01ec] (rev a2)
00:00.5 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller
5 [10de:01ef] (rev a2)
00:01.0 ISA bridge [0601]: nVidia Corporation nForce2 ISA Bridge
[10de:0060] (rev a3)
00:01.1 SMBus [0c05]: nVidia Corporation nForce2 SMBus (MCP) [10de:0064]
(rev a2)
00:02.0 USB Controller [0c03]: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller
[10de:0067] (rev a3)
00:02.1 USB Controller [0c03]: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller
[10de:0067] (rev a3)
00:02.2 USB Controller [0c03]: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller
[10de:0068] (rev a3)
00:04.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Ethernet
Controller [10de:0066] (rev a1)
00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: nVidia Corporation nForce
Audio Processing Unit [10de:006b] (rev a2)
00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: nVidia Corporation nForce2
AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) [10de:006a] (rev a1)
00:08.0 PCI bridge [0604]: nVidia Corporation nForce2 External PCI
Bridge [10de:006c] (rev a3)
00:09.0 IDE interface [0101]: nVidia Corporation nForce2 IDE [10de:0065]
(rev a2)
00:0d.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394) [0c00]: nVidia Corporation nForce2 FireWire
(IEEE 1394) Controller [10de:006e] (rev a3)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP [10de:01e8]
(rev a2)
01:08.0 Multimedia controller [0480]: Philips Semiconductors
SAA7134/SAA7135HL Video Broadcast Decoder [1131:7134] (rev 01)
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc R300 AD
[Radeon 9500 Pro] [1002:4144]
02:00.1 Display controller [0380]: ATI Technologies Inc R300 AD [Radeon
9500 Pro] (Secondary) [1002:4164]

> Which would be the correct driver to use? ati or radeon?

radeon

I guess that this issue is already fixed in discover1 (1.7.20), see
#415620. This is why I closed the bug just a few minutes ago. ;)

Cheers,
Fabian




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Bug#419537: Video hardware (ATI Radeon 9500 Pro) not recognized during installation

[Fabian Greffrath]

Package: installation-reports

Boot method: netinst

Machine: Targa Desktop 02/2003
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+
Memory: 758M

Hi!

Sorry, this will be no detailed installation-report, because apart from
this minor issue everything went smooth. But:

My video hardware has not been detected properly and I found my xorg
configured to use the 'vesafb' driver instead of 'ati' or 'radeon'.

My graphics card is an ATI Radeon 9500 Pro. This is the output for
lspci:

$ lspci -vvv
[...]
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc R300 AD
[Radeon 9500 Pro] (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 0002
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV-
VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping+ SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium
>TAbort- SERR- 

02:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc R300 AD [Radeon
9500 Pro] (Secondary)
Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 0003
Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV-
VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping+ SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium
>TAbort- SERR- 

My machine is manufactured by Targa, a company which is known for
`relabeling' the OEM hardware they assemble. For example, my motherboard
is an 'ASUS A7N8X Targa Edition' with its own firmware version which is
incompatible with the stock ones from the ASUS-Website. However, I guess
that the failed hardware detection of the graphics card has to do with
some modifications the hardware vendor did to the device.

Please reassign this bug to an appropriate package if this is not an
installer issue!

Thank you very much for your effort!!

Cheers,
Fabian




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Bug#418526: Can't open file `${prefix}/share/discover/pci.lst' for reading!

[Fabian Greffrath]

Package: discover1
Version: 1.7.19
Severity: important

--- Please enter the report below this line. ---

Hi!

When I run `discover -d' as root I get the following messages:

# discover -d
Reading PCI hardware database...
Can't open file `/etc/discover/pci.lst' for reading!
Reading PCI hardware database...
Reading PCI hardware database...
Can't open file `${prefix}/share/discover/pci.lst' for reading!
Reading USB hardware database...
Can't open file `/etc/discover/usb.lst' for reading!
Reading USB hardware database...
Reading USB hardware database...
Can't open file `${prefix}/share/discover/usb.lst' for reading!
Reading PCMCIA hardware database...
Can't open file `/etc/discover/pcmcia.lst' for reading!
Reading PCMCIA hardware database...
Reading PCMCIA hardware database...
Can't open file `${prefix}/share/discover/pcmcia.lst' for reading!
Reading PCI hardware database...
Can't open file `/etc/discover/pci-26.lst' for reading!
Reading PCI hardware database...
Reading PCI hardware database...
Can't open file `${prefix}/share/discover/pci-26.lst' for reading!
Reading USB hardware database...
Can't open file `/etc/discover/usb-26.lst' for reading!
Reading USB hardware database...
Reading USB hardware database...
Can't open file `${prefix}/share/discover/usb-26.lst' for reading!
Reading PCMCIA hardware database...
Can't open file `/etc/discover/pcmcia-26.lst' for reading!
Reading PCMCIA hardware database...
Reading PCMCIA hardware database...
Can't open file `${prefix}/share/discover/pcmcia-26.lst' for reading!
Reading PCI hardware database...
Can't open file `/etc/discover/pci-i386.lst' for reading!
Reading PCI hardware database...
Can't open file `/lib/discover/pci-i386.lst' for reading!
Reading PCI hardware database...
Can't open file `${prefix}/share/discover/pci-i386.lst' for reading!
Reading USB hardware database...
Can't open file `/etc/discover/usb-i386.lst' for reading!
Reading USB hardware database...
Can't open file `/lib/discover/usb-i386.lst' for reading!
Reading USB hardware database...
Can't open file `${prefix}/share/discover/usb-i386.lst' for reading!
Reading PCMCIA hardware database...
Can't open file `/etc/discover/pcmcia-i386.lst' for reading!
Reading PCMCIA hardware database...
Can't open file `/lib/discover/pcmcia-i386.lst' for reading!
Reading PCMCIA hardware database...
Can't open file `${prefix}/share/discover/pcmcia-i386.lst' for reading!

Probing PCI cards...
Found nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP (different version?) 
(bridge)
Found nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 1 (Unknown)
Found nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 4 (Unknown)
Found nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 3 (Unknown)
Found nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 2 (Unknown)
Found nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 5 (Unknown)
Found nVidia Corporation nForce2 ISA Bridge (bridge)
Found nVidia Corporation nForce2 SMBus (MCP) (Unknown)
Found nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (usb)
Found nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (usb)
Found nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (usb)
Found nVidia Corporation nForce2 Ethernet Controller (ethernet)
Found nVidia Corporation nForce Audio Processing Unit (sound)
Found nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) 
(sound)
Found nVidia Corporation nForce2 External PCI Bridge (bridge)
Found nVidia Corporation nForce2 IDE (ide)
Found nVidia Corporation nForce2 FireWire (IEEE 1394) 
Controller (bridge)
Found nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP (bridge)
Found Philips Semiconductors SAA7134/SAA7135HL Video Broadcast 
Decoder (video)
Found ATI Technologies Inc R300 AD [Radeon 9500 Pro] (video)
Found ATI Technologies Inc R300 AD [Radeon 9500 Pro] 
(Secondary) (video)

Probing USB devices...
Found Unknown Unknown
Found Unknown Unknown
Found Unknown Unknown
Found Unknown Unknown

Probing SCSI devices...
Found SPRING MultiCard Slot A (4)
Found SPRING MultiCard Slot C (4)

Probing parallel ports...

Probing serial ports...

Please note the lines stating 

Can't open file `${prefix}/share/di

Bug#390139: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Bug#390139: tasksel: some tasks have odd entries]

[Fabian Greffrath]

I just forwarded this mail to my private mail account.

Am Samstag, den 30.09.2006, 16:26 +0200 schrieb Fabian Greffrath:
> Maybe in the german-desktop task since the package's description says
> that hunspell is used in OOo. I'd need confirmation that hunspell is
> really used by OOo and that it's the best choice, since I'm not a German
> speaker I can't determine this on my own.

I must admit, I do not know this either...

> ITYM firefox-gnome-support.

Sure, I just had 'mozilla' in mind ;)

> Yes, both firefox and epiphany are installed. This reflects the fact
> that gnome's standard browser is epiphany, and the gnome desktop task
> installs a standard gnome desktop, but many users prefer firefox.

Alright, the more I think about it the more I like the package
selection. ;)

There is another topic concerning tasks/desktop I would like to discuss:
Is it really necessary to have _all_ those packages of the print-server
task installed to provide simple printing support? I am absolutely no
expert on printing and I myself have those packages installed on my
private system as well, but I wonder if all of them are really needed.

BTW: The package 'bonfire' which is installed in tasks/gnome-desktop
will be renamed to 'brasero' with the next upload of the package which
is currently in NEW.

Cheers and thanks for your work!

Fabian



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Bug#390139: tasksel: some tasks have odd entries

[Fabian Greffrath]

package: tasksel
version: 2.55
severity: minor

Hi!

I am a typical desktop user living in Germany, so I decided to have a
look at the concerning tasks (desktop, german, german-desktop,
gnome-desktop) and found some strange things:

tasks/desktop:
In line 9 'x-window-system-core' is installed. This is a transistional
meta-package which does nothing more than depend on 'xorg', so why not
install 'xorg' instead.

tasks/german:
There is a duplicate entry in lines 12 and 13 (wngerman). 
Maybe hunspell-de-[de,at,ch] should be installed as well or as a
replacement for the myspell packages?

tasks/german-desktop:
Maybe at least here the hunspell packages should be installed to provide
a modern spell-checker for OpenOffice.org?
It's annoying for a gnome user that 'kde-i18n-de' pulls half of kde
(e.g. arts and qt related stuff) into the system.

tasks/gnome-desktop:
I wonder if 'epiphany-browser' will still be installed although
'mozilla-gnome-support' gets installed. If yes, then we have two mozilla
engines installed on a new system which is highly redundant. If not,
then there is no need to install 'liferea' because "epiphany integrates
with liferea".
However I guess that installing specialized software like
'gnome-btdownload', 'grdesktop' or 'hardinfo' etc. does somehow give the
impression of an already-tweaked-and-modified-by-someone desktop to the
newly installed system.

Cheers,
Fabian
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Bug#388247: tasksel: strange entries in gnome-desktop

[Fabian Greffrath]

package: tasksel
version: 2.54
severity: minor

Hi!

In the 'gnome-desktop' task in 'tasksel/tasks' there is a line which
explains that gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly should
be installed to "allow totem to play more formats". 

As far as I can see, totem-gstreamer is not installed. What gets
installed is totem-mozilla, which depends on totem, which depends on
either totem-xine or totem-gestreamer with the xine frontend being first
choice. Same for the dependencies of the gnome-desktop-environment
meta-package.

With totem-xine installed there is no need for the additional
gstreamer-plugins. If you want to install the totem-gstreamer package
instead, it should be installed explicitely and not via the
totem-mozilla or the gnome-desktop-environment dependencies.

However, if totem-gstreamer is the one you want to install, there is no
need for the libtheora0 package ("allow totem to play theora files" two
lines above), as this is automatically installed via totem-gstreamer's
dependencies on gstreamer0.10-base. For totem-xine it is not needed at
all.

Thanks for your efford!

Nice Greetings,
Fabian
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