Re: [Pkg-bluetooth-maintainers] Bug#448553: bluez-utils should not recommend bluez-gnome

2008-04-13 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
[tasksel maintainer CCed]

On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 02:03:33AM +0200, Luca Brivio wrote:
 Package: bluez-utils
 Version: 3.13-1
 Severity: normal
 
 --- Please enter the report below this line. ---
 
 'bluetooth' is installed by the 'laptop' task and depends on 'bluez-utils', 
 so 
 the latter should not recommend 'bluez-gnome'. (not all the usual 
 installations with the 'laptop' task should require tens of GNOME-related 
 packages).

I am not sure how to fix this, given that recommends are automatically 
installed.
A proposal:

bluez-utils:
suggests: bluez-firmare, bluez-audio, bluez-gnome

bluetooth:
depends: bluez-utils
recommends: bluez-audio, bluez-gnome

with the rationale that installing bluetooth the user is expected to get more
than from bluez-utils.
This however would not solve OP's bug, thus I'm asking for some ideas.

thanks,
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Re: [Pkg-bluetooth-maintainers] Bug#448553: bluez-utils should not recommend bluez-gnome

2008-04-13 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 05:03:13PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Sunday 13 April 2008, Filippo Giunchedi wrote:
   'bluetooth' is installed by the 'laptop' task and depends on
   'bluez-utils', so the latter should not recommend 'bluez-gnome'. (not
   all the usual installations with the 'laptop' task should require tens
   of GNOME-related packages).
 
  I am not sure how to fix this, given that recommends are automatically
  installed. A proposal:
 
 However, at the moment Recommends are _not_ installed automatically by 
 Debian Installer when installing tasks. This is basically because it would 
 result in tons of additional packages getting installed, most of which 
 users have no use for.
 So this problem is currently limited to users installing bluetooth manually 
 and, which is the real problem IMO, situations where bluetooth gets pulled 
 in automatically by other packages (e.g. a KDE lib that depends on it).

Ack, thanks.

 The Debian Policy manual defines Recommends as:
  This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency. 
  The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together with
  this one in all but unusual installations.
 
 As bluetooth is a generic stack and thus useful on all systems that support 
 it, and bluez-gnome is GNOME specific and GNOME is only one desktop option 
 of many, it should be clear that bluetooth recommends bluez-gnome does 
 not fit the definition of Recommends: they will often *not* be found 

Agreed, so:

bluetooth
Depends: bluez-utils

bluez-utils
Suggests: bluez-gnome | kdebluetooth, bluez-firmware

 together. I'm not sure of bluez-audio as I've no idea what it does, but I 
 suspect the same to be true there.

It provides the ability to use and interact with audio-capable devices such as
headsets, I am more inclined to leave that as recommends since it is part of
bluez and packaged separately only for convenience.

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Re: [Utnubu-discuss] dmraid initramfs integration patch

2006-03-23 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 07:59:13PM -0500, Phillip Susi wrote:
 Heh, would help if I actually attached the debdiff.  I guess that's what 
 happens when you fire off email with one eye open in the wee hours of 
 the morning.

hehe, thanks for the patch, unfortunately I'm not going to have some free time
anytime soon to look at it :( perhaps some people in debian-boot are interested
in integrating this into d-i

thanks for your work,
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Bug#231073: install report on an amd k6/2 350mhz

2004-02-04 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: 03-02-2004 i386 netinst
uname -a: not available, 2.4.22-1-386 installed
Date: Wed Feb  4 00:08:06 CET 2004  
Method: boot from cdrom 

Machine: custom PC 
Processor: amd k6/2 350mhz 
Memory: 256mb 
Root Device: hda: wester digital 4,2gb
Root Size/partition table: hda2 1gb 
Output of lspci: not available but i saved /var/log/debian-installer/

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O] 
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O] 
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[E] see below
Reboot: [O] 
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

all went fine, none of the udebs failed and the priority didn't get lowered,
which is good.

however, grub-installer did NOT ask me if I want to install the boot loader,
overwriting mine, which is NOT good. To me, this is not the good default
behaviour for the general user. at least asking would be good (okay, for the
random user this might be confusing, then defaulting to yes should be ok). I
know this issue has already been raised, anyhow at least a backup of the MBR
should be done and document it somewhere.

thanks for the great debian-installer!

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Bug#229772: install report on powerbook 12

2004-01-26 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: 25-01-2004 powerpc netinst sid_d-i iso from gluck  
uname -a: not available, sorry 
Date: Fri Jan 26 19:35:42 CET 2004
Method: boot from cdrom,

Machine: recent Apple Powerbook 12 (bought nov03)
Processor: g4 1ghz 
Memory: 512mb
Root Device: 60gb disk 
Root Size/partition table: hda11 9gb 
Output of lspci: not available 

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[E] see below
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O] 
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [E] see below
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[E] see below
Reboot: [ ] 
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

boot from cd works ok (and closes #226447) but main-menu comes up with a red
background for normal questions and blue background for warnings!

switching to console 4 shows tail unable to find /var/log/syslog (and in fact
syslogd didn't started!), manually starting syslogd from console 2 still doesn't
create /var/log/syslog (there's only /var/log/messages)

eth0 switching to forced 10bt is printed at regular intervals in the current
console (apart from 1) and it changes from 10bt to 100bt and back again to
10bt and so on
 
I previously had to shrink my hfs+ partition with a patched parted (see #226115)
and then I partitioned the free space with d-i but had to reboot to see newly
created partitions.

d-i installed base into /target and then happily prompt it hadn't installed a
boot loader, after it asked for reboot.

please contact me if you need other informations! I'll keep on testing sid_d-i
isos on this powerbook and thanks for the great debian-installer!

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Bug#229570: kernel-installer: doesn't identify pentium mobile processors

2004-01-25 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
Package: kernel-installer
Severity: normal
Tags: patch

Hi,
as per subject kernel-installer doesn't recognize pentium mobile processors
(centrino) and defaults to -386, i'm not sure but it should use -686 instead,
here is the relevant patch. please be aware of possibily (b|d)ashism in case


--- tools/base-installer/debian/postinst.orig   Sat Jan 24 18:41:54 2004
+++ tools/base-installer/debian/postinstSat Jan 24 18:48:53 2004
@@ -182,7 +182,7 @@
CPUS=1
fi
case $MODEL in 
-Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4*)
+Intel(R) Pentium(R) [4M]*)
if test $CPUS -eq 1; then
trykernel=kernel-image-$version-686
else


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Bug#229347: install report on acer aspire 2000

2004-01-24 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: today's 23-01-2004 i386 businesscard
http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/sid_d-i/netinst/i386/daily/sarge-netinst-businesscard.iso
 
uname -a: not available, sorry 
Date: Fri Jan 23 19:35:42 CET 2004
Method: boot from cdrom, used ftp2.it.debian.org as a mirror, no proxy 

Machine: Acer Aspire 2000
Processor: intel centrino 1,6 ghz
Memory: 512mb
Root Device: hda: IC25N060ATMR04-0, ATA DISK drive 
Root Size/partition table: hda2 10gb 
Output of lspci: not available but i saved /var/log/debian-installer/

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [E] see below
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [ ] 
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[E] see below
Reboot: [ ] 
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

boot went fine until probing for floppy.o (which doesn't exists in businesscard)
and detection of hardware can't complete giving a fatal error

Jan 23 16:52:36 (none) user.notice hw-detect: Detected module 'floppy' for
'Linux Floppy'
Jan 23 16:52:36 (none) user.notice hw-detect: Trying to load module 'floppy'
Jan 23 16:52:36 (none) syslog.info klogd: inserting floppy driver for
2.4.22-1-386
Jan 23 16:52:36 (none) syslog.err klogd: devfs_mk_dir(floppy): using old entry
in dir: dffe 9690 
Jan 23 16:52:39 (none) syslog.warn klogd: floppy0: no floppy controllers found

other hardware detected successfully.
while retrying hw-detect I got this:

Jan 23 17:22:36 (none) user.notice hw-detect: Starting PCMCIA services: cardmgr
is already runni ng.
Jan 23 17:22:36 (none) user.notice hw-detect: done.
Jan 23 17:22:41 (none) user.notice hw-detect: Missing modules 'ide-scsi (Linux
IDE-SCSI emulatio n layer)
Jan 23 17:22:44 (none) user.info main-menu[229]: (process:25556): umount:  
Jan 23 17:22:44 (none) user.info main-menu[229]: (process:25556): /target/proc 

and /target/proc became not umountable, which is just weird because apt-install
tries to umount it and fails (thus failing kernel-installer and
{grub|lilo}-installer)

thanks for the great debian-installer!

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Re: Bug#227055: Debian Installer failure on 15 PowerBook G4

2004-01-12 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
Hi Barry,

On Sat, Jan 10, 2004 at 12:39:23PM -0500, Barry Hawkins wrote:
 Package: installation-reports
 Version: Debian Installer Sarge Business Card daily build, see below
 
 INSTALL REPORT
 
 Debian-installer-version: January 09, 2004 daily of 
 sarge-powerpc-businesscard.iso at
   
 http://people.debian.org/~manty/testing/netinst/powerpc/daily/
 uname -a: Not available; install will not complete
 Date: January 10, 2004 11:30
 Method: Used boot cd:,install\powermac\yaboot at OpenFirmware prompt; 
 cd will not boot

this issue with newer powerbooks (I suppose so, Aluminium suggests it) is more
or less known, see #226447. In fact I have the same problem with my powerbook
12 aluminum

[snip]
 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of exim4:
 ...
 Setting up tasksel (140) ...
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  libopencdk8
  libgnutls7
  exim4-daemon-light
  mailx
  at
  exim4
 /usr/sbin/debootstrap: 1: sleep: not found

also this problem is known, please see #226105 and debian-boot archives
regarding this bug

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Bug#226447: updated ofboot.b (Was: sarge-powerpc-netinst.iso not bootable)

2004-01-06 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
Package: debian-installer
Version: unavailable; reported 2004-01-06
Tags: patch

doing some investigation about this issue (not a cd problem) I tried to substitute
ofboot.b with an example from the latest yaboot in doc/examples/simpleboot.chrp
(attaching the file I used ) and rebuild the iso and it works! Said that, the
ofboot.b relevant section seems to be compatible or even os-badge-icon.
Probably my powerbook has a recent OF version (bought one month ago, powerbook
g4 1ghz) and it doesn't recognize the cd as bootable with the old ofboot.b.
Perhaps it should be changed so newer powerbooks can boot, I didn't tested it
with older macs but it should work.

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sarge-powerpc-netinst.iso not bootable

2004-01-04 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
Hi!
first thanks for d-i, it's really great!
As of Jan 01 
http://people.debian.org/~manty/testing/netinst/powerpc/daily/sarge-powerpc-netinst.iso 
is not bootable on my powerbook 12, holding 'c' while booting simply does nothing 
and it boots osX as usual.
Is it possibile to include also the daily build log to see if something goes wrong? 
looking at build/make/arch/linux-powerpc the cd_image target seems ok

kind regards,
filippo
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Bug#220182: netcfg: Please re-order the TCP/IP configuration questions

2003-11-11 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 09:44:48AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote:
 Package: netcfg
 Severity: wishlist
 Tags: d-i
 
 The current order is not really natural :
 
 I suggest using the following order:
 
 -IP address
 -Netmask
 -Gateway
 -Machine name
 -Domain name
 -DNS servers

ip address, netmask, gw and dns (perhaps even domain?) can be obtained via dhcp, if
available, this leaves out only machine name thus:

-IP address
-Netmask [guessed from ip address]
-Gateway [guessed from previous answers]
-DNS servers
-Machine name
-Domain name

sounds sensible to me

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Re: explicit image classification in INSTALLER-HOWTO

2003-11-09 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 03:55:58PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
 Filippo Giunchedi wrote:
  first of all thanks for the great work with d-i, it is really cool!  after
  playing around with some images I found netinst confusing, I thought it was
  full networked installation (d-i included) but that is netboot! Attached
  there is a patch for three types of images (maybe there are more?)
 
 Your patch is against section 2, but section 3 is what explains what
 files to use for different types of installations. There is no section
 about netboot, because nooone has written one.

Difference between netinst and businesscard is indeed explained in section 2.1,
in section 3 I can't find anything related to explanation of different image
favours. My point was only to do a more explicit image classification

there's a typo at line 81 in INSTALLATION-HOWTO:

81c81
 Debian. You need the bootfloppy-image.ing, the floppy-image.img and
---
 Debian. You need the bootfloppy-image.img, the floppy-image.img and


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Re: sarge-install onto Thinkpad

2003-11-09 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 09:43:22PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 02:12:07PM -0600, Bibek Sahu wrote:
  Is there anything special I need to know about using XFS, or using XFS for
  boot?
 
 I would certainly be interested in discussing XFS support for d-i with
 anyone willing to help work on it.  I might be persuaded to put together
 maintained kernel images using the XFS patch, if there was enough
 overall interest to support a full d-i build and make the effort
 worthwhile.

I am interested in seen XFS support added to d-i and in helping to get it added.

please let me know,
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explicit image classification in INSTALLER-HOWTO

2003-11-08 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
hi!
first of all thanks for the great work with d-i, it is really cool!  after
playing around with some images I found netinst confusing, I thought it was
full networked installation (d-i included) but that is netboot! Attached
there is a patch for three types of images (maybe there are more?)

thanks,
filippo


Index: doc/INSTALLATION-HOWTO
===
RCS file: /cvs/debian-boot/debian-installer/doc/INSTALLATION-HOWTO,v
retrieving revision 1.18
diff -u -r1.18 INSTALLATION-HOWTO
--- doc/INSTALLATION-HOWTO  6 Nov 2003 19:09:07 -   1.18
+++ doc/INSTALLATION-HOWTO  8 Nov 2003 19:36:30 -
@@ -37,6 +37,15 @@
 The installer team provides different types of images for the
 debian-installer. None of these images are yet available on Debian mirrors,
 but there are a few semi-official places to get different kinds of images.
+There are different types of images, one for each different installation
+flavour:
+
+netinst:  contains d-i plus core packages to have a base system
+businesscard: contains d-i but core packages are retrieved directly from
+  network
+netboot:  contains only essential d-i modules to get the network up and
+  running, everything else (d-i modules and core packages) will
+  be retrieved from network
 
 The debian-cd team provides known working builds of CD images for
 debian-installer here: http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/
@@ -75,7 +84,7 @@
 2.2 The dreaded floppies
 
 If you can't boot from CD, you can download floppy images to install
-Debian. You need the bootfloppy-image.ing, the floppy-image.img and
+Debian. You need the bootfloppy-image.img, the floppy-image.img and
 possibly one of the driver disks.
 
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Re: another vmware install report (100% success)

2003-11-07 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 02:35:41AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
 Debian-installer-version: sarge netinst iso from the 4th
 
 Machine: ye olde vmware
 Memory: 96 mb
 Root Device: 310 mb pseudo-ide
 
 Base System Installation Checklist:
 
 Initial boot worked:[O]
 Configure network HW:   [O]
 Config network: [O]

are you using vmware-dhcpd or static network? i can't make dhcpd working and i'm
trying to understand why

thanks,
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Bug#211032: choose-mirror: add optional netselect support to choose-mirror?

2003-09-15 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
Package: choose-mirror
Version: N/A; reported 2003-09-15
Severity: wishlist

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When testing d-i I was wondering to add a question like would you like
to probe for the fastest mirror instead of country selection (or search
within the current locale country or a country of choice). This can be
accomplished with netselect, OTOH it can be tricky to include a full
copy of netselect source inside choose-mirror or making a library is
definitely overkill.
this is just a thought, please let me know any ideas

filippo.

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should udebs report (udeb) in their short descriptions?

2003-09-15 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
hi debian-boot,
while testing d-i I've noticed that a few packages[1] have (udeb) in their short
descriptions and this is obviously also shown when anna asks for installer
modules.
When seeing the modules list this looks like a repetition and is useless.
perhaps having For use with Debian-Installer in long description sounds like a
solution to me.

regards,
filippo


[1]
Package: directfb-udeb
Description: frame buffer graphics library (udeb)

Package: discover-udeb
Description: hardware identification library (udeb)

Package: raidtools2-udeb
Description: Utilities to support 'new-style' RAID disks (udeb)

Package: ttf-freefont-udeb
Description: Freefont Serif, Sans and Mono Truetype fonts (udeb)

Package: zlib1g-udeb
Description: compression library - runtime (udeb)

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Italian .po files for current d-i cvs

2002-10-28 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
hi!
i've translated .po files in debian-installer cvs to italian, unified diff is
available for download on http://debian.esaurito.net/d-i.it.po.diff.gz
Waiting for suggestions/corrections (and complains, of course!)

I hope this will be useful.

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mark cvs commits as read with procmail and maildir

2002-10-23 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
hi!
just to know because is non-trivial to mark a maildir message as read with
procmail, i use this to mark cvs commits in debian-boot as read.

procmailrc
# trick to mark cvs commits from debian-boot ML as read
:0
* X-Mailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
{
# first deliver to maildir so LASTFOLDER gets set'd
:0 c
debian-boot/

# then move it to cur/
:0 ai
* ^Subject: cvs commit to debian-installer.*
* LASTFOLDER ?? ()\/[^/]+^^
|mv $LASTFOLDER debian-boot/cur/$MATCH:2,S
}
/procmailrc

i got the idea from:
http://www.rosat.mpe-garching.mpg.de/mailing-lists/procmail/2000-10/msg00262.html

cheers,
filippo.
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