Re: using LS120 floppies as USB stick
Geert Stappers wrote: Previous on Debian bugreport #283279: On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 02:46:14AM +0100, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: Geert Stappers wrote: About capacity of floppies: What fits on a LS120 diskette? Could it hold a kernel and the initrd? Aha, well, that will fit easily... way easily... A LS120 drive isn't called an LS120 drive for fun ( :p )... It can take 120MB of data. But these disks are fairly hard to come by these days... I don't have any myself, I just use it as a plain floppy drive, it saves cabling and the likes... But the base IDE code is already included in the current kernels right? so only the ATAPI floppy code would need to be added (and some relatively minor script changes)... For a 2.6.8 kernel the ide-floppy.ko module takes about 19507 bytes of disk space? Do we have that much left on the normal floppy images? Pascal, Where you are asking others to do some coding, what about to test the boot.img.gz from http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/ on a LS120 disk? Just one issue, I don't have any LS120 disks... :*( I've tried to get some before, but in vain... But indeed, theoretically those images _should_ work. Regards, Pascal de Bruijn PS: Maybe I should just invest 8 euros in a plain ol' floppy drive :s That will help one man, you could be helping mankind. Cheers Geert Stappers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#283279: Package: installation-reports
Package: installation-reports Debian-installer-version: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/rc2/sarge-i386-netinst.iso uname -a: 2.4.27-1-386 Date: 27 Nov 2004 Method: ARMD-Floppy install Machine: ASRock A7VM2 Processor: AMD Athlon XP 2200+ Memory: 256MB 266mhz DDR (Infineon) Root Device: Root Size/partition table: Output of lspci and lspci -n: Base System Installation Checklist: [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Initial boot worked:[E] Configure network HW: [ ] Config network: [ ] Detect CD: [ ] Load installer modules: [ ] Detect hard drives: [ ] Partition hard drives: [ ] Create file systems:[ ] Mount partitions: [ ] Install base system:[ ] Install boot loader:[ ] Reboot: [ ] Comments/Problems: I have a LS120 ATAPI floppydrive connected as a Primary Slave. When I use a (normal 1.44MB) floppy to boot from, my install gets stuck here: Insert the root floppy or plug in a USB storage device. Press Enter when ready, or type a command: I can press enter all I want, nothing happens! Regards, Pascal de Bruijn PS: If this bug gets resolved, please let me know, I'll do a test run :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#283279: Package: installation-reports
Geert Stappers wrote: On Sat, Nov 27, 2004 at 09:05:30PM +0100, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: Package: installation-reports Debian-installer-version: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/rc2/sarge-i386-netinst.iso ^^ that is CD-rom. Ok sorry my mistake! I took the floppy images off that ISO, from in /install/floppies directory. uname -a: 2.4.27-1-386 Date: 27 Nov 2004 Method: ARMD-Floppy install Machine: ASRock A7VM2 Processor: AMD Athlon XP 2200+ Memory: 256MB 266mhz DDR (Infineon) Root Device: Root Size/partition table: Output of lspci and lspci -n: Base System Installation Checklist: [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Initial boot worked:[E] Configure network HW: [ ] Config network: [ ] Detect CD: [ ] Load installer modules: [ ] Detect hard drives: [ ] Partition hard drives: [ ] Create file systems:[ ] Mount partitions: [ ] Install base system:[ ] Install boot loader:[ ] Reboot: [ ] Comments/Problems: I have a LS120 ATAPI floppydrive connected as a Primary Slave. When I use a (normal 1.44MB) floppy to boot from, my install gets stuck here: Here you use a floppy (not the CD rom) Why the sudden switch for CD to floppy? (please tell the whole story) See the above, I really did use the floppy, I took the floppy images off the iso. Insert the root floppy or plug in a USB storage device. Press Enter when ready, or type a command: I can press enter all I want, nothing happens! Tell us more about you computer. (Has it an USB keyboard?) It's an ASRock A7VM2 motherboard with an AMD Athlon XP 2200+ processor. I'm still using the good old PS/2 for keyboard support. No mouse connected. I have a 40GB 5400rpm Seagate drive attached to my motherboards Primary ATA133 channel as Master. The LS120 ATAPI Floppy drive is attached to my motherobards Primary ATA133 channel as Slave. I don't have a lspci from the machine, but all of the chipsets on it are Via or Via related (like S3 Savage for the videocard). I know I've got a Via-Rhine as NIC, i'm not sure which revision until I get debian installed. The machine does have a Via USB 2.0 chipset, providing an ehci and uhci. Regards, Pascal de Bruijn PS: If this bug gets resolved, please let me know, I'll do a test run :) It will also take some effort from you, to get it resolved 8^) To be honest I think the problem is reasonably simple (though i'm no expert), the installer searches /dev/fd0 and /dev/sda (usb-storage) (maybe /dev/sdb and so on) for the root disk, right? we just need to add /dev/hdb or /dev/hdb1 to that, problem is, it depends on which ata channel the atapi floppy is connected what it's device designation is. Also the kernel needs ATAPI floppy support compiled into it, or the modules needs to be on the ramdisk for this to work at all. I'm not sure if that currently is the case! Geert Stappers Please note, I'm not a rocket scientist, these are just my two pennies worth... Maybe I'm totally wrong... Maybe not. I hope to hear from you soon, Regards, Pascal de Bruijn PS: Thanks for the fast response! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#283279: ramdisk at ide-floppy
Geert Stappers wrote: On Sat, Nov 27, 2004 at 10:06:38PM +0100, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: Geert Stappers wrote: On Sat, Nov 27, 2004 at 09:05:30PM +0100, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: Debian-installer-version: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/rc2/sarge-i386-netinst.iso ^^ that is CD-rom. Ok sorry my mistake! I took the floppy images off that ISO, from in /install/floppies directory. [even initial boot fails] Comments/Problems: I have a LS120 ATAPI floppydrive connected as a Primary Slave. When I use a (normal 1.44MB) floppy to boot from, my install gets stuck here: Here you use a floppy (not the CD rom) Why the sudden switch for CD to floppy? (please tell the whole story) See the above, I really did use the floppy, I took the floppy images off the iso. The above 'sorry' is accepted :-) Insert the root floppy or plug in a USB storage device. Press Enter when ready, or type a command: I can press enter all I want, nothing happens! Tell us more about you computer. (Has it an USB keyboard?) It's an ASRock A7VM2 motherboard with an AMD Athlon XP 2200+ processor. I'm still using the good old PS/2 for keyboard support. No mouse connected. I have a 40GB 5400rpm Seagate drive attached to my motherboards Primary ATA133 channel as Master. The LS120 ATAPI Floppy drive is attached to my motherobards Primary ATA133 channel as Slave. I don't have a lspci from the machine, but all of the chipsets on it are Via or Via related (like S3 Savage for the videocard). I know I've got a Via-Rhine as NIC, i'm not sure which revision until I get debian installed. The machine does have a Via USB 2.0 chipset, providing an ehci and uhci. Regards, Pascal de Bruijn PS: If this bug gets resolved, please let me know, I'll do a test run :) It will also take some effort from you, to get it resolved 8^) To be honest I think the problem is reasonably simple (though i'm no expert), the installer searches /dev/fd0 and /dev/sda (usb-storage) (maybe /dev/sdb and so on) for the root disk, right? we just need to add /dev/hdb or /dev/hdb1 to that, problem is, it depends on which ata channel the atapi floppy is connected what it's device designation is. Also the kernel needs ATAPI floppy support compiled into it, or the modules needs to be on the ramdisk for this to work at all. I'm not sure if that currently is the case! Geert Stappers Please note, I'm not a rocket scientist, these are just my two pennies worth... Maybe I'm totally wrong... Maybe not. I hope to hear from you soon, I think you are too humble :D Your analyzis makes sense. But I doubt that is can be fixed that way. I see problems in the size of a kernel with IDE code, as it has to fit on a 1.44Mb floppy (2.88Mb??) About capacity of floppies: What fits on a LS120 diskette? Could it hold a kernel and the initrd? Cheers Geert Stappers Aha, well, that will fit easily... way easily... A LS120 drive isn't called an LS120 drive for fun ( :p )... It can take 120MB of data. But these disks are fairly hard to come by these days... I don't have any myself, I just use it as a plain floppy drive, it saves cabling and the likes... But the base IDE code is already included in the current kernels right? so only the ATAPI floppy code would need to be added (and some relatively minor script changes)... I have no clue, how much code/data that would be. ( Don't have any installed systems handy right now. ) Regards, Pascal de Bruijn PS: Maybe I should just invest 8 euros in a plain ol' floppy drive :s -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
