Re: [G-I] progress in theming

2006-03-22 Thread Denis Barbier
On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 11:05:49PM +0100, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
[...]
> By the way, are we going to package our two GTK themes into rootskel-gtk 
> or into a new udeb?
> Note that gnome-accessibility-themes includes many themes and we need 
> only one of theme, moreover stripped by unneded PNGs to save up space

IMHO putting themes into rootskel-gtk is the easiest solution.

Denis


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Re: [G-I] progress in theming

2006-03-22 Thread Attilio Fiandrotti

Davide Viti wrote:

On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 10:15:54PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote:


My rationale is very simple: if the default theme has a bright
background, the alternate theme should have a dark one.  If the
default theme had a dark background, I would vote for the
HighContrastLarge theme.
In fact, one can imagine that font size can be selected at boot
time (maybe this is already the case, I did not check).  But
this is hardly true for colors, they need to be predefined, which
is why different choices must be provided.  Or an alternative
could also be to have a "reverse video" option.



that makes alot of sense.
As for the possibility of selecting fontsize we're not able to do it yet;
actually we don't really know which fonts we will use yet :)


even if we currently don't allow the user to set font-size at runtime, 
this won't be difficult to implement with some shell code .
By the way, are we going to package our two GTK themes into rootskel-gtk 
or into a new udeb?
Note that gnome-accessibility-themes includes many themes and we need 
only one of theme, moreover stripped by unneded PNGs to save up space


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/gtkdfb/gtk+$ du -s /usr/share/themes/HighContrast*
28  /usr/share/themes/HighContrast
28  /usr/share/themes/HighContrastInverse
600 /usr/share/themes/HighContrastLargePrint
592 /usr/share/themes/HighContrastLargePrintInverse


friendly

Attilio


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Re: [G-I] progress in theming

2006-03-22 Thread Davide Viti
On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 10:15:54PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote:
> My rationale is very simple: if the default theme has a bright
> background, the alternate theme should have a dark one.  If the
> default theme had a dark background, I would vote for the
> HighContrastLarge theme.
> In fact, one can imagine that font size can be selected at boot
> time (maybe this is already the case, I did not check).  But
> this is hardly true for colors, they need to be predefined, which
> is why different choices must be provided.  Or an alternative
> could also be to have a "reverse video" option.

that makes alot of sense.
As for the possibility of selecting fontsize we're not able to do it yet;
actually we don't really know which fonts we will use yet :)

ciao
Davide


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Re: [G-I] progress in theming

2006-03-22 Thread Denis Barbier
On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 11:09:48AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Luca Bruno wrote:
> > Now, I'd like to work on "visual-impaired" theme.
> > Attilio suggested me to work on HighContrastLargePrintInverse theme,
> > available in gnome-themes. 
> 
> I remember HighContrastLargePrintInverse adoption for visua impaired 
> people being suggested by Denis Barbier, but i cannot speak about this 
> as i know just very little abot accessibility.

My rationale is very simple: if the default theme has a bright
background, the alternate theme should have a dark one.  If the
default theme had a dark background, I would vote for the
HighContrastLarge theme.
In fact, one can imagine that font size can be selected at boot
time (maybe this is already the case, I did not check).  But
this is hardly true for colors, they need to be predefined, which
is why different choices must be provided.  Or an alternative
could also be to have a "reverse video" option.

Denis


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Re: [G-I] progress in theming

2006-03-22 Thread Luca Bruno
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scrisse:

> About the icons: we only need 4 or 5 icons, IIRC, and maybe a
> "camera" icon for the "screenshot" button would be useful.

As I told you in a previous mail, I will wait to see which icons are
used in the graphical partitioner before stripping superflous icons.
 
> Now, a question: how are we going to package GTK theme(s): into a 
> separate udeb or into rootskel-gtk?

Please note that accessibility themes are already packaged in
gnome-accessibility-themes. I've never made and udeb, but if needed I
can try to provide one for Bladr theme. Just say so :)

> friendly
> Attilio

Cheers, Luca

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Re: [G-I] progress in theming

2006-03-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Luca Bruno wrote:
> Hi,
> I've done some work in G-i theming.
> A first draft of "normal" theme is complete, and you can find it 
here:
> [1] http://luca.nipl.net/Bladr.tar.gz
> Anyway it won't work with current G-I build, as some
> libs are still missing. I checked it with an ad-hoc iso[1] and those
> are some screenshots:
> http://img498.imageshack.us/my.php?image=debianinstallermainmenu07bo.
png
> http://img492.imageshack.us/my.php?
image=languagechooserlanguagename04g.png
> http://img498.imageshack.us/my.php?image=netcfgconfirmstatic00jm.png
> http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=netcfggetipaddress03ox.png
> http://img492.imageshack.us/my.php?image=netcfgusedhcp19jb.png
> http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=netcfgusedhcp07rc.png
> 
> Any comments?

I definitely like this theme and i suggest to use it as "default" 
theme for the g-i: bruno, you did a nice work! :)
Note that the dark-gray question description/extended description are 
due to the fact that Bruno was using an old GTKDFB 2.8.10 ISO build 
prior to gtk.c revision 34383: this problem won't shouw up in more 
recent ISO images.
About the icons: we only need 4 or 5 icons, IIRC, and maybe a "camera" 
icon for the "screenshot" button would be useful.

> Now, I'd like to work on "visual-impaired" theme.
> Attilio suggested me to work on HighContrastLargePrintInverse theme,
> available in gnome-themes. 

I remember HighContrastLargePrintInverse adoption for visua impaired 
people being suggested by Denis Barbier, but i cannot speak about this 
as i know just very little abot accessibility.

Now, a question: how are we going to package GTK theme(s): into a 
separate udeb or into rootskel-gtk?

friendly

Attilio




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[G-I] progress in theming

2006-03-22 Thread Luca Bruno
Hi,
I've done some work in G-i theming.
A first draft of "normal" theme is complete, and you can find it here:
[1] http://luca.nipl.net/Bladr.tar.gz
Anyway it won't work with current G-I build, as some
libs are still missing. I checked it with an ad-hoc iso[1] and those
are some screenshots:
http://img498.imageshack.us/my.php?image=debianinstallermainmenu07bo.png
http://img492.imageshack.us/my.php?image=languagechooserlanguagename04g.png
http://img498.imageshack.us/my.php?image=netcfgconfirmstatic00jm.png
http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=netcfggetipaddress03ox.png
http://img492.imageshack.us/my.php?image=netcfgusedhcp19jb.png
http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=netcfgusedhcp07rc.png

Any comments?

Now, I'd like to work on "visual-impaired" theme.
Attilio suggested me to work on HighContrastLargePrintInverse theme,
available in gnome-themes. I've tried also HighContrastLargePrint.
I am not yet able to make screenshot of them in G-I, but I've tested
both in my desktop environment. I wear glasses sicne child because I've
problem viewing in long distances (miope), my view there is half than a
normal man, and I found that HighContrastLargePrint is more comfortable
to me. But in short distance I've no problem, so I don't know which of
these two themes is the best for "real" visual impaired people.
Please, can somebody (maybe more expert than me) test them both and make
some comments on this issue?

Cheers, Luca

[1] This server is really in a bad shape, can somebody mirror this file
somewhere else?
[2] https://debian.polito.it/downloads/mini_2.8.10-2_nazli.iso

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