Re: Bug#581683: Adding tag help for #581683 ([I18N, USABILITY] configure keyboard dialogs)

2010-11-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Anton Zinoviev, le Mon 08 Nov 2010 15:32:34 +0200, a écrit :
 On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 12:03:32PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
  I'm reluctant to just commit this and create an i18n firestorm of some
  kind, but this seems to be the source of the problem.  Christian,
  perhaps you could advise?
 
 I suppose you are right...  Not only the udeb is not translated but also 
 the main package (keyboard-configuration).  I haven't noticed this.
 
 I received a message from Samuel Thibault with a patch that fixes this 
 and reduces the i18n storm by using the translations from the old 
 version of console-setup.  I don't know why I don't see the his message 
 in the list (it was addressed to debian-boot@lists.debian.org, 
 console-se...@packages.debian.org).  I am attaching his patch here.

I don't understand either... Here it is again:

Subject: Missing translations of keyboard-configuration

Hello,

Sad news is that while splitting off keyboard-configuration from
console-setup, all the debconf templates translations got dropped.

Good news is that we still have the old version in svn.  Attached is a
patch which I believe will restore it properly without any work from
l10n teams: it was passed through l10n-sync. Below is the diffstat. The
removed lines are some backups what gettext kept in some of the files.

Is it OK to apply?

Samuel


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Re: Bug#581683: Adding tag help for #581683 ([I18N, USABILITY] configure keyboard dialogs)

2010-11-09 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Samuel Thibault (sthiba...@debian.org):

 
 Sad news is that while splitting off keyboard-configuration from
 console-setup, all the debconf templates translations got dropped.
 
 Good news is that we still have the old version in svn.  Attached is a
 patch which I believe will restore it properly without any work from
 l10n teams: it was passed through l10n-sync. Below is the diffstat. The
 removed lines are some backups what gettext kept in some of the files.
 
 Is it OK to apply?


As written earlier, I'd rather have these changes kept out of
packages/po currently and updates handled separately in
console-setup/debian/po.

I can do it the following way:

1) comment console-setup in packages/po/packages_list
  That will temporarily drop the package from the l10n-sync operations

2) apply your patch in a local copy of packages/po without committing
  this back to SVN

3) make the change in console-setup/debian/po/POTFILES.in (adding the
needed line)

4) run debconf-updatepo for c-s

5) merge PO files from my local copy in 3) to
console-setup/debian/po/*po

6) send a special call for translation updates in console-setup

Then, after the release of RC1, merge the content of c-s/debian/po/*po
back to packages/po and re-activate c-s in packages/po/packages_list

That will make my life considerably easier for tracking languages
missing completion for anything else than c-s.





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Re: Bug#581683: Adding tag help for #581683 ([I18N, USABILITY] configure keyboard dialogs)

2010-11-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Christian PERRIER, le Tue 09 Nov 2010 18:53:24 +0100, a écrit :
 That will make my life considerably easier for tracking languages
 missing completion for anything else than c-s.

Ok, please do.  That'll permit me continue working on propagating the
d-i debconf question from console-data to console-setup for #581683.

Samuel


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Re: Adding tag help for #581683 ([I18N, USABILITY] configure keyboard dialogs)

2010-11-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 04:24:41PM +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
 I am adding the tag help for this bug.  I don't understand the first 
 part of it (the missing translations).  I suppose the file 
 usr/share/console-setup-mini/kbdnames.gz was removed for some reason in 
 the installer image.

Isn't it just because po-debconf hasn't been told about many of the
untranslated strings?

Index: debian/po/POTFILES.in
===
--- debian/po/POTFILES.in   (revision 65340)
+++ debian/po/POTFILES.in   (working copy)
@@ -1 +1,2 @@
 [type: gettext/rfc822deb] console-setup.templates
+[type: gettext/rfc822deb] keyboard-configuration.templates

I'm reluctant to just commit this and create an i18n firestorm of some
kind, but this seems to be the source of the problem.  Christian,
perhaps you could advise?

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Re: Adding tag help for #581683 ([I18N, USABILITY] configure keyboard dialogs)

2010-11-08 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Colin Watson (cjwat...@debian.org):

 I'm reluctant to just commit this and create an i18n firestorm of some
 kind, but this seems to be the source of the problem.  Christian,
 perhaps you could advise?


Committing this will create a firestorm. Dozens of strings suddenly
untranslated to appear in D-I general PO files..:-(

I'd prefer handling this separately on my own.

So, what I propose is to temporarily unhook console-setup from
packages where PO files are managed in D-I general files (ie comment
it in packages/po/packages_list), then commit your change and then
issue a separate call for translation updates for c-s.

This way, I can continue tracking the completion of general PO files
without having things polluted by this sudden change to c-s
templates.




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Re: Adding tag help for #581683 ([I18N, USABILITY] configure keyboard dialogs)

2010-11-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

Anton Zinoviev, le Mon 13 Sep 2010 16:24:41 +0300, a écrit :
 The fix of the second part would require customized lists of keyboard 
 layouts and this is something I don't want to maintain.

I'm willing to take the time to patch and maintain this.  Now, just to
make sure: do we plan to keep the existing kbd-chooser and make it suite
to console-setup, or are we replacing it completely with console-setup?
AIUI, ATM the plan is the latter, right?

Samuel


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Re: Adding tag help for #581683 ([I18N, USABILITY] configure keyboard dialogs)

2010-11-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le Mon 01 Nov 2010 21:53:33 +0100, a écrit :
 Anton Zinoviev, le Mon 13 Sep 2010 16:24:41 +0300, a écrit :
  The fix of the second part would require customized lists of keyboard 
  layouts and this is something I don't want to maintain.
 
 I'm willing to take the time to patch and maintain this.  Now, just to
 make sure: do we plan to keep the existing kbd-chooser and make it suite
 to console-setup, or are we replacing it completely with console-setup?
 AIUI, ATM the plan is the latter, right?

Comments in the c-s code and reviewing the whole thread tell me it's
indeed the latter.  My current plan, since we're very late in the
release, would be to make c-s-udeb mimic kbd-chooser, as Christian
proposed, by using the same debian-installer-specific question,
re-using the existing translations of the keyboards, and feed the
installed-system debconf with the result.

Samuel


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Adding tag help for #581683 ([I18N, USABILITY] configure keyboard dialogs)

2010-09-13 Thread Anton Zinoviev
tags 581683 help
reassign 581683 console-setup-udeb
thank you

Hello,

I am adding the tag help for this bug.  I don't understand the first 
part of it (the missing translations).  I suppose the file 
usr/share/console-setup-mini/kbdnames.gz was removed for some reason in 
the installer image.

The fix of the second part would require customized lists of keyboard 
layouts and this is something I don't want to maintain.

Anton Zinoviev


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Processed: Adding tag help for #581683 ([I18N, USABILITY] configure keyboard dialogs)

2010-09-13 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:

 tags 581683 help
Bug #581683 [console-setup] [Graphical-install] [I18N, USABILITY] configure 
keyboard dialogs
Added tag(s) help.
 reassign 581683 console-setup-udeb
Bug #581683 [console-setup] [Graphical-install] [I18N, USABILITY] configure 
keyboard dialogs
Bug reassigned from package 'console-setup' to 'console-setup-udeb'.
 thank you
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