Re: Alpha Boot Floppies: new version
On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 03:25:05AM +0200, Falk Hueffner wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Selecting previously deselected package libc6.1. (Reading database ... 216 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking libc6.1 (from ../libc6.1_2.2.3-8_alpha.deb) ... Setting up libc6.1 (2.2.3-7) ... Current default timezone: 'UTC'. Local time is now: Tue Aug 14 20:07:43 UTC 2001. Universal time is now: Tue Aug 14 20:07:43 UTC 2001. Run 'tzconfig' if you wish to change it. Package 'sysvinit' is not installed and no info is available. Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files, and dpkg --conents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents. ... and that's all she wrote, hard hang at this point (for those who arrived late, this is on a Bret, aka AlphaStation 500/500). Perhaps it's trying to restart init then in a bad way. I'll retrieve the postinst and have a look later. I had this on ia64, hung when libc6 or sysinitv postinst tried to get init to reload inittab. The root cause was that I had forgotten to include root=/dev/ram in my boot options. It mounted the ramdisk ok (from initrd=), but then gets confused about whether process 1 is linuxrc or init (something like that anyway). So check you boot with root=/dev/ram. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Alpha Boot Floppies: new version
I have used the boot floppy images from ftp://134.2.15.134/boot-floppies/disks-alpha/ to attempt an install from scratch on a Bret (AlphaStation 500/500). The good news? bootp/tftp boot works great! In SRM, you need to select bootp via console variable ('set ewa0_protocol bootp' or something like that) rather than via a flag to the boot command ('boot -proto bootp ewa0' does not work, failing with Block FFF2 is not in any zone messages). The bad news? The installation hangs during/right after installing the libc6.1 package. It hangs so solid that the shell on the second virtual console will not respond. I even tried floppies rather than tftp and it stops in the same location. Is this a known problem? Also, when trying to write aboot to the disk, it looks like the installer is trying to swriteboot to the partition where the root filesystem is (/dev/sdan) rather than directly to /dev/sda . -Doug -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Alpha Boot Floppies: new version
Doug Larrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The good news? bootp/tftp boot works great! In SRM, you need to select bootp via console variable ('set ewa0_protocol bootp' or something like that) rather than via a flag to the boot command ('boot -proto bootp ewa0' does not work, failing with Block FFF2 is not in any zone messages). That's really good news. I couldn't get bootp to work, so I couldn't test it. There were some suspicious hacks in the previous version... The bad news? The installation hangs during/right after installing the libc6.1 package. It hangs so solid that the shell on the second virtual console will not respond. I even tried floppies rather than tftp and it stops in the same location. Is this a known problem? No. That's really weird; I have no idea what might cause this. I had no problems at that point. Did you download via http, or did you install from a mounted mirror? Also, when trying to write aboot to the disk, it looks like the installer is trying to swriteboot to the partition where the root filesystem is (/dev/sdan) rather than directly to /dev/sda . I noticed this too. If this is not just the message being wrong, this might even destroy data... I'll check it. Falk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Alpha Boot Floppies: new version
Quoting Falk Hueffner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That's really good news. I couldn't get bootp to work, so I couldn't test it. There were some suspicious hacks in the previous version... Bootp is a lot easier to get going using a dhcp server rather than a bootp server. Much better log messages. Or did you mean the SRM end? The bad news? The installation hangs during/right after installing the libc6.1 package. It hangs so solid that the shell on the second virtual console will not respond. I even tried floppies rather than tftp and it stops in the same location. Is this a known problem? No. That's really weird; I have no idea what might cause this. I had no problems at that point. Did you download via http, or did you install from a mounted mirror? Downloaded via http. If there's an easy way to make a local mirror of just the files needed for the base system I'd be willing to give that a try. -Doug -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Alpha Boot Floppies: new version
Doug Larrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Quoting Falk Hueffner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That's really good news. I couldn't get bootp to work, so I couldn't test it. There were some suspicious hacks in the previous version... Bootp is a lot easier to get going using a dhcp server rather than a bootp server. Much better log messages. Or did you mean the SRM end? Yes, I meant the SRM end. I couldn't get SRM tro transmit *anything* over ethernet (checked with tcpdump), regardless of the medium type setting. Perhaps this is because I had a crappy ISA card at the other end; they can communicate from Linux, though. The bad news? The installation hangs during/right after installing the libc6.1 package. It hangs so solid that the shell on the second virtual console will not respond. I even tried floppies rather than tftp and it stops in the same location. Is this a known problem? No. That's really weird; I have no idea what might cause this. I had no problems at that point. Did you download via http, or did you install from a mounted mirror? Downloaded via http. If there's an easy way to make a local mirror of just the files needed for the base system I'd be willing to give that a try. Anthony Towns just posted a method on debian-boot: /usr/sbin/debootstrap --download-only --arch alpha woody woody-alpha http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ (cd woody-alpha tar cf ../basedebs_3.0_alpha.tar *) rm -rf woody-alpha Falk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Alpha Boot Floppies: new version
Anthony Towns just posted a method on debian-boot [of making a basedebs.tgz file] OK, I gave this a try, same result; let me type in the end of console 4 (anything really odd is probably a typo): dpkg: warning - ignoring pre-depencency problem ! (Reading database... 77 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace dpkg 1.9.16 (using ../archives/dpkg_1.9.16_alpha.deb) ... Unpacking replacement dpkg ... dpkg: dpkg: dependency problems, but configuring anyway as you request: dpkg depends on libc6.1 (= 2.2.3-1); however: Package libc6.1 is not installed. dpkg depends on libncurses5 (= 5.2.20010310-1); however: Package libncurses5 is not installed. dpkg depends on libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2; however: Package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 is not installed. Setting up dpkg (1.9.16) ... Selecting previously deselected package libc6.1. (Reading database ... 216 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking libc6.1 (from ../libc6.1_2.2.3-8_alpha.deb) ... Setting up libc6.1 (2.2.3-7) ... Current default timezone: 'UTC'. Local time is now: Tue Aug 14 20:07:43 UTC 2001. Universal time is now: Tue Aug 14 20:07:43 UTC 2001. Run 'tzconfig' if you wish to change it. Package 'sysvinit' is not installed and no info is available. Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files, and dpkg --conents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents. ... and that's all she wrote, hard hang at this point (for those who arrived late, this is on a Bret, aka AlphaStation 500/500). -Doug -- Doug Larrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: DougLarick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Alpha Boot Floppies: new version
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anthony Towns just posted a method on debian-boot [of making a basedebs.tgz file] OK, I gave this a try, same result; let me type in the end of console 4 (anything really odd is probably a typo): dpkg: warning - ignoring pre-depencency problem ! (Reading database... 77 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace dpkg 1.9.16 (using ../archives/dpkg_1.9.16_alpha.deb) ... Unpacking replacement dpkg ... dpkg: dpkg: dependency problems, but configuring anyway as you request: dpkg depends on libc6.1 (= 2.2.3-1); however: Package libc6.1 is not installed. dpkg depends on libncurses5 (= 5.2.20010310-1); however: Package libncurses5 is not installed. dpkg depends on libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2; however: Package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 is not installed. Setting up dpkg (1.9.16) ... Selecting previously deselected package libc6.1. (Reading database ... 216 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking libc6.1 (from ../libc6.1_2.2.3-8_alpha.deb) ... Setting up libc6.1 (2.2.3-7) ... Current default timezone: 'UTC'. Local time is now: Tue Aug 14 20:07:43 UTC 2001. Universal time is now: Tue Aug 14 20:07:43 UTC 2001. Run 'tzconfig' if you wish to change it. Package 'sysvinit' is not installed and no info is available. Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files, and dpkg --conents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents. ... and that's all she wrote, hard hang at this point (for those who arrived late, this is on a Bret, aka AlphaStation 500/500). Perhaps it's trying to restart init then in a bad way. I'll retrieve the postinst and have a look later. Falk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Alpha Boot Floppies: new version
Falk Hueffner wrote: We could also need a tester for nautilus, since I have no idea about the current state. I have a nautilus to test on, but not much time; will try to test by end-of-week, after 3.0.10 is built. Zeen, -- -Adam P. GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe! http://lyre.mit.edu/%7Epowell/The_Best_Stuff_In_The_World_Today_Cafe.ogg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alpha Boot Floppies: new version
Hi, I've built new boot floppies from the current boot-floppies CVS and put them on ftp://134.2.15.134/boot-floppies/disks-alpha/. I think they are now in a state to be added to ftp.debian.org at the next boot-floppies release. I've used MILO 2.2-17 this time, since 2.2-18 was reported to be broken on at least two subarchitectures. Unfortunately, I have only my SX164 to test, so I'd appreciate any reports. I have not yet tested the complete installation on my machine, since I have pppoe for internet access which isn't supported. make release now works fine except for two things: * You need the srmbootfat tool from the MILO source. In the long run, this could be provided by a MILO deb package. Currently, we could either require it to be locally installed, or I could add it to the CVS. It's two files of 12k (GPL). If this is considered a good idea, I'd like to create an alpha-specials dir. Any opinions? * Downloading via apt-get still doesn't work because of dependency problems. Could I perhaps just commit the fake-get hack which uses wget instead and activate it for Alpha? Even if we fiddle with the packages, this problem can always reappear. Hmm, that's it for now :) Next thing will be to fix netboot. We could also need a tester for nautilus, since I have no idea about the current state. Falk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]