Bug#1002976: installation-reports: Installer Does Not Provide Screen Reader in Accessible Installation

2022-01-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le mar. 18 janv. 2022 03:28:07 -0500, a ecrit:
> No, because the installer still might be selecting the wrong sound card, it's
> usually the second choice, so even without sound I press enter to at least
> choose something.

Ah right. You can check what you ended up selecting with

cat /var/run/espeakup.card

Samuel



Bug#1002976: installation-reports: Installer Does Not Provide Screen Reader in Accessible Installation

2022-01-18 Thread D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
No, because the installer still might be selecting the wrong sound card,
it's usually the second choice, so even without sound I press enter to at
least choose something.

How can I chose the sound card, I'll chose them one by one and try.

David


On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 03:21 Samuel Thibault  wrote:

> D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le lun. 17 janv. 2022 22:01:59 -0500, a ecrit:
> > Using firmware-10.11.0-amd64 installer, I gave this command:
> >
> > amixer -c 0 set IEC958,0 off
> >
> > I didn't get a response because my sound cards were renumbered.
>
> Ah, yes, sure.
>
> > So I changed the command to:
> > amixer -c 1 set IEC958,0 off
> >
> > This is the response I received.
> >
> > Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0
> >   Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
> >   Playback channels: Mono
> >   Mono: Playback [off]
>
> And that didn't make espeakup start speaking?
>
> Samuel
>


Bug#1002976: installation-reports: Installer Does Not Provide Screen Reader in Accessible Installation

2022-01-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le lun. 17 janv. 2022 22:01:59 -0500, a ecrit:
> Using firmware-10.11.0-amd64 installer, I gave this command:
> 
> amixer -c 0 set IEC958,0 off
> 
> I didn't get a response because my sound cards were renumbered.

Ah, yes, sure.

> So I changed the command to:
> amixer -c 1 set IEC958,0 off
> 
> This is the response I received.
> 
> Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0
>   Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
>   Playback channels: Mono
>   Mono: Playback [off]

And that didn't make espeakup start speaking?

Samuel



Bug#1002976: installation-reports: Installer Does Not Provide Screen Reader in Accessible Installation

2022-01-17 Thread D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 4:55 AM Samuel Thibault 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Thanks for the information.
>
> D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le dim. 16 janv. 2022 22:12:29 -0500, a ecrit:
> > I already noticed something, in Buster, my digital card isn't listed
> > with the cat /proc/asound/cards command.
>
> Yes, that's because in the bullseye case you have used the mini.iso. As
> I wrote, please rather use the netinst bullseye iso image. The mini.iso
> image was only to check whether the presence of the i915 driver would
> help.
>
> > ## Output of amixer -c 0 scontents and amixer -c 1 scontents for the
> Bullseys
> > mini_amixer1contents
> >
> >
> > ## Output of amixer -c 0 scontents  amixer -c 1 scontents and amixer -c 1
> > 10.11.0_amixer1contents
>
> One thing I notice is this:
>
> Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0
>   Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
>   Playback channels: Mono
>   Mono: Playback [off]
>
> It's off in the Buster case and on in the Bullseye case. I guess you are
> not using the IEC958 output.
>
> Could you try running this inside the bullseye installer:
>
> amixer -c 0 sset IEC958,0 off
>
> samuel
>

Hello Samuel,

I'm trying to be very careful to do whatever you tell me, but I will
probably make a mistake, but not on purpose, just because I misunderstood.

Here's what I did.

Using firmware-10.11.0-amd64 installer, I gave this command:

amixer -c 0 set IEC958,0 off

I didn't get a response because my sound cards were renumbered.

So I changed the command to:
amixer -c 1 set IEC958,0 off

This is the response I received.

Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [off]

About the firmware error, it's right after language selection saying that
some of my hardware requires firmware and that I should insert a disk with
firmware on it.   That looks normal to me.

While my computer has a digital sound output, I don't use it, I use the
small speaker 3.5mm TRS (tip, ring, sleeve) plug like music players use to
go to an amplified speaker.

Regards,
David


Bug#1002976: installation-reports: Installer Does Not Provide Screen Reader in Accessible Installation

2022-01-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

Thanks for the information.

D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le dim. 16 janv. 2022 22:12:29 -0500, a ecrit:
> I already noticed something, in Buster, my digital card isn't listed
> with the cat /proc/asound/cards command.

Yes, that's because in the bullseye case you have used the mini.iso. As
I wrote, please rather use the netinst bullseye iso image. The mini.iso
image was only to check whether the presence of the i915 driver would
help.

> ## Output of amixer -c 0 scontents and amixer -c 1 scontents for the Bullseys
> mini_amixer1contents
> 
> 
> ## Output of amixer -c 0 scontents  amixer -c 1 scontents and amixer -c 1
> 10.11.0_amixer1contents  

One thing I notice is this:

Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [off]

It's off in the Buster case and on in the Bullseye case. I guess you are
not using the IEC958 output.

Could you try running this inside the bullseye installer:

amixer -c 0 sset IEC958,0 off

samuel



Bug#1002976: installation-reports: Installer Does Not Provide Screen Reader in Accessible Installation

2022-01-16 Thread john doe

On 1/17/2022 1:13 AM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:

Here's the message, i didn't include the bug address.

I'm new



We've all been there!!! :)

Please understand that it is as frustrated for you as it is for us.

P.S.

Apologies for the crossposting, from now on I will only send to this bug
report.

--
John Doe



Bug#1002976: installation-reports: Installer Does Not Provide Screen Reader in Accessible Installation

2022-01-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le dim. 16 janv. 2022 19:13:18 -0500, a ecrit:
> Here's the message, i didn't include the bug address.

Thanks, that helps a lot to record all information in the bug.

So the syslog says that the binding with i915 went fine. But you said
you didn't have sound, so that's not the problem. The next thing I can
think of is dumping the output of these commands on a USB stick:

cat /proc/asound/cards
amixer -c 0 scontents
amixer -c 1 scontents

and doing so both when booting from the buster ISO image (so we can see
how it looks like when things work), and when booting from the bullseye
ISO image (so we can see how it looks like when things don't work).

Samuel



Bug#1002976: installation-reports: Installer Does Not Provide Screen Reader in Accessible Installation

2022-01-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le dim. 16 janv. 2022 00:56:17 -0500, a ecrit:
> I'm just trying to make sure I notify everyone that should know about this,
> John.

The way to do this is to keep 1002...@bugs.debian.org in the Cc of your
mails. Otherwise the information you are providing is scattered in
various mails in various mailing lists, there is no way we can fix the
bug if the needed information has to be collected tediously. Creating
yet another thread on yet another mailing list cannot help fixing the
issue.

So, as already wrote:

Samuel wrote:
> > D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le sam. 08 janv. 2022 21:33:12 -0500, a ecrit:
> > I tried console 2 but nothing is there.  The soundcard detection just goes 
> > in a
> > loop, over and over asking me to select a soundcard but no sound.
> 
> That's on purpose. As I wrote previously, proceed to the language
> question, and then you'll have the busybox shell available on console 2.

So please proceed to the language question, then switch to console 2,
and there mount a vfat-formatted USB stick and copy /var/log/syslog onto
it. For instance:

mkdir /usb
mount /dev/sda1 /usb
cp /var/log/syslog /usb/
umount /usb

Possibly it's not sda1 but sda, or sda2, or sdb, or sdb1, or sdb2,
depending how your disk and USB stick get detected. You can for instance
use

cat /proc/partitions

to see how big the disks are, and thus identify which one is the USB
stick.

Samuel



Bug#1002976: installation-reports: Installer Does Not Provide Screen Reader in Accessible Installation

2022-01-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le sam. 08 janv. 2022 21:04:13 -0500, a ecrit:
> I don't know how to mount a CD stick with busy box.

It's just exactly the same as with bash.

Samuel



Bug#1002976: installation-reports: Installer Does Not Provide Screen Reader in Accessible Installation

2022-01-16 Thread D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
It might have asked for the language, but I had no sound.  I know I didn't
get as far as networking, but I probably got as far as language and
keyboard, I've done installs so much recently I just didn't notice.

I'll try it again, I thought it was too soon to have logs. Usually when I
go to the other console, I just have busybox and I don't know how to mount
a CD stick with busy box.

I'll try it again.

David

On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 8:53 PM Samuel Thibault  wrote:

> D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le sam. 08 janv. 2022 20:38:43 -0500, a ecrit:
> > First, the mini.iso tried over and over to detect my soundcard,
>
> over and over, what do you mean? Was it failing to emit any sound at
> all?
>
> > then it went to ask if I had a USB stick with Debian on it,
>
> didn't it first ask for the language?
>
> Did you try to press alt-f2 to get to the second console?
>
> Samuel
>


Bug#1002976: installation-reports: Installer Does Not Provide Screen Reader in Accessible Installation

2022-01-16 Thread D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
No, luck.

First, the mini.iso tried over and over to detect my soundcard, I currently
have 3, first one is usually digital, next is PCH analog, I use that, and I
had my USB camera plugged in.  It kept repeating in a loop for 5 minutes,
then I finally chose soundcard #1 then it went to ask if I had a USB stick
with Debian on it, so I just pressed enter, thinking it was talking about
the mini.iso.  It went around and around for a good 10 minutes before I had
decided it wasn't going to work.

So again, no luck with the mini.iso.

Best wishes,
David

On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 5:22 PM Samuel Thibault  wrote:

> D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le sam. 08 janv. 2022 16:34:09 -0500, a ecrit:
> > This is in bash, not busy box, right? I can't figure out busybox!
>
> busybox is mostly like bash.
>
> > At what time do I mount a USB stick,
>
> The main menu will be fine.
>
> > and where is the command to save installer logs to it?
>
> The syslog is already in /var/log/syslog
>
> Samuel
>


Bug#1002976: installation-reports: Installer Does Not Provide Screen Reader in Accessible Installation

2022-01-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le sam. 08 janv. 2022 20:38:43 -0500, a ecrit:
> First, the mini.iso tried over and over to detect my soundcard,

over and over, what do you mean? Was it failing to emit any sound at
all?

> then it went to ask if I had a USB stick with Debian on it,

didn't it first ask for the language?

Did you try to press alt-f2 to get to the second console?

Samuel



Re: Bug#1002976: installation-reports: Installer Does Not Provide Screen Reader in Accessible Installation

2022-01-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le lun. 03 janv. 2022 20:47:17 -0500, a ecrit:
> Here's the files from the Buster installation from /var/log/installer -
> attached.

Ok, thanks!

So the "ALC888: SKU not ready 0x0100" message was already there at
the time. What's new in bullseye is 

snd_hda_intel :00:03.0: couldn't bind with audio component
snd_hda_intel :00:03.0: HSW/BDW HD-audio HDMI/DP requires binding with gfx 
driver

I remember having troubles with hda intel and the i915 graphic driver
missing. Could you try this image which includes the i915 driver:

https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/tmp/mini.iso 

(again all the logs are useful to provide since we don't know precisely
what we want to look at)

Samuel