Re: Bug#243166: eject should provide a .udeb, so that an eject menu item can be found in debian-installer.

2004-04-12 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 06:22:56PM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-04-12 at 14:48, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 02:35:20PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
> 
> > > So, yes, there needs to be a way to eject things other than the cdrom. 
> > > And (IMHO) it needs to be on the menu at priority=medium and lower.
> > 
> > But then again, d-i should be able to know that it needs to eject the
> > floppy, and do it for you. 
> 
> Yes, that would certainly work.  But it raises the question of why can't
> it do the same thing for the CD?  I'm just asking.  Are there are

No, it should do the same thing for the CD, at least at higher
priorities.

> special circumstances for the CD that don't apply to the floppy drive?

Well, if you have more than one CD drive ? I doubt that any power mac
has more than one floppy drive though.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Bug#243166: eject should provide a .udeb, so that an eject menu item can be found in debian-installer.

2004-04-12 Thread Rick_Thomas
On Mon, 2004-04-12 at 14:48, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 02:35:20PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:

> > So, yes, there needs to be a way to eject things other than the cdrom. 
> > And (IMHO) it needs to be on the menu at priority=medium and lower.
> 
> But then again, d-i should be able to know that it needs to eject the
> floppy, and do it for you. 

Yes, that would certainly work.  But it raises the question of why can't
it do the same thing for the CD?  I'm just asking.  Are there are
special circumstances for the CD that don't apply to the floppy drive?

Enjoy!

Rick 


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Re: Bug#243166: eject should provide a .udeb, so that an eject menu item can be found in debian-installer.

2004-04-12 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 02:35:20PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
> 
> 
> Sven Luther wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 12:28:11AM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
> > > tags 243166 moreinfo help
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 03:52:44PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > > A .udeb package would allow to eject the cdrom during the install. Would
> > > > be particularly usefull for uncompleted pmac installs, since it is not
> > > > evident to eject the cdrom by hand.
> > >
> > > I prepared a prelimary version, you can get it from
> > > deb-src http://www.lichtenheld.de/debian ./
> > 
> > Ok, i will test it.
> > 
> > > I'm unsure however what functionality is really needed:
> > >  - Should it be possible to manually enter a device name?
> > 
> 
> When booting from floppy disk -- as is pretty much required if you are
> using an oldworld PowerMac -- it is frequently necessary to eject the
> floppy disk.  Currently, one has to use a paperclip for this because the
> Mac hardware designers did not provide a big fat "eject" button on their
> floppy drives.
> 
> So, yes, there needs to be a way to eject things other than the cdrom. 
> And (IMHO) it needs to be on the menu at priority=medium and lower.

But then again, d-i should be able to know that it needs to eject the
floppy, and do it for you. 

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Bug#243166: eject should provide a .udeb, so that an eject menu item can be found in debian-installer.

2004-04-12 Thread Rick Thomas


Sven Luther wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 12:28:11AM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
> > tags 243166 moreinfo help
> > thanks
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 03:52:44PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > A .udeb package would allow to eject the cdrom during the install. Would
> > > be particularly usefull for uncompleted pmac installs, since it is not
> > > evident to eject the cdrom by hand.
> >
> > I prepared a prelimary version, you can get it from
> > deb-src http://www.lichtenheld.de/debian ./
> 
> Ok, i will test it.
> 
> > I'm unsure however what functionality is really needed:
> >  - Should it be possible to manually enter a device name?
> 

When booting from floppy disk -- as is pretty much required if you are
using an oldworld PowerMac -- it is frequently necessary to eject the
floppy disk.  Currently, one has to use a paperclip for this because the
Mac hardware designers did not provide a big fat "eject" button on their
floppy drives.

So, yes, there needs to be a way to eject things other than the cdrom. 
And (IMHO) it needs to be on the menu at priority=medium and lower.

Enjoy!

Rick


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Re: Bug#243166: eject should provide a .udeb, so that an eject menu item can be found in debian-installer.

2004-04-12 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 12:28:11AM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
> tags 243166 moreinfo help
> thanks
> 
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 03:52:44PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > A .udeb package would allow to eject the cdrom during the install. Would
> > be particularly usefull for uncompleted pmac installs, since it is not
> > evident to eject the cdrom by hand.
> 
> I prepared a prelimary version, you can get it from
> deb-src http://www.lichtenheld.de/debian ./

Ok, i will test it.

> I'm unsure however what functionality is really needed:
>  - Should it be possible to manually enter a device name?

I am not sure. It is usually only needed to eject the cdrom in the
drive, and i believe that debian-installer has knowledge of which device
that is.

>  - Should I try all devices or only the default one?

I am not sure what the default is though.

One solution would be to act differently at different priority levels :

  at priority=medium -> eject the cdrom device.
  at priority=low -> ask for device to eject, ideally presenting a list
  of ejectable devices.

No idea what the real difference is for priority high, maybe we can move
one item to a higher priority. At priority critical, this question will
not be asked, so it is not important.

> I would appreciate patches against debian/eject-udeb.postinst
> and debian/eject-udeb.templates

Ok, i will see what i can do.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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