Re: Bug#245632: Installation report, Poweredge 750 with Adaptec AACRAID
Can you please test a daily image from http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/sarge_d-i/ to make sure there are no regressions. This would be helpful since we're preparing for rc1. If all of the issues you reported originally have been dealt with, can you close this bug. As I said, this machine is now in production. However, I'll have an identical machine at hand at some point in the near future (probably in the upcoming month). I have one of these awaiting install. Can't recall if it has aacraid. Expect a report in a day or two. I'll file separately and cc to this bug, ok? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#245632: Installation report, Poweredge 750 with Adaptec AACRAID
Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi tbm, Can you please test a daily image from http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/sarge_d-i/ to make sure there are no regressions. This would be helpful since we're preparing for rc1. If all of the issues you reported originally have been dealt with, can you close this bug. As I said, this machine is now in production. However, I'll have an identical machine at hand at some point in the near future (probably in the upcoming month). I'll test and report if it's still considered useful at that point in time. JB. -- Julien BLACHE [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian, because code matters more Debian GNU/Linux Developer| http://www.debian.org Public key available on http://www.jblache.org - KeyID: F5D6 5169 GPG Fingerprint : 935A 79F1 C8B3 3521 FD62 7CC7 CD61 4FD7 F5D6 5169 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#245632: Installation report, Poweredge 750 with Adaptec AACRAID
* Julien BLACHE [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-05-05 19:33]: I reinstalled this machine today with the beta4, and it discovered the RAID card and the network interfaces without any human intervention. So: complete success with beta4. Can you please test a daily image from http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/sarge_d-i/ to make sure there are no regressions. This would be helpful since we're preparing for rc1. If all of the issues you reported originally have been dealt with, can you close this bug. -- Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#245632: Installation report, Poweredge 750 with Adaptec AACRAID
Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you please test a daily image from http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/sarge_d-i/ to make sure there are no regressions. This would be helpful since we're preparing for rc1. If all of the issues you reported originally have been dealt with, can you close this bug. The machine is in production now, so for now I cannot test that, sorry. Maybe I'll have to install a couple of servers with the same configuration, but that won't happen before several weeks. JB. -- Julien BLACHE [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian, because code matters more Debian GNU/Linux Developer| http://www.debian.org Public key available on http://www.jblache.org - KeyID: F5D6 5169 GPG Fingerprint : 935A 79F1 C8B3 3521 FD62 7CC7 CD61 4FD7 F5D6 5169 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#245632: Installation report, Poweredge 750 with Adaptec AACRAID
Package: installation-reports
Debian-installer-version: Beta3 netinst (20040405)
uname -a: installer kernel 2.4.25, installed 2.4.25-686
Date: 20040423
Method:
Boot off of the netinst CD, using a local FTP mirror.
Machine: Dell Poweredge 750 rackmount 1U, with Adaptec AACRAID (Dell
CERC)
Processor: Pentium IV 2.8 GHz
Memory: 512 MB
Root Device: SCSI, /dev/sda (Adaptec AACRAID)
Root Size/partition table:
Not relevant. 120 GB on hardware RAID1.
Output of lspci:
Relevant elements :
Adaptec AACRAID PCI ID : 0285
Intel E1000 dual port PCI ID : 1075
Base System Installation Checklist:
Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW: [E]
Config network: [E,O]
Detect CD: [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [E,O]
Partition hard drives: [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions: [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
Comments/Problems:
The installer booted flawlessly, but couldn't detect the ethernet
card. It is a dual Intel E1000 card, supported by the stock e1000
driver. Loading the driver by hand leads to a working network setup,
the installer then detects the ethernet interfaces without any
problem.
The network configuration is a real pain. We have a DHCP server on the
network used to netboot thin clients and initiate network
backups/restore, which can't be used for anything else.
As the installer automatically issues DHCP requests without asking if
it should do so, we had to pull the plug, then redo the network
configuration. Wasted time.
The installer couldn't detect the Adaptec AACRAID card (RAID card with
6 SATA ports). Loading the driver by hand, together with sd_mod, leads
to a working setup, the installer then finds the RAID array as
/dev/sda, which is just fine.
The regular PATA controller was detected just fine, although the 2
onboard (non-RAID) SATA ports weren't detected. I've no details on the
SATA controller, I'll get back to you with those details when I'll
have access to the machine again.
Partitioning with partman is a *PAIN*. This thing is horrible. It is
counter-productive and, at best, counter-intuitive. I thought the
installer would ask me to create a swap partition, but I found out
that I was left alone to create it with partman, and the whole thing
is non-obvious. Please, give me back my beloved cfdisk !
Then it complained because I wanted my /boot partition to be an XFS
partition, and that wouldn't work with grub. There's a patch for grub
on the linux-xfs mailing list, please get it applied to our grub
package and remove that warning. I want to get rid of ext{2,3} :P
choose-mirror is buggy. When going back, it will eventually present a
list of mirrors for the country you are supposed to be in, and the
enter information manually item isn't there. Annoying.
Also, it can't tell whether the mirror is unavailable due to network
problems or whether it's not usable for another reason. It'd be useful
to make the distinction between these 2 cases.
Although the installer didn't detect the AACRAID card, the reboot went
just fine. The network driver wasn't loaded, but that was no surprise.
Base-config presented its main menu, and didn't guide me through the
steps automatically. I don't know if it's intended, but I find it
disturbing.
We installed this machine in just 20 minutes. That was my fastest
Debian installation ever. Thanks guys, you're doing a really good job.
If you need more details on the machine, just ask, and I'll provide
them as soon as I'll have the hardware handy.
JB.
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Bug#245632: Installation report, Poweredge 750 with Adaptec AACRAID
On Sat, Apr 24, 2004 at 12:05:36PM +0200, Julien BLACHE wrote: The network configuration is a real pain. We have a DHCP server on the network used to netboot thin clients and initiate network backups/restore, which can't be used for anything else. As the installer automatically issues DHCP requests without asking if it should do so, we had to pull the plug, then redo the network configuration. Wasted time. Well, I guess your situation is not really the general setup, so making it easier for you would mean making it harder for almost everybody else. There *are* easy work-arounds available - either do expert mode setup which prompts you for this or I think there is a way to disable DCHP via a boot option, you might want to check on those. cheers, Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.advogato.org/person/mbanck/diary.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#245632: Installation report, Poweredge 750 with Adaptec AACRAID
Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I guess your situation is not really the general setup, so making it easier for you would mean making it harder for almost everybody else. There *are* easy work-arounds available - either do expert mode setup which prompts you for this or I think there is a way to disable DCHP via a boot option, you might want to check on those. Because there is a DHCP server responding on the network doesn't mean the user wants to use it, even when the user is almost everybody else. That was the point. JB. -- Julien BLACHE [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian, because code matters more Debian GNU/Linux Developer| http://www.debian.org Public key available on http://www.jblache.org - KeyID: F5D6 5169 GPG Fingerprint : 935A 79F1 C8B3 3521 FD62 7CC7 CD61 4FD7 F5D6 5169 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#245632: Installation report, Poweredge 750 with Adaptec AACRAID
On Sat, Apr 24, 2004 at 01:14:27PM +0200, Julien BLACHE wrote: Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I guess your situation is not really the general setup, so making it easier for you would mean making it harder for almost everybody else. There *are* easy work-arounds available - either do expert mode setup which prompts you for this or I think there is a way to disable DCHP via a boot option, you might want to check on those. Because there is a DHCP server responding on the network doesn't mean the user wants to use it, even when the user is almost everybody else. That was the point. So are you argueing that there should be an additional dialog box saying 'I've detected an DHCP server on your network. Do you want to use it [Y/n]?' If not, then don't seem to understand your problem. Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.advogato.org/person/mbanck/diary.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#245632: Installation report, Poweredge 750 with Adaptec AACRAID
Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because there is a DHCP server responding on the network doesn't mean the user wants to use it, even when the user is almost everybody else. That was the point. So are you argueing that there should be an additional dialog box saying 'I've detected an DHCP server on your network. Do you want to use it [Y/n]?' If not, then don't seem to understand your problem. Yes, something along this way would be a good idea. JB. -- Julien BLACHE [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian, because code matters more Debian GNU/Linux Developer| http://www.debian.org Public key available on http://www.jblache.org - KeyID: F5D6 5169 GPG Fingerprint : 935A 79F1 C8B3 3521 FD62 7CC7 CD61 4FD7 F5D6 5169 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#245632: Installation report, Poweredge 750 with Adaptec AACRAID
On Sat, Apr 24, 2004 at 01:37:41PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: On Sat, Apr 24, 2004 at 01:14:27PM +0200, Julien BLACHE wrote: Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I guess your situation is not really the general setup, so making it easier for you would mean making it harder for almost everybody else. There *are* easy work-arounds available - either do expert mode setup which prompts you for this or I think there is a way to disable DCHP via a boot option, you might want to check on those. Because there is a DHCP server responding on the network doesn't mean the user wants to use it, even when the user is almost everybody else. That was the point. So are you argueing that there should be an additional dialog box saying 'I've detected an DHCP server on your network. Do you want to use it [Y/n]?' If not, then don't seem to understand your problem. Well, I respectfully disagree. We should try to cut down on questions asked for the express install, not add to them. To the best of my knowledge, this question *is* asked, albeit with a lower debconf priority than is displayed by default. So lowering the debconf priority by selecting the expert install seems like a perfectly reasonable way to cater for non-standard setups. And I *do* believe that a non-desired DHCP server is a non-standard setup. Perhaps it should be documented better, but I haven't checked on the documentation, so I cannot comment on this. Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.advogato.org/person/mbanck/diary.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#245632: Installation report, Poweredge 750 with Adaptec AACRAID
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 24 April 2004 14:01, Michael Banck wrote: To the best of my knowledge, this question *is* asked, albeit with a lower debconf priority than is displayed by default. So lowering the debconf priority by selecting the expert install seems like a perfectly reasonable way to cater for non-standard setups. And I *do* believe that a non-desired DHCP server is a non-standard setup. Perhaps it should be documented better, but I haven't checked on the documentation, so I cannot comment on this. The boot parameter to use is 'netcfg/use_dhcp=false' and this has recently been added on the F7 help screen. I am at this moment documenting it in the installation manual :-) Cheers, FJP -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAimBhgm/Kwh6ICoQRAtsyAKDG61g6qim+n8B5Nr0UL0xKVYvrqgCbB5q9 y5GPEq+u6GO5A4z2Gw3QFDY= =n9jV -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Bug#245632: Installation report, Poweredge 750 with Adaptec AACRAID
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [wrt grub and XFS] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=99284action=view That's the one I had in mind, it's actually something that should be done in the bootloader installer, or in grub-install. Anyway, it's the way to go, and approved by the XFS gurus. JB. -- Julien BLACHE [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian, because code matters more Debian GNU/Linux Developer| http://www.debian.org Public key available on http://www.jblache.org - KeyID: F5D6 5169 GPG Fingerprint : 935A 79F1 C8B3 3521 FD62 7CC7 CD61 4FD7 F5D6 5169 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#245632: Installation report, Poweredge 750 with Adaptec AACRAID
Julien BLACHE wrote:
Output of lspci:
Relevant elements :
Adaptec AACRAID PCI ID : 0285
Intel E1000 dual port PCI ID : 1075
That is not enough information to fix discover to detect the hardware it
missed. Please read discover(1) and send in sufficient information.
Then it complained because I wanted my /boot partition to be an XFS
partition, and that wouldn't work with grub. There's a patch for grub
on the linux-xfs mailing list, please get it applied to our grub
package and remove that warning. I want to get rid of ext{2,3} :P
If you know where the patch is, send the information to bug #243835.
I found some interesting urls:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-xfsm=107704299608539w=2
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=99284action=view
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117968
But no grub patch.
choose-mirror is buggy. When going back, it will eventually present a
list of mirrors for the country you are supposed to be in, and the
enter information manually item isn't there. Annoying.
It's at the top of the list.
Base-config presented its main menu, and didn't guide me through the
steps automatically. I don't know if it's intended, but I find it
disturbing.
This is because something you did earlier dropped the installer to a
lower debconf priority.
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Bug#245632: Installation report, Poweredge 750 with Adaptec AACRAID
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Adaptec AACRAID PCI ID : 0285 Intel E1000 dual port PCI ID : 1075 That is not enough information to fix discover to detect the hardware it missed. Please read discover(1) and send in sufficient information. I'll do that as soon as I'll have the machine at hand, thanks. If you know where the patch is, send the information to bug #243835. I found some interesting urls: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-xfsm=107704299608539w=2 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=99284action=view https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=117968 But no grub patch. I'll dig it up. Base-config presented its main menu, and didn't guide me through the steps automatically. I don't know if it's intended, but I find it disturbing. This is because something you did earlier dropped the installer to a lower debconf priority. Ah. I can't see what I could have done that would have resulted in that, but OK :) JB. -- Julien BLACHE [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian, because code matters more Debian GNU/Linux Developer| http://www.debian.org Public key available on http://www.jblache.org - KeyID: F5D6 5169 GPG Fingerprint : 935A 79F1 C8B3 3521 FD62 7CC7 CD61 4FD7 F5D6 5169 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Julien BLACHE wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=99284action=view That's the one I had in mind, it's actually something that should be done in the bootloader installer, or in grub-install. It seems to me that this would need to be done in grub-install, presumably the idea is to freeze the XFS filesystem after the grub files are copied to it, and before grub is run, and both steps happen in grub-install Anyway, it's the way to go, and approved by the XFS gurus. Ok well, let's see what the grub gurus have to say. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#245632: Installation report, Poweredge 750 with Adaptec AACRAID
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=99284action=view That's the one I had in mind, it's actually something that should be done in the bootloader installer, or in grub-install. It seems to me that this would need to be done in grub-install, presumably the idea is to freeze the XFS filesystem after the grub files are copied to it, and before grub is run, and both steps happen in grub-install You got the idea :) JB. -- Julien BLACHE [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian, because code matters more Debian GNU/Linux Developer| http://www.debian.org Public key available on http://www.jblache.org - KeyID: F5D6 5169 GPG Fingerprint : 935A 79F1 C8B3 3521 FD62 7CC7 CD61 4FD7 F5D6 5169 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
